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Revision of Ziah's guide to dealing with PVP while following Jame's leveling guides from Mon, 2008-09-08 11:34

Preface:
This was written with STV in mind but with these simple rules can be applied to any zone. This guide is more about dealing with getting ganked more than it is about avoiding getting ganked. If you spend a whole lot of time trying to avoid PVP it’s going to eat up much more time than if you just die and get back to work. If your goal is to level fast and avoid distractions please read on, if you want to enjoy a little pvp while leveling just do the opposite of what I suggest and I can almost guarantee you’re going to be waist deep in the opposite faction.

Ziah's guide to dealing with PVP while following Jame's leveling guides:

While you’re following Jame’s leveling guides STV can be a big slow down when you’re dealing with all the ganking going on. I managed to breeze through the zone pretty good. With just a few simple (and passive) rules you can minimize your down time. I want to share these methods I used to minimize how many times I got ganked and to make the recovery time as fast as possible.

Before we get into the methods it’s important you live by my mantra…

You are going to get killed. Get over it as fast as possible.

Pre-emptive medicine…
I suggest that if you’re in an area that is rather "busy" just move to another area and try a different quest and come back to it later. If all your quests are in the same area, go grind somewhere else for a few minutes. Chances are that person will finish what they are doing there and move on shortly. STV may seem very open but there are a lot of little hidden nooks that you can grind for 10 minutes or so in peace while you wait for the enemy to vacate the area you need to quest in.

The simple rules if a high level player attacks you...

1. Do not run away!!
Just stand there and die. Don’t even bother fighting back. You’re not going to kill a level 70! Why spend 10 minutes getting chased and hiding when you can just take 2 minutes to get back to your body, rez up and go back to killing your tigers or whatever. When I use this tactic they get bored really fast because it shows you just don’t care and you’re going to continue what you were doing whether they are there or not.

2. Do not emote!!
Instigating someone that is killing you just makes them mad or gets them all worked up to want to kill you again. They are trying to get an emotional response from you. If you do not give it to them, they look for someone else that will.

3. Don’t worry about the chat window!!
It’s STV! We know what goes on there. Complaining and begging for help is much more of a slowdown than just pushing through the distractions and getting killed a few times. You have a task. Focus!!

The simple rules if you come across an equal or lower level player than you...

1. Do not gank them!!
That’s when they get their 70 and grief you. Just give them a pass and let them know you did so by giving a /wave or something. This way they know you could have gotten the jump on them but didn’t. People tend to pay the favor back and leave you alone. Remember, they are leveling too.

2. Let them win!!
If they attack you, fight back but do NOT kill them. This way they don’t keep trying for the "revenge" kill even though you know you could wipe them up in 3 shots. They are generally satisfied with their "win" and they want to go back to leveling too.

If they want to continue to “dual” you because they think you’re a scrub and can get a few easy kills, you can just move on for the time being and come back to those mobs once that player is done in that area. Of course you give them a nice taste of what you can really do so they understand that you let them win. Again, I would avoid laying the killing blow but they will see your not a lightweight and can easily tear them up had you chosen to do so. They will probably not bother with you again, and since you didn’t lay that killing blow revenge from their main won’t be needed.

I got killed about 10 times a day in STV. But using the methods above I managed to not get slowed down a whole lot and was out of there in no time. I will be editing this or adding to it If I think of anything else but these few basic tactics are very useful in keeping your play time productive even though you’re on a PVP server.

Comments

Maw's picture

To me, this guide looks like

To me, this guide looks like a really good list of tips on how to deal with PvP while leveling, so instead of limiting the guide to tips that can be used while leveling with the WoW-pro addon (which can cause some misconception), perhaps the title of the guide should more accurately be something in the lines of: "Ziah's guide to dealing with PVP while leveling".

But still, a great guide that can really come in handy!

Jiyambi's picture

A leveling tips wiki has

A leveling tips wiki has been created as a catch-all for short, list of tips types guides such as this one. Since we really don't need multiple guides of the same subject as long as the guide we have is high quality, I'm moving all other "Leveling Tips" guides to Work in Progress mode.

Feel free to contribute to the leveling tips wiki. If you feel your tips are significant to justify a full guide, feel free to release them as such - but if they are just a short list of tips, I will probably stop by and move them back to Work in Progress mode!

Guide

I would like to put this back as a guide. its quite a bit longer than a short list (its almost as big as the entire leveling tips wiki).  Jame liked it enough to add a link to it on all the leveling guides and there are no other guides on the same subject matter.

 

~Z

Jiyambi's picture

Hmmm, I suppose it is a bit

Hmmm, I suppose it is a bit more specific than general leveling tips. It *is* a list of tips though!

Still, I think I was overzealous in my guide archiving ;) I'll move it back, and glad to see you still checking into the site!

 

EDIT: Since you made an effort to check in and make sure it's up to date, I decided to go ahead and bump it to the front page, too!

Update

Just cleaned up my long drag on sentences and updated for Cataclysm and the WoW-Pro Addon Smiling

Agree

This is one of the best guides I've used.  The team here is very responsive to bug fixes.  Leveling my mage from 80-85.  Just made 81 last night...all through this leveling guide.  It was the easiest level up I've done.  I really have to hand it to this team.

Ganking

I have to add an incident that made a huge impact on me when I first started playing - I was one of those ignorant noobs who thought I could attack a high level just because everyone else was doing it. This rogue, instead of just swatting me aside, stealthed and sapped me, then just left. That made me really think, and since then, I have been more "polite" to players with lower level characters instead of trying to get revenge by ganking as I have been ganked.

On the server I play (Arathi

On the server I play (Arathi FR) the opposite teams somehow always wait your respawn. The easiest way to go through it is making yourself "disappear" in the game by disconnecting. You just need to wait one minute then to connect back.

Boxxeraj's picture

Great guide

I'd like to say that this guide is good and it might help alot of people, but it actually depends on the horde/alliance balance on the server. On my server it like 4,5k horde vs 500 alliance in total so on every little inch in STV there are hordes ganking you and they got all those small hidden grinding spots covered. With that said I wanna say you're guide is good Sticking out tongue
Since i got a 70 i found an alternative solution for this part of the guide though. Get 1 of your equal leveled friends that also got a 70 char to trade boosts. Like I get him trough SM armory/lib until it says we entered to many time, then he go with my char trough it. Its quick leveling. it actually lets you enter again directly after you traded boosts. So it might look like this: You boosted: 10 times --> He Boosted: 10 times --> You boosted: 10 times and so on. It's no big deal!
Keep up the Leveling and good luck on PVP servers
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70 Feral druid
42 Arms Warrior
37 (and still leveling) Retri Palla
Server: Magtheridon

Jame's picture

That's pretty nice, I'll add

That's pretty nice, I'll add a link to this at the start of my leveling guides. Thank you Eye

Thanks!

Thanks! Reading your guides inspired me. Cant wait to get to 80 with them!