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Hunter Twink Guide (Level 19)
Patch Version: 3.0.2

Introduction

Hunters make great twinks in the 10-19 PvP bracket. They are versatile and fun to play, and are one of the most powerful class's at this level. The definition of a twink is a character that obtains the best gear, and is at the top of a PvP bracket. They are usually level 19 or 29, but can be higher. In this guide I will be discussing the Hunter in the 10-19 PvP bracket.

Version History

v2.0 - Complete reformat, updated for Patch 3.0.2 changes, added Horde information
v1.3 - Updated for Patch 2.4.1 changes, added Jewelcrafting section and Strategy
v1.2 - Updated for Patch 2.3.0 changes
v1.1 - Added Engineering Guide, Pets and Talents
v1.0 - Started Guide

Gear and Enchantments

Head: Lucky Fishing Hat/Green Tinted Goggles (8 agility)
Neck: Sentinel's Medallion
Shoulders: Serpent's Shoulders
Back: Sentry Cloak (3 agility)
Chest: Tunic of Westfall/Blackened Defias Armor (+4 stats)
Wrists: Forest Leather Bracers (9 stamina)
Gloves: Scouting Gloves of the Monkey/Gloves of the Fang (15 agility)
Waist: Deviate Scale Belt
Legs: Scouting Trousers of the Monkey (Nethercleft Leg Armor/Nethercobra Leg Armor)
Feet: Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots/Footpads of the Fang (Minor Speed/Boar's Speed/Cat's Swiftness)
Ring: Seal of Wrynn/Seal of Sylvanas
Ring: Protector's Band
Trinket: Insignia of the Alliance/Insignia of the Horde
Trinket: Arena Grand Master
Melee: Twisted Chanters Staff (25 agility)
Ranged: Venomstrike (3 damage scope)

Profession's

The profession's every twink needs are Engineering and First Aid. Mining, Skinning and Herbalism are all viable options as a second primary profession now with the release of Echoes of Doom. You will need fishing if you are aiming to obtain the fishing gear but cooking has limited uses; Rumsy Rum currently has the best food buff a level 19 can obtain and this cancels out anything you cook. Here is a Engineering guide found on WoW-Pro which might assist in leveling: Engineering 1-300 by Dusi

Races

Alliance: Dwarf, Night Elf or Draenei

Stoneform is a great talent which increases the already crazy survivability of twink Hunters but could be outweighed by Shadowmeld, depending on your playstyle. If you like to hide in the shadows and destroy your enemies with burst damage (much like a rogue) then roll a Night Elf. On the other hand, if you like to rush head first into battle and take all the hits (allowing your silly clothies to survive for that extra second Sticking out tongue) then roll a Dwarf. If you like to be different, roll a Draenei!

Horde: Orc, Troll or Blood Elf

Orc Hunters benefit from increased pet damage, reduced effect of stuns and increased attack power every 2 minutes making them the survivability counterpart for the Horde while Troll Hunters benefit from increased critical with bows, reduced movement impairing effects and increased attack speed every 3 minutes; like a Night Elf on steroids. Blood Elfs might would be an ideal counter for casting twinks with their AoE silence and great looks Sticking out tongue.

Comments

Jiyambi's picture

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Wish this had edit...

My bad, just logged on, Heavy Armor is +24 not +36 Armor so that's 97 Armor for Scouting Trousers of the Monkey

Leg Upgrade

"best enchant you can put on legs is Medium Armor Kit"

Actually as long as the legs are BOE, like the Scouting Trousers of the Monkey, you can get a lvl 20+ to put a Heavy Armor Kit on them before you wear them, I've just done this.

That makes the possible legs:-

Leggings of the Fang (+16 Medium Armor Kit)
95 Armor
+5 Strength
+9 Agility
+4 Stamina

Scouting Trousers of the Monkey (+32 Heavy Armor Kit)
105 Armor
+5 Agility
+5 Stamina

I didn't get the fang legs when I did WC and I got the Scouting on an alt so easy choice for me, I'm a noob of 10 weeks following this guide mainly though so I couldn't say which is better!

I'm not convinced that

I'm not convinced that stacking Int is the best way to go, even with the talent that makes Int = AP. You do 1 dps for every 14 attack power. So for every 14 Int you get 1 more dps. You also get mana regen, but that is not important in BG in my experience. I almost never run low on mana, and if I do survive long enough to run low on mana, then I can just drink.

Most fights last about 15 seconds. I'd much rather have 140 extra health from 14 sta than an extra 15 points of damage dished out during that time. And 14 Agi gives you 14 AP, just like Int, but also increased dodge, and increased crit, so it contributes more DPS than Int, and helps you avoid taking melee damage.

Bottom line, I do take the talent that makes Int = AP, but I still choose Sta and Agi gear over int gear.

I have decided that the Leggings of the Fang are better than the Scouting Trousers of the Monkey though. I give up 1 Sta for 4 additional Agi, and the extra strength helps in melee. Strength can be more useful than you might think. With the Black Defias Armor, I do a ton more melee damage than most Hunters. Charging other hunters and going melee can be very effective in a duel, for example. So I do go the the trouble of getting those Leggings in WC from Lord Cobrahn.

gratitude

i've been playing wow for just over 2 years now. during that time i've tried to learn the many facets of all the classes, professions etc. and just recently got turned on to PVP and BGs. I've always preferred hunter, but do love my pally. This guide has cleared a lot of my confusion and ignorance! Thank you so much!!

ps: this is the best guide anywhere on the web!

Sulfie's picture

As of about a month ago,

As of about a month ago, hunters want as much int. as possible, because there is a talent which increases your AP based on Intel. availible in the 19 bracket and in Marksmen Tree. I think its steady aim >.>



Some people are like slinky's, Good for nothing, but they stil lbring a smile to your face everytime you pus hthem down a flight of stairs.

Some people are like slinky's, Good for nothing, but they stil lbring a smile to your face everytime you pus hthem down a flight of stairs.

Nat Pagle Extreme Anglin' Boots, RIP

Looks like Nat Pagle's boots need to be removed from the equipment list, now that it seems they have been nerf'd to require 35th level.

Novacaine's picture

Updating

Since Felador is busy I have decided to try and update this guide. I hope he/she doesnt mind and I hope I get it correct. If it gets published and anything is wrong or needs to be added please let me know. I expect this to be done by Saturday 6-13-2009.

I did find the the +4 stats

I did find the the +4 stats to chest enchant after a while and was able to get it on black defias armor and wear it with no level requirement. So I can confirm that getting Greater Stats Chest is still good info. It is such a rare enchant, you just have to find an enchanter on your server that has it. I've heard some servers just have only one person on it with the enchant. The one I finally found on my server ignored my adds on trade chat until I started shouting "MY MATS - 100G TIP!!!!!"

Novacaine's picture

Updated Guide?

Anyone care to rewrite this guide? It is not correct because of the Leg and Head enchants...they dont work anymore. Jawdropping!

I have been twinking my

I have been twinking my first toon following this guide. It has been a tremendous help. Level 19 hunters still rule BG, even over rogues. Seems the nerfs mostly made it a little less expensive to twink, without having a significant impact on the complete pwnage that 19 hunters dish out. Victory in WSG at level 19 is determined by which side has the most hunter twinks.

I did encounter a few problems along the way with the listed enchants due to the patch changes, so there are some updates I would like to suggest:

As of patch 3.2:

(1) The best enchant you can put on legs is Medium Armor Kit (which goes for less than a gold on AH on my server, if you can find it at all);

(2) The best enchant you can put on boots is Enchant Boots - Minor Speed (mats are one each of small radiant shard, aquamarine, and lesser nether essence, and hiring an enchanter is a lot cheaper than paying 100 G for the scroll on AH)(I even bought the mats for Boar's Speed and found an enchanter with the enchantment but the item level was too low); and

(3) The best scope you can put on Venomstrike now is standard scope (+2 damage)(available from an engineer).

I have not been able to find Enchant Chest - Greater Stats, so I have, for now, settled for Enchant Chest - Stats (+3 to stats), but I'll keep looking.

Also, I have not yet obtained the Lucky Fishing Hat, so I have not yet investigated the availability of head enchantments. Wish me luck!

As of now I am gone fishin'.

Dwee... I said patch 3.2,

Dwee... I said patch 3.2, which isn't out yet.

I meant patch 3.1.2, and specifically patch 3.1.2.9901.

Skumball's picture

Head enchants now need Level

Head enchants now need Level 50 for them to work, just as the leg patches need Level 60.

Before you could also put them on the goggles made in engineering if you were unlucky and couldn't get the fishing hat, but not any more.

- Skumball

Slow Update !

This is a nice Guide, but thanks to the slow update I have wasted 300g in Nethercleft legs armor, because I have use it in a BoE legs in my main, and it became soulbound, in wowhead it says that when you use Nethercleft armor in BoE legs they dont get soulbound, but mine get, I guess this only happne since 3.1 ...

So to every1 that is following this guide dont make the same I did -.-'

And try to update it, or erase what is expired!

Skumball's picture

3.1 killed twinking pretty

3.1 killed twinking pretty much.

Most of the high level enchants now have a level requirement for them to work as well - which means no more attatching it then mailing or doing it via trade. The enchants will be on the item, but unless you are at least the required level (head enchants 50 or 55+ and leg armor kits it's 60+) then you won't gain the benefits.

- Skumball.

Tauren?

You state that for Horde, "Orc, Troll or Blood Elf" for races that Hunters can be. Tauren can also be hunter and would make a great twink, because of the 5% stamina increase. Smiling

Skumball's picture

Not a 5% Sta boost any

Not a 5% Sta boost any longer, it's now a +5% to base health (before all gear and enchants) and so this would be extremely marginal at low levels, you would gain around 30hp at the very maximum.

But yes, Tauren can be Hunter's. One of their racials that would be good would be War Stomp. A free stun of any kind in PvP can be life-saving.

-Skumball

Careful Aim

Well, I'm been trying this out for a bit, and I truly like Careful Aim, we hunters can now stack stam and intel and still rape face. So I now have 4-4 EAGLE hands, 5-5 EAGLE legs, and I am looking for 5 INTEL bracers instead of the Forest Leather Bracers. I was wondering if you had given this spec and gameplay into your guide. Also, a question, do the Hyena's also have bite, etc, along with the tendon rip? And do the spiders have a poison? I was also wondering where you could get these pets. Thanks!

Pets

I have found Petopia to be a very helpful resource for everything regarding hunter pets.

Kastoli's picture

New Twinking Gear

Since the Bind to Account gear has been released the "Champion's Herod's Shoulder" is the best Shoulders, they CAN be enchanted with +30 Stam +15 Resilience Rating; The "Charmed Ancient Bone Bow" is the best ranged weapon, and can have a "Khorium Scope" attached; as for Melee Weapons since the Tome Fixes the best melee weapons are eigther the "Bloodied Arcanite Reaper" with +25 Agility, or "Venerable Dal'Rends Charge" With +22 Intellect while using the "Furbolg Medicine Pouch" in your off-hand.

~Kastoli

~Kastoli

new twinking gear enchants problem

can u tell with details how and where can we enchant BoA items?

Zerox's picture

Will be updating the guide

Will be updating the guide ASAP, check the italics at the top.

Currently, Champion's Herolds Shoulders > All other shoulder, with no shoulder enchants working anymore at level 19. As for the ranged weapon, IMO Venomstrike > BtA Bow/Gun, and I have seen theory crafting on this to back up my statement, I'll include all of this in the next update.

Trollvink's picture

I can. First of all, their

I can.

First of all, their are a few different sorts of BoA items:

  • Weapons
  • Shoulders
  • Trinkets

Weapons can be enchanted with 'normal' enchants, like Fiery, Crusader, 15+ Agility, Lifestealing, etc. Shoulders can't be enchanted, except with a PvP shoulder enchant, but that's a bug that will be fixed!, so don't get it.

~Trollvink

Incorrect statement

Your guide is useful however there is an incorrect statement. Venomstrike is a must have however you cannot apply an Accurate Scope to it. You can apply a standard scope (+2). In order to apply the Accurate Scope, you must be level 20+ or have a high level toon apply it for you, however, Venomstrike is BoP. If you want to use an Accurate Scope, Id suggest using Lil Timmys Pea Shooter.

Zerox's picture

Bushwacker is correct; it is

Bushwacker is correct; it is possible to have a +3 damage scope on Venomstrike (as can be seen by clicking my armory profile), provided a level 20+ attaches it for you.

I'll include that in the guide, thanks for pointing it out!

technically thats correct, but still wrong

your lvl 19 toon cannot apply an accurate scope to the venomstrike, however the venomstrike's level is above 20, therefore another player lvl 20 or higher can apply an accurate scope to your venomstrike for you, in the will not be traded window.
true story.

Jame's picture

Hey Zerox, glad to see

Hey Zerox, glad to see you're updating your guide Smiling

I suggest adding wowhead links for the items you mention. It would look much better.

Weapon..

You should really use Twisted Chanter's Staff instead of Lorekeeper. The 10 intellect weights up for the 2 less stamina in an arena skirmish.

Zerox's picture

Completely right, been off

Completely right, been off updating this guide while I was playing. I'm currently working on updating this for Echoes of Doom.

Zerox's picture

Thanks, fixing that now

Thanks, I'll add that in now. Never thought about it when I was writing.

-| Zerox

boots

Hey man

All your enchants are cool but boots Jawdropping!
Enchant cats swiftness ( speed+6 agi) is only 35+ items, please change before ppl buy mats to get enchant then get told -_-

Thanks

Admin's note: Fixed spelling. Please do an effort with your spelling next time. Use proper capitalization and "your" instead of "ure" etc. Thanks in advance.

Zerox's picture

Anglin' Boots

The fishing contest boots have an item level of above 35; enjoy putting TBC enchants on a level 19 character.

you forgot to mention something..

you forgot to mention that this was an alliance hunter twink guide. i guess the only change would be seal of wrynn changed to that ring you get in that SPF instance.. seal of sylvanas? don't remember it :S

Zerox's picture

Horde Update

With v2.0 of the guide, Horde Information has been added.

Thanks for pointing this out! Smiling