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Table of Contents.


1. Introduction
2. Spells, talents and cast rotation
3. How to gear
4. Useful addons
5. Macros
6.


1. Introduction

First of all, i'll ask you to be nice with my english, i come from Belgium and french is my primary language. This is also the first guide i write myself Sticking out tongue

This guide is here to help you leveling up your mage, not by telling you where to go and which quest to pick up (there are very nice leveling guides on wow-pro for that) but by giving you some piece of advice with the talents you should choose, the gear to aim for and some useful macros as well as addons.

It only aims to help you during the leveling process.

So let's get started.

2. Spells, talents and cast rotation

The mage is a caster. 99,9% of the time, you will want to keep the ennemis as far as possible from you.

Until the poweful Frostfire bolt, the deep Frost spec is, in my opinion, the best spec to pick while leveling.
It offers much more control over your ennemies than fire and arcane and can dish out very nice damage.

Let's review the frost tree and the talents that will help you the most. If bolded, it means that you should ABSOLUTELY take and max the talent.

  • Frostbite :

    Extremely useful talent. It allows your slowing spells (frostbolt, cone of cold, ice armor, improved blizzard, frostfire bolt) to have a 15% chance to root your ennemies in place, like a mini frost nova.
    Sometimes, you'll be unlucky and it will never proc during the battle, but when it procs, it basically means your ennemy is going to die very soon (See Shatter). It lasts like 5 secs.

  • Improved Frostbolt :

    Frostbolt will be your primary nuke spell until you get Frostfire bolt at 75. You'll cast it more than any other spell. Improved frostbolt shortens the cast time of your primary spell by 0.5 sec when maxed.
    While this may not seem much, it will speed up the leveling process and improve the damage you deal to your ennemies. Beside, you'll be glad to have this talent maxed when you will need to Shatter your ennemy and don't have much time left on your Frost Nova or Frostbite proc timers.

  • Ice Floes :

    There is "Survival" written on this talent. Maxed, it shortens the cooldown of your :

    • Frost Nova by x secs.
    • Cone of Cold by x secs
    • Ice Block by x secs
    • Icy Veins by x secs
  • Ice Shards
  • Elemental Precision
  • Permafrost
  • Piercing Ice
  • Icy Veins
  • Improved Blizzard
  • Arctic Reach
  • Frost Chanelling
  • Shatter
  • Cold Snap
  • Improved Cone of Cold
  • Cold as Ice
  • Winter's Chill
  • Shattered Barrier
  • Ice Barrier
  • Arctic winds
  • Empowered Frostbolt
  • Fingers of Frost
  • Brain Freeze
  • Summon Water Elemental
  • Improved Water Elemental
  • Chilled to the Bone

Comments

Jiyambi's picture

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Outdated?!?

Maybe it's just me, but I'm highly disappointed at the lack of updated guides. Not just this class, but across the site for the most part. And I know that everyone's going to say, "Oh, but there's no point in updating - until we find out what Cataclysm does!" My answer? That's a load of CRAP... some of these guides are almost a year and a half to two years' old.

Perhaps it's a product of the game itself. I've witnessed this phenomenon a bit myself, within my own guild. The push to raid, the emphasis on gearscores, armor sets, etc., has robbed a lot of the fun. Some of us are NEVER going to see ICC... For whatever reason, desire, play style, time constraints, etc.

Some of us also like making and leveling alts... We could use current, updated information. Just because it's free, shouldn't make it worthless...

Jiyambi's picture

Hi there. Now, you are

Hi there.

Now, you are entitled to believe whatever you want here, but I'm getting this sense that you think the contributors to this site are doing this full time and getting paid. You seem to think we aren't updating some of these guides because we are being lazy.

In that, you are quite mistaken - we are all gamers in our off time, just like you, and we all have real jobs or school, not to mention friends and family and actually playing the game, that take up time. So you see, we don't have endless hours to devote to the game.

We have to do a little something called prioritizing.

While I'd love to have an infinite amount of time in which to update every single guide on this site (I'm not being sarcastic, I LOVE making guides and that would be pretty awesome) - I just don't. I work and go to school, run a guild, and try to have some kind of social life as well. I just don't have time to update everything, and while there are other contributors to the site, they are often in the same situation as I am. We are all VOLUNTEERS and we volunteer as much as we can, but that's not enough to do everything and make everyone happy.

I am aware that you may have different priorities than I do, and that's fine. But since I'm the one volunteering my time and effort and not you, I get to decide what to update first. And I think for most of our users, we'd rather have some out of date guides now and have everything ready for launch date of cataclysm, than trying to play the catch up game now and have nothing ready at launch. Again, this is an opinion - you're entitled to yours.

Do please think about what you are doing next time, however, when you go on about how disappointed you are with people who are doing something for nothing that you are getting enjoyment out of. None of us are obligated to create this content for you to use - please keep that in mind. I'm not trying to say you shouldn't give suggestions or offer constructive criticism, but to be honest your comment rankled a bit and is a slap in the face for all the authors here on the site working their butts off so you can freely enjoy their creations.

Sarok's picture

Glyph of Slow Fall

I found glyph of slow fall to be a bit redundant if you master this one skill. When falling, right before you might meet your doom, you blink. Blinking resets your falling position and you don't take as much damage or none at all! Of course you might as well take it since there aren't that many other good minor glyphs.

Lycander's picture

Glyph suggestion

I've found that the Glyph of Eternal Water has been awesome for leveling. Sure, you lose the rooting ability of the elemental (and the associated frostbolt crit) but you've got a DPS pet helping you the entire way. It's helped my mage out a lot.

A warning on it, though. Anytime you take a taxi, or log out, your pet will be gone. On the plus side, the CD on the summon spell starts as soon as you summon, so if your elemental dies you'll likely be able to summon one right away.

Hope this helps.

Kwaice's picture

Indeed, i've been using it

Indeed, i've been using it too on my mage reroll, along with the glyph of *gasp* mage armor since i dinged 34.

The 70% mana regen while casting is awesome and i haven't made water since like level 40 ? She is 67 now.

Thank you Lycander and

Thank you Lycander and Kwaice for your Glyph tips. I shall start moving my Mage now since I'm abit bored.

Kwaice's picture

The guide is clearly

The guide is clearly outdated and i am not even sure i'd use frostfire if i was to level a mage again as it's too reliant on crit for my taste.

I should take some time to revamp it Laughing out loud ...

It's still a fun spec and if you go frostfire for leveling, the rotation is pretty simple: just chain frostfire bolt at max range. When hot streak procs, pyro.

Blast wave and Dragon Breath mana cost is really low (7% of base mana) and can be used to gain back some distance if enemies manage to get close to you or to finish them.

This guide is awesome, no

This guide is awesome, no doubt on that.
But, the only small problem i found was the rotation,
after level 74, you don't tell us the new rotation for the fire spec,
can you maybe update that?

other than that, it's a great guide:)

Young Blood's picture

Great guide, but I found gramatical error...

This guide is AMAZING!!! It really helped me out a lot!!!! I did find one small problem. In section 3, for the description of Empowered Icebolt, you wrote "You also gain 0,2 sec casting time" when it should say 0.2 Thanks again. Keep up the great work!! Please.

Actually ...

Actually we Europeans always spell it like that. Depends on which continent you are I think Sticking out tongue

Young Blood's picture

Wow!

Wow thats really cool! Thanks for telling me. You learn something new every day I guess.

Any chance you might be

Any chance you might be updating this guide? From what I am reading some people suggest switching to more of a Arcane/Fire build once at level 70 to 80. Then jusing it for raiding at 80.

Macros

I've been working on my macros lately and tried the conjuring food/water macro you have listed. It conjures perfectly but you say to left click to eat and it's not doing it. Any suggestions

CEO160

Yes mate that happened to me two the way t odo it it on the [button:2] make sure there is the : between the button and the 2 thats all there is to it

Great guide

Wow, this is a great guide! My alt is a mage, and this is helping a LOT. Thanks!

Also, I'd recommend one, and only one, point in Improved Blizzard, for the reason you spoke about -- it slows AND gives you Frostbite -> Shatter chances. When I'm instancing, this annihilates mobs around the tank.

talent calculator

Great guide. Just wanted to say that now whenever i go to the talent calculator link shown after the frostfire blot section, im told access denied and it says i need a username and password. anyone know why this is?

nukestorm's picture

after patch 3.1

do you still recommend getting winters chill since it only gives 1% extra crit now after patch?

Kwaice's picture

Yeah, crit makes for faster

Yeah, crit makes for faster kills, even if it's 5% less, it's still nice. You also gain those 3% crit with your frostbolt.

Beside, i don't see where i would put those points instead.

Nuclear898's picture

I disagree with the 6-11

I disagree with the 6-11 rotation, its alot better to do a fireball from max range (35yd), then go for frostbolt untill the mob has 1/4 HP then use fireblast and then melee or a last frostbolt, the DoT helps alot.

nukestorm's picture

or maybe i just remembered

or maybe i just remembered it wrong

nukestorm's picture

umm

my frost bite talent only lasts about 2 seconds.

Kwaice's picture

I noticed that i talked

I noticed that i talked about living bomb and scorch in my last comment (Nyon's question) when it's not even in the spec i suggested so don't take that comment into account, i had the raiding spec in head Sticking out tongue

Holyterror's picture

Frost AOE


If you are going to level frost then AOE grinding is the only way to go IMHO. Frostbite = death wish for AOE

It would be nice to have a Frost AOE guide. You can still follow Jame's guide but AOE when you can pull a few (most of the time)

DKs rule...others drool

DKs rule...others drool

Great guide. I do have a

Great guide. I do have a question, however. What rotation do you suggest at 75, after you switch specs to get Frostfire bolt?

Kwaice's picture

Just frostfire bolt

Just frostfire bolt spam.

You can't start with Living Bomb or scorching the mob for the +crit chance right away or you'll lose the range advantage.

But if you like living bomb, you can go with

Frostfire bolt (max range) > Living Bomb > Frostfire bolt spam.

Mobs just die very very quick for Living Bomb to be worth casting anyway.

blast wave?

I'm guessing I shouldn't use pyroblast to start attacking, but at 75 should blast wave replace frost nova, and dragon breath replace cone of cold?

Kwaice's picture

Yeah, those 2 attacks are

Yeah, those 2 attacks are very nice to cast if a mob manages to get close to you.

Kranky's picture

I love the guide

I have been following the guide since level one and it has been a great help.

I just wanted to point out that you get Ice Lance at 66.

Thanks,

Kranky
a.k.a. Sonnis on Anetheron

Kwaice's picture

Oops, thanks, fixed

Oops, thanks, fixed Laughing out loud

Sorry for the long delay;

Sorry for the long delay; I've been busy recently, I'll finish it soon!

Trollvink's picture

Hi, I'm currently leveling

Hi,

I'm currently leveling a mage, 'till level 29. Then I'm gonna twink him. When I looked for a guide for mages, this was the first one I found. I'm using this guide and I love it.

A few things I noticed:

    - You can color your links by putting the colour between the text, before the URL code. like this:

    [ url=YourLinkHere][ColourTypeHere]TextHere[/color][ /url]

    This would be a nice addition for your spells. For instance, blue colour for Frost spells, and red for Fire.


    At '6. Gear' you have 'Critical Rating', I think it should be 'Critical strike rating'.

    At '6. Gear', again. You say INT, you might want to say the full word, Intellect. Sounds a bit friendlier and nicer for new players, in my opinion. Same with Stamina and Spirit, in that section.


    You could replace all of the 'i' with capital 'I' if you mean 'yourself'.

There are alot of other things, but I wont nitpick any longer Sticking out tongue Outside of that, it's a wonderful guide. Covered everything I would ever need for leveling.

~ Trollvink

Hello, Kwaice. I just wanted

Hello, Kwaice. I just wanted to offer to proofread the guide for you, if you wanted. I saw a few errors earlier, and I'm a grammar freak sometimes, haha. Sticking out tongue

Kwaice's picture

Yeah go ahead, english isn't

Yeah go ahead, english isn't my primary language so i am sure there are some errors here and there Laughing out loud

honj93's picture

Talent build

The other thing I wanted to say (sorry, had no time yesterday) is about your suggestions on talents and especially ice shards.

I agree that it is a core talent for a frost mage, but as at the beginning your crit chance with spells is about 5% and maybe a bit more depending on your gear your damage output will not be that raised by that talent. I suggest waiting utnil you get shatter to optimize the combinations of these two.

Also I would say to take Icy Veins, it's only 1 point anyway and because some people don't like to use spells on cd and hold them for a more difficult situtation I can guarrantee that I'm one of them and even if I feel bad everytime I do it use your spells, the cd will be over faster than you think. In this case I would suggest a macro if you don't feel comfortable clicking each time on spell icon, because if I remember right Icy Veins doesn't trigger the GCD.

And last I would say to not take Cold as Ice immediatly as at this moment it only affects Cold Snap.

So, I would say something like that (although it's not that perfect just to get a general idea):

10-14 : 5/5 Improved Frostbolt
15-17 : 3/3 Frostbite
18-19 : 2/3 Icy Floes
20 : 1/1 Icy Veins
21 : 3/3 Icy Floes
22-24 : 3/3 Icy Shards
25-27 : 3/3 Shatter
28-29 : 2/2 Arctic Reach
30 : 1/1 Cold Snap
31-33 : 3/3 Frost Chanelling
34 : 1/3 Piercing Ice
35-37 : 3/3 Winter's Chill
38-39 : 3/3 Piercing Ice
40 : 1/1 Ice Barrier
41-42 : 2/2 Cold as Ice

From here on just continue as you would, maybe only give less points to Arctic Winds.

P.S. For AoE grinders I stronly recommend :
impr Blizzard ofc
Icy Veins
Shattered Barrier
improved Cone of Cold
frost chaneling as blizzard uses lots of mana
and permafrost is also nice

Kwaice's picture

Very valid point indeed. I

Very valid point indeed.

I didn't really think about the low crit chance at lower levels.

I just went "if i crit, i want to crit BIG ! :p" even if i have 6% chance to crit only.

If you really like Icy veins then yes, you can put it in your build and remove 1 point in Arctic Winds like you suggested.

I will change the guide a little when i get some free time.

Thanks for the great suggestions Smiling

honj93's picture

Nice guide

Quite nice guide and it will probably help many people who want to roll a mage. There are some things I would like to mention though:

1. Buy water. I know this may seem stupid, but when your conjured water is worse than the one you can buy you should buy it it will diminue greatly your downtime (personal experience Sticking out tongue). After a certain lvl ( 10 I think) this is the case for lvls 15-20, 25-30, 35-40 and so on. If you have a main you shouldn't have money problems also not if you've picked 2 gathering proffesions (my priest alt has probably made about 20g and is only lvl 13 Sticking out tongue)

I have something other to say to but I don't have time now, will add it in the afternoon Smiling

Kwaice's picture

Interesting, i never

Interesting, i never actually thought of that while leveling, but i've indeed noticed that my water sometimes didn't replenish my mana bar fast enough Sticking out tongue

Nice guide =) Recently

Nice guide =)

Recently rolled a mage alt as a side project while waiting for wrath, but had so much fun with him, he's now my main!

Looks like your guide cover's everything well, and the frostfire section was very helpful as i haven't really looked into that spec yet as levelled fully (currently 78) deep frost.

I specked more towards being an AOE machine and levelled from the early 20's to late 40's doing only about 10 quests, the rest AOE grinding. I just thought I'd mention it because i don't really think any mage guide is complete without a mention of the basic AOE cast cycle e.g
Ice barrier / mana shield -> round mobs up -> frost nova -> blink / run -> blizzard-> blizzard -> cone of cold (should be dead, unless they are a few level higher then you, if so start the rotation again)

great video here and the inspiration for me rolling a mage

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-903331917281359369

and a horde version here (but watch the above one first)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7087207987711785332

if you want me to do a bit of an AOE wright up let me know and ill see what i can do when i get some time,

Cheers

Anti...

mana shield??

I would suggest you never ...ever....use mana shield when AoE grinding for the following reason, if your low level AoE grinding your mana pool isn't going to be too big and will allow you to get off 2 Blizz, 2 nova a blink and CoC with very little mana left the reason you need your 2 nova is if you miss a mob or have an add
and need to regroup them, if you where to use mana shield each hit will take mana off you (and you will get hit) leaving you with an OOM situation and 10 almost dead mobs coming at you
If you don't have Ice barrier yet go in with no shield round up nova Blizz Blizz CoC
all mobs dead, you will have little mana left and your HP will be well down but its better that OOM, full HP 10 mobs running at you

Once you get higher level your mana pool will support you using mana shield but then you have Ice barrier so why would you Eye

oh one more thing if mana is an issue forget blink and sidestep away, it might give you that little bit extra to finish them off

Harper1990's picture

Talents

But don't forget to change the Talents if you do take on an AoE section - after all, can you imagine AoE grinding with Frostbite???!

"Wise is the man who knows he does not know"...
...Or who knows why my mother keeps calling me.

"Wise is the man who knows he does not know"...
...Or who knows why my mother keeps calling me.

Kwaice's picture

Thank you. I've personaly

Thank you.

I've personaly never used the aoe grinding path so if you want to add a section to the guide, feel free to send me a message Smiling

I tried this, I like it!

I have a mage alt that I've let sit on the wayside. I read this, and redid his talents, and sought out items as you suggested...he rocks! Thanks so much for the helpul tips, and info.

Interested in doing a priest guide now? Smiling

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Kwaice's picture

Thanks for the input, glad

Thanks for the input, glad you liked it.

I could do a priest leveling guide but i don't have much time for it now.

If i get the time, i will make one.

iRaid's picture

Very Nice

Very Nice Guide!!

I've never played a Mage before and after reading this it kind of makes me want to go and make a Mage alt.

Kwaice's picture

Thank you Jiyambi. Your

Thank you Jiyambi.

Your guides as well as Jame's helped me a ton to create this one.

Jiyambi's picture

After reading through it in

After reading through it in more detail, I can say yet again that this looks quite impressive with a lot of really useful tips.

Jiyambi's picture

This looks great, and I see

This looks great, and I see it has Jame's seal of approval! I have so many alts so these class-specific guides that are coming out are a big help. Thanks for making it!

Benhir's picture

Wow!

This guide is GREAT! I mean, what I really needed to level a mage! I found it very useful, well written and formatted. I have just one thing to add: in the Brain Freeze explaination, you should add that it is instant cast and has NO MANA cost Smiling.

Other than that, I loved this.

Kwaice's picture

Thank you for the comment

Thank you for the comment Benhir.

I will bold the "free" part of the spell and add that it costs no mana Smiling