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The Feral Druid Guide II - Basic Boss DPS!! [Kitty Spec]

Submitted by ShadowFuri on Sun, 2008-12-28 12:16.

 

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Well im running out of ideas already! yes that's right ! writers block. but this is my second Guide for tonight so that's good i guess? ill make this one short simple and to the point...well we'll see how it ends up!

This Guide Consists simply, the moves, actions, and suggestions of what you should do on a 1v1, "tank and spank" "dps-down" boss fight.


Lets Start off, by starting the boss fight!
Okay so heres your situation, and most bosses are like this.




*NOTE* Always, always stand behind the boss if you can. you get an increased hit chance and your target cant parry or block from behind =D!

Start the fight off with a prowl, move onto a big attack to give you some motivation, getting a high crit always makes me strive for better stronger crits! during the fight.Also, remember to keep track of your aggro!the last thing you wanna do is steal aggro from the tank.

So, this big attack would be "Ravage" the counterpart rouge's "Ambush"
this attack does alot of damage and has a decent crit chance as well, lucky you.


After the start of the fight you pretty much have all the time in the world but for the maximum amount efficiency as a DPS spec. your gonna want to look into the following scenario and Ability suggestions.



FIRST FOLLOW YOUR PARTY LEADERS ORDERS.

What i Would do.

1)Ravage, for decent damage. (Bosses cant be stunned. usually)
2)Mangle to give all bleeding effects a nice boost in damage
3)Mangle, for a quick attack and Good Damage. also builds combo points!
i use mangle more than i use shred, because you save about 12-15 more energy per hit which in-turn gives you a free mangle every 2-3 hits compared to focusing on shred.
4)Tiger's Fury to get +60 energy instant! and +60 damage to attacks
5)Shred for Moderate Damage.
6)Mangle, to make sure i have 5 combo points
7)Rake for bleed damage
8)Rip for great bleed damage.


this is your basic start up. and its basically rinse repeat after that



Make sure your Rip Stays up as well as your rake. dont panic if you run out of energy just let it regenerate and throw in the attack you need when you have enough.



Your Main Focus is to keep
the "Mangle" Debuff and "Rip" on your opponent. rip does good damage + mangle that gives you that extra 2-4k damage every 20-30 somethin energy and gives your rip a good boost in damage. pretty simple. you can get artsy and blow cooldowns trinkets and what-not and throw shreds and more attacks in there, not needed but if you get fast enough and good enough to do that feel free to!

so lets go over this again

Mangle

Build Enough Combo Points for Rip While keeping mangle refreshed on opponent
Rip


Rinse Repeat!

Thanks for reading!!!
please post comments, suggestions, anything i missed out or you would like to know about or if you need anything explained in further detail!
thanks again!



-Shadowfuri "Verge"

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Questionable

Submitted by Tag on Thu, 2009-01-01 01:30.

Someone following this 'guide' will not be getting the best dps they possibly can. Feral DPS has gone from a simple rotation in BC to something more complex in WotLK. As has been said previously, there is no 'dps rotation' any more, just a list of buffs and debuffs you need to keep up.

1. Always keep Mangle, Rip, Rake and Faerie Fire up. No need to Mangle or Faerie Fire if there is another Feral druid doing that(dps or tank) and no need to Mangle if there is an arms warrior in the raid/group who can apply trauma as it is the same debuff.
2. Always keep Savage Roar up.
3. If you have 5 combo points and Rip is on the mob/boss with some time left to run then use Ferocious Bite.
4. Shred to get combos points in between keeping buffs and debuffs up.
5. Only use Tiger's Fury when you are at 40 energy or less so you don't waste the 60 energy you gain.

I would personally get my debuffs up quickly and get to 3cp then Savage Roar, then I would continue to keep my buffs up, get to 4/5cp and Rip. I'd Fer Bite when I could. 3cp and SR worked pretty nicely for me, i was able to keep it up almost always.

You didn't even mention Savage Roar (its 40% extra ap, why wouldn't you use it?) nor did you say anything about Faerie Fire which is an important debuff especially in raids (You won't need to apply it and refresh it if you have a bear in your group or raid but you can't always assume the presence of a Feral Tank).

I am usually resto on my druid but i took a few days out not so long ago to do some testing of dps. Without buffs i was able to do really nice dps, 2.5k+ on heroic bosses. For trash it kinda sucks following a normal rotation especially in a high dps group because your bleeds can't run their course and sometimes you can't even get debuffs up before a mob dies. For trash I'd recommend keeping Savage Roar up as much as possible (even if this means 3/4 cps and savage roar is all you do on the 1st mob), then as long as SR is up then just mangle, shred to 4/5 cps, Fer Bite (by that time mobs are dead anyway0. Don't waste cps tho, if you only has 3 on and the mob is close to dieing then Fer Bite for a little extra dps (and maybe a tasty crit! Sticking out tongue). Doing this i could keep up 1.5kish dps on trash and more on trash with more hp. My gear is okish: 6k AP - 38% crit - 4-5% hit, unbuffed.

Also you didn't mention glyphs. I've not looked into it much but i'm guessing Glyph of Rip (increases duration of rip) and Glyph of Mangle (increases duration of mangle) would be nice choices at least for 5/10mans. Maybe no need for Glyph of Mangle depending on your typical Raid setup.

Consumables. Go with AP flask or maybe a agi/crit elixir, there are also hit elixirs whicb might be nice if you're lacking. For food you can go with hit, expertise, agility whichever you need most depending on stats. There is also haste food/elixirs/pots but haste is of questionable value to a kitty, its a decent stat but there are better stats to stack.

I'm not saying my info is 100% accurate but this is my experience. This article lacks a few essential pieces of info for starter kitties and, yes, it kinda makes my eyes bleed too Sticking out tongue

Tag. Smiling

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I'm sorry, but this is not a

Submitted by Amarek on Wed, 2008-12-31 17:07.

I'm sorry, but this is not a good guide in more ways than one. Feral druids have a really complicated "damage rotation". I put that in quotes, because it isn't as much a damage rotation as it is a priority list. In short: An enemy needs to be debuffed by Mangle which can be done by a tanking bear aswell (or Trauma which can be put up by warriors), Rake and Rip. You should always keep Savage Roar up on yourself. The remaining time should be used to generate combo point for your finishers. If you have 5 combo points and there is enough time to generate another 5 combo points before your buffs/debuffs drop you can use Ferocious Bite. This is a very short explanation of proper cat-dps.

But you don't even mention Savage Roar. Jame encourages people to write, which is a good thing. But a lot of people can't write, but still want to. Spreading misinformation is never a good thing, that should never be encouraged. In the end I don't want a feral druid in my raid, who read your guide and plays sub par just because he listened to the wrong advice. If you want to know how to play a feral druid properly visit http://www.elitistjerks.com. After you've read that you can write an overview, so other people don't have to read through hundreds of posts.

If Jame were to write guides like you, they would look like this:
Go to Dragonblight
Then go to Zul'drak
Then go to Howling Fjord
Then go to Grizzly Hills
Then go to Borean Tundra
Done, your 80!

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Quote:If Jame were to write

Submitted by Maw on Wed, 2008-12-31 21:52.

Quote:
If Jame were to write guides like you, they would look like this:
Go to Dragonblight
Then go to Zul'drak
Then go to Howling Fjord
Then go to Grizzly Hills
Then go to Borean Tundra
Done, your 80!

Ehm... that's not the correct order. His guides would look like this:

Go to Borean Tundra
Go to Howling Fjord
Go to Dragonblight
Go to Grizzly Hills
Go to Zul'Drak
Go to Sholazar Basin
Go toStorm Peaks
Go to Icecrown
Done, your level 80!

(This is the Alliance version, for the Horde version, Borean Tundra and Howling Fjord switches places)

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You're not getting the

Submitted by Shikamaru on Wed, 2008-12-31 23:36.

You're not getting the point, he means that this guide is not detailed.

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Pretty sure he was just

Submitted by Jame on Thu, 2009-01-01 04:15.

Pretty sure he was just kidding Eye

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Correct!

Submitted by Maw on Fri, 2009-01-02 18:20.

Correct!

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What I meant was, that not

Submitted by Amarek on Thu, 2009-01-01 07:59.

What I meant was, that not only does this guide lack detail, but it is also incorrect information. Smiling

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Yeah...

Submitted by ShadowFuri on Fri, 2009-01-02 07:16.

yeah...not to get an attitude cause' im all for criticism. and even that comment was okay. but, believe me i know..that i know what im talking about

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Too many colors + tiredness

Submitted by Shikamaru on Wed, 2008-12-31 02:18.

Too many colors + tiredness = brain damage.

As Jame stated in a former comment, you should leave out most of the colors and only use them when it is needed.

Also, I'd like to add in you should check your grammar. Quite some mistakes in there.
I know, the English language is hard the grammatical way, but capitalizing letters in the middle of a sentence isn't that hard to prevent, is it ?Sticking out tongue

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Feral rotation

Submitted by Hebran on Mon, 2008-12-29 23:12.

I don't think you have spend a lot of time thinking about how to get a maximum amount of damage out of every point of energy.

Just an example... Shred has a lot more damage per energy then mangle, mangle should only be used to put up the debuff and if a bear is tanking then you should not use it at all.

You also didn't give any advice on what spec to use or glyphs.

These things are the basics that any guide for a class/spec should have (according to me)

You could then also include what stats you should have.

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Hey Shadowfuri. I really

Submitted by Jame on Mon, 2008-12-29 17:22.

Hey Shadowfuri.

I really appreciate you writing guides, but I think you got one thing wrong. We'd prefer if you took your time and only released one guide but with a much higher quality, instead of releasing 3 guides in a very quick succession, but with very little effort put into the presentation.

Let make a few suggestions:

1. Group your feral guides into one big guide and organize it well, take Jiyambi's Tree Healing Guide as an example. As you can see, her guide is very nicely presented and easy to follow.

2. Spell check your text. And also be careful with capitalization. You forget a lot of time to put a majuscule at the start of each sentence.

3. Too many colors in your guide. Try to remove most of them and only use colors when it makes sense, because it doesn't really make the guide pretty to put whole paragraphs in different colors without any reason. It just makes it look "messy" and some colors actually make it harder to read.

This is constructive criticism, don't take it the wrong way. You obviously know quite a bit about feral druids, so your guides are very welcome, but the presentation could be improved a lot!

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Jame, I'm calling you out

Submitted by Jiyambi on Mon, 2008-12-29 20:17.

Jame, I'm calling you out you crazy French man!

No one uses the word "majescule", I had to look it up Eye Just call it "capital letter" Sticking out tongue

Anyways, Jame is quite right in all his advice as usual. You can combine your guides into one guide and use a table of contents to navigate through them, I have a guide on how to make one here.

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What the hell It's

Submitted by Jame on Tue, 2008-12-30 04:13.

What the hell Sticking out tongue

It's majuscule! And it's in the english version of wikipedia ^^

There: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majuscule

Mwaha!

I believe you though when you say that no one uses it, but hey, it exists!

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I know it does silly, that's

Submitted by Jiyambi on Tue, 2008-12-30 08:48.

I know it does silly, that's the page I found it on Eye You probably know the English language better than most native speakers.

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Don't make me blush now!

Submitted by Jame on Tue, 2008-12-30 13:06.

Don't make me blush now!

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Hi again! While using

Submitted by Jiyambi on Mon, 2008-12-29 15:21.

Hi again!

While using colors is good to emphasize points, coloring whole blocks of text just for the sake of having color is actually a distraction from the guide. If you want an example, see how Jame uses color in his leveling guides - only to emphasize important points or show a certain type of information (for example all quests are listed in yellow).

However, your other formatting looks very nice, and is easier to read. You still may want to work on your grammar and spelling, since I see a lot of non-capitalized words when they should be capitalized, etc. This will help your guide to look more professional.

It's definitely improving, good job! Smiling

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Were gonna comment the same

Submitted by Maw on Mon, 2008-12-29 20:26.

Were gonna comment the same things. Just want to flash some light on Jiyambi's post here Sticking out tongue

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We have one brain!

Submitted by Jiyambi on Mon, 2008-12-29 21:19.

We have one brain! Eye

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Sadly I don't know anything

Submitted by Jahwo on Sun, 2008-12-28 15:20.

Sadly I don't know anything about druids so i can't say if this guide is good, but I can say that this guide really needs formatting Smiling
I recommend you read Jame's Guide Writing Guide and revamp your guides!
Now you have something to do until you have ideas for new guides. Eye

Jahwo

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