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Original author: Crunge75

Short note:
510 for 150 riding skill (Assumes you’re exalted with at least one faction of alliance).
800 for 225 riding skill
5000 for 300 riding skill

Total: 6310 BEFORE 70

Well a short introduction I suppose is at hand. These are notes I put together while leveling a Paladin on a Vanilla account (no Burning Crusade installed). My goal was to see if I could raise the amount of gold needed for 1-300 riding skill BEFORE 61. In addition I wanted to do it in shorter time then it took my first character to raise 5000 gold.

I was intrigued by this because my first horde character, a druid, obtained his first 300 riding skill around 3 months ago. It took him around the same amount of time (three months) to raise the gold from doing dailies, farming motes, etc.). I also wanted a 70 from both sides ready for the next expansion when it came out

Well yesterday I’m proud to say in just two months and 15 days my Paladin is now sitting slightly over 6310 gold while being level 60. (On a side note: at some point I will make pictures showing my paladins gold amount)

Perhaps the most intriguing (I suppose to new players as well as those that do not have 70’s) is that all you need is a 58 plus character, two-three hours per day, patience, and discipline.

Class, Skills, other Recommendations:

The class can be any; it doesn’t matter so long as you enjoy the class. For skills, however, I HIGHLY recommend you pick up mining/skinning because honestly it’s where the bulk of the money comes from. While not needed, I do recommend on having an alt character level 35+ de’er. One that is capable of disenchanting items 51-58. While 150 mount training does help (can also knock off 510 gold needed to raise) you’ll want at least level mount training just to decrease going to/from distance (My paladin at the time of beginning and ending of this grind only had 75 riding skill).

Rivern Frostwind

You’ll get to know him pretty well in the upcoming days for his the reason behind the grind to 6310 gold. For alliance players you can rep grind a pretty cool looking mount with a unique trait.

As the tooltip states here: the mount itself is a very fast mount but only requires 75 riding skill! But really that’s just icing on the cake. It’s the first quest he gives you that helped me raise 6310 gold.

Frostsaber Provisions:, involves you killing two different creatures for six total pieces of meat both also capable of being skinned. The skins you will get are usually thick or of rugged quality. On most servers these can go for anywhere between 15-30 gold (30 gold more so for rugged). Rugged and Thick are also usually in short supply since people with 70’s buy them out for power leveling pre 300 skill level professions.

Even better: Thorium (and inside a few caves are Rich) Veins spawn at various points where you’ll be grinding: Like Rugged Leather, Thorium sells anywhere between 15-20 gold for each stack!

Send whatever occasional greens that you find to your de’er alt which disenchants into illusion dust which also sells for 20-30 gold perstack! During the grind I was even lucky and found a few epics.

While long and tedious it was refreshing to earn mount money needed for 125, 225, and 300 mount training before 70. In turn I think it will make 61-70 more enjoyable this time around since I do not have to worry about all the future farming my druid had to go through.


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Wintersabers, Oh Boy

When I saw the topic of this guide, I said great, went and got some coffee and settled down for a long read. Boy, was I disappointed.

Don't get me wrong. What you have to say is OK as far as it goes, but you have left out so many of the gold earning possibilities of this quest/grind that I had to jump in.

Let me say that I have put nine alts through this and, this past weekend, my lowest level alt, a shaman, hit 58 just as she was completing the everyday, do-it-once-and-forget-it, Winterspring quests. So I started her on the Wintersaber grind.

First, let me say that you are limiting the gold opportunities by not taking on the Winterfall Intrusion and Rampaging Giants quests when they become available at 1500/3000 neutral and at honored, respectively. The Winterfall furbolgs and Frostmaul giants (objects of those quests) drop considerably more greens, and the occasional rare and epic, than the bears and chimeras. They also drop lots of silver and vendor trash. When I was doing circuits of all three quests, I was clearing 7-10 gold a trip in mob loot and never needed to buy food or drink. This isn't counting the ores, herbs, rune cloth, and leather I was gathering and using or auctioning with a bank alt. BTW, I think dedicated bank alts are silly (especially the names). I rotate banking duties among all of my characters whenever I need to rest them, my current banker is a level 64 mage (tailor/enchanter).

Second, by including the Winterfall Village on the quest circuit, you can be exalted with the Timbermaw from mob kill rep and bead turn-ins long before you get your frostsaber mount. The Timbermaw have some nice leatherworking, enchanting and blacksmithing recipes, particularly the LW recipe for warbear woolies. These have a 100% chance to disenchant to a large brilliant shard. The shardtooth bears you will be killing and skinning skin out warbear leather at about a 20% rate. With rugged leather, warbear leather and some rune thread, I have enough mats for a leatherworker (one of my alts) to create a pair of warbear woolies every two circuits which an enchanter (another alt) can DE to an LBS.

Third, in the Winterfall Village, there is a chest that spawns in one of four locations which often has ores, bars, gems and greens as well as potions and food. The chest re-spawn timer seems to be about 20 minutes.

Fourth, get the Mau'ri token quest so you can collect E'ko from all of the mobs you will be killing. You can turn in the E'ko to the troll quest giver in Everlook for juju buffs which you can use or vendor for 45 silver per turn-in of three. (If you don't believe me, talk to the troll lady, she'll explain.)

Last, Grizzle Snowpaw, in Winterfall Village, and a named giant, in Frostwhisper Gorge (whose name escapes me at the moment), are rare spawns with guaranteed green drops (sometimes two). I have met (and killed) them so many times they're like old friends (well, maybe not friends).

If you are thinking of devoting your time to this quest line, at least consider the possibilities of expanding your horizons and try the other quests as they become available. The giants are level 59-60 elites and could cause problems for some classes and specs before level 62. However, my level 58 enhance spec shaman was able to solo them without much difficulty during the Mau'ri quest for crystals. However, by the time you hit honored with the Wintersaber trainers and get the giant quest, you will be several levels above 58.

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Well, first, I'd like to say

Well, first, I'd like to say that I'm not the author, but merely an updater of this guide - I didn't write this. But, I will update this information in a while, since I'm currently working on an other guide.

Thanks for good write up, you're right, one could make alot more gold from this. I'd say you should consider writing a guide - I could pass this guide onto you Smiling But don't feel forced.


Thank you


Thanks for your reply and I am sorry if my 'disappointed' remark was inappropriate. I was referring to my anticipation of the length of the guide, not the ultimate quality, and I do know that you were not the original author. I will consider the possibility of doing an expansion of the guide based on my way-too-many hours spent in the snows of Winterspring. I have downloaded the guide to writing guides and will give it some thought.


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Okay, give me a call if you

Okay, give me a call if you want to update it; if not, I'll try to update it.

Jame's picture

Nice revamp Trollvink. It's

Nice revamp Trollvink. It's much better now Smiling

Trollvink's picture

Hai, it seems that the

Hai, it seems that the author didn't do much. I would like to take over this guide, if you want.

EDIT: This post is meant for Jame

Jame's picture

It is yours for the taking,

It is yours for the taking, dear Trollvink!

About the farming

You dont need all of those chars to farm money. My hunter got his mounts at the required lvl :lvl 40 the 60% lvl 60 the 100% lvl 70 60% flyin lvl 77 epic flyin+col feather to have flyin in northrend (it took me soem time to reach lvl maximum lvl) the proffs u sould get are ofc min/skinn but the min/herb work even better. I was selling all greens anyways to vendors i wasnt spending time on posting auctions. And as you see it worked quite well , but u have to know the tatics so ill look if there are guides with those tactics if not ill post them.

Selling greens to vendor ?

I dont realy wanna be a critic since in a way you are right 1 char is enough to make that amount of gold, but seeing you say you sell all green items to a vendor, specially thinking of northrend once made me cringe.

"I was selling all greens anyways to vendors i wasnt spending time on posting auctions." Puzzled Shocked Jawdropping!

why not DE em and sell the mats gives way better gold outcome than vendoring the items it self. another thing i think u misunderstood in his guide, hes not posting the greensto sell, but the dusts and shards from DE them.

Also even if u dont sell your mats you have abundant of em for high end enchanting at level 80, i hope im just misunderstanding your comment there, since i truly think if u vendored all your greens you have cheated yourself out of approx 10k gold or more depending on the server you play on, and its economy ofc.

Very good info there trollwink

P.S. since ive done this mount Q line before the rep nerf and the first quest took 30 times and the second one took over 800 times to do for the mount. }:)
I strongly recommend you to get a 100% mount while your doing it if gold isnt the only motivation since gold rolls in anyways doing it from all the cloth/mines/herbs/skin/DE/rep items and ofc grey items you vendor, buying a 100% wond be a such a burden to be honest.

Laughing out loud

Jame's picture

This guide looks interesting

This guide looks interesting so far, crunge75. I hope you keep working on it, it badly needs a map showing where to find the mobs you need to kill, an estimate on how long it takes approximately per run, and how many runs will be needed in total, better text formating would also be good.

very good ,thanks for

very good ,thanks for shareing

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could this same thing be done with herb and skining ?

Mining/Skin or Herb/Skin are fine

>> could this same thing be done with herb and skining ?

Probably. I've raised an Herbalist/Skinning Hunter and a Mining/Skinning Warrior; both had the money for their epic ground mounts long before they went to Outland, and will likely have more than enough for a basic bird by the time they reach 70. At the time you posted your question, Herbalism wasn't as good a moneymaker as Mining, because Herbs weren't in high demand. Ores and bars were used by Blacksmiths and Jewelcrafters, while Herbs were only used by Alchemists. Patch 3.0.2 (November 2008) changed all that by introducing Inscription; now I'd say the two are on fairly equal footing.

In my opinion, all three gathering professions are good earners, but they really kick in once you reach skill 250-300; at that level, you can mine Thorium and Truesilver Ores, pick Sungrass and Plaguebloom, or skin Rugged Leather. I think there are two main reasons these items sell for so much:
1) Around level 40, people get the urge to try a new profession, particularly those that allow you to craft your own armor (Tailoring for casters, Smithing for warriors and paladins, Leatherworking for druids, hunters, and rogues.) This means fewer Miners and Herbalists, and lower supply means higher prices.
2) The most valuable items are found in areas intended for levels 50-60. At that point, most characters are eager to hit level 58 and run straight off to Outland. Once there, they kind of forget about the Old World and its treasures.

(edit 12/12/08 17:24 PST - typos)

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Very insightful post.

Very insightful post. This info should be added to the guide Eye

If the author doesn't express the wish to update the guide within the next 15 days, I'll gladly let someone take over the guide to update it.

The guide could also use a facelift anyway.


IMO Skinning is a bad profession to depend on money wise. The bottom drops out of the market more times than I'd care to remember for two reasons. 1, people are always trying to beat everyones prices and 2, Leather is easy to get as a skinner.

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Ahiru wrote:people are

Ahiru wrote:
people are always trying to beat everyones prices

Same for almost anything you try to post at the AH, it's called 'undercutting' >_>
And skinning is a great profession to start with, combined with mining cuz having two gathering professions equals lots of cash for early levels. Why choose skinning and not herbalism? Because the Detect herbs ability interferes with the Find Minerals one Sticking out tongue

Greens come and go but epics stay soulbound Eye
*Haylie, EU Bronze Dragonflight*

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OMG hey, im on Bronze Dragongflight aswell but im an Ally not Horde like you Sticking out tongue