Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide


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This is how I play wow while following my guide, when I don’t feel like booting up my 2nd computer 🙂

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    Juil 2, 2007 @ 8:51

    Thanks!Hey there,

    Just wanted to say thanks for writing such a great and complete guide. I’ve powerleveled a few Ally characters, but never played Horde past level 20 before. So when my brother asked me to level a Horde Priest for his guild, I knew I was going to need a guide if I was going to get to the Outlands as fast as we both wanted me to.

    This guide was perfect! I’m now level 61 and enjoying BC from a different point of view, and I know guide writers like yourself don’t necessarily get the recognition they deserve. I wanted to make sure I wasn’t one of those people. 🙂

    Thanks again, mate.

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      Jan 8, 2008 @ 2:36

      HeyJust wanted to say my hat’s of to you for making such an all-encompasing guide! And for free too!

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      Nov 14, 2008 @ 0:00

      Just want to echo everyone’sJust want to echo everyone’s sentiments on these guides. Put simply they rock! Great stuff.

      If you want, check out my site for tips and such as well as my progress in WoLK, along with lots of screenshots and firsts (for me at least)

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    Juil 13, 2007 @ 19:57

    Jame, wanted to know if youJame, wanted to know if you are planning to write the 61-70 guides ant time soon.

    Thank you, Great work!

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      Juil 18, 2007 @ 19:14

      With ya on this. Thanks toWith ya on this. Thanks to Jame’s guide I’m quickly approaching 60. Wondering the ETA and if I need to battleground for a while at 59 while the 61-70 guide is being finished. Thanks for the amazing work Jame!

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    Août 6, 2007 @ 6:09

    Yeah! JAme i had a blastYeah! JAme i had a blast following the guide i went from 20-60 in just a matter of days :jawdrop: and once i got to outlands i just paniced im so lost and counting on you for the lvl 60-70 guide!! Please aware us if you are going to be coming out with one cuz i am anxious :)!!!

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    Août 8, 2007 @ 15:58

    Thanks!All I really wanted to say was thank you so much for writing up this guide. It helped me, a newcomer, find my way around WoW and get used to it, as well as level rather fast. I got to 60 on my Priest with this guide in a short amount of time. I truly appreciate the work you put into this guide, because it definately helped a ton. If you ever come out with a guide for 61-70, I’d love to have a stab at it. 🙂

    Again, thanks, this guide will surely help many others out there.


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      Août 17, 2007 @ 15:34

      60-65?Hey James, been using your guides on two of my chars on. atm im 49 and 60. I was wondering if there would be a guide from 60-65 or 60-70 if thats not to much.

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    Août 19, 2007 @ 20:14

    i would just like to say,i would just like to say, Thank you so much, your guides are excelent, and you are very genours for doing this for all of us, if i had never found your guide i’m not sure if i would have carryed on to 60-70, thank you.

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    Août 20, 2007 @ 14:58

    Hey!I really love yourHey!

    I really love your guide.
    I myself saw my brother following the alliance guide and since i was horde… 🙁

    But then the horde guide came along and made me level super fast.
    Only when i was 30 you weren’t finished with then 31-60 and so slow as a snail i got 70 with my first horde 🙂
    Now i made another char which actually got past 20 and its using your 31-40 guide now but only a day or 2 back i was 21!
    Now i have to get back leveling 😀

    Your guide rox!

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    Sep 7, 2007 @ 18:57

    Hands down the bestIf there was an award for Best Leveling Guide(s) ~ you’d be the winner hands down! Working on toon number 5 to 70. keep it up!

    Look forward to the BC 58-70 for future toons.

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    Oct 2, 2007 @ 20:56

    ;)Thanks for providing this guide for free, im sure it benefits alot of people, there are millions that play wow. May good luck come your way 8) .

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    Nov 11, 2007 @ 20:01

    Dizzy’s eyeFor the quest keep an eye out, i don’t think dizzy’s eye drops where you said it does. i cleared the whole coast area, and got tired of waiting for it drop, so i checked thottbot. someone said that every character they’ve had, the eye has droped from the group around “pretty boy”, who is west right as you exit booty bay. i went there and, lo and behold, it was there! just thought id at this for anyone else who is having trouble with the eye


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      Nov 19, 2007 @ 1:04

      Thott is always full of it.Thott is always full of it. Stop using it and start using Allakhazam. The eye has a shitty droprate that’s all. I’ve had it drop many times from one of the pirates around the larger camp to the east.


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    Nov 11, 2007 @ 21:45

    SteelsnapIn the guide part 31-40 theres a mistake.
    “we’re now gonna look for a named hyena named Steelsnap. I generally find her at (13,28). She’s a level 30 hyena with two hyena guarding her.”
    Its nothing, but Steelsnap is a Male, as far as i know.

    Now when thats told, im happy again.

    Thank you Jame, thank you for the great guide.

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      Nov 17, 2007 @ 0:55

      kinda pointless to correctkinda pointless to correct it, the point is still there. 😛

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    Nov 20, 2007 @ 22:58

    NiceI’ve used this guide for 3 different toons, great work bro. Keep it up, can’t wait for 60-70

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    Nov 21, 2007 @ 4:53

    Thank YouAlthough I have yet to jump into these guides, as I’m playing a Human now, I can’t wait to use these. I have yet to sit down for enough time to level to 70, I want to now that I have graduated. Thank you for these guides.

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    Nov 24, 2007 @ 1:19

    Just an FYI the quest calledJust an FYI the quest called Test Of Endurance has been nurfed, it now only summons the one harpy that you need to kill. so its about 10x easier =D

    nice guide 😀

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    Nov 25, 2007 @ 21:38

    “Outdated” GuidesPlease keep up Jame’s old leveling guides once you’ve gone through and revamped them with the new quests! I’m not sure about anyone else, but I’ve found that since there’s less experience to level with and more quest exp per level, instead of coasting you literally fly due to the amount of experience the pre-2.13 guides packed into them.

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    Nov 27, 2007 @ 3:45

    Hinterlands.When you’re doing the quest to kill 15 Steelsnap Turtles at L49, grab the Gammerita quest too. He’s no longer an elite, as easy to kill as the regulars.

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      Déc 1, 2007 @ 14:36

      I totally agree…Gammerita took me 4 or five tries last time around… an easy kill (and easy xp) this time around.

      -Scoobysnacks – Bloodelf Mage

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      Déc 2, 2007 @ 2:50

      Jintha’alor as wellIt’s worth getting all the Jintha’Alor quests (Vile Priestess Hexx, Captain of the Guard etc) since all the mobs in the troll capital are now non-elite as well, and those quests have good rewards for the 50s. There’s a couple parts that might be a little tough to solo, but in any kind of group it should be a breeze.

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    Nov 28, 2007 @ 16:07

    60-65I’m guessing he will put out a horde 60-65 once he is done with the alliance 65-70 guide. More people tend to play alliance so I’m guessing that’s why they get their outlands guide first.

    Great guide Jame. Love using it. The only problem I have is when friends want to quest with me. They don’t understand that I don’t want to group up with them. I like to follow the guide step by step and if I’m questing with friends it all goes out of order.

    Like the others I’ll be looking forward to the outlands version. I doubt it will be done in time for my horde though, I’m leveling really really fast!

    Diomalik, level 41 troll mage, Lightning Hoof.

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    Nov 28, 2007 @ 17:15

    Is there an In-game version?Is there an in-game version of this guide? Searching around I found Azuarc’s ingame leveling guide, which was a very nice addon that had a leveling guide that was organized in chapters and seachable pages, which is all used ingame. The only problem is that its an alliance guide >< and alliance is for chumps.

    Does anyone know of an ingame horde leveling addon? Or has anyone imported this guide into NotesUNeed and is willing to share it?

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    Nov 30, 2007 @ 6:01

    Outleveling the GuideWith the changes in 2.3, I’m WAY out leveling the guide. I just dinged 60 at the start of the level 57 chapter. What is everyone else doing about this? Skipping some quests?

    2.3 came out when I was in my late 40s, so I imagine the problem is worse if you start the guide at 50.

    Never the less, this guide has been absolutely great and I’d like to give a huge thanks to Jame for providing it to everyone!

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      Nov 30, 2007 @ 8:53

      Outleveling the guide is aOutleveling the guide is a good thing. It means you won’t have to grind, you can abandon some quests if you don’t like them etc.

      Most importantly, it means that when you hit level 70, you will still have a LOT of quests to do and will be able to finance your epic flying mount with ease.

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        Déc 1, 2007 @ 18:29

        Sage Words on OutlevelingThanks Jame for addressing the outleveling issue. Your guide was the fastest way to level prior to the patch, now it is even faster and more versatile. Simply amazing!

        “What are other people doing about this?”? They are cranking through the levels with big smiles on their faces!

        Keep up the good work Jame, you make the game playable.


        P.S. Please don’t dumb down the revisions for the people who get confused if they are 2 levels higher than the guide.

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          Déc 3, 2007 @ 8:33

          Well…I agree that the faster levels are very nice, but I would not consider it dumbing down the guide to address the issue of out-leveling. There are several quests in the guide that have you killing gray monsters when you are 3 levels ahead of the guide. You would think you could skip that quest, but what if it is part of a chain? It throws off the whole flow.

          Obviously this is not a deal breaker on an amazing guide, but it is worth looking at IMO.

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        Déc 3, 2007 @ 7:50

        hi jamesif for some reason you go back and correct all the lvls because of the new 2.3 patch. please please please leave the old guide up and a link to it. I enjoy the old guide myself. now I can pick and choose which quest I want to do. thanks for all the hard work bro.

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          Déc 3, 2007 @ 12:15

          Could you please have theCould you please have the courtesy to read properly before making a comment? Just 20 seconds of looking would have saved you from making that comment because the old guides are still there and there is a fat link to them right at the start of the guide.

          WoW-Pro Admin

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      Nov 30, 2007 @ 19:00

      levelingyeah same issue here.. was around lvl 42 when they stuck patch on.. after fighting with broken comp and modem finally got back to leveling and outpaced the guide by 2-3 levels in that chapter.. hit last chapter and only got FP than skipped up to lvl 54 portion.. now i’m 1 level ahead again..


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      Déc 1, 2007 @ 20:24

      I’m currently 4 levels aheadI’m currently 4 levels ahead of the guide since I was already two levels ahead before the patch. I’m now 58 and doing the 54 portion. So, instead I’m skipping all of the guide until plaguelands then heading to outlands I think. Great guide though, Jame. I’ve used it on my character since I made him.

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      Déc 5, 2007 @ 22:46

      Outleveling the guideWhen it comes to me outlvling the guide, at lvl 52 I was still on the lvl 48 quests so I just decided I’d skip up to the Azshara part. I didn’t really feel like hitting burning steppes for some reason and I was getting sick of Feralas lol. But, yeah this guide has been amazing 3 days 18hrs at lvl 53 seems good to me. Good guide Jame.

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    Déc 4, 2007 @ 15:02

    named mobs?In your guide 21-31. there are a few named mobs you ask to find and kill and loot something to start the quest. I find them, kill them, but they dont drop the loot u mentioned. I waited and tried killing the named mob 3 times and they never dropped the item for the quest. is this because of the new patch?

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      Déc 4, 2007 @ 16:32

      Can you be more specific?Can you be more specific? What’s the name of those mobs?

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        Déc 4, 2007 @ 18:23

        Oh sorry, i thought iOh sorry, i thought i included the names.
        Ursangous killed 3 times, and Shadumbra x2.
        I didnt try more then that because i felt it was a waste of time.. but found it odd that it didnt drop. I though the first named mob was bugged, but when i tried Shadumbra twice, i figured it was changed on blizzards side since both didnt drop.

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          Déc 5, 2007 @ 15:03

          That’s because you probablyThat’s because you probably didn’t turn in this quest: [20] The Ashenvale Hunt.

          Once you have turned that quest in, the named mobs have a 100% chance to drop the quest items I mentioned.

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            Déc 10, 2007 @ 0:57

            You need to…This guide misses a very important part to those three quests… for you to be able to recieve that loot from those animals, you need to speak to the person in front of the inn. That person has three convorsation options. You need to ask about those three creatures, and get their descriptions, and then you can loot from them.

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              Déc 10, 2007 @ 8:43

              Hmm are you 100% sure aboutHmm are you 100% sure about this? I don’t recall having to do this and I never had any problem with the items dropping. All I had to do was turn in the Ashenvale hunt, get the follow up and turn in the next Ashenvale hunt again.

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                Déc 11, 2007 @ 11:42

                Negative.You do NOT have to speak to that NPC in ashenvale for these Q’s to work.

                GG on the guide btw, it helps a great deal.

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    Déc 6, 2007 @ 8:04

    Dwarven Fortressjust so you know, the dwarves in Dun Garok are no longer elite. Other than that kudos for getting the new guide out so soon to the xp patch

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    Déc 7, 2007 @ 0:14

    Great guide!I used this guide to get from level 40-50, and I have to say, it’s worked pretty great so far[url=].[/url] Looking forward to using it to get from 50-70. Thanks so much.

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    Déc 9, 2007 @ 19:26

    The FREE guides…I wanted to leave a comment to the people who apparently don’t know how good they have it. These guides are FREE. I have read far too many comments complaining about mistakes Jame has made or things they don’t like about the guides. Ignore the mistakes. So what. Everyone makes them. As for what you don’t like, don’t do it or do it a different way. You don’t need to leave a comment talking about how you hate it. Keep it to yourself.

    Jame and everyone at Wow-pro is doing us a huge favor. I for one am VERY greatful for the work that has been put into these guides. If it were not for them, I would still be in my 40s wondering what to do next. These guides gave me direction. Something, I felt, the game didn’t have a lot of pre-Outlands. I now have a 70 and several others making there way up there. So thank you Jame and Wow-pro for everything you’ve done. I truly appreciate it. Even though there are some who do not. Keep up the excellent work.

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    Déc 10, 2007 @ 0:37

    Great guide! But..It’s an awsome guide and all but im a level ahead of your guide… and if i dont do it word for word what you say to do It’ll mess up at higher levels. What do i do?

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      Déc 10, 2007 @ 8:41

      Being ahead of my guide inBeing ahead of my guide in levels is a GOOD thing. If you end up level 70 before the end of my guide, keep following it anyway, because you will get a lot of easy gold from questing that way.

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      Déc 12, 2007 @ 23:26

      People complained aboutPeople complained about being behind in levels months back, now people are complaining about being ahead in levels.

      Are you expecting that everybody is going to kill the EXACT same amount of monsters to achieve their quest objectives? Are you expecting that people are going to have the same amount of rested XP throughout their entire leveling career? Some people might kill more monsters on the way to their required destination than others. Etc. Etc. Etc.

      Just be happy that you’re ahead and cut Jame some slack. He worked hard on these guides and it’s silly that people are complaining that they’re ahead of the guide.

      Excellent work on all of your guides, Jame.

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    Déc 11, 2007 @ 15:33

    I love this guide, it´s byI love this guide, it´s by far the best IMHO. I see that the printer-friendly version is the old version of the guide. Keep up the good work…

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      Déc 11, 2007 @ 20:33

      Both printer-friendlyBoth printer-friendly version are available. You just have to click on the correct link 😛

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    Déc 12, 2007 @ 19:41

    Horde 60-70Can’t seen to fint any guides on this lvl bracket. Have I just missed them or do they not exist at this time?

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    Déc 12, 2007 @ 22:41

    OutlandAm I just missing something? When I go to “1-70 Alliance & Horde Leveling Guides!” Submitted by Snowflake, It says that this leveling guide goes up to 70. but i don’t see anything after 60. Also I remember a comment (posted by Jame) that lead me to believe that an outland guide existed. I am really looking forward to it, but can’t find it 🙁

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      Déc 13, 2007 @ 6:57

      No, sorry, I haven’t doneNo, sorry, I haven’t done the 60-70 guides for horde yet. I just finished the alliance one and started working on the horde ones yesterday.

      Here is the news post for the estimated release dates:

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        Déc 14, 2007 @ 8:41

        thank you!thanks for all of the hard work and effort you put into this, we all love you for it 🙂

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    Déc 13, 2007 @ 18:34

    Thanks again JameCurrently working my 2nd, 3rd and 4th characters through the horde guide (older version I printed out months ago). They still work great, though I’ll probably pick up the re-write when I finish up the chapter I’m currently working them through. Just want to chime in once again and mention what an asset Jame is to the WoW community at large.

    I think it needs to be noted how kickass it is that he’s taking the time to update these based on 2.3 changes AND write Outland guides (no doubt helpful, but Outland being so small and the zone progression being pretty straightforward, no one could blame him for finding less selfless ways to spend his time than writing more new guides).

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    Déc 14, 2007 @ 0:47

    Great guide!It’s been said a million times but these guides are almost toooooo good. I play horde so once I hit 60 and realized theres no follow up guide I thought I’d be disappointed, however, the quests are ALL the kind of quest Jame would recommend, so I’m finding it rather easy. Great work! got from 45-60 in about a day and a half played.

    Stoked for the horde 60-70, I’m sure I’ll be there before the release, but who’s to say I won’t level another, simply due to the ease of these guides.


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    Déc 14, 2007 @ 2:30

    really love the lesserreally love the lesser grinding sessions u implemented, nice job 🙂

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    Déc 15, 2007 @ 18:48

    NiiiceJame You Rock!! :jawdrop:

    8) Cool! xD

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    Déc 16, 2007 @ 23:00

       Man this guide works   Man this guide works extremely well, can’t believe i didn’t see this guide sooner. 🙂   

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    Déc 18, 2007 @ 16:08

    Good job mateBeen following this guide with my lowbie lock and it’s worked extremly well so far.

    When TBC hit i used Joanas guide for my paladin, but i must say i much prefeer your style of explaining things and it’s alot more user friendly!

    Hit lvl 40 last night with about 40h played. (I got a 60 holy priest following and healing :p . But i also lvld tailoring til 250 and enchanting to some 100+ and did some slacking)

    If the revised 41-50 guide could just come out quicker i’d be a happy camper. 😉

    Great great work Jame and Snowflake for writing and then updating this! Thanks!

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    Déc 20, 2007 @ 2:58

    Best leveling guide outBest leveling guide out there for horde, no contest!

    James, thank you very much for spending the time and putting this together.


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    Déc 20, 2007 @ 3:34

    These guides are great.These guides are great. Just curious when the horde 60-70 guide might be released. I understand everyone is busy with revamping but just wondering if there was a estimated date.

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    Déc 21, 2007 @ 21:30

    just a questiondo the old guides still work? or are they too out-dated because of the patch?

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      Déc 22, 2007 @ 12:07

      old guidesyeah, they still “work” somewhat.. but: you’ll be told to grind sometimes although you don’t have to, because you need less xp than the old guides are based on, and you’ll miss out some nice easy quests that were added in the new ones because they’re not group anymore etc..

      so why not just use the new ones?

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    Déc 27, 2007 @ 19:19

    Whens the Horde 60-70 Guide coming out????This guide first of all is great my toon is currently lvl 44 but i am just curious if the 60-70 horde guide is coming out. BTW GREAT GUIDE!!!

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    Déc 28, 2007 @ 13:34

    horde 60+when are they being released?

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      Déc 28, 2007 @ 14:14

      People, please try to readPeople, please try to read the news before asking questions.

      Anyway, here it is:

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    Déc 28, 2007 @ 17:41


    First off, I wantedJames,

    First off, I wanted to thank you so much for your guides. It made sound corny, but you made World of Warcraft fun again for me again. Prior to your guides all I used to do was grind and that got old quick. Now I actually feel like I am accomplishing something with your guides.

    I had a quick question for you. I have used your horde guide and just dinged 60 this morning. I flew up to 60 but I ended up being about 4 levels ahead of the guide. Would you recommend for me to skip the rest of the guide and head to the outlands or finish up your guide? I printed up the printable version and I have about 20 pages left of the guide out of the entire 200.

    Everyone has been telling me to ditch the old world and head to the expansion but I am little nervous about that because I have never been there and I have become so used to your guides.

    Thanks for any input you may have and also, thanks for your help with these great guides!


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      Déc 28, 2007 @ 18:33

      What I would do if it wereWhat I would do if it were my character is finish the old world quests before going to Outland, as long as those quests are not grey, they are definitely worth it.

      What you could do however is make a quick trip to the Outlands, do the first few quests because they give some very nice rewards which could make it easier for you. Then go back to finish the old world quest hubs.

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    Déc 30, 2007 @ 0:33

    I love your guidesI really like these guides. They really help when grinding the alts up. I was wondering if you’ve seen TourGuide?

    I would love to see these guides in game.

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    Jan 2, 2008 @ 9:56

    ThanksYour bloody guide made me install wow again after 8 months of rest 😉

    Thanks Dude…

    PS. I just did this quest yesterday and there’s a change I think:

    1. Take the quest [23] Vorsha the Lasher from Muglash, he’ll walk to the strand, follow him.

    2. He’ll stop on a small island with a brazier atop. Click the brazier when he tells you to do so and get ready for 3 waves of monsters. You don’t have time to loot in between the waves, you just have enough time to drink/eat:

    1. 1st wave: 3 Nagas, they are green to you so not so hard, but it’s still 3. Let Muglash tank one while you kill them one by one. Muglash is level 25 and can easily take one or two on his own. Try to save your long cooldown abilites and potions for the last wave if possible. As soon as the 3 nagas are defeated, eat/drink fast before the 2nd wave.

    2. 2nd wave: 3 nagas again, one of them will be a naga priestess, kill that one first and try to interrupt her heals or you’ll be in trouble. Use potion/long cooldown abilities if you have to but try to keep it for the next wave. Let Muglash tank as much as possible again. eat / drink fast right after the nagas are dead.

    3. 3rd wave: a level 22 Hydra named Vorsha will spawn and attack you, the hydra hits rather hard for a level 22, so use everything you got. If you die don’t release, Muglash should be able to finish off the hydra if you did enough damage to it before dying. Wait until you get the (complete) message, then release and run back to your corpse.

    I had no wave 2… after wave 1, directly Hydra showed up. Maybe I was just lucky or they changed it…


    Maz }:)

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    Jan 3, 2008 @ 13:35

    Missing a Zone?I was just skimming thro the guide, since I’ve used this guide for a long time. But I noticed, or perhaps overlooked, there is no referance to questing in the Blast Lands anymore on the horde guide (not sure about alliance). Best I remember that part fell between 49-52 levels.

    Is that intended or was it a glitch from re-skinning the guides?

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      Jan 3, 2008 @ 20:30

      It was intended.

      ThereIt was intended. 🙂

      There simply is too many quests out there now in that level range and we had to cut some circuits or we would have ended up too high level to do some other circuits.

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    Jan 5, 2008 @ 4:41

    Great Guideim 42 now and still going, i think your guide has cured my altaholicism! THANKS ALOT.

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    Jan 5, 2008 @ 15:22

    First off, let me say thatFirst off, let me say that doing this guide has elevated you to candidacy for WoW canonification, all you characters should get the title “Saint ” for doing something like this for the community.

    That being said, please give the Horde some love with Outland. Even though questing there is fairly hardcore as it is, I can only imagine how much more so it would be in your hands.

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      Jan 5, 2008 @ 17:48

      Thank you for the kindThank you for the kind words. Jame is currently working on the Horde Guide for Outlands and apparently he’s progressing even faster than he initially thought. I think he is currently almost at level 64 which means that the first chapter of his Outlands guide will be released soon 🙂

      WoW-Pro Admin

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    Jan 5, 2008 @ 21:57

    Thank you!Dear Snowflake and Jame,

    Thank you for this brilliant guide, your guide defines synergy. Before this, I was probably one of the slowest levelers in the game; my first character, a night elf rogue took me 33 days and 5 long months to get to 60. Thanks to your guide, I was able to level a Tauren druid from 20-49 in 3 days and some odd ours. You have turned the most tedious, and frustrating parts of the game into a fun experience. And to top it all off it is free!! Thank you thank you thank you!

    P.S. Hopefully, the outland guide will be out soon, I can’t wait to see what you did to that evil leveling deathtrap.

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    Jan 7, 2008 @ 3:22

    I’ve used your Guides JameI’ve used your Guides Jame for now 6 Alliance 70’s. Before anyone starts thinking “wow, no life?”, i’ve been playing for around 2 years now. My two recent 70’s dinged at under 8 and a half days played, one at 8d 6h, the other at 8d 11h, while I may have a combined total of 80 days played amongst them. I love leveling characters, odd as that sounds, and being able to memorize your Guide for the most part, has helped me greatly. Great job as always, going to see if I can get a few Horde 70’s to finish off 1 70 of each class goal. ^.^

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    Jan 8, 2008 @ 3:59

    I had been following yourI had been following your guide for a while but I stopped and quested on my own for a while. I made it up to 42 and got back on your guide, I followed your guide and got up to 43, so for the level 43 section of your guide I had already done all the quests in dustwallow marsh that I needed so what should I do if I want to get to 44 and continue using your guide.

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      Jan 8, 2008 @ 18:12

      Try to do parts of my guideTry to do parts of my guide that you haven’t done yet, starting from level 40 or so.

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    Jan 9, 2008 @ 2:26

    Thank YouI Have followed your guides and i love it especially with the 2.3 patch becuase i have been leveling about once every 1-2 hours and before i found out about your guides it would take me 3 days to get from 21-22!  So Thanks aton… I’m still workin on my first toon to 70 but its been going much faster! 😛

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    Jan 12, 2008 @ 2:13

    niceI always respect most of the people who write free guides

    but this is the first guide i spotted wich really works and is user friendly (pictures etc)

    still working on my first character
    but im doing it with a smile on my face

    (im not the quest kinda guy)

    thanks Jame keep the good work up

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    Jan 13, 2008 @ 19:17

    Thank you for the time andThank you for the time and effort you put in these guides.

    They are beyond helpfull.

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    Jan 14, 2008 @ 16:14

    Absolutely Incredible!!Your guides are just amazing. Thank you so much!!

    I just finished the 31-40 guide and at the end of it we are standing in the Badlands with our Hearthstone set to Brackenwall Village. At the beginning of the 41-51 guide you have us taking the zeppelin to Grom’gol Outpost and then Hearthstoning back to Orgrimmar. You might want to end the 31-40 guide by taking us back to Orgrimmar and setting our Hearthstone there.

    Take care,


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    Jan 15, 2008 @ 7:51

    we have a link to jame’swe have a link to jame’s guides in our guild information page which sums up how much we appreciate this guide.

    to jame and snowflake, thank you!

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    Jan 15, 2008 @ 15:18

    Sweet GuideThis is the best guide out there, everyone should use it if there having trouble.

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    Jan 15, 2008 @ 21:17

    Good jobWow these guides have made wow fun. There also better then all of the paid guides i have seen.

    (any eta on the revamp 51-60 guide?)

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    Jan 19, 2008 @ 14:57

    Very PleasedHi guys, i am also coming off of what i called a “Self-Ban” of WoW. I actually sold my account with my 70 druid and some other high lvl characters.

    I never thought i would come back. But i read about your guide, started a new mage and play maybe 3 hours a night. In only 5 days (15 hours) i hit lvl 30 using your guide.

    With this type of information i may lvl a priest too, so thank you and keep up the good work!

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    Jan 19, 2008 @ 15:08

    Awesome guide Jame! HelpedAwesome guide Jame! Helped me a lot. Can’t wait for the first part of 60-70 guide.

    Thank you. =)

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    Jan 20, 2008 @ 1:47

    Awesome GuideBest guide i have ever read…and simple enough for my 10 year old son to use on his own. Once again, GREAT GUIDE!

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      Fév 4, 2008 @ 15:26

      10 year old?

      Isn’t that10 year old?

      Isn’t that against the game rules?


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    Jan 21, 2008 @ 3:15

    Great GuideHey James just wanted to say thanks for a great guide. Was able to get a rogue to 60 in a month and I appreciate the work you’ve put into your horde guide.

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    Jan 21, 2008 @ 14:05

    Really good job on thisReally good job on this guides.

    It feels so nice to follow the quests flow without looking for infos on the net or so. Especially when you just what to hit 70 asap for end game content.

    I know this question is asked already too often, and that you are probably already working hard on it, but when do you think chapters 60-65 and 65-70 release will happen ?

    Great work again.

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      Jan 22, 2008 @ 23:58

      60-65 was just released and60-65 was just released and I think Jame will get cracking on the 65-70 guide asap. Given the fact that he can copy a nice chunk from the Alliance version, it shouldn’t be too long.

      WoW-Pro Admin

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    Jan 22, 2008 @ 1:04

    Duo ProblemsFirst thing, thanks sooo much for the guide, it must take incredible amounts of work to put something like this together. Second, here’s my problem^^ I play in a duo at all times with my friend (both hunters). We started your guide at lvl 23 but I had us start from the beginning anyways. We did fine for a while, but then when we were supposed to ding 30, I noticed we were behind, so I had us grind it out. Now, at the point where we are supposed to hit 31, we are almost 7K short. Could it be because every time there is a kill quest, we both get credit for each mob, but only half the exp? And if possible, could you tell me a way of fixing this problem? It’s my friends first time playing, I don’t want him to have to grind at the tail end of every lvl. Thanks a ton!

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      Jan 22, 2008 @ 23:43

      Yeah you hit it on the nail,Yeah you hit it on the nail, mostly when you need to kill things for kill lists in quests, you only get half the exp. What you can do to catch up though is run an instance whenever it is available in your level range (just get 2-3 more people and you’ll be fine). The additional quests from the dungeons will help you to catch up on exp and it’ll get you fat blues!

      WoW-Pro Admin

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        Jan 23, 2008 @ 22:37

        ThanksThanks for the reply! Now all I have to do is convince him that instances aren’t acutally “hell on a computer screen”, and that he IS capable, lol. The first time I took him to WC we had a hard time with a poor group, now he never wants to go into another instance^^ Meh, I get him there, in time. Thanks again!

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          Try and convince himAvian,

          Try and convince him that instances are mostly for easy blues at the end. Not many quests in low level give blue items as rewards.


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    Jan 23, 2008 @ 23:45

    Jame is the bestHey man. Just wanted to say thanks for this amazing amazing guide. It has taken me one month on my new character what took me 3 months on my old one. Just wanted to say that I appreciate all the work u put into this guide.

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    Jan 24, 2008 @ 14:04

    Leveling too fastBecause I was using the old guide before you updated it for the new version, I am ahead of the guide by one level. I am currently using the 31-41 guide and I was wondering if I should continue the guide in sequence all the way OR follow the guide in sequence until my character is level 41 and even if there are still more quests that i have yet to do in that part of your guide, I should just move on to your level 41-51 guide so I will be going in order again.

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      Jan 26, 2008 @ 0:05

      Try to skip a few questsTry to skip a few quests that don’t have follow ups to catch up with the guide. The reason why it’s bad to be in advance compared to the progress described in the guide is that some quests will be grey and won’t yield exp at all anymore.

      WoW-Pro Admin

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        Fév 4, 2008 @ 15:23

        I am following the guideI am following the guide from level 25~. Since it’s an alt, I usually play at rested mode. I am on an average of 1 – 1.5 levels ahead of the guide.
        Until now (level 51) I think I only had 1 grey quest.
        I don’t think that been ahead of the guide is bad, and defintly since I want to hit outlands on the highest level possible (read your 60-65 comments already) I think I’ll just continue and RESTED PLAY this char.


        Holysheet, Level 70, Executus, EU, Horde (ofc)

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    Jan 26, 2008 @ 13:57

    this is THE bestthese levelling guides are the best i have seen so far! keep up the awesome work jame!
    i was just cured of being an altoholic and i’m trying to level my main the normal way, but i’ll use this guide once i get to 60, ty so much!
    also, my guildies want me to spill all the dirty secrets about how i manage to find all the great guides as soon as i referred them to here, so you guys are the best 🙂

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      Jan 26, 2008 @ 14:32

      Thank youThank you 🙂

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    Jan 26, 2008 @ 20:22

    Thanks so much!I just cant thank you enough for this guide, it’s absolutely brilliant!
    The amount of work and attention to detail is excellent and I love that you aren’t ever in one zone for ages at a time! Makes leveling so much more fun.

    I must ask, how come this guide is free? It’s miles ahead of the guides that you have to pay for (what with a brilliant layout and tons of screen shots) and yet you aren’t getting anything out of it. What made you decide to dedicate so much time and effort to this?

    My second mage is 33 atm and I’m loving every second of leveling! Thanks again!

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    on 65 shaman still going strong


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    Jan 28, 2008 @ 1:56

    Excited to use this to rush to 70I just found this guide and I’m pretty psyched about using it. I’m lvl 25(priest) so I’ll just pick up around there in the guide. So I was looking around there in the guide and I noticed the quest for helping Torek that I did yesterday.

    7. Go further west on the other side of the road you should find a path to Silverwing Outpost (66,73). Kill all the nightelves on the path and inside the house, as soon as this is done, sprint back to Torek and start his quest. The way being clear, he’ll directly run to the house. When inside 4 elves will spawn – let the orcs tank them and focus on one, Torrek must survive so kill as fast as you can, and use all the abilities / consumables you have.
    Note: If you are a healer this should be easy, you can heal the NPCs.

    My first instinct was to heal Torek since he needed to live. I’ve lvled a 70 priest before so I know that some npc’s can be buffed/healed and some can’t. I hit Torek with Power Word: Fortitude and Renew to see and it worked. Renew didn’t work on his guards though. Just a minor correction to the guide but every bit helps, right?


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      Indeed I’ll add this, thankIndeed 🙂 I’ll add this, thank you

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    Jan 30, 2008 @ 19:20

    65-70 HordeHey Jame! I’ve been using your guide from 21-51, and then from 60-65. Now I’m currently grinding honor and marks for the future S1 while waiting for your guide (I don’t mean to put any pressure on you by this).

    Since the release of 60-65 was ahead of schedule I was wondering if you’re releasing 65-70 any time soon, or is it still in march? I was thinking maybe in late or mid february, where are you currently in the guide? I heard from snowflake that you can copy a big chunk from the alliance version!

    Thanks for the amazing guides and props to Snowflake for the awesome remakes!


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      Jan 31, 2008 @ 22:32

      From what he told me itFrom what he told me it could very well be released mid/end February if all goes well.

      WoW-Pro Admin

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    Fév 3, 2008 @ 8:45

    Just a thanks.I just felt that I HAD to thank you for all this work you’ve done for everyone. I played WoW for about 6 months once and managed to get a character to lvl 40. Then I left for a year and then went back, I took the old lvl 40 char to lvl 41, and rolled probably about 14 different alts!!! I kept getting bored, confused, and frustrated with the whole process. Since discovering your guides, it’s all different. I’ve rolled a new character and am already a lvl 46! In less than 1 month! I even feel assured enough now to bring a friend of mine into the game who is well, a bit older than the usual players^^ He’s from the before computer games era^^ And yet with your guide he’s only ever thrown up his hands in frustration once, and that was when I pushed him into an instance, lol. So, long story short, thanks soooo much. I was at the point of leaving the game for good, and I was sad about it. But now, it’s really just awesome! Thanks!

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    Fév 4, 2008 @ 12:00

    What a great guide. I’m nowWhat a great guide. I’m now level 33 using the guides. One quick tip, I didn’t start using the guide until I was a full level higher than recommended. I’ve levelled up all the way through dinging a level above each time and has made things a little easier, not that it’s all that difficult anyway.

    Give it a try if you’re struggling, the guide still matches for XP even if you are a level higher 🙂

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    Fév 7, 2008 @ 15:32

    This looks really Awesome! But….=(I have a lvl 25 War right now, i’ve been following another guide and i’ve been playing for like 5 days……

    Because of how slow im leveling and how frustrated im constantly getting, i’ve decided to search for a new guide, and this is what i’ve just ran into.

    Since im level 25 and im at Stonetalon mountains, where and how should i start on this guide?

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      Fév 9, 2008 @ 17:35

      Check which areas areCheck which areas are covered in the levels 22-25. If there’s any place you haven’t been yet, start from there. If not, start from level 25.

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    Fév 8, 2008 @ 14:14

    You are AwesomeJame.. You are the best guide maker ever!!!

    I am now a 56 orc shaman (first horde) and followed all your guide even ally 30-60.
    They all work well and i want to say THANKS SO MUCH <3<3<3<3<3 😉
    You worked so hard on it.. thanks for it!


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      Fév 9, 2008 @ 17:35

      Thank youThank you 🙂

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    Fév 9, 2008 @ 12:57

    hmmwhats the estimated time of play while leveling with this guide; (1 to 70)

    i meant jame’s should did this several times while writing guide, whats his record :p

    btw great guide, most detailed ever…


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      Fév 9, 2008 @ 17:34

      Sadly I’ve been so busySadly I’ve been so busy lately I didn’t get time to do speed runs to try it.

      It should be somewhere in between 6-8 days /played.

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        Fév 12, 2008 @ 18:19

        As I mostly play on restedAs I mostly play on rested mode,
        I am now level 53.
        I did level 52 in 2 hours 16 minutes and couple of seconds.

        Totally I think I have played with the guilde for about 5 days or so.
        can’t tell exactly, but an average for 2-3 hours is what I have per level.

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    Fév 11, 2008 @ 0:00

    Jame’s Leveling GuideI recently opened a new account and decided to level up yet another hunter on the horde side. I can usually level myself rather quickly and have never had issues in the past, but I was pointed at this guide and decided to give it a shot. Long story short, I went from level 22 to level 29 over the past few days with very little time spent actually levelling. I would say that I spent 50% of the time doing auction house scanning, in transit or crafting. This guide is VERY effective. I even found myself doing quest chains I avoided because of either difficulty or annoyance of the PVP around me.

    Nice work. I’ll more than likely use this guide throughout.

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      Fév 12, 2008 @ 22:35

      Thank youThank you 🙂

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    Fév 11, 2008 @ 4:17

    Great guides!Just had to drop by to say thank you.

    I’ve leveled 2 chars side by side with these guides, another being at 60 now (still getting AV marks for the mount) and the other I got to lvl 67, tho your guide says ‘ding 65’.
    Most likely because I followed the (old) guide in Azeroth until I was lvl 61½. You have very good and easy to understand content in your guides all along the way.

    Now waiting for lvl 65-70 content, and as I’ve leveled chars to 70 before without guides, I clearly understand how much effortless it is with a guide like this. Playing in windowed mode on widescreen monitor, switching every then and that to see what’s next on the list. Ah! Simple life. So thank you for your effort to make our leveling experience easier. ^^


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      Fév 12, 2008 @ 22:36

      Thank you, it’s alwaysThank you, it’s always reassuring when people say that they have no problems following the guide, because I sometimes wonder if my english is understandable 😛

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        Ohhh you should see my badOhhh you should see my bad English …. and im an American…

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    Fév 14, 2008 @ 10:22

    Great guide for a group of 3!Jame,

    I would like to thank you so much for taking the time to write this guide. My two dormmates and I rerolled a Warrior, Rogue, and Paladin. We picked the guide up at level 21 after going through Ghostlands with no troubles.

    I just followed the guide word for word and had my group follow.
    We have not yet fallen behind, in fact we are usually half-way into the next level when you say we should ding.

    Wish you included some of the really good EXP group quests, but this is meant for solo play anyways.
    Just wanted to let everyone who is wondering about this guide or even if you, Jame, needed some hard data.

    Group of Warrior, Rogue, and Paladin(Ret) are pounding out levels with ease, and haven’t fallen behind. This guide supports quest groups too, not just solo play.

    Thanks again!
    Colonoscopy – Uldum

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      Fév 15, 2008 @ 0:39

      Thanks for your feedback,Thanks for your feedback, I’ve never heard reports on my guide with groups of 3+, so it’s welcome 🙂 Really happy to hear it works well.

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    Fév 17, 2008 @ 22:03

    SweetHey, thanks a bunch for this guide. You get pretty much everything Brian and every other con artist claim to have. And best of all…You have an actual Horde guide!


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    Fév 19, 2008 @ 1:45

    Great StuffI just decided to roll Horde after leveling 3 alliance to 70 (2 of them followed your guide) and decided to use your guide for *edit* Horde. I wanna say great work Snowflake, you have a great style when writing the revisions I enjoyed them a lot. However as soon as i entered realm of 60-65 I could tell I was back with Jame again. You guys both are both very good at what you do, and the whole experience was like I had done all this horde business before!! (which i have not)

    One thing I would like to say, I understand why outlands take along time, because so far reading thru level 60-65 the quests are kinda like how I ran them without the guide… but the order you put them in just makes so much more sense.

    One thing about the revisions… It’s a shame in some ways we dont get to run the instances as a manditory step because the instance guides you write were amazing too.

    I babble… Thanks for the hard work and see you in Northrend 😀

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    Fév 21, 2008 @ 2:21

    You are jesus.You are jesus.

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    Fév 23, 2008 @ 18:01

    Thanks!Thanks to you Jame for a great leveling guide. It has kept me from the boredom of grinding and has given me a renewed interest in the game. Just getting ready to hit the Outlands and will be using your 60-65 guide.

    Thanks again!

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    Fév 25, 2008 @ 20:59

    First let me say thanks forFirst let me say thanks for the guide… you have made leveling alts that much easier to deal with.

    Do you have any(incoming) or can suggest any Nagrand/Blades Edge/Netherstorm/SMV guide?

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      I think Jame planned onI think Jame planned on making a Netherstorm/SMV farming guide once he’s done but that might take a while.

      WoW-Pro Admin

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    Fév 27, 2008 @ 6:17

    Thank you JameThank you Jame for all the hard work you’ve put in to these guides! This will be my 3rd 70, but thanks to your guide this one has been leveled much faster than the first two. I have followed your guide since level 21, and I am really looking forward to your 65-70 horde guide. Thanks again!

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    Mar 1, 2008 @ 18:35

    Great WorkGreat work on the guides mate!
    Really great stuff=) I’ve now used both of your guides, due to certain events meaning that my alliance character was hacked 😛
    I’m sure you put alot of time and effort into it and I would just like to say a big thanks to Everyone who wrote these guides, they’re all awesome!
    UD Priest, The Maelstrom

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    Mar 2, 2008 @ 11:56

    Hey,What time are your 65-70 horde guide coming out? 🙂

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    Mar 3, 2008 @ 4:29

    For the Horde?Hey Jame, any ETA on the 65-70 guide for Horde? I’ve been using the 60-65 with great results so far; I’ll be pushing 67 when I’m done with Terokkar thanks to running a few instances and always having rested bonus. I can’t wait for the final installment. I should have not only SMV and Netherstorm to do at 70, but a good bit of Blade’s Edge I imagine.

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    Mar 4, 2008 @ 0:40

    Somewhere mid-march, sorrySomewhere mid-march, sorry guys can’t make it faster, quite busy atm. 🙁

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      Mar 5, 2008 @ 4:30

      Very niceNo problems there. I still have about 8 pages of the 60-65 guide to go and I have a new alt to start working on. I should be plenty occupied until mid-March 😉

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    Mar 9, 2008 @ 22:46

    Deadwood Ritual Totem QuestIf a Deadwood Ritual Totem drops while doing the quests in Felwood and Winterspring. I’d recommend you take the quest that goes with it, because by the time you’re done with the L57 part of the guide you’ll be neutral with the Timbermaw and the quest will be complete. Just delete the quest after you complete it, No need to talk with the mob inside the path from Felwood to Winterspring to ‘finish’ it either.

    EDIT: I thought I posted this in the L51-60 section. Can this be moved there?

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      Mar 11, 2008 @ 0:19

      No, don’t drop it.Having a quest marked as “Complete” in your log does not mean you are done with it. You still need to turn it in, you just can’t turn that one in [i]until[/i] you hit Neutral. Turning the quest in will give you 700 more Timbermaw rep and 8150 xp. Why would you not want to turn that in?

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    Mar 15, 2008 @ 18:55

    Thank you for taking theThank you for taking the time to write these guides. Without them I wouldn’t have been able to keep interest in WoW as a casual player as it takes too long to get a 70 without knowing anything about the areas. I’ve gone from 23-65 entirely with your guides, can’t wait for Chapter VI.

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    Mar 18, 2008 @ 7:30

    Why would you not want toWhy would you not want to talk to the mob inside to finish it? Once you talk to him you get 8150 xp from EACH totem quest. If you don’t go talk to him you’re just throwing away 16300 xp.

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    Mar 19, 2008 @ 17:46


    As a veteran player (3+years) i want to tell you how invaluable this guide has become to me when leveling alts ( alliance and horde)

    It provides a nice overview of where to quest at what levels while i dont follow it to the letter ( im usually ahead of the leveling curve)it gives me a good direction when i notice my quest log beginning to empty.

    3 days played and just hit level 49! ( hunter :P)

    Thanks for all your work.

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    Mar 31, 2008 @ 22:26

    The GuideI’ve been using this guide since 21 and I really want to thank you, it has been so easy. Since I dont have to worry about looking up quests, figuring out what to do next or anything like that. Thank you, and i’ll look forward to seeing you in northrend.

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      Avr 1, 2008 @ 7:44

      Thank youThank you 🙂

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    Avr 24, 2008 @ 19:56

    Best Guide on the NetI am now using this guide for my third playthrough. Both previous times I leveled faster, more efficiently and easily by using the guide. Now I am on my third go and am beating both of my previous [i]/played[/i] records. This guide makes it simple and hassle-free to level up. I have used guides that cost money such as Joana’s, but if you look at what those are really based around, they are [i]not[/i] for a typical, any class run through the game. This guide, however, is a blueprint for quick and efficient leveling. I can’t thank you enough [i]Jame[/i] for making this guide. It has been a great help to myself and thousands of others.

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      Avr 28, 2008 @ 17:39

      Thanks a lot!Thanks a lot!

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    Avr 26, 2008 @ 11:28

    New PriestI have religiously followed your guide to 70 with my partner and we loved it! (Both hunters) Now I am trying to lvl a priest with it and I keep running into spots where something just seems too hard. I die almost constantly and I’m wondering if it’s just my ability to play the character, or if this is a common concern of others?

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      Avr 28, 2008 @ 18:42

      I can’t really say. I’veI can’t really say. I’ve leveled a priest (shadow) and followed my guide and died very rarely. Are you properly specced and geared?

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    Avr 28, 2008 @ 3:59

    Guide with instances.Heya Jame 🙂
    First off, great guide. Started my Tauren Druid on the 21-31 one (29 atm)and he’s powering through the levels faster than I could have ever imagined tbh 🙂

    One thing though, it could be an improvement actually? I’ve also ran a few instances with a few guildies whilst following the guide, and have found myself to be well, near enough dead on track woth the guide – I’ve only had to skip one section so far (the run of Stonetalon at level 27). I haven’t been killing everything I have run into so that’s also another area I’m losing out on the exp and so the instance is keeping me ‘topped up’.

    Anyway, I thought maybe perhaps you’d be interested in either accomadating more group play and socialising in-game into your existing guide or adapting it into a second version for those of us who love to instance and such. The gear looted on the runs only makes the leveling go that much faster 😛

    Either way I’d be glad to offer any feedback regarding this as I believe it would benefit more people – getting to use the awesome guide without sacrificing other social aspects of the game means smiles all round imo 🙂

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      Avr 28, 2008 @ 18:44

      I’ll think about it, sadlyI’ll think about it, sadly for now I’ve to focus on revamping the alliance guide and do extra level 70 quest circuits for gold making :p

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        Avr 29, 2008 @ 0:31

        RE:Hehe well if you’d like, and with your permission of course, I’d take up the challenge 🙂
        Would be great to give something back and help others out more 🙂

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          Avr 29, 2008 @ 16:18

          That would be great. PleaseThat would be great. Please send me a private message when you’re ready to start.

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    Avr 28, 2008 @ 20:18

    Thank you, Jame of awesomeness!Dinged my first 70 today (Undead Rogue)! I found the guide to be incredibly helpful, and very well thought out. I took a little extra leisure time to bg and run a few instances, but managed to utilize the guide from 21-70. I used the quest tracker addon and it helped expediate the search for certain quest items/mobs, it complemented the guide perfectly. I just wanted to say thanks and keep up the good work!

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    Avr 29, 2008 @ 22:32

    Thanks friend.Just wanted to say thanks for making this guide. I’m leveling my 4th 70 using it (He’s 69 now), and it’s just so easy.

    I’ve always hated leveling, but your guide makes the entire process like one long quest. Thanks so much for your contribution to the WoW community!

    Nothing you haven’t already heard. 😀

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    Mai 7, 2008 @ 23:53

    This guide has helped meThis guide has helped me level very quickly, for me. I have recently returned to WoW after nearly 2 years away, new account, started from scratch. 12D17H to lvl 70 for basically my first character, and thats taking the time to get professions above 300 as well. Great guide, awesome. Thanks Jame

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    Mai 10, 2008 @ 22:02

    Thanks a lot :)I’ve always hated levelling, at least 40-58. (have two characters left in those levels)

    Well, I decided to Google some levelling guide since I thought that it would be faster. Now, since I’ve got my first horde character to 70 I can only thank you.(Drood in ~7 days played)
    The best thing of this guide was that I didn’t have to use all my time in “thottbotting” the quest help. Also the fact that there are lots of more quests that I never knew made me happy.

    First off I thought that “Well, I try to level to 58 with the guide and then start doing the Outland quests” – but since the guide was SO GREAT I had to just level to 60 in Azeroth and use the guide till 70.

    I’m pretty sure I’m getting the epic mount (or form ^^) when I complete all the Outland quests.

    I’ve to say that I can barely think that the chargeable levelling guides are better. This is just very good one. Hopefully u had fun making this though, I couldn’t believe free guides like these even exist.

    /Muhkea moos and thanks a lot. 🙂

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    Mai 12, 2008 @ 4:35

    im new to these guides these guides come with addons like where u can have the addon in the game because when i installed the game i didnt have enough RAM which makes it hard for me to go from the game back to the start menu…when i log out it takes ;iek 5 minutes to go to the character is this guide in an addon format so i can view it in the game or do i have to keep coming to and from here..if so i might just print it out =] thanks

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    Mai 13, 2008 @ 2:39

    Great Work!… I hate to say this but you guide Sucks … IM joking … it OWNS!!! I level my ally hunter from 60-70 without ever dying !!! And only grouping for 5 of the group quest…My guild was so amazed how I hit from 60 – 70 in 1 week and not /played 1 week one week real life!! Now my wow time is up and I have a 60 prot pally .. i wont get to level him to 70 sadly using your guide …. but you own and that you took your time to make this guide I give you an imaginary reward!!!

    Keep up the work … I’ll try to do something in return for you!

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    Mai 13, 2008 @ 17:13

    Thanks everyone below forThanks everyone below for your kind words!

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    Mai 23, 2008 @ 8:51

    No ConfidenceYour guide is excellent and I am not trying to insult leveling guides by saying this but as i’ve been reading some comments people seem to think they need to follow your guide word for word. Guides are excellent for when your stuck at places but i’ve been reading comments of people freaking if there not at where the guide says they should be and have followed the guide like it was the only way to level. I also understand some people may not have the ability to level efficiently like some people but regardless shouldn’t some of these people have the self confidence to try some things on there own or maybe even continue the guide even if it says you “lack experience”. All i’m trying to say is people need to have more confidence in what THEY can do as a player instead of what a guide tells them to do. Not insulting your guide but people just need to believe in themselves more.

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    Mai 24, 2008 @ 21:11

    Fun but difficultI found it a bit hard to follow but other than that it was great 🙂

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      Mai 26, 2008 @ 16:23

      Hard to follow in what way?Hard to follow in what way? 😛

      The writing style is hard to read? The quests I make you do are too difficult?

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        Mai 27, 2008 @ 18:03

        I think i understand whereI think i understand where he’s going with it.

        Perhaps links to thottbot/allakhazam, or small versions of the map with white dots on the area you need to farm described next to each quest would be appreciated. Other than that, it’s a great guide and it seems to be pretty flawless to me.

        One suggestion that i would like to make other than that, though. Point out for mages that it may be wise to start leveling 2-3 levels ahead of what your guide follows. It makes it worlds easier to aoe stuff when it’s not your exact level.

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    Mai 27, 2008 @ 3:20

    AwesomeJust wanted to create an account just to say thanks! Wonderfully written and can tell alot of love and time was put into it. This is my second character to level to 70 and with this guide I will be doing it a second time. I was able to nail down a 5 days played to 60 and then hitting 70 at 8 days. Thanks a ton and cant wait to see you in WOTLK!

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    Mai 28, 2008 @ 1:35

    groupingi’m j/w. me and some friends want to group up to 70. would this guide be viable for maybe 2 or 3 people in group?

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      Mai 28, 2008 @ 14:44

      Definitely yes. You mightDefinitely yes. You might sometimes fall behind the guide in experience, but you can make that up by doing the instances, which shouldn’t be too difficult since you already got half a full group 😛

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    Juin 3, 2008 @ 2:00

    ingame guidesDo these guides come with addons like where you can have the addon in the game because when I installed the game I didnt have enough RAM which makes it hard for me to go from the game back to the start menu…when I log out it takes like 5 minutes to go to the character is this guide in an addon format so I can view it in the game or do I have to keep coming to and from here..if so I might just print it out =] thanks.
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      Juin 4, 2008 @ 17:27

      Nope, no addon, just goodNope, no addon, just good old style paper guide 🙂 There’s a ‘printer-friendly’ version available for every guide.

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    Juin 5, 2008 @ 23:18

    21-31 Horde guide – Problem with Homeward Bound questI first want to say thank you for a fantastic guide…I just ran into a slight issue with one of the quests, and thought I would warn people.

    [quote]2. Once you have done that, head to the southeastern corner inside Highperch, you should find a narrow path going up to another plateau, at the end of this plateau you should find a tauren named Pao’Ka with a quest. Take his quest [29] Homeward Bound and escort him out. It’s a pretty simple escort quest, shouldn’t be any problem.[/quote]

    I am certain that this would be easy in most circumstances. However; I am a bit unlucky. A rare elite named Heartrazor [url][/url] is flying around where the escort takes place. Poa’Ka gets owned by him even with me healing him. Then he comes over and eats me for dessert. He seems to like the taste of Lion, Bear and Tauren, because he has eaten me in all 3 forms.

    My advice, if he is there…forget the quest.

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    Juin 6, 2008 @ 0:08

    One big suggestionHey, I’ve wanted to use this guide ever since I found it at like 40, but I cannot, for one huge reason. Every time I try to use it, you have about 10 quests in a row that require a prerequisite quest, and I can’t ever find a spot where you can jump in at any time. If you could put points in the guide that are good to jump in to, that would really help.

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      Juin 10, 2008 @ 18:21

      That’s pretty difficult, ifThat’s pretty difficult, if not impossible, since there isn’t a single moment in the guide where the quest log is empty of quests overlapping from one zone to another. And it would overload the guide with a lot of extra infos, which would make it harder to read (it’s already quite bulky), and it would thus punish those who followed the guide faithfully from the start.

      Therefore, I can’t do that. But what I can do is advise you where to start if you tell me approximately what’s your current situation (level, zones you’ve quested it, etc).

      I can also give you this other advice: just jump in the guide at the beginning of a circuit close to your current level, and ignore the quests you can’t get. After a while, you’ll be back on track, and those quests won’t matter anymore.

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    Juin 6, 2008 @ 22:08

    Pure pwnageJame you rock my socks off! Thanks for putting together such a kick ass guide. We are all indebted to your service and trust me when I say karma will come back to repay you. Keep up the good work!

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    Juin 7, 2008 @ 20:27

    PERFECT GUIDESeriously, I followed this guide from 10 – 70, took me 7 ingame days. I loved it Good Job Jame and all the other contributors! and THANK YOU!

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    Juin 8, 2008 @ 13:09

    the 65-70 partHi, first of all I must say the guide was greatm I leveled it from 45-69, on the part were it said that I should have hit 69, I was actually about 30,000 experience ahead of the guide. But when the guide said that I should have hit 70, I’m still lacking 45% aka 349,000 experience. I have done all the steps inbetween and reread it just to make sure I didn’t miss anything and I didn’t. Just wanted to let you know because I don’t understand what I might have missed.

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      Juin 10, 2008 @ 18:28

      I don’t think you missedI don’t think you missed anything. You probably had very little exp bonus while leveling and did close to zero instances/group quest. That’s probably the reason. Worry not, I’ll add extra circuit soon, starting from where we left off in Netherstorm.

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    Juin 8, 2008 @ 14:56

    Recommended mod to go with CartographerHey jame, love your guides but i have a recommened mod that could possible increase leveling time.

    Its called Liteheaded or lightheaded not sure how they spell it.

    Wat is it? Well its a quest mod not only for quests but it has a interesting feature that allows you to set waypoints on the map and when you do a arrow comes up on ur screen pointing you to the waypoint.

    I thought this would help people who need to mark coords you set so they dont have to keep looking at there map to see if there going the right way.

    Heres a screen of wat it looks like

    The arrow is completely movable so you can put it anywhere on ur screen.

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      Juin 10, 2008 @ 18:26

      That’s a good idea, I’ll addThat’s a good idea, I’ll add that in the addons section of all guides when I get the time 😉

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    Juin 9, 2008 @ 14:28

    M8 you are the best!!!Mate you are the best!!!
    I will translate your lvl. guides on croatian language if you let me??
    I have 2lvl 70, lock and warrior and following your guides was very easy and with very fast lvling…Thanks mate… you are the best!!!
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      Juin 10, 2008 @ 18:33

      That would be great. Send meThat would be great. Send me a private message when you’re ready to start translating.

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    Juin 9, 2008 @ 23:08

    Any tips for a personAny tips for a person wanting to start the guide at level 29 or 37? Personally, I’m kind of lost.

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      Juin 10, 2008 @ 18:25

      I can advise you where toI can advise you where to start if you tell me approximately what’s your current situation (level, zones you’ve quested it, etc).

      I can also give you this other advice: just jump in the guide at the beginning of a circuit close to your current level, and ignore the quests you can’t get. After a while, you’ll be back on track, and those quests won’t matter anymore.

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    Juin 11, 2008 @ 22:53

    A wonderful modThere’s one mod that I think is absolutely great to use. It’s called mobmap. What it does, is you can look up where to find creatures, look up drop rates, where to buy recipes, etc. It’s good to show exactly the drop rates and such. Test it out, you may like it enough to add it to the addon section.

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    Juin 18, 2008 @ 1:27

    Class SpecificsAny plans on adding class specific quests (ex. Warrior for lvl 30 Bezerker Stance, Druid form quests, Shaman totem quests) in the future? They help out by being available to use so that the person can not only be a higher level, but has to tools to know their class inside and out.

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      Juin 18, 2008 @ 16:24

      Not in the near future. I’veNot in the near future. I’ve got way too much on my plate at the moment (see news post about release dates) 😛

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    Juin 19, 2008 @ 4:12

    PDF File?Hi, I’ve been a member for a while and i was just wondering if you were ever going to create a PDF version of your guides? I ask this because there amazing guides and well printing out the whole guide would be kind of a pain.

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      Juin 29, 2008 @ 23:00

      Make your own PDF’s!Well, instead of waiting for Jame and the gang to do that work (and a lot of work it’d be), do it yourself! These guides go through several updates as time goes on, and making a downloadable PDF available would be out of date in little time. So…

      Go read this article on PDFCreator, a freebie Windows add-on that puts a new printer on your printer selection list -> – download and install it. Then, click on the “printer friendly” version button, and print the guide, but be sure to print to the PDFCreater printer instead of your regular printer. And now, instead of printing a dead-tree version of the guide, you’ll get your desired PDF!. This especially comes in handy for making a two-sided printing of the guilde, or printing just a few pages out of the guide. 8)

      For those of you on Macs, you already have this PDF printing feature: when you go to print, look to the bottom left of the printing dialog window and find “PDF”. You can then save a copy of the guide as a PDF. This feature has been in Mac OS/X since version 10.2. Also true with Linux and the BDS’s if you have CUPS. Take -that-, Vista! :p

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    Juin 19, 2008 @ 8:35

    wow!Im a new member here and I must say I realy love this guide. its nice and easy to understand with enough description so that you dont get lost but not so descriptive you start to get a headache from reading the huge amount of text that realy could have been left out.

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    Juin 20, 2008 @ 23:44

    Specific to MagesI’d recommend that Mages are at least 2 levels ahead of the guide if you dont want to die a lot. Thats what i did, and i leveled nicely. All the quests are still yellow, and i get good xp. BTW great guide Jame =)

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    Juin 29, 2008 @ 15:21

    Great GuideI started using your guide when my druid was lvl 33. I went to the start of lvl 30 to pick up quests I was missing and carried on from there. It worked great. I did stop following the guide when I hit Outlands, because my guild ran me through and pushed me through instances to get me to 70.

    I have a mage at lvl 30 and I am going to do the exact same with that one.

    Thank you for creating a wonderful guide. This system works great when you have dual monitors or a second computer beside your gaming one.

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    Juil 2, 2008 @ 23:53

    Done with full guide.ok just done with the complete guide with my mage,started at 21 and dinged 70 with 7 days 8 hours and 24 min.
    And also leveled tailoring too 375 and jc too 330 so i can just say it waz pretty fast with the guide.
    Done 3 chars to 70 before without any guides and the fastest of them were almost 9 days so im superhappy about the guide.

    Tnx for the help Jame an if im gonna lvl some more chars i know were i look for the help,hehe.

    Regards from Naeaf

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    Juil 5, 2008 @ 2:53

    the horde guideI just wanted to take the time to register to thank you for this guide. It was so easy to use.

    I’d suggest this guide to anyone who wishes to get to level 60 (and beyond I am sure) with the quickest and easiest time possible. At lvl 58 I am now 5 days 3 hours played time. I’m sure if I hadn’t farted around so much lvl 1-20 as well as wasted all those hours in the AH and leveling my professions I could have done it in close to 4 days /played. (For example, I spent ALL of lvl 48 killing lvl 50 turtles for turtle scales for leatherworking. ugh.)

    One suggestion I would make, is that you suggest the use of the ‘Questhelper’ addon. I would regularly alt/tab back to review the guide as to where to go exactly, or sometimes use thottbot. With Questhelper you just look at the map and the location of every quest you have is there. It shows you exactly where to go to kill mobs, get drops you need, find people etc etc and also where to turn the quest in. After I got the addon it helped speed things up a little more. Combined with the guide it made leveling a breeze!

    thank you.

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    Juil 7, 2008 @ 15:19

    Fast~suggestionThis guide was really good and fast, but if I may add a suggestion once I entered Ashenvale at lvl 21 I was 4 bars from lvl 22.I saw a quest giver mark (!) on my mini map and went to it. It was an Orc with a quest to assault an alliance outpost. Well I was bored so i took the quest and it turned to get me 2 bars from lvl 22 and only took me about 5> minutes. If you don’t want to add it its fine with me but it might make something else easier.
    Domobb 😉

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      Juil 7, 2008 @ 17:16

      It’s already in the guide, aIt’s already in the guide, a few levels later.

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        sorryOh ok sorry, I must have missed it }:)

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    Juil 9, 2008 @ 1:44

    Money Making GuideHi Jame. When is the guide coming out that finishes Netherstorm and Shadowmoon?

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      Juil 16, 2008 @ 15:56

      Haven’t decided on releaseHaven’t decided on release dates yet, sorry, but I will soon.

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      Barry Mikguires
      Sep 20, 2008 @ 2:48

      There’s one mod that I thinkThere’s one mod that I think is absolutely great to use. It’s called mobmap. What it does, is you can look up where to find creatures, look up drop rates, where to buy recipes, etc. It’s good to show exactly the drop rates and such. Test it out, you may like it enough to add it to the addon section.

      Name – Mikguires
      Email – mikiguires[at]
      AIM – mgm1980
      Yahoo – mgm1980
      Start a Petition

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        Sep 20, 2008 @ 6:52

        Sounds good, I’ll try itSounds good, I’ll try it out. Thank you 🙂

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    Juil 10, 2008 @ 8:38

    Ive got a problem…Ive leveled many characters since wow came out. But one thing I try to avoid is STV and instead level in desolace. I was suprised to see STV on the places to go. My lvl 33ish warrior could not do much quests in STV without getting ganked especially around Nessingwary’s camp.

    It has taken me around 5 hours to do all the quests in STV because of alliance camping Nessingwary. I had to log out for the day because BGs had shut down and a lot of 70 alliance have decided to raid STV instead. Just my luck!

    Maybe you could create an optional place to level instead of STV?

    — TKMantis

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      Juil 16, 2008 @ 15:59

      I wish I could create aI wish I could create a magical place to replace STV, trust me. Sadly it doesn’t exist and blizzard refuses to let me create a cow level, because they are an evil company. 🙁

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        Juil 26, 2008 @ 22:17

        haha, Diablo 2 cow levelshaha, Diablo 2 cow levels ftw.

        Your Alliance guide was great from chapter I to III. (That’s all I used 😉 ) I absolutely recommend this guide for anyone. Great tool to use when you want a fast way to 70. Amazing guide, and continue to update. Maybe they’ll throw in a WoW cow land somewhere. 25-man raid for the Cow King.

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    Juil 11, 2008 @ 18:01

    Unsure wether to use guide….im a level 39 lock and i really wanna use your guide,however in the past ive done alot of quests higher than my level,and i was just wondering where to start following your guide,and is it possible for me to? and will i end up having to have a big grinding session to catch up?


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      Juil 16, 2008 @ 16:00

      You’ll most likely have zeroYou’ll most likely have zero grinding to do.

      Just jump in the guide at the beginning of a circuit close to your current level, and ignore the quests you can’t get. After a while, you’ll be back on track, and those quests won’t matter anymore.

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    Juil 18, 2008 @ 22:38

    Where to start now??Hi,i have lvl 52 paladin and lvl 41 rogue.i was at the begining chapter3 (41-51) with rogue,and begining of the chapter4 (51-60)(both old versions).Now Blizz made lvling easier till 60.Where should i start with the new guides?Btw i followed Jame’s guides with 3 chars before Tbc and it’s a realy good guide.

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      Juil 20, 2008 @ 0:29

      Just jump in the guide atJust jump in the guide at the beginning of a circuit close to your current level, and ignore the quests you can’t get. After a while, you’ll be back on track, and those quests won’t matter anymore

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    Juil 20, 2008 @ 6:21

    SuggestionThere is a easy questline that invloves goign places you are alredy going that should be added to your guide.
    During the level 30 section, add a part at either the part when your going from TB->hearthstone->Org or Splintertree->Org (start of level 31)To stop at the cross roads and pick up the quest then deliver it to the guy in orgrimar at the start of level 31 section for a easy 1450xp and pick up the follow up. Then turn in the follow up at the start of the 32 section when you are running to the shimmering flats for a easy 2150 xp, and pick up the follow up. If at the end of the 32 section you find yourself not 33 yet compleat the third section of this quest rather then killing random guys otherwise abandon it. (Its a hardish quest)

    Also another thing you might want to add, is that at the end of the 31 section you can pick up the quest then turn it in when your flying from Orgrimar too freewind post, for a measily 675xp, (not out of your way though) and pick up the follow up and turn it in whenever you reach the desolance level 37 section for another 675xp, really only worth 6 kills of XP but its really easy and quicker then killing the 6 guys.

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    Juil 20, 2008 @ 12:37

    Where to start =)Hey Jame, i’d first of all like to say Kudos to you on making such a fantastic looking free guide.

    I’ve been using another outdated leveling guide up until this point, but it has alot of errors and I feel as though im running around way too much.

    I’d like to ask you on your view of where I should START in your guide. I play Priest alongside a Mage friend of mine and we have been exclusively questing together in a Group since we started. We are now level 25, and we have done nearly ALL Stonetalon and Southern Barrens quests. Done 2 quests in Ashenvale and started in 1k needles (done message to freewind Post, alien egg, pacify the centaur, test of faith). We have NOT touched any quests in Hillsbrad though.

    Bearing in mind I quest in a group, (and most of the time been behind the old guide in terms of xp and what lvl I ought to be when I finish a zone) where do you suggest I start on your guide. I’ve heard you say that being infront of your guide (lvl & xp-wise) is a good thing?

    I look forward to your reply, and fully understand that it will take a while to get back on track to the guide when starting mid-way, but any pointers on a place to start would be greatly appreciated. ^^

    Many thanks, Hirsch. 🙂

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      Juil 21, 2008 @ 19:03

      Just jump in the guide atJust jump in the guide at the beginning of a circuit close to your current level, and ignore the quests you can’t get. After a while, you’ll be back on track, and those quests won’t matter anymore.

      And yes, being ahead of the guide is a good thing. But if you fall behind it’s not so bad either, because since you duo you’ll probably have an easier time to do elite quests / instances to catch up.

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    Juil 22, 2008 @ 15:50

    Level 52 Warlock.Hello Jame, I’ve read through quite a bit of your guide and it seems excellent. I’ve never used it before and I’m a level 52 Orc Warlock. Was wondering what you think is the best place to jump in. I’m one to finish random quests and I noticed that my leveling is getting very slow around this level so hoping your guide will help me progress, since I did random quests what do you recommend, following your guide and if I have already finished the quest ignore that quest and do the others that you state?

    Thank you for your feedback and your great guide! 🙂

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      Juil 22, 2008 @ 21:03

      Just jump in the guide atJust jump in the guide at the beginning of a circuit close to your current level, and ignore the quests you can’t get. After a while, you’ll be back on track, and those quests won’t matter anymore.

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    Juil 26, 2008 @ 2:30

    hellohey james great guide.
    i have a 70 now and i was just wondering if you are gonna create some quest circuits for the rest of netherstorm and shadowmoon valley so i can get money for my epic flyer. 😕 😛

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      Juil 29, 2008 @ 0:56

      Yes I will, I just need toYes I will, I just need to get some time. Too busy at the moment 🙁

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    Juil 29, 2008 @ 1:15

    Thank you for this!I had two level 60 alliance characters before I switched to Horde. I zipped my main up to 70 with the help of a buddy. Now I’m leveling my second character on my own. I was completely dreading this, my fourth trip up the ladder to 60 (and beyond) but this guide is making my trip fun. I’m exploring zones and grabbing quests I didn’t know existed.

    Thank you so much – I recommend your guide to everyone I know!


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    Juil 29, 2008 @ 20:41

    Hey Jame!

    Long time user ofHey Jame!

    Long time user of your guide here, though just now getting around to signing up to add some comments 🙂

    This guide is absolutely phenomenal, even before the revamp with the awesome maps! I have been using it ever since about level 50 on my alliance druid, and have since used it to level that to 62-ish (before the post-60 guides), another druid to 63, a warlock on a PvP server to 50 (my current main), and numerous other characters to the 35-40 range.

    If there was one thing bad about this guide, it would have to be that it makes me level too fast to quest or instance with other lowbies, unless they happen to catch me just at the right time!

    While taking time to level tailoring, mining, first aid, cooking, and even some fishing, I leveled my warlock on a PvP server to level 50 in under 5 days /played. There was also some significant BG play, random chatting, and leaving the game on while I went to eat or whatever.

    Every time I re-use your guide, I see more additions and updates. Major props to you for keeping it up to date!

    I cannot believe you are offering up this masterpiece for free, but people sure love you for it! Do you accept any form of donations?

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      Juil 31, 2008 @ 21:09

      Hey, glad you decided toHey, glad you decided to register and post comments then 😉

      Yes, we definitely accept donations, it’s in the contribute tab.

      Or you can simply follow this link:

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    Juil 29, 2008 @ 21:07

    My preferred addonsReading some of the comments, I thought I would post my recommendation of addons:

    [b]Carbonite Quests:[/b]
    Carbonite Quests is something that seems to have been recently released, but it is an all-in-wonder addon. It includes the neatest implementation of maps I’ve seen – using the Google Earth style of scrolling and zooming.

    In addition, it has what I feel is actually a better quest assistance mod than QuestHelper (Though your maps sometimes looks like someone took a box of origami paper and threw it at you. If that is overwhelming, you can right-click the map areas and select “stop tracking” to removing them.).

    It’s not done yet, the addon also comes with it’s own quest mod, information-sharing add-in (even reports when you level to others using the mod if you want it too), and other small bonuses, like showing your current speed and keeping a “punk list” for PvP.

    What I feel is an awesome companion mod to this is called QuestIon. It is a quest mod that, once you get past a bit of a learning curve, is incredibly flexible. It also adds one key piece of functionality: It checks to see if the mob you are highlighting is related to any quest you are trying to complete (it’s not perfect, but gets a large percentage right, like 92-95%). If it is related, the quest objective appears as part of the mob’s tooltip! Occasionally you’ll get a good laugh too, like when you see that a hunter’s pet is needed for your quest to kill raptors 🙂

    Finally, a very simple addon that moves those tooltips out of they’re obnoxious home in the corner of the screen and onto your mouse, with lots of nice colorations based on friendliness and such, all while making them very small, is called TinyTip

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    Juil 30, 2008 @ 1:34

    Great!!I’ve been playing MMORPG’s since the beginning, except for WoW. I finally decided to try it, and with your guide, as a complete NEWB, I’ve reached level 43 in 3 days played. I wasn’t looking forward to starting a new MMO all over again, but your guide has made the experience enjoyable. THANKS!!! 🙂

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    Août 13, 2008 @ 11:16

    AmazingHey jame! I just had to say.. you are an absolute genious! To be able to have thought of such good quest routes and picking the right quests must have taken you ages!

    my hats off to you!

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      Sep 8, 2008 @ 16:59

      ThanksThanks 🙂

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    Août 17, 2008 @ 1:54

    Absolutly Stunning…All I can say is wow. You put in a lot of work into this and it shows. I’ve used this guide to level several alts of mine. Unfortunately, I didn’t find it until after I got my first 70. Took a long time too, lol. Fabulous work!

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      Sep 8, 2008 @ 16:59

      Thanks a lot guys.Thanks a lot guys.

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    Août 20, 2008 @ 6:51

    This guide is amazing to say the leastJame,

    I don’t know where I would be without this guide (probably running in circles doing quests that are completely useless)! It works perfectly, I even started at level 33 when I found out about it, and I have been able to seamlessly hop right in, and I’m already level 46 after about 2 days of playing! I end up leveling more quickly than the guide says at the beginning of each chapter and by chapters’ end I am dead on! I recommend this guide to every single person I group up with and I have yet to get negative feedback. Thank you so much for the time and effort you put forth to help the ever-growing WoW community, it is very much appreciated. Take care and keep up the GREAT work.

    Lethon – Horde

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    Août 20, 2008 @ 8:36

    Thank you!Hey Jame,
    I just wanted to thank you for your absolutely amazing guide! I had to give up on lots of lvl 70 toons due to Serverchange (from EU to US) I started to lvl a rouge and was about to give up and never play WoW again when it was about lvl 21, then I found your guide. I’ve been always against using guides to lvl but decided to at least give it a try. And I loved it!
    My rogue is currently lvl 56 and got there in no time.
    So again ab big THANK YOU!
    /bow 😉

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      Sep 9, 2008 @ 13:32

      Glad I converted you!Glad I converted you! 😛

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    Août 20, 2008 @ 18:07

    howdeeBeen a while, leveled 2 alliance characters with the guide. I cancelled my account for 6 months but just recently got the bug again to play. after immediatly realizing the game is a total grind at 70 right now (pre LK) and having made 10k gold in the AH and dailies in just 2 weeks i realized i had plenty of money and was totally bored.

    so the time has come again! i started a few ally characters and it was just more of the same old game. its fun but something was just not exciting about it. enter the horde leveling guide! yes i have decided to level my first horde character and i used snowflake’s 1-21 in 2 days (12hrs played!!!) to get it done and now im on your 21-70 guides.

    yes this is long winded but to everyone out there i have to say its almost like a whole new game playing the other faction. except you allready know how to play the game. its really fun again!! thanks wow-pro!

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      Sep 9, 2008 @ 13:47

      Glad to hear. By the way,Glad to hear. By the way, 10K in 2 weeks? That’s pretty darn good. You wouldn’t feel like writing a guide about it by any chance? 😉

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    Août 26, 2008 @ 20:01

    Your Leveling guides rule!Hi Jame,

    I use your guide a lot and really like it and it works awesome! But im walking a little bit behead of the guide because im almost 48 and still doing the quests of begin lvl 47 because I tought I couldn’t just skip half the guide if i was ahead. So what should I do? Just follow the guide or skip the part until its correct for my lvl.

    Greetzz,, Feroby

    P.S: Sorry for some of the bad english xD

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      Sep 9, 2008 @ 14:56

      ell, first of all, let meWell, first of all, let me just tell you that being ahead of my guide in levels is actually a good thing, so don’t worry about it. Unless the quests make you kill grey mobs, you shouldn’t skip anything. Just skip the optional circuits when there are some. If the quests are grey, what you can do is quickly check if the quest has a follow up (or several follow ups). If it doesn’t, just abandon the quest and move on.

      Just use the search function (CTRL + F) and type the name of the quest and you’ll quickly find out if it’s part of a chain or not. You can also look that up on

      Hope it helps.

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    Sep 15, 2008 @ 2:45

    i always used your guide toi always used your guide to level my guys and i finally joined, just wanted to say that your guide is awesome and i cant wait to use it to get to 80 😀

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      Sep 18, 2008 @ 15:26

      Just found this page, making a new characterWell, I found this page after looking at a bunch of other expensive, usless guides. I’m making a blood elf (but leveling him in the undead area) using your guide. After using the undead 1-13 and then the guide after that, I’ll switch to James guide. So, wish me luck! 😉

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        Sep 18, 2008 @ 16:35

        Welcome to wow-pro

        Are youWelcome to wow-pro 🙂

        Are you sure you want to level your blood elf in the Undead area? The Blood Elf starting zones are so much better, and we got an amazing guide for those zones, made by Snowflake. I really recommend following [url=]Snowflake’s Blood Elf Starting Guide[/url] and [url=]Snowflake’s Ghostland Guide[/url].

        Anyway, enjoy!

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    Sep 18, 2008 @ 22:03

    Thanks once againI have thanked you before, but thought I could do it again.

    I have tried out your guide for both Horde and Alliance now and they speed up my leveling process so much. I`m the kind of person who wants to do it my own way the first time though, so I leveled up my first character to 70 by my own before I started using guides for my alts. Now I used your Alliance guide from 20 to 60 on a shaman, Horde guide from 30 to 60 on a paladin and previously I did it on a hunter (started with Snowflake’s blood elf guide and then moved over to yours). The hunter was level 41 last wednesday and got 60 this wednesday. I`m currently using your Outland guide and this far it’s very useful. Keep up the good work.

    PS. I won’t use your Northrend guide before I have done it once myself first though. 😉

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      Sep 18, 2008 @ 23:41

      Happy to hear, thanks forHappy to hear, thanks for your comment 🙂

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        Oct 3, 2008 @ 5:42

        No problem at all. It’s funNo problem at all. It’s fun to level up alts. I currently have an alt of almost every level range (10/20/30/40/50/60/70) and pop in on those I want to do some circuits on. When I leveled up my latest alt, the blood elf hunter (currently level 64), I kept comparing my leveling range with my guild mates. One of them was 56 when I was 35 and when I was 64, he was 62. All thanks to the leveling guides.

        You write that you’re planning to do class specific guides? Are you also planning on modifying the guides to have professions taken into account? “How to NOT level past your mining” for example. On the other hand, maybe too many variations of the guides would only lead to one big mess of it all.

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          Oct 3, 2008 @ 17:17

          It’s just as you said, I’mIt’s just as you said, I’m currently debating it. Tradeskills are really subjective to what one wants to do with his character. If one wants to just be as powerful as possible, one will go for enchanting for the ring / neck enchants for example. If one wants to make money while leveling, they’d go for gathering skills.

          So I don’t want to force any tradeskill on any class and for now I’ll just leave them aside and simply focus on other things.

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    Sep 27, 2008 @ 22:21

    new guidemake a guide for 11-20!
    i dont think we need a guide for 1-10 though…thats too easy!

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      Sep 28, 2008 @ 0:06

      That’s something I’ll do inThat’s something I’ll do in the future yes, for now though, I have the 70-80 guides to focus on first :p

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    Sep 29, 2008 @ 12:40

    Re 70-80 guideHey jame
    great job on the guilds, just a small question and if youve already answered it feel free to beat me with a small stick… but … how soon after wotlk comes out do you think ull have the horde guide ready.

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      Sep 29, 2008 @ 20:59

      Check our front page.Check our front page. Release Dates, 2nd article from the top ^^. No beating for this time, but next time…! 😉

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    Sep 29, 2008 @ 21:11

    Ahhh so thats what the readAhhh so thats what the read more button is for 😛

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      Sep 29, 2008 @ 21:40

      Why yes it is!Why yes it is! }:)

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    Oct 1, 2008 @ 16:10

    Linked AccountsEllo James.

    I have been following your guides for nearly two years [I think two years] and really do think they are the best “inventions” since sliced bread. 😀

    Now, recently a friend of mine was like – “I want to play WoW…” and I was like – “Ok, lets link our accounts.” and so we linked accounts. As you may figure, the EXP rate is a bit of a joke. One level every 30 – 40 mins, depending on how well we are playing. I have been using you guide as well so… ^_^

    We are now level 42… and I am still following the level 38 section of Horde guide. What would you recommend I do? Should I follow as normal? Or skip sections every so often?

    Anyways, thanks for these great guides. They have been blessings in disguise over the past few years.



    PS… I can’t form questions terribly well. 😛

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      Oct 1, 2008 @ 17:13

      Thanks for your kind wordsThanks for your kind words 🙂

      I recommend skipping some zones yes, preferably those without long quest chains, like Swamps of Sorrows and the Badlands I guess.

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    Oct 2, 2008 @ 0:42

    60-70 after WoTLK Drops?Hey Jame, just want to first of all say, that your guides are an absolute god send for some one trying to catch up after getting a late start at the game.

    Just wondering if you were going to work on a 60-70 guide for after WoTLK drops and they change the exp rate to make those levels quicker? (Or is that basically the Death Knight 60-70 guide that you have in the works?)

    Just wondering because I just hit outlands, and if so I will probably start an alt, un till the exp rates are lowered.

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      Oct 2, 2008 @ 8:29

      Hey, thank you

      Actually,Hey, thank you 🙂

      Actually, there’s no reason for me to change my guides after they change the exp rate. The only thing I will change is tell people that they’re free to go to Northrend when they hit level 70 while following my outland guide. They can also finish the outland circuits and get close to level 71 before going to Northrend, that’s also a good choice.

      The only thing that matters is how much XP/hour you get from following my guides. And there’s pretty much nothing I can do to increase the XP/hour rate in my outland guides, so they’ll be just as good as before even when they change the xp curves for 60-70.

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    Oct 2, 2008 @ 1:50

    hey jame
    my pops says yourhey jame
    my pops says your guide is great!
    he levels so fast!
    well im level 37 and id like to start using it
    should i start at the level 37 section or somwhere else?
    my exp bar is almost at the beginning, one bar padt at most

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      Oct 2, 2008 @ 8:36

      Hey, glad your pops likesHey, glad your pops likes the guide! 8)

      About your question:

      First you should do the first batch of quests from Booty Bay.

      Look for this line at level 33:

      “Then take the boat to Booty Bay.”

      Follow the guide from there until the end of the booty bay circuits (around lvl 34).

      Then jump to the level 37. There’ll be a few quests you miss, but just ignore those.

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    Oct 2, 2008 @ 19:47

    My lvl 26Where should i start on this guide for a level 26? I’ve done all the Hillsbrad quests except for the Battle Of Hillsbrad 6 and 7 and the two high level quests at TM. Any help would be appreciated as i keep getting confused on where to start because I am missing quests and whatnot.

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    Oct 5, 2008 @ 15:25

    Where to ?Hello!
    I´m a lvl 47 Undead rogue!
    I have finished all the quest that is on lvl 47-50…
    where shall i level?
    i havent follow the guide but now when i found it i see it´s a relly nice one :D!
    so where shall i continue my andventure?

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    Oct 7, 2008 @ 1:50

    Questing with your guide yet again! :DHello james!!! 🙂

    I have used your guide once before to lvl my rogue up to 70 (and he currently has reached that goal + full s2 gear 😛 ). Recently a buddy of mine has shared his beta account with me and because of playing the wotlk beta i have decided to roll a warrior and have gotten him up to lvl 29 so far (lvl 30 very soon). I have decided because your guide is so helpful and awesome to use it once more but I was wondering if you can tell me where in the guide i should start off in? And by the way I just started the XP circut in shimmering flats in 1000 needles. i know you get tons of people asking the same question but i was hoping for a specific answer. TYVM ahead of time and love the guide

    P.S. cant wait for your WOTLK guide 🙂 🙂 🙂

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      Oct 7, 2008 @ 12:06

      Meh, I don’t know

      YouMeh, I don’t know :p

      You could do the last circuit of the previous chapter in Ashenvale.

      Look for this line:

      [quote]1. Fly to Splintertree Post. Make the inn your home. Take [30] Destroy the Legion from Valusha. [/quote]

      And then just follow the 31-41 chapter, if there’s any quest you miss from the previous chapter, just ignore them, you’ll catch up with the guide at some point anyway, it’s made that way :p

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        Oct 9, 2008 @ 4:46

        TY for the replyAHA! Ty for the reply and i will get right on that. There has been some real freaky lag in the WHOLE area of Eastern kingdoms on my server (blackrock) and it goes from tirisfal glades all the way down to Booty bay…its just the whole damn continent…and its not just me..every1 else has the damned lag too…so questing there is horrible picking up on the guide in ashenvale will by some time before they fix the lag. Btw has any1 else experienced this problem on other servers or on my server?

        LOVE THE GUIDE!!
        P.S. If you ever wanna talk or anything my main is Samfischer on blackrock and my alt that im lvling right now is Wargodsz 😉 😛

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    Oct 7, 2008 @ 13:01

    Thanks a million man.Well, I got 70 on Friday, October 5, and it was all thanks to you. I’ve followed your guide since level 21, and I’ve always thought about posting a comment on here. I made my druid on June 23, got him to 20 (on the free trial) using the guides on this website, then I bought WoW and went from there. He’ll probably be my only 70, and sooner or later my only 80. I’ll admit since I have a month to do heroics and stuff before WoTLK, It’ll be alot different without you “telling me where to go,” but I’m sure I’ll get by. I’ll admit I had my troubles, (mostly because I can’t get any addons on my computer,) so your cartographer points didn’t make things any easier… Thanks a million man!

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      Oct 7, 2008 @ 16:40

      You’re welcome. And don’tYou’re welcome. And don’t worry, I’ll always write my guides in paper format and make maps for those who can’t or don’t want to install addons.

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    Oct 10, 2008 @ 17:21

    Hey jame. thanks a bunch forHey jame. thanks a bunch for the guide would be no where near 65 if it wasnt for you 🙂 but i do have 1 problem 🙁 in the 6065 section at 64 near the end there is a quest called “skywing” in the description it says you should be able to solo it just interupt his casts his melee isnt that hard. i dont know if it was changed but his melle is like 1k on my whereas his lighting bolt is only 600 😕 anything i can do? tyvm 😉

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      Oct 10, 2008 @ 20:43

      Try to let the bird tank asTry to let the bird tank as much as possible and don’t interrupt his casts.

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    Oct 11, 2008 @ 17:00

    Thanks a BUNCHI don’t know what to say Jame… If my friend did not suggested your guide I would have never hit 70 on my Rogue… I never even thought of having a Character at the level cap… Anyway… Great guide, got to 70 in /played 11 days… Don’t know what I would have done without it. Oh ya… Not hit 70 haha… Would have stayed at 39 :sick:

    Keep up the great work! 😉

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      Oct 11, 2008 @ 21:30

      Glad to hear, I hope you’llGlad to hear, I hope you’ll try my WotLK guides too 🙂

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    Oct 11, 2008 @ 20:30

    After 2 going on 3 yearsAfter 2 going on 3 years using your guides, I felt I had to leave a message saying thanks, your guides are awesome and i almost know them by heart thanks to how many alts ive levelled!

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      Oct 11, 2008 @ 21:43

      Awesome, glad to hear thatAwesome, glad to hear that 🙂

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    Oct 15, 2008 @ 15:30

    Where do i starthey jame.

    started my alt and he is level 34 and im half way to the next one. i heard good things about your guide in my guild, when i compained about the paying for guides(never used those). anyway, i have done some quests here and there (desolace, hillsbrad and arathi highlands)but havent been in sranglethorn vale yet. where do i start ?

    Thanks in advance

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      Oct 15, 2008 @ 17:05

      Hey, just start at theHey, just start at the beginning of the level 31-41 guide, ignore the quests you’ve already done and the ones you can’t get because you don’t have the pre-reqs. You will probably be ahead of my guide in levels, but that’s actually a good thing.

      At some point you should be back on track with the guide anyway 🙂

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    Oct 18, 2008 @ 14:22

    Hey Jame!Hey Jame! I’m currently leveling my 4th char to 70, following your guide. First time I used this guide was two years ago, and I almost couldn’t believe there was such guides out there, free! I leveled to 60 in 14 days, and was really proud, since that was my first char. After leveling three other chars, I felt it was time to thank you for the effort you are putting into these guides, not many would do this without feeling without being obligated to it:D I also find it really cool that you actually reply to what people ask for, telling them at what point in the guide to start on, even if it’s almost selfexplained in the guide 😛

    Keep up the good work Jame, good luck with the WoTLK guide 🙂

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    Oct 20, 2008 @ 20:01

    Thx a lotI only got like 6 lvls (from 32 to 36) and in only 8 hours of game play (first toon so im a newb XD)but I didn’t knew what to do at my lvl, everything seeming too high or too low and this guide helped me alot to pass this difficult task, it’s sure that I will use it to lvl up to 70 (or 80 when wotlk will come out :P)

    Thanks alot


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      Oct 20, 2008 @ 20:25

      You’re welcomeYou’re welcome 🙂

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    Oct 22, 2008 @ 4:40

    Well, this sucks.By the time I stumbled on this guide, I’d already purchased the paid Alliance and Horde guides (being an altaholic, I was becoming frustrated that I couldn’t seem to level efficiently–desperation FTL?), and while those guides are fantastic, this one is fantastic and I didn’t have to drop 30-something bucks for them first.


    AND you go to Hillsbrad.

    The only thing I could suggest, maybe, would maybe be adding links to the quests. But, since you have nice, shiny images that show you where to go, anyway, I imagine it would hardly be worth the effort. Anyway, great guides, I hope to get some use of them! And thank you for not charging for them. 😀

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      Oct 22, 2008 @ 9:31

      Sorry to hear you had toSorry to hear you had to spent 30 bucks :/

      At least now you know where to look for free wotlk leveling guides, and I assure you they will be of higher quality than anything you can buy out there.

      Spread the word, tell your friends about my guides, and you might help them save some cash 😛

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    Oct 22, 2008 @ 5:10

    Hey just wondering if youHey just wondering if you have any 1-21 guides??
    Oh yeah and great guide 🙂 5/5

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      Oct 22, 2008 @ 9:34

      We’ve got a lot of 1-21We’ve got a lot of 1-21 guides, I just didn’t write them myself but they are just as good.

      There’s a whole list here:

      [url=]1-70 Alliance & Horde Leveling Guides[/url]

      I personally recommend Snowflake’s and Boston’s leveling guides.

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    Oct 24, 2008 @ 23:22

    Outlands Gold QuestsHi James,
    I made it to 70 and was wondering this. You mentioned that you guide would avoid going to netherstorm and shadowmoon as they have good gold pay outs for the quests once a person in level 70. My question is do you have a guide to do those areas as I found that doing your guides even though I didnt level as fast ie doing professions etc. ( my fault not the guides)gave really good structure to the leveling process. If you do have guides for the quest in that area or can recommend some that would be fantastic. :-)Well back to pvp Angryrogue.

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      Oct 25, 2008 @ 9:30

      Sadly not yet. My guidesSadly not yet. My guides only cover about half of the Netherstorm quests, and none of the SMV quests, so you’ll be on your own for these, until I release extra circuits for these zones (will do it in the future, after WotLK leveling guides).

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    Oct 25, 2008 @ 16:59

    How much?Hey there James, i was wondering how much would this take? I like…have 2-3hours per day play time, and i was just wondering how much this would take, since WotLK is coming out. I hoped i would level 70 in time to go into northrend. But even if i dont its better couze with my sucky computer i wouldnt move at all in northrend, since the whole realm is in one map 😀
    So, if i have only 2 hours per day of play time, how much time would it take for me to get to level 70?


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      Oct 26, 2008 @ 12:56

      7 days /played on average7 days /played on average from 1 to 70, without zero rested bonus. With rested bonus you can probably lower it down to 6 days /played. That’s of course if you don’t waste time doing tradeskills, AH browsing, pvp, or whatever that gets in the way of questing.

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        Oct 27, 2008 @ 17:32

        Faster with patchI would hesitantly say its probably even faster now, with the changes to the leveling from 60-70. That was a pretty big chunk of time before, and it’s like a breaze with the newest patch. 🙂

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          Oct 27, 2008 @ 17:37

          Oh yes, you’re absolutelyOh yes, you’re absolutely right, that was with the old xp curve. It’s probably much less than that now, and I have no idea exactly how much. If someone finds out, please let me know ^^

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    Oct 27, 2008 @ 17:09

    Another thanks!Like so many others, I want to thank you Jame! My friends keep asking me, how are you leveling so fast? I always refer them to your guide. While I am glad I leveled my first toon without a guide so I could explore on my own, this has been such a help for my alt. Thanks to yoru guide, I have met my goal of getting my druid to level 70 before the expansion hits!

    I am really looking forward to your WotLK guides. Now all I have to do is decide wether to level my druid or my rogue!

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      Oct 27, 2008 @ 17:32

      You’re welcome! Please keepYou’re welcome! Please keep using my guide and telling your friends about it, that’s the best you can do to help wow-pro grow bigger and bigger.

      I wish I could help you about choosing what class to leve, but I’m just as confused as you 😛 I’m probably gonna end up leveling every class in the end anyway ^^

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    Oct 27, 2008 @ 19:07

    Thanks so muchHey i just wanted to thank you for all your hard work and dedication on this guide and I especially want to thank you for not selling like all those other leveling guides out there, i honestly think this guide is a better quality than those guide anyway. I plan to level a new character using this guide starting today hopefully ill have enough time to get to 70 before lich king. Wish me luck!

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    Oct 27, 2008 @ 19:57

    Thanks!I am sure you get a ton of thanks everyday, as you should, thought I would send mine along. I had two level 70’s and could not bear leveling a third, and was dreading the expansion leveling. Thanks to your guides, leveling my druid was a breeze, and I cannot wait to level all three of my 70’s in the expansion. Thanks so much for all the work that you do!

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    Oct 27, 2008 @ 21:18

    what do i do?I’m a big instance-leveler. My dad suggested using the guide, because he thinks it may be quicker. I decided to start the guide at lvl 41 (because i was level 40 at the time ). But the quests [Bloodscalp Clan Heads(41)] and [Split Bone Necklace(42)] weren’t available to me in Grom’gol. Are these quests part of a chain or were they taken out during the 3.0 patch? Are there any other chain quests i should complete before using the guide?
    BTW great guide, 5/5, mine and my dad’s opinion 😛

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      Oct 27, 2008 @ 21:33

      You can’t get those questsYou can’t get those quests because you didn’t do the pre-reqs. You should go to my previous chapter and do the stranglethorn vale circuits to catch up with the quest lines, then you should be back on track.

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    Oct 29, 2008 @ 22:31

    Excelent guides!Jame, I am thrilled over your guides! They are all excelent in every way. I do not see what your guides dont have that other guides required payment do. I’ve been using your guides and they have helped me alot, all my friends have been informed about your superb guides by me, I would like to thank you a whole lot for taking your time writing and effort your leveling guides!

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      Oct 29, 2008 @ 23:52

      You’re very welcome!You’re very welcome!

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    Nov 1, 2008 @ 19:06

    Jame..Jame.. Please can I have your babies? 🙂
    Your guides got me my first 70 after more than a year of playing WoW, and I plan to level more characters with your guides in the future. Thankyou ever so much for taking time to write these guides, and more importantly, thanks for not charging us for them!
    I love you.
    In the most unscariest way possible.

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      Nov 2, 2008 @ 23:00

      Hehe, thanks! You’re an oldHehe, thanks! You’re an old wow-pro member aren’t you? I remember your avatar from somewhere 🙂

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    Nov 3, 2008 @ 20:10

    Me?Me? Why, yes. I guess I am.. >.<
    And my avatar is crappy. I made this account after I deleted a load of files. And that was the only suitable picture for this site.. o.o

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    Nov 3, 2008 @ 20:23

    Love the helpThanks so much for all the work you’ve put into this guide. Fantastic Job. I’m in the process of leveling up my third character to a high level. Having done it twice already I was dreading it untill I came across your guide. Its helped so much and i’m easily going to be level 70 by WOTLK release, which makes me so happy 😀 So thank you Jame!

    A couple things you may want to add to your guide. I’ve followed the 60-65 thru completion, and because of the new outland xp change im level 68 at the end of it. I’m going to keep going thru the 65-70 step for step because its easy. Anyways back to my point, because i’ve followed step by step, you may want to add in your guides that if you do follow it step for step you will end up with the Hellfire and Zangamarsh quest achievements. A little something people might like to know.

    Thanks again 😀

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      Nov 4, 2008 @ 1:48

      Always nice to know, IAlways nice to know, I haven’t had the time to test that out at all lately.

      Do you know by any chance if you also get the Terokkar / Nagarand / BeM achievements while following my guides? If anyone finds out, let me know 😛

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        Nov 4, 2008 @ 2:14

        I just did your TerokkarI just did your Terokkar quests, you end up 3 quests short. I’ll let you know once I do the others 🙂

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          Nov 4, 2008 @ 5:40

          Actually during the NagrandActually during the Nagrand section you complete the Terokkar quests – right after turning in [65] Success! in the south-western tip of Terokkar.

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            Nov 4, 2008 @ 10:13

            AwesomeAwesome 🙂

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              Nov 9, 2008 @ 6:25

              Just completed the NagrandJust completed the Nagrand section, still 68/87 quests for the achievement, so that one may be a no-go.

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                Nov 9, 2008 @ 10:53

                That must be all the groupsThat must be all the groups quests and that long quest chain involving thrall.

                I think I’ll revamp my Outland guides a little in the future to include 100% of the quests, for achievement addicts 🙂

                Did you do the ring of blood? 6 quests.
                All the nesingwary group quests? 4 quests.

                These are optional in my guide, but it would get you quite close already.

                There’s also that other 3-man chain with Atruis the Suffer (about 6 more quests). Not included in my guide.

                And there’s also those other groups quests with the ogre king and also that big elemental.

                Durn the hungerer would also add one.

                And then there’s the thrall chain, I won’t bother counting that one, but that should definitely give the achievement.

                It’s just too bad I can’t include these in the normal leveling guide, because you can’t solo those quests and finding a group is getting harder and harder for old zones.

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                  Nov 9, 2008 @ 20:50

                  I did all optional questsI did all optional quests including ring of blood, big game hunter, the Goredawg one, and the other ogre one. And Durn. I haven’t done the Altruis ones or the ones with Thrall yet. I seem to also remember one that sends you under Oshu’gon but that may be the one with Thrall.

                  It’s nice having a guild of bored 70s to help do group quests 🙂

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                    Nov 9, 2008 @ 23:52

                    Hmm that’s a lot of missingHmm that’s a lot of missing quests then, I’ll have to look into this when I get the time.

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    Nov 6, 2008 @ 2:57

    JamesThank you so much for your guides. I quit WoW, but I saw your guides and decided to give it a go. Without you, I would have not started WoW again. Thanks so much! Me and my brother love leveling together with your guides. Thanks a bunch!

    General: “Fire at will!”

    Will: “NOOOO!”

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      Nov 6, 2008 @ 3:04

      Great, the more the merrierGreat, the more the merrier 😉

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      Nov 9, 2008 @ 13:10

      your guide rules man,your guide rules man, idol!!!!

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    Nov 10, 2008 @ 6:12

    WotLKAny suggestions for upcoming DK’s on where to start in on your guides or any possibility of a DK guide to help figure out the pre-req quests?

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      Nov 10, 2008 @ 11:04

      55-61: Follow my Death[b]55-61[/b]: Follow my [url=]Death Knight Leveling Guides[/url]
      [b]61-70[/b]: Follow my Outland Leveling Guides (the normal one for all classes) – start from the very beginning and keep following it normally until you ding 70, even if you’re far ahead of my guide in levels and killing green stuff (green quests are awesome by the way!)
      You can even follow the outland guides until you finish them, that will get you level 71, possibly level 72 before going to Northrend, and that will make everything a breeze.

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        Ah i missed the DK page, tyAh i missed the DK page, ty =D

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    Nov 10, 2008 @ 19:58

    Hi! I have leveled twoHi! I have leveled two characters to 70 with your guides, big thanks for you, you would be rich man if you would put these on sale ^^

    Anyway I have a problem, I was planning to start from Borean Tundra because I really like that zone and I would like to check nexus out , I am on horde side. But here is the problem, your horde guide starts from Howling fjord so I tought that is it harder to level in howling fjord than in Borean tundra or did you just choose it to be first zone your are in because you like it? Thanks 🙂

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      Nov 10, 2008 @ 22:47

      It’s just more efficientIt’s just more efficient that way. I explained why in this [url=]blog article[/url].

      You don’t have to follow this order, but anyway you should do both Howling Fjord AND Borean Tundra, so why not do it in the more efficient order? 😉

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    Nov 12, 2008 @ 5:43

    Thank you Just like to say thanks on all the guides. ^^ keep it up :jawdrop:

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    Nov 12, 2008 @ 5:56

    is this the outland?I was following your 55-61 DK guide, and at the end you talk about your outland guide, which one is it? Is it just the 60-70s on this page?
    Great job, I’ve been following your guides for a while and their great!

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      Nov 12, 2008 @ 11:31

      Yes the outland guides areYes the outland guides are the 60-70…

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    Nov 13, 2008 @ 2:18

    Classes. First of all, I have to say I really love your guides. They’ve helped a lot, and I’m not sure what I’d do without them.
    But, I have a question. I’m curious as to what class(es) you’ve done this guide with, and which ones are fastest?
    Thanks 🙂

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      Nov 13, 2008 @ 2:30

      Hunter, Mage, Rogue, DruidHunter, Mage, Rogue, Druid (feral), Warrior, Shaman (enhancement), Priest (shadow). Basically did them with all classes besides Pal and warlock.

      Fastest was Hunter, unsurprisingly.

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    Nov 14, 2008 @ 10:06

    GuidesHi. I have used your Guides for quite some time now (the first one was way back about 2 years ago, before TBC). And I really need to say this – they are perfect. So detailed, making every step of the way easy and adorable and helping me get leveling organized but definetly not borings. Thanks again and keep it up!

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      Nov 14, 2008 @ 10:25

      Thank you And please spreadThank you 😉 And please spread the word, that’s all I ask!

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    Nov 14, 2008 @ 22:55

    Grizzy Hills GuideHey Jame,

    I’ve been using your guides for as long as I can remember, since there was only the alliance one. I was wondering when your Grizzly Hills guide would be up? I’m level 74 and haven’t started Dragonblight yet (used your guide, only did 1 Nexus and 1 UK run, 0 grinding) and don’t want to have to fend for myself. So any word would be nice.

    To end… you’re awesome and thanks for helping the WoW community for so long.


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      Nov 15, 2008 @ 2:34

      I’m not exactly sure yetI’m not exactly sure yet sadly. I’ve got a lot going on right now, things I had put aside to finish as much as I could before the release.

      And now I also have to level my characters up to grizzly hills before I can resume my work on them 😛 So all this is slowing me down.

      I’d say it’s gonna take me another week, I’ll try to make it happen faster, but no promises.

      Check the [url=]release dates[/url] and [url=]my blog[/url] regularly for updates.

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    Nov 15, 2008 @ 10:32

    BenevolenceYour guides are awesome, and the fact that you give them away shows true quality of character.

    Undoubtedly you should be enshrined to every hall of fame in the wow universe.

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      Nov 15, 2008 @ 21:59

      Rofl, now that’s quite aRofl, now that’s quite a huge compliment ^^

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    Nov 15, 2008 @ 12:27

    Just wanna say thanksHey Jame,

    Just wanna thank you for the time and effort you have put into these guides, I have leveled a undead warrior to 71 so far, using your guide since lvl 21, and have had no problems at all, great work and keep it up 😉


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    Nov 16, 2008 @ 10:12

    Awesome guide!Hey Jame, first off: Awesome guide! It’s way better than Joana’s wall of text guide etc.

    But sadly, i’ve already reached the end of 75 (well almost) and i was thinking if there were a zone or two that your guide weren’t covering i could level in while waiting for 76-80?

    Best regards Ace

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      Nov 16, 2008 @ 15:24

      My guide will cover everyMy guide will cover every zone, so don’t worry too much about it.

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      Nov 16, 2008 @ 15:56

      your super amazing guide (duh)so my first character i leveled alone, an orc shaman i got to 70 in EIGHTEEN days /played time
      then i heard about your guide… and i didnt start following it till 31 on my UD rogue, but magically that bad start + 2 professions to a reasonable lever, with this guide I’m currently 46 with 4 1/2 days /played time… thats incredible, and i got from 41 to 46 all yesterday
      thanks al ot Jame, honestly the best guide, ever.

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    Nov 16, 2008 @ 22:52

    Thanks!Absolutely awesome guide! I’m lvl 60 now (close to 61) with just about 6 days of /played time (and that’s with the quest npc’s, mobs, flight masters, and me being constantly killed during the zombie event + my short attention span lol). Now I’ve started working on my 2nd character (cause of the number of DK’s making efficient Outland questing nearly impossible right now) and am going to be using your guide again the moment I hit 21 🙂 For this character and every character after it lol
    I’ve also made sure to tell everyone in my guild and on my friends list about your guides.
    Thanks again!

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      Nov 16, 2008 @ 23:31

      Glad to hear that, pleaseGlad to hear that, please keep spreading the word 😉

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    Nov 17, 2008 @ 1:41

    awesome guides, and a quick question.Thnaks, your guides are awesome, but i have one question, I’m starting a priest and was wondering if I could use you guide if I spec holy? I know that you say at the beggining of every chapter to spec with what will do the highest damage, but I plan on pvping for a while when i hit the 9s, so is it still possible to use your guide or will it be too hard? thanks again for sucjh wonderful guides. 😕

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      Nov 17, 2008 @ 11:29

      Definitely possible. I’veDefinitely possible. I’ve heard numerous reports who said they followed my guide as holy and had no probs at all.

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        Nov 18, 2008 @ 16:24

        I confirmed, I followed themI confirmed, I followed them with a Holy priest without any problem, before the patch which converted +heal into +spell – doing most of my damages with my wand!

        It’s just slower – but I think you have guessed that too 🙂

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          Nov 19, 2008 @ 20:37

          I’ve used the guides as aI’ve used the guides as a resto druid with similar results. Currently specced a combo of resto and boomkin to level to 80, but I might go back to strait resto for the instance factor. It is a little slower but if you instance a lot its worth it!

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    Nov 17, 2008 @ 22:11

    Total TimeDo you have a ballpark figure for total /played from 1-60 with the new guide and new total xp required? What about 1-70. I’m considering jumping into WoW again but was curious what timeframe I’m looking at to make it to the new content at 70.

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      Nov 18, 2008 @ 8:04

      I’m guessing about 6 daysI’m guessing about 6 days /played (that’s without any rested bonus). Of course it also depends on your class, gear, playstyle, etc.

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    Nov 18, 2008 @ 15:28

    WOWJame your guide is awesome and its the only think that helped me get to level 75(thanks to raids also) and i am currently on your dragonblight guide:) is it possible that you will post the next part of your guide tomorrow or after tomorrow?i am not forcing or rushing you, but could you please tell me approxemtaly when the next part will be out:) tyvm and sorry if i am being rude or anything.

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      Nov 18, 2008 @ 20:09

      It’s gonna take longer thanIt’s gonna take longer than that I’m afraid. About a week, maybe less, maybe more. Really can’t estimate it well atm, I got too much going on.

      Check [url=]Release Dates[/url] often and you’ll know as soon as I know 😛

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    Nov 18, 2008 @ 18:37

    Absolutely Outstanding!Jame,

    I just found your guides with the release of WotLK thanks to and, I must say, they are fabulous. I’m just about through Dragonblight on my main, so I’m excited to hear that you’re working on guides for the rest of the zones. I’ll just start leveling another toon through Northrend while I wait.

    Once again, great job, and thank you.

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    Nov 18, 2008 @ 18:45

    Thanks for the guides Jame!Thanks for the guides Jame! Hit 70 just 4 days 6 hours /played 🙂

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      Nov 18, 2008 @ 20:10

      Nice score! And thanks forNice score! And thanks for the feedback 🙂

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    Nov 19, 2008 @ 13:14

    What will your next guide beWhat will your next guide be for wotlk after grizzly hills?

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      Nov 20, 2008 @ 1:24

      Scholazar basin.Scholazar basin.

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    Nov 19, 2008 @ 14:55

    Awesome job!Jame, I gotta say, you are a miracle! I’ve brought my shaman from 70 to 75 in just three days thanks mostly to your guides! Thanks so much!! The guides are absolutely fantastic!

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      Nov 20, 2008 @ 1:24

      Thank you for your feedback,Thank you for your feedback, and please [url=]spread the word[/url] 😉

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    Nov 19, 2008 @ 20:49

    ThanksHey Jame

    I just wanted to stop in and say Thank you so much for your amazing guide, I started it way back in January 08 and ran outta time, only made it to 61 and haven’t been able to get more yet but i am soon and plan on finishin it and lvling a new character, and Thanks for the WoTLK guides to, they will come in handy

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    Nov 20, 2008 @ 17:05

    Awesome :jawdrop: Leveled a DK to 70 (Dk and outland) And my mage to 78 (Fiord, Tundra and Dragon Guides) till yesterday, last two level in grizzly hills I felt lost even with leveling addons. Your work is superb, keep on it.

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      No worries, I won’t everNo worries, I won’t ever stop writing guides, as long as blizzard puts out new content 😉

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    Nov 21, 2008 @ 2:43

    Thank you!Just wanted to say thank you for your wonderful guides Jame!

    I had to take a long hiatus from WoW(about 2 years lol)and when I came back about 6 months ago, I found my friends had moved to another server and created characters on Horde side. Having to start from the ground up again I thought about looking up a leveling guide to speed things up. Some quick searching found either everything had to be paid for, or was free but horribly vague and still left much of the quest information up to me to figure out.

    Then I found your guides, and I am so very happy I did! You offer easier step-by-step and more in-depth questing information than any other guide out there… and offer it for free! Following Snowflake/Hosho’s beginner guides and your 21-70 guides, I managed to get my Mage and Warrior both to 70 in 7-9days /played time each!

    I’m currently following your Northrend guides and am thankful you’ve made them so quickly or else I’d probly have missed out on some hilariously funny quests. Such as the DEHTA quest where you put on a murloc suit. Best. Quest. Ever.

    Thank you again Jame!

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    Nov 23, 2008 @ 18:14

    75+Hey Jame!!

    When are the next leveling guides coming out beyond Dragonblight? Your guides are so helpfulllllll!

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    Nov 24, 2008 @ 3:58

    timei agree this guide is excellent in assuring i dont waste my time doing quests that wont help me much and take too much time, and yet i still dont know how people can go from level 1-70 in 7 days. How do they find the time to do that? I dont even always go up 1 lvl in a day and this is a problem cuz im getting wrath of the lich king in 2 weeks and my highest lvl character is lvl 37. Can someone give me some tips on how to use my time wisely to level up ATLEAST one level everyday to level 55? Thank you and by the way awesome guide. i used to go around doing every quest in a territory and wander aimlessly around trying to figure out wer to go, but with your guide it’s so much easier and quicker. Great Job!

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    Nov 24, 2008 @ 16:38

    Leveling RateJames,

    I first wanted to say thank you for all your efforts, you are a great asset to the WoW community.

    Now on to my question, in your “Optimized Quest Circuits” page, you state that you can achieve 620000 XP/hour are these numbers based on the Wotlk beta or are you getting these on patch 3.0.3? I am no where near those numbers (~200000/hr or 8-9hrs/lvl). I’m just wondering what I’m doing wrong.

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      Nov 24, 2008 @ 19:01

      Keep in mind that he didKeep in mind that he did that xp rate with a very good geared rogue on the beta, but I think that you can actually do better than 200k xp / hour. Maybe it is because of the overpopulation or you might took some time for level the professions? I think that anyone can aim to 400k xp/hour with some good sessions!

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        Nov 25, 2008 @ 1:27

        Exactly what BenhirExactly what Benhir said.

        On beta I was really all alone in Dragonblight when I did that circuit, I had no competition at all for the mobs, which speeds things up.

        The rogue was in full epics from BT/Sunwell, which helped too.

        However, on live I’m still staying in above 400K XP/hour most of the time and peaking at 500K sometimes. That’s with the hunter and with the mage (in quest greens).

        I think it has a lot to do with how you follow my guides: Are you on a PvP server? Do you play during peak times with lots of overcrowding? Do you have gathering skills?

        And also, if this is your fist time following my guide and doing those quests, it’s normal that you don’t do them as fast as me, since I know them pretty much by heart already.

        The 2nd time you’ll follow my guide, for your alts, you’ll see how much faster you’ll level 😉

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    Nov 24, 2008 @ 17:55

    Just want to say thanks forJust want to say thanks for the amazing guides. I have used them to level to 70 and now in WOTLK, and even though I didn’t get to use your Grizzly Hills and beyond guides, by attempting to emulate your methods I ended up being one of the first in my guild to ding 80 and would have easily been the first lock on my server had I not needed to work. As I was leveling i would check to see competitor locks levels and the fastest guy was only a level ahead of me and I hadn’t played the first 3 days.

    Tanks again for the amazing guides.

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      Nov 25, 2008 @ 1:30

      Quote:the fastest guy was[quote]the fastest guy was only a level ahead of me and I hadn’t played the first 3 days.[/quote]

      I think that speaks for itself as to how fast my guides can make you level in comparison to anything else, because I’m sure that guy was using something 😉

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    Nov 24, 2008 @ 19:17

    This guide Works!!makes leveling sooo much easier!!!
    Thnk you!!

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    Nov 25, 2008 @ 4:29

    AddonHey! Thanks for the great levelling guides, love’em!
    Have you ever thought of creating a Jame’s Levelling Guide Addon?
    It wouldn’t need to be anything flashy, just your guide uploaded into the game so it can be viewed more easily.
    Or, if you like Flashy, you could make it kind of like Quest helper, except that it tells you what to do according to your guide.

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      Nov 25, 2008 @ 13:16

      I had the same thought. AllI had the same thought. All that would be needed is a simple text box that just had all the guides and pictures uploaded. Nothing else, keep it simple.

      But I suppose you are going to want to finish off the other wotlk guides first though.

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        Nov 25, 2008 @ 14:45

        To Silverchief andTo Silverchief and tribe:

        Jame will first continue writing and complete his Northrend Guides. After that, or atleast that’s what I picked up from what he was saying, he’s going to make an in-game addon for his guides.

        The main problem is that he has so much work to do, writing his guides, leveling his own characters and of course RL! You should just frequently check the site on any news about the addon, or an ETA on when it will be released 🙂

        For those that don’t know what I mean by an in-game addon, it is meant to make the leveling process even faster. You won’t have to ALT+tab out of the game everytime you need read the next part. This will also eliminate the issue of being in Windowed Mode! 🙂


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          Nov 25, 2008 @ 17:33

          In game browseran in game wow browser has been released but iwont mind having a go of making a q helper type macro

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            Nov 28, 2008 @ 22:45

            Can you link me to this?Can you link me to this?

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    Nov 25, 2008 @ 12:57

    Way to go man..way to go.I’m not one to leave comments on others work. but jame man you did what many people have tried to do. your guide is extremly helpful. i have used your guide since 31. and i have been blown away time and time agian. just your little tips that do it. and after the dragonblight chapter. i went to grizzly hills. following you examples I have tried to streamline my quest. and i know have a higher respect for the work you do. All i have to really say is ……Jame thank you not only making these guide’s, but posting them free of charge so your fellow gamers may learn from your hard work. Again I thank you. keep up the good work.

    See you in game.
    And may the sword of thousand truths give you its blessing.

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      Déc 3, 2008 @ 0:27

      He may not get its blessing,He may not get its blessing, but if the tanks in his raid group got it, he can meet its identical twin, [url=]Slayer of the Lifeless[/url], it who was the one truly foretold by Salzman!

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        Gotta love the south parkGotta love the south park references 🙂

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    Nov 26, 2008 @ 9:47

    Thanks a lot!I never leveled faster than now, without missing anything. Your Guides are really awesome. I’m looking forward for your upcoming guides. I’m at Level 76.5 and still have some Quests to do in Dragonblight.

    Thank you very much!


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    Nov 26, 2008 @ 17:20

    Zone ProgressionJames,

    For the Horde side what will be the zone progression (to 80) you will be using for your guides? I have completed all of your WOTLK guides and want to move on blindy :(, but still want to follow your zone progression.


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      Nov 27, 2008 @ 0:50

      Grizzly Hills > Zul dark >Grizzly Hills > Zul drak > Scholazar Basin > Storm Peaks > Icecrown

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    Nov 27, 2008 @ 19:57

    1-10Okay,well anyway, im lvl 7 🙁 im new to the game and I was wondering is there a guide for 1-10 and 11-20? Like I said, Im new to the game and I hope you can help me with things to kil. BTW im a Blood Elf and a Dwarf.


    Go Wow U can contact me on Blackwing Lair or Blackwater Raiders on my accounts Bloddyelf Gertjaars Lichyinglol


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        Nov 27, 2008 @ 20:33

        tyThak You James.

        Go Wow U can contact me on Blackwing Lair or Blackwater Raiders on my accounts Blddyelf Gertjaars Lichyinglol


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    Nov 27, 2008 @ 21:02

    thank yougood job, when the next guides (lvl75+) plzzz? :p

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      Nov 27, 2008 @ 23:12

      Check the front page.Check the front page. Release dates are there.

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    Nov 27, 2008 @ 22:56

    Wondering… archievementsHiya Jame 🙂


    Are you planning on making a archievement guide for the Loremaster stuff? (atm I’m lv 80 and finishing the Shozalar basin quests to get the 75 quests complete. After that I haven’t even been in Icecrown, Stormpeaks and Crystalsong… i assume your guides will go from Grizzly Hills –> Zul’Dral –> Shozalar. Are you planning on making guides for the Loremaster title with the quests complete at Icecrown, Stormpeaks and Crystalsong? (and poss. others?)


    – Magekíd

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    Nov 29, 2008 @ 12:01

    Wintergrasp.I think it is worth mentioning that whenever your faction wins at Wintergrasp (PvP area of Northrend, even if you are on a PvE server you’ll be marked as PvP upon your entrance in the are) you will gain a buff that increase experience gained by 5% from all sources. That is a nice buff if mixed up with rested xp. 🙂

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      Déc 3, 2008 @ 0:18

      It’s also a good time..To do instances. You can start saving up for Heirloom items, by looting Stone Keeper’s Shards off of instance bosses.

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        Heirloom items. Yummy,Heirloom items. Yummy, twinky, yummy!

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    Nov 30, 2008 @ 2:30

    Good Guides[size=10]My only problem I find is that I sometimes get bored of a zone and want to switch. That’s also why I level slowly, I guess. Glad to see you keep these guides for free, blah blah blah.. Can’t wait for more from you, especially the in-game add-on. I’ll try to help this site however I can so these guides stay alive, since they’ve aided me, and so many other men and women who play WoW, to a great extent. /get off of soapbox pedestal.[/size]

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      Déc 2, 2008 @ 11:06

      I know what you mean byI know what you mean by getting bored with a zone.

      But yes it’s actually bad, because in general when you follow my guides, the best part is towards the end of the zone, when you finally turn in a bunch of quests at the same time 😛

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    Déc 2, 2008 @ 8:39

    Great guides dude.Love these guides trying to get my Deathknight to level 70 so i can start at Northend -)

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    Déc 2, 2008 @ 19:52

    Wondering?I’m lvl 65 i was wondering if i should start your guide 65-70 or will it be too hard to catch up?


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      Déc 4, 2008 @ 0:59

      No, it won’t be hard at all.No, it won’t be hard at all. Just go straight to Nagrand and ignore the quests I mention at the start, you’ll outlevel the guide anyway, since it was written prior to the xp curve change.

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    Déc 2, 2008 @ 21:46

    75-80?are you currently working on guides from 75-80?

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      Déc 3, 2008 @ 0:16

      Yes, he isRead the front page for the release date of his Grizzly Hills guide. Hopefully that also answered your question? 😛

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    Déc 3, 2008 @ 0:23

    I use your guidesI use your guides differently than most people, I assume, Jame. I use it as a guideline, as in, just using it to find quests/quest-hubs. I’m the kind of player who cannot stick to a certain way of doing things. While it’s slower, I find it more enjoyable, and overall, more chances to throw an instance in.

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    Déc 6, 2008 @ 21:50

    Kinda confused.Hey Jame, I used your guide to get one of my 70s up to 74, and I LOVE the guides. They are awesome!!! 🙂

    Anyways, I made a troll hunter a while back and got him to 40… Now I am sitting at 40 and looking at your 41-51 guide and I am so overwhelmed. Should I go and ding 41 first?? I already did all the Safari quests in STV a while back. Where should I be? Also a bunch of the quests you mentioned in the 41-51 guide that I should have in my Quest log are not there… I am stuck and would love some help….

    Other than that, keep it up bud!

    -Sboopy5170 (the confused)-

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      Déc 8, 2008 @ 0:04

      Just jump in the guideJust jump in the guide somewhere close to your level and in an area where you haven’t done all the quests.

      If you’re behind in levels, it’s realy no problem, you’ll catch up eventually, trust me, I’ve made the guides that way 😉

      If you’re ahead in levels, that’s great. Don’t skip anything unless the quests become grey to you.

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    Déc 7, 2008 @ 1:47

    FeedbackWell, what can I say? Once again, your Northrend guides have knocked me unconcious due to their excellence.

    I started out on my Paladin. Who had rested exp from 70-73. So that obviously gave a boost, aswell as the Wintergrasp Essence buff you get if your faction controls Wintergrasp.

    Other than that: I started out, at level 70 with 41 days played. I am now level 77, at 43.5 days played. And that was with RL interruptions (With me forgetting to log out) and random ingame stuff that didnt include leveling.
    Not to mention, I still have a good chunk of your Dragonblight guide to finish. Hopefully this will take me near, or to, level 78.

    So thats, 3 Zones I will have completed.

    Grizzly Hills should hopefully take me from 78-80.
    So, that’s four zones completed, and five zones left for cash.
    WUT???!?!?!? 0.0
    There’s 350 Quests total, according to the achievements..
    Multiply that by, what, 15? 5250.
    Plus all the drops and stuff, vendor loot, etc, I’d say 6000/7000 is waiting.

    So, not only is your Northrend guide a leveling guide, I guess it is also a gold making guide, too, in a sense.

    If you follow Jame’s guide with rested exp, you’ll be riding that mammoth in no time (:

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      Déc 8, 2008 @ 0:09

      Awesome Thanks for theAwesome 😉 Thanks for the feedback!

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      Déc 8, 2008 @ 3:46

      You forgot to mention questYou forgot to mention quest rewards. If there are no upgrades, you can get an additional 6-7g minimum from each quest!

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    Déc 9, 2008 @ 19:32

    Finishing Outland after hitting 70.I hit 70 after turning in the first couple quests at the safari in Nagrand. Then hit 71 after turning in the last quests at the safari in Nagrand. This was with full rested xp the whole time, also I ran one instance. I then went to blade edge mountains and netherstorm and finished both of them. I am at 72.66 now and I am debating whether to go to northrend of finish netherstorm/shadowmoon valley. I was browsing the northrend guilds and I am worried that some of the quests will be too low level for me if I finish outland. I have about a half a level of rested xp as of right now. Also thanks for the great guilds, I have used them since about lvl 30 (though I remember not being able to do any hillsbrad quests because of the insane amount of gankers on my server)

    Zebula (emerald dream server)

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      Déc 9, 2008 @ 20:47

      I think that followingI think that following jame’s guides is fine, no need to do SMV and the rest of Netherstorm. Being ahead of the guide is fine, but being too ahead means also some gray quests which are ineficcent 😛 I think you should go on with Nothrend guides and you will eventually ding 80 in Grizzly Hills (or even Dragonblight if you keep the rested+instance method). This way you’ll have 60% of Northrend quest worth a lot of money , you are lucky 🙂

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    Déc 10, 2008 @ 15:59

    Thanks ^_^Thanks to your guide (and a combination of heavy work hours and moving house giving me tons of rest exp) I hit 80 half way through Dragonblight and am looking forward to using the rest of your guides to grind gold and achievements 🙂

    What I’m wondering is – once you’ve finished your guides to 80 for both factions, what are you going to do? Any possibility of updating your outland guides for us achievement junkies? Or maybe a short guide pointing out some quests in each zone that are outside of the main quest hubs that are likely to be missed?

    Thanks again,
    Kelarik – 80 Tankadin (yes it’s totally possible to level prot), Bloodscalp-EU

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      Déc 10, 2008 @ 17:10

      It’s allIt’s all there:

      Feel free to leave suggestions 😉

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    Déc 11, 2008 @ 0:19

    Jame Thanks for the guides.Jame Thanks for the guides. Just a tip for people who don’t like alt tabbing there is an in game browser: check the comment below, it’s called playexpert.

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      Déc 11, 2008 @ 12:04

      Hmm, that’s interesting.Hmm, that’s interesting. I’ll try it and maybe recommend it 🙂

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        Déc 12, 2008 @ 11:51

        This can also be usedThis can also be used

        It has a couple of things intregrated into one, for example, xfire and browser.

        It’s good, but does need a few tweaks. Well worth having a look at too.

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          Déc 13, 2008 @ 1:09

          Tried both, I would not inTried both, I would not in ANY WAY suggest Rogue… Had it for 5 minutes, started up WoW, *BOOM* crashed….the next day my WoW password was changed, had to use password retreival system to get my account back.
          On the other hand PlayXpert is a very handy thing, that’s one I’d reccomend.

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            Déc 13, 2008 @ 11:23

            Ouch, sounds really bad,Ouch, sounds really bad, I’ll remove the link to rogue.

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              Déc 16, 2008 @ 0:14

              RogueI’m sorry if Rogue was bad I have a mac and I was not able to test it. I was recommended on so I though it would be safe.

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            Déc 14, 2008 @ 16:00

            Ya, Ya, I tried out Rogue yesterday and it crashed my whole computer. I haven’t had my account password changed but that is what I’m going to go do right now to be safe.

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    Déc 13, 2008 @ 9:23

    Wheres Grizzly Hills?Ahh ive been waiting for this forever and now its the day its suppose to be released and its not here … cries… hope it comes soon!

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      Déc 14, 2008 @ 9:32

      I know, totally!

      I said theI know, totally!

      I said the heck with it and just went ahead and did Grizzly Hills on my own. It was horrible, I actually had to think and figure stuff out on my own. lolz

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    Déc 13, 2008 @ 12:36

    grizzly hills guideAww!

    Was so exited that today the grizzly hills guide was released, but I cannot find it 🙁

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    Déc 15, 2008 @ 17:22

    window mode + printer friendlyIn addition to playing in window mode its really useful to look at the “Printer-friendly version”, because the guide will “stretch” over the whole screen and you have to scroll down less often 🙂
    I bet most of you had alread this idea, but whatever 😉


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    Déc 16, 2008 @ 16:26

    Guide updatesIs there no new guides past Dragonblight? Jame these guides are so wonderful I’m anxious to see the rest 😉 .

    Well keep up the hard work if you’re still working on it, I think I speak for many people when I say your guides are extremely helpful!


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      Déc 16, 2008 @ 19:20

      Now there is, I justNow there is, I just released my grizzly hills guide for the horde 😉

      For the next guides, check out my Release Dates:

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    Déc 17, 2008 @ 17:58

    Loremaster Achievement?Just curious, will following this guide also get us the Loremaster achievement?

    (I know you haven’t finished the 77-80 guide but im talking about in the future)

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      Déc 18, 2008 @ 0:37

      In the future yes, after myIn the future yes, after my next revamp.

      For now, I know that the zone quest achievements for all Northrend zones will be done.

      For Outland, my guides get you the zone quest achievement, with the exception of Nagrand (because of a missing quest line starting from SMV).

      For the old world zones, I’m not sure I haven’t tried, but it must be really close, as I’ve tried to include most quests everytime.

      Anyway, my next revamp will fix that.

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        Déc 19, 2008 @ 15:55

        btw, there decreasing thebtw, there decreasing the number of quest required for the old world zones as well coming next patch. Im currently leveling a mage and im almost to the point where i can start your guide, once i get to outlands ill let you know how many quest were done in kalimdor and eastern kingdoms. 🙂

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          Déc 19, 2008 @ 18:29

          That’s great news. And itThat’s great news. And it would be awesome if you’d let me know about your findings.

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        Déc 24, 2008 @ 4:24

        It’s kind of surprising howIt’s kind of surprising how far away one lands from the Loremaster achievements upon hitting 60. It only takes 700 or so quests to get to 60 generally, while Loremaster of the two old continents combined add up to 1250 quests. Of course, the problem with integrating them into a leveling guide (just old world, Outland and Northrend don’t share this problem) are the large number of quests that are colossal wastes of time and effort while leveling – quests that send you all the way around the world, for instance, and integrating them into one’s path on the way to 60 would add up to adding a few days /played to the time. Sadly, Loremaster works as the very opposite to “optimised quest circuits.”

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    Déc 17, 2008 @ 18:50

    Triple XP guide?I am curious if there are any plans to make a guide for triple XP players. I just recruited a friend of mine and we found ourselves searching for quests our level.

    Thanks, your guides are so helpful, all your efforts are much appreciated.


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      Déc 17, 2008 @ 19:37

      Recruit a friend =Recruit a friend = instance.

      ’nuff said 🙂

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    Déc 18, 2008 @ 19:03

    Your guide is awesome.I used your guide to level my warlock, and got him seventy pretty fast. So I decided to make a pally and see how fast I could get him to cap. I am at 3d 7hrs played time and level sixty. You and your guide are absolutely awesome.

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      Déc 18, 2008 @ 21:59

      Nice, glad to hear! ThankNice, glad to hear! Thank you for the feedback.

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        Mar 8, 2009 @ 19:45

        hinterlandsTheres a quest which you can get in Stranglethorn Vale, in booty bay inside the inn called ‘Whiskey Slim’s Lost Grog’ and i thought it would be a good idea getting that before going to hinterlands its a nice 6300 exp extra and you can turn in when you turn the escort quests in. =)

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          Agreed, added to the addonAgreed, added to the addon files! Should be in the next patch.

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    Déc 22, 2008 @ 7:58

    Thanks so muchI love your guides if i had never used them i would have never even been able to get to 70 🙂


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    Déc 27, 2008 @ 23:30

    Pretty good.Overall, pretty good. I definitely feel as if I’m being more efficient, even if it’s not the case (I don’t keep track of hp/hour, /played, stuff like that, so I have no numbers to compare this char to past chars).

    Just a few comments about the guide from my experience, so far (34).

    I’m 34 now, and have followed the guide verbatim from 21. Only once have I actually been within a thousand XP of the level when the guide says “you should be level X.” And in some cases, I am about a half a level behind where the guide says I should be. Right now is one of the most extreme, and this prompted me to post. I did the entire level 34 guide, and have approximately 25,000 xp left to ding (out of approximately 51,000).

    From 21, I’ve always made myself be at the level that the next part of said guide said I should be at, which generally involved about a fourth of a level grind after I completed the quests that particular section said to do. While I’m not killing everything in site, I’m surely not avoiding a fourth of a level of XP from mobs. If the guides assume that I should be killing 80-100 more mobs a level than I am, the guide should say so. I’m even doing extra quests, and am still considerably behind where the guide says I should be.

    As of 3.0.2, I think the guide, at least up through the 30’s, should be bulked up, simply from my experience. I hope the following levels don’t leave me with this deficiency after I’ve completed, verbatim, the quests as they are presented. I know I could keep going, but eventually I’m going to fall 3 or 4 levels behind, and I don’t want to be trying to kill mobs that are 4 levels higher than me to complete a quest.

    Just a note, and maybe my luck has just been phenomenal throughout this chars leveling experience, but I have to think that blizzard upped the drop rate of a lot of quest items that used to take forever to drop, probably because of the new quest acheivements. Some examples are Hecular’s Sword (within the first 10 kills, never got it within the first 25 the 5 or 6 times I’ve done it in the past), Hecular’s Rod (again, within the first few kills, always had to clear the entire cave out atleast once, if not twice to get it to drop in the past). And this is the case will all the rarish quest drops. They are all dropping considerably faster. As such, I’m getting less XP from grinding the mobs for the quest item (which makes it seem like there is an end), and being forced to grind simply to grind (which I flat out do not enjoy).

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      Déc 29, 2008 @ 15:22

      Yea, it’s that, the dropYea, it’s that, the drop rates on many quest items in the 20-40 bracket has been significantly upped.

      Don’t worry though, there are tons of extra circuits coming up in the following chapters of my guide and you’ll end up being far ahead of the recommended level, no matter what.

      Just keep going and thank you for your feedback. I’ll fix the exp discrepancies in my next revamp 🙂

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        Jan 14, 2009 @ 1:13

        I noticed the same thing! II noticed the same thing! I thought it was just my imagination or that I had done something wrong. Interesting!

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      Jan 3, 2009 @ 1:56

      Just a note to give you someJust a note to give you some hope…

      If you get caught up at around Level 56, it’s smooth sailing from there all the way to 70. I’m finishing the 65-70 guide having skipped a quest here and there, and done a few extra in Netherstorm (thank you, Quest Helper), at around level 71.6. I should be going into Borean Tundra at level 72, which’ll make it a *breeze*.

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    Jan 6, 2009 @ 3:26

    Help!For some reason I can’t view any of the guides on this site. I keep getting a message saying:

    ‘user warning: Unknown column ‘n.nid’ in ‘on clause’ query: SELECT DISTINCT(n.nid), n.title, n.uid, book.parent, book.weight, FROM node as n, book, users INNER JOIN node_access na ON na.nid = n.nid WHERE (na.grant_view >= 1 AND ((na.gid = 0 AND na.realm = ‘all’) OR (na.gid = 2 AND na.realm = ‘workflow_access’) OR (na.gid = 18569 AND na.realm = ‘workflow_access_owner’))) AND ( n.vid = book.vid AND n.status = 1 AND users.uid = n.uid ) ORDER BY book.weight, n.title in /home/wowpro/public_html/includes/ on line 174.’

    Anyone know of anyway to sort this?

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    Jan 6, 2009 @ 6:31

    Thanks Jame :DI started a rogue from “zero” on server(Ragnaros) I mean really zero no bags no money no nothing, but I got some luck with some stuff (a really nice guy Vacamaldita) gave me 3 16-slots bag, I have some experience leveling up (got 2 (now) 80s on Lighting Blade’s) but I wanted to try horde. Following the guide almost all the time in quests trough Azeroth and some in Outland I was able to reach these:
    375 Herbalism
    340~350 Enchanting
    Enough Gold to buy my Flying Mount (non-epic)
    Level 70 in only – 7d14h31m48s (it could be a few hours less if I was on a PVE Server and didn’t spend some time gathering herbs and pvping when bored =P)
    Well here’s a SS of it

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    Jan 7, 2009 @ 3:55

    cant findi cant seem to find the 20-80 horde guides i mean i see the 65 and up but i cant find the rest

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      Jan 7, 2009 @ 4:10

      Hmm, probably cause the listHmm, probably cause the list wasn’t sorted in the right order. But they are all there. Check the list again and tell me if you see the guides.

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    Jan 12, 2009 @ 0:13

    AddonsThe Addons you list are good, but here are a some others that I found helpful when following your guides.

    Customizable quest tracking addon.

    Configuration addon for MonkeyQuest

    This addon adds a panel to your quest log window that connects to WowHead (saves you from Alt-Tabbing and opening up a browser.

    Creates a separate pane in the quest log window so you don’t have to scroll to see all your quests or information about the selected quest.

    [url=]Titan Panel[/url]
    This has a TON of features, but its primary use is to de-clutter the UI by putting information like location, zone, XP, etc into a taskbar style window that you can customize.

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    Jan 13, 2009 @ 23:31

    Wow, all i can say is wowWell Jame’s, you are incredible, didn’t think it was possible but i was wrong. I have been playing WoW for about 3 years now. I found your guide for leveling. I needed a leveling guide so badly. Everyone was killing me leveling wise. I’m a person that kinda takes their time and enjoys what they have. But after 2 years i got sick of leveling and just wanted to get to 70 (yea now 80). So i got an orc shamman to level 21 and started into the guides. At first it was ok, but now i realize how incredible it all really is. I just wanted to say thank you for putting so much time and effort into these guides. Idk where i’d be without them. I’m now level 79 and half way to 80, lol and i just finished your grizzly hills guide. I oviously did a few instances here and there throughout it all. And now i’m breezing through all your guides. Which is awesome. So Jame’s you are incredible, thank you so much. Watertide of Vek’nilash
    Watertide the magnifico

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    Jan 20, 2009 @ 13:23

    Thanx and AddonsI love your guides, joo rock! 🙂 I’m new to WoW, relatively speaking, and I really like using your guides. They’re simple, well thought out, and they provide easy goals for me to smack down every night after work.

    The only message that I have about addons are Musicplayer and Ignoremore do a lot to keep things moving. Musicplayer plus your mp3 library is full of nothing but win. And Ignoremore means that tards no longer fill tradechan with Anal [insert generic name here] anymore. Lastly, if you have to use Ignoremore in your own guild more than twice, get a different guild.

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    Jan 21, 2009 @ 4:38

    Whoa games u finally got anWhoa games u finally got an addon version i remember when i asked for somtin like that! I just got back from WoW after a year of quiting cuz i got so bored of leveling and it became to hard(and i was only level 36) i decided to start all over on a new server with RL friends it was kinda hard to try and catch up to the level of ur guide on my character. anyway what guide do u suggest for 1-12 tauren leveling?

    an also how long in real life does it take u to level in


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      Jan 21, 2009 @ 4:45

      Please make an effort withPlease make an effort with your spelling in the future. Avoid “u” and stuff like that. And at least spell my name right 😛

      1-80 probably 9 days played nowadays, probably less with the addon once it’s complete.

      Check this list for our best leveling guides:

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    Jan 23, 2009 @ 0:12

    VisualsHello Jame
    Just wanted to say how much I enjoy your guides compared to some others, even the ones i’ve paid for!
    Yours are so much more detailed and in my opinion easier to follow with less (if any) errors.
    I especially like how you’ve incorporated pictures into the guides which make life SO much easier.
    A quest telling me to fins so many of “X” is ok but a picture of what “X” actually looks like helps me tremendously.
    I’m now levelling my 2nd character from 70-80 using your guides and 2nd time round it’s even easier.

    Thanks Jame 🙂

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      Jan 23, 2009 @ 0:34

      Glad you like them And waitGlad you like them 😉 And wait till you try the addon version, it’s even better and faster.

      Check the news posts on the front page for the leveling addon.

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      Jan 23, 2009 @ 0:36

      Glad you like them And waitGlad you like them 😉 And wait till you try the addon version, it’s even better and faster.

      Check the news posts on the front page for the leveling addon.

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    Jan 24, 2009 @ 1:18

    1-77 played.Jame,
    Your guides are a Gods gift!
    Recently I decided to re-roll server and see what kind of played time I could level a paladin in.
    Although I havn’t dinged 80 yet (I’m 77, just finished Grizzly Hills) and thought I’d show my played time for some feedback.

    It would have been a lot lower but I spent time playing the AH, AFK’ing and making small mistakes like forgetting to turn in a Q and having to run back.

    I don’t think it’s too bad for a first time horde player. Used the TourGuide version of your guide for 60-77 and I must say, it works extremely well.

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      Jan 24, 2009 @ 1:49

      Hey that’s awesome. So 1-77Hey that’s awesome. So 1-77 in only 7 days /played, even though you played the AH and goofed around a little?

      Considering it takes about 4 hours per level in Northrend while following my guide, it’s safe to assume one could hit level 80 under 8 days /played while following leveling addon from 1-80, without pushing it.

      Great news, thanks for your feedback!

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    Jan 24, 2009 @ 4:47

    Question about addonAm I reading it wrong? It seems as if the addon does not follow the website in progression?

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      Jan 24, 2009 @ 15:41

      Could you be more specific?Could you be more specific?

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    Jan 24, 2009 @ 8:19

    To JameI found your guides a little over 2 years ago and ever since you have made WOW more enjoyable then i could have alone. You provided me an in depth walkthrough of all the questing areas so i didn’t miss a beat. Thank you so much for the hard work and dedication you pour into all you guides, you are truly a gift.

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      Jan 24, 2009 @ 16:01

      Glad to hear

      Please tryGlad to hear 😉

      Please try the addon version as well, so far it looks [url=]very promising[/url].

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    Jan 24, 2009 @ 16:16

    About the guidHey jame these guides are amazing! you got me 70-77 in no time. do you have a date to when you will release the other guides?


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    Jan 26, 2009 @ 1:57

    If you followed the guide toIf you followed the guide to 77, you should at least be 78-79 by now (I was 79). Go to K3 (goblin town) in Storm Peaks, do the quest chains, that will take you to a bunch of quests in Brunnhildar which then will lead you to Dun Niffelem…that should make you 80…after that you can do the quests at Tunka’lo (Horde) and the Grom’arsh Crash Site…it’s an incredibly easy (and fun) zone to quest in. Make sure you have your epic flyer, you’ll be doing a lot of traveling.

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    Jan 26, 2009 @ 2:09

    When will 77-80 be released?I just reached 78 today, following your grizzly hills guide, now that I’m at the end, I don’t know what to do, should I try and level on my own to 80 or should I wait till you release the next version? How soon would I have to wait until your next version is released?

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    Fév 17, 2009 @ 2:35

    Jame your a god, and i have proof.Mr. Jame first off im sorry i havnt posted this earlier just totally forgot to do it.

    Pre Wotlk i did thorough research about the DK class and prepared like a madman to lvl as quick as possible.

    I can tell everyone your guides give everyone the edge they want especially when i was competively lvling against a guy who was lvling with his buddy on one char.

    Through determination, tears, no sleep, and JAME’S guide. I got 55-80 in 3 days. at around 4 o clock in the morning on the 17th of november. Server First 80 DK


    Anyways long story short. Jame’s your a guide genius and im seriously shocked at the time you put into these guides. AND ESPECIALLY FOR FREE.

    Thanks again. And im looking forward to more guides you put out.


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      Fév 17, 2009 @ 8:23

      Good job!

      … and yes,Good job! 🙂

      … and yes, Jame’s guides really are awesome (especially now when there’s an addon) 😛

      How many levels did you have to do on your own at the end btw?

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      Fév 17, 2009 @ 9:11

      Indeed, thanks for postingIndeed, thanks for posting 🙂 I know it makes me happy to see this, and they aren’t even my guides! 😉 I’m sure Jame loves all the support his users give him, thanks for letting him know how much you appreciate the guides!

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      Fév 17, 2009 @ 12:03

      Awesome, thank you forAwesome, thank you for posting it 😉

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    Fév 21, 2009 @ 10:43

    wow very good job , I’m surewow very good job ,
    I’m sure Jame loves all the support his users give him, thanks for letting him know how much you appreciate the guides!

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    Fév 22, 2009 @ 13:12

    Guides passed 77I just hit level 77 and i’m almost done with the grzzly hills guide and was just wondering if theres any guides for 77-80? Is it in the add-on or something? Thank you
    Love the guides you da man

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      Fév 22, 2009 @ 19:22

      Those guides aren’t out justThose guides aren’t out just yet. Jame’s list of what he is working on and the release dates can be found [url=]here[/url]. For now, he is concentrating on perfecting the addon before writing the later guides. However he does suggest an order to do the zones: After you finish Grizzley Hills, move on to Zul’Drak, then Sholazar, then Storm Peaks, and finally Icecrown. Honestly it should be pretty easy to ding 80, I was 80 *long* before I got to Icecrown. The quests in this expansion are also pretty good at leading you to the next area, you just won’t be quite as efficient without Jame’s expert advice!

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    Fév 25, 2009 @ 15:41

    In a word, INCREDIBLE :jawdrop:

    This is how I felt once I started using your guide. I’ve started leveling a priest following your Horde guide, and I must say, I’ve made it to 38 in less that 2 days playing time. My first thought before I began was “Yeah, it’s a free guide. It’s gonna suck”. It came recommended from a friend so I thought I would try it out. Man, I was in SHOCK! For some reason, I must have completely missed that you have an ADDON as well? I was alt tabbing this whole time and I didn’t have to? LOL! Incredible. Keep up the good work Jame!

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      Fév 26, 2009 @ 14:59

      Yep, we also have an addonYep, we also have an addon version now! It’s not finished but we’re working hard on it. You can already see the results on my blog and on Jiyambi’s blog . The /played speed is already impressive 🙂

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    Fév 27, 2009 @ 13:01

    The bestJame you are the best! Lemme tell you this…. I used to play WoW awhile ago… like pre burning crusade and Wotlk, and I had a Paladin I spent probably two months on to get to level 37…. lets face it <---NOOB .... Well in less than 3 weeks... I have gotten a toon from lvl 1 to lvl 52 and still leveling 2-3 times a day!! Thanks a ton!! You have no idea how STOKED I am to get to level 80 and raid with my friends for once...without using a private server =D

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    Mar 1, 2009 @ 17:22

    52-60Hey, I have been using the Add-on version of your guide and I’ve noticed there is no guides from 52-60. I don’t know if they’re not made yet or the update is just missing them. Just letting you know =] (Horde guide btw)

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      Mar 2, 2009 @ 16:24

      They are not written yet.They are not written yet.

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    Mar 1, 2009 @ 21:11

    TaurenLove the add on. Great guide ! I have been playing WoW for 3 or 4 yrs now and this has been a great help to my lvling. I did notice one thing missing in the Horde add on was a Tauren guide from 1 – 12. I am currently using Shinke’s Tauren 1 – 12 guide on my 2nd monitor so I don’t have to tab back and forth. But other than that, LOVE this add on

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      Mar 2, 2009 @ 0:17

      Yup, the addon version of myYup, the addon version of my guide is in the process 😉

      TzTz is working on it, as well as revising some quest routes, making leveling much more efficient. I can’t give you an exact date the guide will be in the addon, but it will be soon. 🙂

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    Mar 3, 2009 @ 19:41

    HinterlandsThe guide keeps trying to use Hinterlands as a zone and I think it needs to use “The Hinterlands” because it keeps saying it cannot find the zone.

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      Mar 3, 2009 @ 23:38

      This is a known issue due toThis is a known issue due to the naming of the guide, I think there are plans to fix it for the next release.

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    Mar 25, 2009 @ 18:56

    Sad PandaOn my Addon screen (the character one) it says there’s a Dependency missing. When I hover over the Guide it says Depencies: TourGuide. Any help?

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      Mar 26, 2009 @ 1:43

      I’m thinking you onlyI’m thinking you only downloaded the WoW-Pro guides, not the addon TourGuide that actually runs those guides. Go back to our download page and download TouGuide. You will also need Lightheaded and TomTom.

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        Mar 26, 2009 @ 21:20

        No, it wasn’t that. INo, it wasn’t that. I accidently saved the TourGuides addon to interface, corrected it now. Thanks anyway.

        P.S. I’ve used the Guide for a while and it’s absolutely brilliant, nice work.

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          Mar 27, 2009 @ 6:24

          Heh, well glad you figuredHeh, well glad you figured it out, sorry I wasn’t of help 🙂

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    Mar 26, 2009 @ 17:20

    TomTom Distance EstimatesI’m not sure what the problem is but, ever since I started on the lvl 21+ guides, the distance estimates given by the TomTom arrow have been off by a significant margin. For instance, I will be in the entry to the Ruins of Lordaeron, and the arrow will indicate that the UC FP is 3500+ yards away. Around the same time, I will be leaving UC to go to the Sepulcher for the first time and it indicates that, from the entry to the Ruins of Lordaeron, the Silverpine Forest is 3000 yards away and in the direction of Alterac or Dalaran. It would seem that the markers used for estimating distances have to be rechecked.

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      Mar 26, 2009 @ 19:31

      Do they point to the correctDo they point to the correct location?

      If not, it’s probably because someone forgot a |Z| zone tag. If they do point to the right place, well then something funny is going on but honestly distance estimates isn’t the most important thing about them, it’s whether they get you where you are supposed to go 😉

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    Mar 30, 2009 @ 9:54

    I have a problem with theI have a problem with the tourguide or tomtom addons, the guide tells me to go to splintertree but will point me in the direction of hillsbrad… been trying to fix it to no avail, anyone have a similer problem?

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      Mar 30, 2009 @ 17:36

      Please tell us the factionPlease tell us the faction and specifically which guide it is, so we can look into it.

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        Mar 31, 2009 @ 9:35

        It is the hordeIt is the horde 21-31

        Thanks for the quick reply

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          Mar 31, 2009 @ 19:56

          Wow, I feel stupid. OfWow, I feel stupid. Of course it’s Horde, you’re talking about Splintertree Post 😛

          I’ll look into it, most likely a |Z| zone tag just got left off.

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    Mar 30, 2009 @ 10:44

    Hmm although the addon didHmm although the addon did not direct me to splintertree properly, i continued with the guide, which led me to hillsbrad as well, when i was meant to go to zoram outpost. However, when giving directions to the quest giver, it gave the right direction. Then, when I was meant to collect wraithtail heads, it again headed towards hillsbrad. Upon collecting the 20 heads, the addon correctly lead me back to the quest giver…

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    Avr 11, 2009 @ 1:56

    thanks, ive moved on and itsthanks, ive moved on and its working really good now, thanks!

    Im finding the guide very helpful, appreciate what you guys have done 🙂

    One question, if Im a level higher than the guide because a friend ran me through SM, should I do the quests still or should I skip forward to my level? Im only one level higher though atm

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      Avr 11, 2009 @ 2:57

      Jame’s advice is always:Jame’s advice is always: keep with the guide unless you are killing mobs or doing quests that are [b]gray[/b]. Green quests/mobs still give plenty of XP and you can do them faster since you are higher level, so it makes up for them being a little lower.

      If you are only one level ahead, then definitely stick with the guide.

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    Avr 27, 2009 @ 20:08

    Thank you Jame and teamI’m a busy student in my first year of college (almost done). All my friends played WoW with more time to play, so they’re all level 80. Then I decided to take a break from WoW (3 months). Now i’m back into it but i can only play for a couple hours each day. This is where you come in ^_^.

    With only a couple hours each day (if i’m lucky) i absolutely LOVE 🙂 your guide. The bursts of circuits are absolutely perfect for me. I’m able to finish one or two circuits each time i get a chance to. You got me from level 21 – 77 in a time i could never dream of doing on my own. The game content that i’ve seen because of your guide is amazing. Thank you so much!

    Every chance I get, i let all my friends know about your guide. I tell people about you in general chat, trade chat, in random groups. I’m sure they love your guide too. Thanks to everyone who have been making this guide, you guys have made my WoW experience a million times better.

    I hope all your other projects work out great.

    P.S. To all the complainers…

    stfu, these guides have brought us 100% further than we’d be able to do on our own. If you say that’s B.S. then make your own guides. stop being such ungrateful spoiled little babies.

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      Avr 27, 2009 @ 20:17

      Thanks so much for the kindThanks so much for the kind post! 🙂

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      Avr 27, 2009 @ 20:18

      woopsalmost forgot

      currently level 77 (still got plenty of circuits in the dragonblight guide)

      thanks again ^_^

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    Avr 28, 2009 @ 8:43

    problems with guidehello jame
    Thanks for the guide justwondering, i am doing the level 40-41 badlands part of your guide(onlly just started using it) and teh quests inSTV have already been finished by me b4 i used the guide. Should i skip the quests and go to the nxt place and grind at the end if i do not reach the target level?

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      Avr 28, 2009 @ 9:20

      Yup, that’s probably theYup, that’s probably the best way to deal with it. If you can get a group for some instances, that could also help you catch up.

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        Avr 28, 2009 @ 11:46

        ThankyouThanks for the fast reply, i think i may have accidenly posted this 2 sorry.

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      Fév 9, 2010 @ 12:02

      Being behindBeing behind his guide is no problem at all! 😉 I levelled my human warrior from 40 to 62 with his guides, and i was a whole level behind the guide most of the time, because i had already done some of the quests, like u! 😀 but it didnt make it much harder! 😉 i am currently levelling a DK using his guide and i am a level in front of the guide on that! 😛 What i am trying to say is that u can follow Jame’s guides when u are a level in front or behind, but u might want to catch up with the guide before u go to Northrend! 😉

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    Avr 30, 2009 @ 14:20

    GoodworkHi jame, i realy enjoy your guide, making it easier since i dont want to waste time leveling anoter toon to 80. But i was wondering, im always half a lever lower than your guide or so. i guess its not the first time you hear this :p,and theres quest in ur guide that have level requierement so what should i, keep going or, grinding or anything else ?

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      Avr 30, 2009 @ 21:26

      Actually, usually people areActually, usually people are a bit ahead of the guide. The only time we usually hear that people are behind is if they have no rested XP and don’t run instances. If you find yourself behind, I would definitely suggest you try and find a group for an instance at your level. That usually will boost your XP enough to help you catch up, and also help you get some good gear!

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    Avr 30, 2009 @ 17:09

    Latest toon (full wotlk levelling)Hey, I’ve played a little paladin on TR lately and I quite liked the playstyle (oh, well, and the OPness 😉 ), and therefore I decided a few days ago, my next toon would be one of those. Nice thing is, i didn’t have one already, so I could enjoy the whole process of wotlk levelling and so I rolled a paladin and hit 80 at 4d 1h 30min /played (pvp server! 😉 ). (, if you want to see the final score screen^^, yes i have Heartstone keybinded xD )
    That is without much rested bonus (I didn’t specifically log out in the open world but the char was levelled over a two week span so not much time to accumulate rested exp ;)), and without taglevelling or friends instance rushing me or sth.
    Just doing the current hordelevelling guide. Belf start area > barrens and standart horde guide > outlands after western plaguelands (lvl 60) > northrend after nagrand (69.XX 🙁 ) > sholazar > zul’drak (used alliance version of tekkub’s guide there, as both zones are completly neutral anyways, sholazar first because well… you never know when Jame might release zul’drak^^)
    So whag made the time so nice?
    – Gear was pretty good: from level 15 onwards I used BOA Axe (enchanted with crusader) and the shoulders (not enchanted due to lazyness 😉 ), all other gear was only questrewards.
    – Exorzism infused paladins are beasts. A complete spike of CS, Judgement, Exorzism and divine storm is usually enough to drop the mob or at least get it in hammer range, if one is on CD, one melee hit will have a similar effect, just takes a tad longer. Regen is not needed at all due to judgements of the wise. Elite quests are easy as hell, just hit it till it dies (or kite with Judgement of Justice, if necessary (Breaking through final boss, Giants in howling fjord, …)
    – I have quite a bit of experience in speed levelling (2 80s, several 6x to 7x on both factions (now 3 80s 😉 ))

    Still that time is about 3-4 days faster than I thought I could possibly do, so I decided to share it with you 😉

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      Avr 30, 2009 @ 21:29

      That’s an awesome levelingThat’s an awesome leveling time, thanks for sharing it with us! Paladins are awesomely fun, aren’t they? I’m still working on mine, my progress got slowed down due to school and raiding >_<

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        Avr 30, 2009 @ 22:58

        I started my first week inI started my first week in the university this semester quite uhm… relaxed. And I don’t raid that much anymore (6 days/week during classic, but sorta burned out, and didn’t play much during TBC (just some pvp), and well… the current content is so easy i don’t really care about it 😉 ), so i had enough free time(4 days of paladin twinking in two weeks equals around 7h/d, which is rather much, huh? ^^)

        Concerning paladin: Yes, it is strangely fun to spike mobs/players in 5 to 10 seconds (:

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      Mai 3, 2009 @ 10:27

      Awesome post ^^

      I alsoAwesome post ^^

      I also think that your /played is somewhat a record, because it’s hell of a short time. You make me want to roll a paladin but sadly I haven’t a free slot on my server… so I need to delete one char 🙁
      Also, I like your UI and I’m wondering what kind of addon you’re using for player and target frames (looks better than xperl… at least for me 😉 ).
      Byee 🙂

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        Sep 17, 2009 @ 23:20

        Sorry for the long wait, iSorry for the long wait, i don’t happen to browse the wow pro comments that eagerly 😉
        The Unitframes was Kollektiv Unit frames, who happened to be annoyed with the code of the nurfed unit frames, so he wrote his own and applied the nurfed look (he didn’t update them for 3.2 though 🙁 )

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    Mai 7, 2009 @ 16:56

    Recruit a Friend?I have been using your guide for over two years now, first on Alliance and now on Horde, and have loved it. I recently recruited a friend to warcraft, and would love to recruit him to your guides as well, but I am curious as to how you suggest handling the fact that we will be leveling three times as fast. On top of the fast speed your guide provides, we could theoretically finish in just over a day playtime. Should we continue to follow the ‘go until grey’ rule, and then just skip ahead to our appropriate level once again? Or skip specific lower exp-rate sections? Or since there will always be two of us, skip to a bit ahead of our current level, skipping any areas that we hate?

    Also, I have been enjoying the addon addition of the guide recently, and while, compared to QuestHelper, it is significantly more accurate, there are a few points at which it has either seemed to cause a few glitches, or I have found the notes deficient or absent and have had to resort to using LightHeaded. Is there any way that we are able to assist you with this, or at modify it for our own personal benefit if you have more ‘help’ than you really need? I could see it being beneficial to many of us, for example, to somehow mark less beneficial quests, or quests that have no followups. But if there is anything in particular that I/we could be of assistance of as far as the addon goes, please tell. 🙂

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      Mai 7, 2009 @ 23:02

      For part 1 of your question:For part 1 of your question: Skipping to higher XP rate sections would be best, but I don’t really know which are the highest XP rate. Perhaps I will do a better job of recording this as I level and make a list somewhere, that could be helpful. For now, I recommend skipping any zones you dislike (as long as you don’t go above your level in the guide) – this should help you keep pace.

      For part 2: You can report glitches/bugs/missing information on our [url=]Bug Reporting page[/url]. For specific suggestions, you can just leave a comment pretty much anywhere, but [url=]the works in progress page[/url] would be the best place.

      Thanks for the great feedback and questions, hope you and your friend have a great time with the guides!

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    Mai 8, 2009 @ 3:52

    zangarmarshmy guide keeps saying to go to shat and port to org to talk to thrall for a quest, but i never got the quest and cant find it, the quest was the cenarion expedition

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      Juin 11, 2009 @ 14:32

      thatthat quest starts in thrallmar, from .. nazgrel or whatever (the big guy in the big building)

      its called “the assassin” (the first part of the chain)

      try looking around on wowhead for follow ups.

      it has nothing to do with cenarion expedition

      i’ve noticed a bug in the addon / guides

      sometimes it automatically ticks off parts of the guide even though you havnt done it.
      so you’ll be heading to places you shouldnt yet.
      i can remember this happend in a certain place during that salmophlange quest thingie, in the barrens. it completely skipped the part about killing the goblin who has the key..

      weird though. i hope that bug is a part of tourguide, and easily fixed (coz fixing X amount of guides can take alot of time :P)

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        Juin 11, 2009 @ 17:49

        Sometimes this happensSometimes this happens because of an error in our coding (I think the samophlange one was an example of this). However sometimes I truly cannot find the reason for the step skipping, after having checked the coding multiple times.

        If you discover any specific instances of this happening, please post here with the details and we’ll look into it. Thanks 🙂

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          Août 7, 2009 @ 1:48

          I have actually found thisI have actually found this to happen alot in the Dwarve/Gnome leveling guide. I am currently leveling both a Dwarve hunter and a Gnome warlock and there have been several steps (in the 6-8 level area) where quests tick off and jump ahead. Also I find that a majority of quests and steps in the 1-6 level range have to be ticked manually to continue.

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    Mai 18, 2009 @ 16:01

    Losing my mind…
    Ok, so when I leveled my DK to 80 I used a written guide for ZulDrak. I cant find it anywhere now. AM I losing my mind or was it another site? I have only used this site since WotLK release.

    DKs rule…others drool

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      Mai 18, 2009 @ 16:34

      Must have been somewhereMust have been somewhere else, because we definitely have no Zul’Drak guide here 😉

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        Mai 18, 2009 @ 18:52

        Tourguide comes with someTourguide comes with some guides already on it, it was probably one of those. It should still be there … somewhere.

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      Juin 13, 2009 @ 13:24

      Probably you have used ZygorProbably you have used Zygor ZD guide or something other. I’ve no memories of a ZD guide here on Wowpro, so you must probably remember wrong 😀

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        Juin 29, 2009 @ 0:19

        zd guide has the zone guides for all of the other zones except IC. jame’s guides are much better but if you want to cook off the qwests for the achievements in the other zones this site has the guides. like i said they are alright but this site’s (jame’s) guides are much easier to follow imo.

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    Juin 14, 2009 @ 13:03

    i downloaded and put thei downloaded and put the addons in the addons folder but there is still no button in the character creation screen. can u help me?

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    Juin 18, 2009 @ 23:09

    Love these guidesI love these guides i have got like 7 80s using these guides

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    Juin 23, 2009 @ 23:32

    pricelessThese guides makes getting lvls one of the easiest and fastest things in WoW and the addon is just flat out godly of all of the quest tracker addons i have used it is by farthe best.

    Last Lovesong

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    Juil 8, 2009 @ 21:15

    New guidesI hope you’ll have some new guides soon! I’ve levelled my hunter from 21 all the way to 75 so far with your guides, and I don’t want to have to use some lesser guide or solo it to get the rest. I couldn’t come close to the speed I’ve had with your guide any other way.

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    Juil 10, 2009 @ 4:29

    My DKHey Jame, my DK is currently level 76 and I am 50% through your Dragonblight guide. I was thinking of going somewhere where there is a lot of Saronite ore instead of Cobalt ore because I want to level my mining and blacksmithing at the same time as leveling and also make myself tanking and dps sets. What level would you recommend I go, where and when (Eg, after all your guides, after Dragonblight etc.)

    PS. I love your guides.

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      Juil 10, 2009 @ 8:50

      Well, not being Jame I can’tWell, not being Jame I can’t give you the best answer 😉 But I can tell you this: There is no Saronite in the areas that Jame has guides for currently. If you want to skip ahead to Icecrown or Stormpeaks, go ahead – do what makes the most sense for your character (Also, Icecrown quests are super fun!). You may not level as efficiently without the guides but you’ll be getting an important resource for yourself as you go. You can always come back and go through the guides at level 80 to make great cash from the quests (and work towards achievements).

      Hope that help, at least a little!

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        Juil 11, 2009 @ 2:45

        ThanksThanks Jiyambi, I’ll go to Icecrown then go back to grizzly hills for the guide 😛 Besides I’m level 77 now and still on the Dragonblight guide.

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    Juil 14, 2009 @ 6:50

    I pat thee on the backJame, I hope you realize, deep down, how much better you’ve made many peoples WoW experiences. Keep kickin’ ass.

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    Juil 22, 2009 @ 2:43

    Thank You from HuguI am a new player with a 73 druid on Ysera. I fumbled around even with Questhelper and your guides have made a huge difference in getting the leveling process moving forward in a smooth process. I want to thank you for all your hard work and kudoos to your support in the Wow Community.

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    Août 5, 2009 @ 13:24

    Noob experienceJame – yo’re a star.

    My first character was Horde undead rogue and he hit lvl 80 this week.

    I used the Northrend guides from level 70 upwards. I always had rest experience (i only play 2-3 hrs a night), did very few group quests/dungeons, did plenty of the dailies in GH (especially those around the ships – 80k XP for 10 mins work) and finally ran out of guide just after reaching lvl 78. I moved to SB and did the Nessingway quests and then moved to Icecrown and dinged 80 not long after doing the quests from the airship. Lighthearted is a great benefit for questing first timers.

    I still have massive areas of Northrend to explore but it will be so much easier as a lvl 80.

    The tips i can try and pass on as regards gold making are:
    Play the AH – get Auctioneer (but dont always trust it) let it scan the AH over a couple of weeks to get an idea of prices, create yourself a banker (i got mine to lvl 20 so he could DE lots of stuff) and log him at the start and end of your play session. Concentrate on trade goods – weapons/armor etc do not always sell quickly. Do not get greedy – buy at less than 40% of market value (less than 20% ideally – there is enought to make it worthwhile) and do not try to sell at more than 80% (unless current availability dictates otherwise). By doing this i have been able to fund new equipment as i levelled – including mounts.

    Thanks again – RW

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    Août 6, 2009 @ 10:49

    Jame. Best. Guide. Ever.Jame. Best. Guide. Ever. I’ve used it religiously before, but you just outdid yourself by adding the in-game addon. My only question is why you haven’t added it to Curse yet, but either way, awesome job making the WoW experience even better.

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      Août 6, 2009 @ 21:01

      Thanks for the niceThanks for the nice feedback! [url=]The FAQ explains why we haven’t (and won’t) add this to Curse or other external sites[/url].

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    Août 6, 2009 @ 15:30

    20% more exp from Account Bound itemsHow should I know which quests to skip when I got this?

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      Août 6, 2009 @ 21:02

      I believe someone is workingI believe someone is working on a guide for this, but at the moment we don’t have one. Just skip quests you don’t like or ones that are taking a long time, and skip ahead if quests turn gray.

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    Août 10, 2009 @ 16:56

    Leveling guide changed?Has the horde leveling guide changed? The guide i had before, which i downloaded a week ago, has changed and when i just downloaded it again. I clicked the same link as before. Is the old one still around?

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      Août 10, 2009 @ 19:12

      The only thing that may haveThe only thing that may have changed is an increase number of coordinates or clarity in objectives. Make sure you are using guides that say “WoW-Pro” in the title, otherwise you’re using the default tour guide guides, not ours.

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    Août 24, 2009 @ 18:04

    Battlegrounds instead of grindingI found usefull and fun, to go into battlegrounds instead of grinding if caught behind exp.wise since patch 3.2 modifications to BGs. Maybe you could recomend this in your guides.


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      Août 24, 2009 @ 22:39

      Very good point! I supposeVery good point! I suppose it’s a [i]type[/i] of grinding, but it might want to be mentioned specifically. Thanks for the suggestion!

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        Août 27, 2009 @ 18:47

        Another perkI found that often when coming out of a BG, you are filled with buffs from other players, very usefull while you continue to quest.

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    Sep 26, 2009 @ 17:35

    Jame’s Guide and AddonI just wanted to say thanks 🙂 I have a few 80’s already and always found I was stumbling through most of it haphazardly so when I went horde I was even more lost. This guide is FANTASTIC and the addon is the most simple thing I’ve yet to encounter. Thank you so much for making the game more enjoyable and lowering the frustration level of always tabbing out.

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    Oct 20, 2009 @ 7:33

    HelpSorry i know this probely is not the correct place to post this and feel free to delete/remove this.

    I have followed all the guides as my horde druid up to level 71, but due to a long due hosp viste when i reloaded world of warcraft i have no idea what section of the guide i am up 2!

    Any help that anyone can give me will be most gratefully received.

    Top notch guides.

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    Nov 2, 2009 @ 15:52

    New guidesHi Jame,

    I really enjoyed your guides.

    Will you make any for lvl 77+? I really need those to lvl a bit and make alot of money.

    Thanks in advance, MtR

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      Nov 5, 2009 @ 15:06

      Jame is a bit busy with realJame is a bit busy with real life matters, and sadly, I don’t think these zones will come as I think jame will be focusing on The Cataclysm expansion.

      But Scoot already wrote some nice guides ( I know atleast for the horde ) to a few of the zones. You can find them here.

      As for the Gold, you might wanna check out The WoW Millionaire posts. Or the more indepth one; WoW-Pro Gold Making Guide.

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    Nov 4, 2009 @ 4:02

    Storm PeaksI havn’t quite gotten to the Icecrown area as such yet but noticed there were no guides listed for storm peaks? I know most people are leveled by that point but it’s a great area and thought I would at least ask if there were any thoughts to adding a section for it.
    Thanks 🙂

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      Nov 4, 2009 @ 11:14

      Jame has been away from hisJame has been away from his guides for some time now. I know he originally planned to write guides for each zone of Northrend, but it is likely that, if and when he returns, he will be concentrating on Cataclysm content. So these guides may never get written by him. However there are a few great guide writers here on WoW-Pro who are trying to fill in the gaps in these guides.

      As yet I don’t think there is a Storm Peaks guide, however 🙁

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        Nov 4, 2009 @ 12:05

        The original leveling guidesThe original leveling guides in Tourguide contain a decent Storm Peaks guide. It also contains a Sholazar Basin & Icecrown guide which are pretty decent. Maybe those can help you!

        I seem to remember that someone on wow-pro added or posted a link to his/her Storm Peaks guide some time ago. Could be wrong though!

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        Nov 4, 2009 @ 19:57

        I’ve written a Storm PeaksI’ve written a Storm Peaks (Horde) guide for the addon if you want to get it. You can find a link to it [url=]here[/url]. As far as a paper version goes, I do have an organized list of the quests that I wrote my guide from. It’s not really a guide (and way below Jame’s quality or I would have posted it here), but if you would like it, send me a PM and I’ll get it to you.


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    Nov 15, 2009 @ 3:34

    Need some helpTo start off, i love your guides Jame. They really do help me through a lot. But i went from about 50-71 without using it, and now ive decided to use them again. Ive seen other people ask this, and you say to just go to where your level is, you’ll catch up. Im currently trying to catch up with your howling fjord guide, but ive done all quests that I should be doing at 71. Any help please?

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      Nov 16, 2009 @ 14:34

      Just keep going. Do anyJust keep going. Do any quests in Howling Fjord that you haven’t done yet. If you keep following the guides and do all of the quests in all of the zones you will be 80 (or close) when you’re finished with Grizzly Hills.

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    Déc 21, 2009 @ 20:58

    new HordeHey Jame, I will be switching to Horde today and I’m currently level 51. Night Elf Hunter. I will be switching to an Orc Hunter, but I don’t know where to start on the horde guides, so can you recommend me where to start ?

    Thanks for the guides btw, their awesome

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      Fév 20, 2010 @ 10:24

      Reply to new HordeHey iceyc0ld, im not James, but i suggest u start at 50 and whenever it says u need to turn in a quest which James has put in the Level 40-50 Horde guide, just ignore that if u haven’t got the quest. Good luck, hope this helped

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    Avr 12, 2010 @ 23:48

    I tried your addon JamesI tried your addon James thought it was great and I might want to do a comparison of it on my own site check out our comparisons page of listed premium leveling addons..

    My Links:

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      Avr 13, 2010 @ 2:23

      While more publicity isWhile more publicity is always good, you might want to wait to do any write up for us since we have a completely revamped addon guide on the way! It should be complete in time for cataclysm.

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        Juin 22, 2010 @ 1:33

        I can hardly wait for thisI can hardly wait for this guide. I have used your original guide several times and figuring out new and faster ways to level always makes me happy.

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    Avr 18, 2010 @ 12:11

    guide of awesomeness :Dthanks for the guide, james! i got my blood elf to 65 in about 5 days, compared to how long it took my mage and druid, thats a major improvement 🙂

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    Mai 9, 2010 @ 15:31

    Alliance Storm Peaks Addon Guide CompletedI have completed/tested and posted a Storm Peaks guide for Alliance.

    I would appreciate feedback.

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    Mai 12, 2010 @ 3:12

    Incorrect cordsI am going through the new guide for the horde and have noticed quite a few things not working the same as the old one. Some steps seem ‘skipped’ i.e. hearth to ______. Also, quite a few different steps have the posted cords way off from where they should be. One i remember is for the quest ‘Further Instructions’ i needed to turn it in at Rachet and it gave Camp T cords. No QH installed, Have TomTom, the leveling guide, and lightheaded. Please help.

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      Mai 12, 2010 @ 4:20

      Unfortunately, the versionUnfortunately, the version of the leveling guide you are using is no longer being supported. We are in transit to a new leveling guide fully coded by WoW-Pro members. It’s in it’s baby alpha stages right now and I won’t recommend it to you yet since it probably has about an equal number of things not working, but soon it will be available to the general WoW-Pro public and should be a big improvement on the old guide 🙂

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        Mai 12, 2010 @ 9:55

        the version?I used to have the one where the horde and alliance where separate, now it seems like there was a ‘new’ one that combines them. Am I correct in thinking that the one on the site now that says updated for 3.3 is already old? I wish that I didn’t delete the first version that I had, the one separate of tourguide. Is there a way to get that one back? How soon until the new guide is fully coded, any ETA?

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          Mai 12, 2010 @ 10:55

          Hi Drubin.

          I wish I couldHi Drubin.

          I wish I could give you more answers regarding the “old” addon (the one either using directly or heavily based on Tour Guide). However, I hadn’t been involved in that addon’s development and support for quite some time prior to it being discontinued. So I can’t really help you out there 🙁

          As far as the new addon, it’s still pretty rough but I would expect a more open beta type version available within a month. We hope to have a polished, finished product before Cataclysm hits, but most people project that for late summer or fall so that’s a long way off. Regardless, we should have something use-able in a month, at most two.

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    Juil 4, 2010 @ 20:37

    What can I expect? I have full heirloom gear and doing only instances from 15 lvl on will take me 3 days played time to reach lvl 60.

    If I follow this guide can I expect better result ( also with heirloom items )? 🙂

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      Juil 4, 2010 @ 22:47

      I think that really depends.I think that really depends. At the moment the guides are not optimized for heirloom leveling.

      What I do is simply hop into the guide whenever I get bored with instances, and vice versa. It may not be quite as fast as straight up instance grinding, but it’s more enjoyable for me.

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      Sep 13, 2010 @ 16:38

      Well, it takes me just aWell, it takes me just a little above 3 days to go from 1 to 80 by doing nothing but solo questing with heirlooms. (between 1.5 and 2 days for level 60). I’m pretty sure though, that I am amongst the fastest solo levelers out there (as far as I know, nobody has challenged my old time (, which I have undercut by 6 or 7 hours by now (: )

      So I guess, you’ll have to try for yourself. If speed leveling is your cup of tea, you’ll certainly see better times from solo questing… if not: just spamming dungeons has become pretty competive, so I suggest you’ll just do what seems most appealing to you for now
      Note: jumping in and out the guide becomes a lot easier when you hit the burning crusade content. Simply doing one zone and then the next with a generous level range is pretty nice. (In the old world you gotta stay close to the recommended level since otherwise there’ll be some grey quests to you / some that are of annoying difficulty and quite a few quests require you to visit a different zone, which is fine if you want to do it anyways, but if you didn’t want to is probably a waste of time. BC / wotlk content is far more streamlined. Pick a zone, and you can simply quest in it, or stop it halfway through and still be able to progress to the next one without skipping a single quest in that one (should you chose to that is… Hellfire penisula is probably fair game till level 65 or sth 😀 )
      Pretty stupid design, if you ask me… From bc content onwards quest rewards are always there, and you get pretty decent gear anyways, while my warlock for example replaced his green level 20 pants no earlier then level 60. Plus by level 60 all classes are pretty fast destroyers of mobs anyways (yay for exciting ultimate talents at the bottom of the talent tree):x
      But whatever… NOW you can comfortably run dungeons without figuring out which parts of the zone you can safely skip without leaving out pre quests for later 😡

      Uhm… after rereading i got to say this comes off a lot harsher then intended. The old world quests are pretty cool, too. And it is entirely possible to run a few dungeons here and there if one feels like it (I tried it, it works! 😀 ).

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    Juil 14, 2010 @ 23:27

    AwesomeHey there! This guide owns it makes lvling funner but pls make there be two paths in certain areas where u can choose a zone to do a quest circuit In or do an alternate one in another zone. Then u don’t have to suffer in a zone u hate! :jawdrop: exept then I wouldn’t have went to desolace and have you shown me that tower with the argent Dawn guy, who would’ve known one if azeroths most beautiful locations Is in desolace?

    Thrall owns. Cairne owns. Vol’jin owns. Slyvannas owns. Garrosh owns… Joke he’s gay. The belf guy… Who cares bout him?

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    Août 16, 2010 @ 9:51

    Love these guides :sick: I love these guides i have got like 7 80s using these guides.

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    Nov 11, 2010 @ 22:10

    THANKS!I can finally enjoy soloing through WoW and make excellent progress doing so! Your guide is what the key to enjoying this game and not feeling like your stuck. 😀

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    Nov 14, 2010 @ 14:40

    Sorry but I can’t find whereSorry but I can’t find where to click to have the guide in itself ? 🙂

    Help please 🙂

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      Nov 14, 2010 @ 15:10

      Right now, the site is havingRight now, the site is having some growing pains. Use the search function in the upper right to find the actual guides – try “Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide” and you should get a list of them.

      Sorry! We’re doing our best to fix it ASAP!

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    Nov 14, 2010 @ 15:45

    Can’t find the guide?Hallo

    I can’t find your guide, can you give me a link or help?

    Thanks for your really good work!

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      Nov 14, 2010 @ 16:07

      Right now, the site is havingRight now, the site is having some growing pains. Use the search function in the upper right to find the actual guides – try “Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide” and you should get a list of them.

      Sorry! We’re doing our best to fix it ASAP!

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    Nov 14, 2010 @ 18:50

    Can’t find the leveling guide.Hi there. I can’t find the Horde Guide by james either.
    I’ve tried searching for it, but the only result, even if I select the two mains results is this page :S

    Thanks guys.

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      Nov 14, 2010 @ 20:50

      That’s very strange. When IThat’s very strange. When I search “Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide”, all of his guides show on the search result.

      Unfortunately the guide categories are very broken right now and I can’t really give you a link with all of his guides on them – we’re working to fix that ASAP.

      For now, let me know what level range you need and I’ll find it for you and link it.

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        Nov 14, 2010 @ 21:09

        Leveling guides Could use the horde 70-80 Dragonblight , Grizzly hills ,Zul”drak , sholazar Basin & Icecrown .

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          Nov 15, 2010 @ 9:34

          James Horde guides should nowJames Horde guides should now all be listed in the above post. Hope that helps.

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    Nov 15, 2010 @ 3:07

    Some LinksHello all,

    Since this site has helped me greatly troughout many years, let me try to return the favor.

    I’ll put some links to the Horde levelling guide in this post, I hope this tread is the right one,I chose it because everyone seems to end up here.

    Well here we go.

    This is all that I could find (in 20 min.)I’m not going to put other guide links in this post, becouse i feel this one is way too long already.

    Hope it helps in some way,


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      Nov 15, 2010 @ 9:26

      Thanks very much! HopefullyThanks very much! Hopefully we’ll get the normal navigation system restored ASAP!

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    Mar 15, 2011 @ 9:05

    Horde leveling and dailies guideI was having some trouble finding a good horde lvling guide till i came across this horde leveling and dalies guide . I took a risk and purchased it and it really paid off. Its a very easy to understand horde leveling and dalies guide. I would recomend u think about getting this guide as it has worked wonders for me and helped improve my gaming experience. >

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      Mar 16, 2011 @ 1:07

      Really?? Seriously?? Zygor’sReally?? Seriously?? Zygor’s guide the cheapest…..urm $60 vs ours $0. I think it worked wonders for you because you’re being paid to say that.

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        Mar 17, 2011 @ 7:05

        A question?What is the difference besides price from Zygor’s guide and your guides? 

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    Mar 17, 2011 @ 13:01

    I have used both guides, theI have used both guides, the main difference i see between the two is what zygors guide calls dynamic leveling (or something), which basically means the guide checks what level you are, checks the level of the quest, if its a chain that would result in quests your level, etc and then decides whether its worth you taking or skipping the quests.  Whilst good in theory, there have been a few times that it has cocked up and skipped quests that are vital for other quests, or sent me all round the houses to get 1 quest that wasnt really worth it or i was unable to get as i skipped a prequest.The long and short of it is, both guides are VERY good, I have used Wow-Pro’s guides for a long time and have recommended them to several friends.  If you have the money to spare, give Zygors a go, but there isnt a HUGE difference, and personally I would rather save the money and get something that does the same job.. but for free. This is obv a ‘zygor review’ but hope you leave this post here as everyone is entitled to know what is out there (Plus.. i still say yours is better as its free 😀 )

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      Mar 21, 2011 @ 10:40

      Ty.  Your post was veryTy.  Your post was very helpful.

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    Juil 7, 2011 @ 13:25

    Is leveling guides effective anymore?Me and my brother purchased Cataclysm a few months back and we played for about 2 months and then we quit, (not enough time to play). But my question is whether these leveling guides is effective anymore? I mean Blizzard have made it much more easier to do quests, its almost like they built in a leveling guide in the game.I remembered a few years back where leveling guides such as Dugi’s, and even the very popular at the time Joana’s were very effective and made a huge difference in leveling time. Is the difference really that big nowadays? 

    Note: References to were edited out by LM.

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