WoW-Pro Leveling Addon – Jame’s Leveling Guide TourGuide style


New version updated to 3.3

Related links:

WoW-Pro Leveling Addon: An In-Game Addon based on Jame’s Leveling Guide


  1. Installation
  2. Using the Addon
  3. Supplementary Addons
  4. Guide List
  5. Known Issues
  6. Contributing


Download and install the following Addons

  • WoW-Pro Leveling Addon – The base of the addon.
  • TomTom – Handles coordinates (It’s that arrow which points you to where you need to go). If you have Cartographer, you don’t need this, since Cartographer has it’s own arrow.
  • Lightheaded – Makes TomTom even better, make sure to install this addon or you won’t always get a TomTom arrow to show you the way.
  • WARNING: If you have QuestHelper installed, you should disable it, or at least disable the TomTom arrow option in Questhelper, or it will conflict with our addon and give you wrong directions.

If you are not familiar with the installation of addons, it can be done as follows:

  1. Download and unzip the addon files.
  2. Navigate to the World of Warcraft directory
    • Windows XP: C:\\Program Files\World of Warcraft
    • Windows Vista: C:\\Users\Public\Games\World of Warcraft
  3. Open the “Interface” folder, then the “Addons” folder inside it.
  4. Copy and paste the “WoW-Pro”, “TomTom” and “Lightheaded” folders into the World of Warcraft/Interface/Addons directory.

You can check in-game if you’ve installed it correctly; when you go to the character selection screen, on the bottom left corner of the screen is a button called “Addons”. Click that, then scroll down and look for Lightheaded, TomTom and WoW-Pro (it’s in alphabetical order). Make sure they’re

It should look like this:

Once in game, you should see the TourGuide bar under your minimap:

If this is a new character you just created, the correct guide should already be selected automatically.

If this is not a new character, click the TourGuide bar, a window will pop-up with a list of guides sorted by zones and level ranges:

Pick a guide close to your level and in a zone where you haven’t done all the quests.

There you go, just follow the addon!

Using the Addon

Following a Guide
For the most part, the guide is easy to follow. A phrase will appear on the TourGuide bar accompanied by an icon. The icon meanings are as follows:

This ingame help menu can be accessed by heading to the menu, then selecting “Interface”, then “Addons” (up near the top), then expanding (click the + button) “Tour Guide” then selecting “Help” (you can see the “Addons” button and the “Help” part to the left of the screenshot)

Use Item Button
If relevant (for example, the quest Gruesome, But Necessary where you have to use the item on the mob’s corpses), a small box will appear. It will have the graphic of the item to use for the quest. You can move it by left-clicking
and dragging. Left-click on the box to use the item.

In addition, there are comments on most objectives that can be accessed by mousing over the TourGuide bar. I’ve entered them into most objectives; except, for the most part, Accept objectives and Turn-in Objectives, though I do list where each turnin block is on the first objective of the group.
It’s a good idea to be checking the TourGuide bar before you do each objective. I’m planning in future to add an indicator to the TourGuide bar so users will know if an important comment is present for an objective.

Note Objectives
Note objectives come in two types; auto-completing and non-auto completing. The auto-completing notes should be most of them. However, some will not auto-complete (and indeed are not intended to, meaning that you only click them after you know what you
should do).

These non-auto completing notes should come in three flavours: “Repair, restock and vendor junk” (a general reminder when in town and beginning a new circuit, matches those in the guide); “READ THIS” (used to convey important information about the next objective that you want to know before you start) and “Things to do” (side objectives to complete as you quest).

I’ve tried to keep non-auto completing notes to these three formats, but I’m fairly sure I’ve slipped in places, so bear with me there.

Author’s Note: Not all of these guides have been thoroughly playtested and as such there will be some errors. I do try get it right, but they do slip through. Wowhead or Jame’s internet guide will help in the case of an error.

Supplementary Addons

DoubleWide – A simple but helpful addon, it makes the quest log twice as wide and much easier to read.

This section is still just new (I know about QuestHelper but LightHeaded performs the same function), so suggestions for improvement are welcome.

Guide List

AllianceUpdated to v0.7 – 12/07/2009

  • Maw’s Human Guide (1-12) | Jame | Quality: 100%
  • Snowflake’s Draenei Guide (1-12) | Kinrah | Needs Improvements
  • Boston’s Gnome/Dwarf Guide (1-12) | Ayajulia | Needs Testing
  • Taralom’s Nightelf Guide (1-12) | Needs Testing
  • Manovan’s Night Elf Guide (1-13) | Needs Testing
  • Joan’s Human Guide (1-12) | Nuzz | Needs Testing
  • Maw’s Leveling Guide (12-20) | Jame | Quality: 100%
  • Boston’s Leveling Guide (12-20) | Nuzz | Needs Testing
  • Sven’s -Bloodmyst- Leveling Guide (12-20) | Nuzz | Needs Testing
  • Boston’s Leveling Guide (20-30) | Nuzz | Quality: 100%
  • Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide (30-40) | Nuzz | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide (40-50) | Nuzz | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide (50-60) | Nuzz | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s – Hellfire Penninsula | Nuzz | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s – Zangarmarsh | Nuzz | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s – Terokkar | Nuzz | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s – Nagrand | Nuzz | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s – Blade’s Edge Mountains | Nuzz | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s – Borean Tundra | Wizerd | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s – Howling Fjord | Wizerd | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s – Dragonblight | Needs TestingNew
  • Jame’s – Grizzly Hills | Laotseu | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s – Death Knight | Needs TestingNew

HordeUpdated to v0.7 – 12/07/2009

  • Zerinj’s Orc/Troll Starter (1-12) | Clearasil | Quality 100%
  • Shinke’s Tauren Starter (1-12) | Inyurbak | Needs Testing
  • Snowflake’s Blood Elf Starter (1-12) | Inyurbak | Needs Testing
  • Manovan’s Undead Starter (1-12) | Romgar | Needs Testing New
  • SilverKnight’s Silverpine (12-20) | Clearasil | Needs Testing
  • Hosho’s Barrens (12-20) | Clearasil | Needs Testing New
  • Snowflake’s Ghostlands Guide (13-21) | Black Cat | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (21-31) | Black Cat | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (31-41) | Clearasil | Needs Testing New
  • Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (41-51) | Plover2| Needs Testing
  • Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (51-61) | Jiyambi| Needs Testing
  • Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Hellfire Peninsula | Black Cat | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Zangarmarsh | Black Cat | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Terokkar Forest | Black Cat | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Nagrand | Black Cat | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Howling Fjord (70-71) | Black Cat | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Borean Tundra (71-73) | Black Cat | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Dragonblight (73-75) | Black Cat | Needs Testing
  • Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Grizzly Hills (75-77) | Black Cat | Needs Testing

Known Issues

If you have a problem, be sure to check the leveling addon FAQ page before asking a question – it only takes a minute, and the answer might be easily found there! If you still have a problem, feel free to post a comment
anywhere on the leveling guide pages and we will respond as soon as possible.

Borean Tundra

  • Hellscream’s Vigil: This quest will not auto-complete for some people, due to there being a separate quest by the same name for those who did the Thrall questline in Nagrand.
  • The Lost Spirits: The use item button doesn’t show up for “The Lost Spirits” quest (It’s the “Core of Malice”). This is due to the item not being in the inventory at the start of the quest.
  • Drake Hunt: Again not a bug per-se, the second time you grab it (as a daily) is included as a note instead of a accept/complete/turn-in objective set because Tour Guide otherwise detects the quest as complete (due to it sharing the same name as the
    non-daily version) despite quest ID, which is supposed to resolve these sorts of issues.

Grizzly Hills

  • Latent Power: One of the stone’s coordinates won’t show up as it wasn’t entered correctly (the northwestern one). It can be found at (71.10,39.00). Also, the use item button is missing. These issues will be corrected in the next upload.


If you want to help converting a section of the guide in TourGuide format, please check the following links:

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    Jan 7, 2009 @ 3:12

    Very nice description, gladVery nice description, glad to see you have some of Grizzly Hills done. I’ll download it and try it out.

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      Jan 9, 2009 @ 10:33

      I actually set this up aI actually set this up a while ago for my personal use since I do most of my editing at work and wanted an easy way to upload the files and get them at home.

      Nothing official, just something I was working on 🙂

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        Mai 10, 2009 @ 9:51

        I’ve followed this guide onI’ve followed this guide on numerous toons and am just now trying to download this addon to make it easier. However, after installing all the addons on my mac, in game i get an error when I click on the guide i want to use. The error is: Could not parse the item link: item:188670. Any help with this would be awesome.

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          Oct 11, 2009 @ 14:27

          Out of date. The addon is out of date and how can i update it? Someone please help me out.

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    Jan 7, 2009 @ 3:31

    I just tried the wholeI just tried the whole hellfire guide.

    Apart from a few minor errors here and there, it was great. You really put a lot of effort in it and it shows. Thank you.

    Now I really don’t know what to do, I like both addons equally ^^

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      Jan 7, 2009 @ 9:21

      This is your kingdom, JameThis is your kingdom and those guides are your children. Personally, I’d recommend getting both mod authors to brainstorm (with your contributions, of course) to create one mod. It seems it would be less confusing for us users and easier for them to keep it updated.

      Well, those are my two cents, at least. I’m looking forward to trying this mod tonight. Very excited.

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        Jan 7, 2009 @ 12:27

        I very much like how you putI very much like how you put that, Propane 🙂

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          Jan 8, 2009 @ 2:39

          Why not have both?Why not have both?

          Some ppl will like the added details of Jahwo’s Addon better, some ppl will like the more simplistic view with better tracking of TourGuide (I’m one of them). Of course, the tracking can be added to Jahwo’s over time but there is still a different way of using screen real estate and interacting with the user between the two. I’m not sure that one size will ever fits all.

          On the other hand, I’m pretty sure there are enough supporters/fans of Jame’s work to support both versions of the guide. I did my own version of Jame’s guide for TourGuide for BT, HF, DB and GH. With WoWHead and a couple of decent log from TourGuide_Recorder, it took me 3-4 hours to do GH first draft. I’m pretty sure that similar number are possible with Jahwo’s addon and I’m also pretty sure that volunteers to create, edit and test the guides will be plenty.

          Let’s have both.

          My 0.02$

          P.S. The guides I did where for Alliance BT, HF, DB and GH.

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            Jan 8, 2009 @ 6:38

            Laeotesu, if you host themLaeotesu, if you host them somewhere, I’ll download them and include them in the package (with credits to you, of course).

            Propane, I’d love to, but the thing is, my knowledge of lua is practically zip. I just worked using the existing framework made by Tekkub.

            Kwaice (this comment is way, way up the page), there’s no reason it can’t show where to turn in (and indeed pickup) each quest, I just didn’t think to put it in the first time around.

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              Jan 9, 2009 @ 1:13

              Well, they are not polishedWell, they are not polished or play tested much. I made them so I could follow Jame’s guides in game. I will try to find a place to host but really, I’d rather donate them and have more ppl contribute to them. How about we create a GoogleCode site for all of TourGuide implementation of Jame’s guides and give interested ppl the ability to commit files.

              BTW, the way I built them was not to replace Jame’s guides but to have something in game follow the in game stuff for me. I still play with Jame’s guides on my second screen. The first two guides, I just reordered Tekkub entries to follow Jame’s sequence. There were also a few missing quests. GZ, I did from scratch so I feel I did a better job of following Jame’s stuff.

              Anyways, let me know if you find the GoogleCode option interesting.

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                Jan 9, 2009 @ 9:23

                Definitely an interestingDefinitely an interesting idea have never messed with the googlecode site but having a repository where we could all help work on the data that is out there already compiled especially if TourGuide is the final decision on the way to go.

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                Jan 9, 2009 @ 12:13

                We could also do that byWe could also do that by creating a wiki page here on wow-pro.

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              Jan 21, 2009 @ 17:57

              I’ve been using Jame’sI’ve been using Jame’s guides for some time now… I was finally gonna start my own addon but then I found this, about a week ago… Gave it a little try and I only now realized it’s still rather “fresh”… You’re still discussing about it.

              I’ve been working with LUA since 2001… I used to attend college at PUC-Rio and worked at TecGraf (basically where lua was BORN), but that definitely doesn’t meke me an expert, though I have *really good* understandinf of lua. I did try to make a few mods of my own, but I don’t have THAT much experience in the MOD API of WoW, particularly the UI side (the stuff you see).

              So… I would really like to help. For me and for everyone. I strongly feel that I can add requested features to Tekkub’s (TG) addon. OR Jahwoo’s, for that matter. But personally I like tekkub’s better as a starting point.

              One thing I think we could add is starting and ending tags for notes to be shown –at the same time the current objective is showing!– Like: “Remember to loot for XX while in this area”.
              That’s one.

              I don’t have interest in writing TG editors, recorders, since there are people doing that already (and apparently, doing great :D).

              But I’m here. And accepting suggestions.

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            Jan 8, 2009 @ 12:18

            I believe that the confusionI believe that the confusion is too big if there are two addons on the site, that are supported by the community. I think new users won’t catch on with it if there are two as different “systems” as my addon and tourguide…

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    Jan 7, 2009 @ 13:25

    This looks very nice too. IThis looks very nice too. I will try it tonight 😀

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      Jan 7, 2009 @ 18:30

      Alright i am using it rightAlright i am using it right now and here is what i like about it :

      -I like the arrow, yes i know it’s stupid but i like it more than Wow-pro’s addon :p
      -I LOVE when the addon automatically shows what item you need to use for a quest. I hate searching in my bags for a quest item
      -Indication on the minimap is helpful.
      -Automatically tracking quest
      -Takes less screen space than wow-pro’s addon

      I took a little more time to get used to this addon. Sometimes it doesn’t show where you need to give a quest back but i figured it wasn’t always necessary.

      Overall it was very clear and helpful. I liked it.

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        Jan 7, 2009 @ 23:11

        I reluctantly have to agreeI reluctantly have to agree with Kwaice – I think I prefer the TourGuide over Jahwo’s addon, which is a shame because his is still very nice!

        Here are my thoughts:

        [list][*]I prefer the interface of TourGuide – the ability to skip steps and come back if you want to (say if you are questing with a friend for a little while or something) is very nice, and it’s MUCH easier to navigate between steps.
        [*]As Kwaice says, the little icon for the quest item is ridiculously cool, and was a very pleasant surprise.
        [*]Taking up screen space is also a plus for me
        [*]Note that Jahwo’s addon also supports autocomplete now, so that’s not an issue
        [*]I do dislike the way we see Jame’s notes now, but the other plusses outweigh this in my opinion.[/list]

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          Jan 7, 2009 @ 23:15

          and I have to say that theand [i]I[/i] have to say that the autocomplete of my addon is certainly not as good as the one of TourGuide, because, as far as i know, it really tracks the quests. 😉

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          Jan 7, 2009 @ 23:21

          And I’m even more undecidedAnd I’m even more undecided now 😛

          See, I agree with all of the above.

          But there’s one thing that bothers me. TourGuide is an addon developped by Tekkub, a person who has no ties to wow-pro at all, which means that if we ever want a new feature for the addon, we’d have to ask Tekkub or ask his permission to make a change ourselves, and I’m not sure how that would work out.

          But then again, I can’t think of any feature I’d want to add right now, so I don’t know. What do you guys think about this?

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            Jan 7, 2009 @ 23:23

            Unless Tekkub put his addonUnless Tekkub put his addon under a certain license you probably can take changes as long as you state that the addon is his work.. i think

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              Jan 7, 2009 @ 23:25

              I believe this is the case.I believe this is the case. However no reason not to contact Tekkub now and ask him! I think he may be involved with WOWWiki, I’ll see if I can find him on there.

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                Jan 7, 2009 @ 23:30

                I left a message for Tekkub,I left a message for Tekkub, we’ll see what he says.

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                  Jan 7, 2009 @ 23:47

                  Here is Tekkub’s User Page.[url=]Here is Tekkub’s User Page[/url]. He says:
                  [quote]You don’t need to change anything. Make your own addon with your guides in it and have it require TG. Look at the guides included with the addon, they can be pulled out into standalone addons.[/quote]

                  Anyone have anything else you want me to ask him? I’m not sure this really answers our question…

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                    Jan 7, 2009 @ 23:50

                    I’m not quite sure, but iI’m not quite sure, but i think, he thinks that we want to use his guides, not his addon… but idk xD

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                      Jan 7, 2009 @ 23:56

                      I asked for clarification,I asked for clarification, we’ll see how it goes.

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                      Jan 8, 2009 @ 0:02

                      Quote:In short, you fuck[quote]In short, you fuck with it,[/quote]

                      what a nice guy 😀

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                      Jan 8, 2009 @ 0:17

                      Hah, I know right? Well heHah, I know right? Well he linked us [url=]this[/url], sounds like if we did for some reason need to change the addon itself it would be fine as long as we rename it. So check that concern off the list.

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                      Jan 8, 2009 @ 0:20

                      Also, I think he is rightAlso, I think he is right that there really isn’t really anything that needs to be changed 😉

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                      Jan 8, 2009 @ 0:21

                      I wonder how small theseI wonder how small these frames can get xD

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                      Jan 8, 2009 @ 1:18

                      Pretty small I reckon.Pretty small I reckon.

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                      Jan 8, 2009 @ 1:17

                      Lmao. Let’s fuck with itLmao. Let’s fuck with it then!

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            Jan 7, 2009 @ 23:39

            how about making a poll?how about making a poll? 🙂

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              Jan 7, 2009 @ 23:46

              Good idea.Good idea.

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              Jan 7, 2009 @ 23:52

              I created a PollI created a Poll [url=]here[/url].

              Jame, I think it would be a good idea to have a news post explaining the situation and letting people know we are doing a survey. The survey will not necessarily mean one addon will be chosen and the other discontinued, it’s just to see how people feel.

              I can make a news post as such if you like 🙂

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                Jan 8, 2009 @ 0:44

                seems like exalted membersseems like exalted members are not allowed to make polls on their own 😛

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                  Jan 8, 2009 @ 1:23

                  They are, but for someThey are, but for some reason they don’t get published when created, I’m gonna fix it ^^

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                Jan 8, 2009 @ 1:08

                Hey that would actually be aHey that would actually be a great first news post Ji. Go for it!

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      Jan 8, 2009 @ 10:41

      Must also add that, afterMust also add that, after looking through the lua files, it seems easier to add guides into Tour Guide and i think that auto-completion works with any client, be it french, english or whatever, thanks to the quest ID’s.

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    Jan 7, 2009 @ 16:22

    It sounds great, and I can’tIt sounds great, and I can’t wait to try it out; this should help with my alt leveling!

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    Jan 8, 2009 @ 10:00

    I was in the process ofI was in the process of working on these for the alliance side for my own personal use. I have all of the 30-60, 60-64, and 70-73 done. There are some errors that I’ve found as I played through them but they work very well for the most part. I can post what I have if anyone is interested.

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      Jan 8, 2009 @ 18:16

      PleaseThat would be awesome if you could post them. If possible, could you also include what some of the errors are at least generally, so that I (or we) can be ready for them? Thanks.

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    Jan 8, 2009 @ 12:33

    Ally side tourguideI have just been reading up on tourguide and tourguide recorder.
    Seems to me it is a much much easier thing to create guides in then with the other one.
    I will start giving the second ally guide WoTLK part a go tonight. ( just reached it )
    And see how the tourguide records this and edit it here and there with comments etcetera.
    Looks like it will be mostly a run the guide with recorder, add jamies invaluable comments and advises, rerun to test with another char and go.

    I will let you all know how it goes later this week ( got some wow time now )

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    Jan 8, 2009 @ 14:21

    These look great!Naturally, my rogue recently finished GH @ 79.5 and I haven’t made it back to my other chars yet for testing, but it looks like I’m going to have to.

    What would be ideal in the longer term is to figure out a way to format Jame’s existing guides so that a program can be written to read the web page and spit out a guide is whichever format is settled on – or both, for that matter.

    That way a guide can be written once and work everywhere.

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    Jan 8, 2009 @ 17:46

    One bad thing about thisOne bad thing about this guide is that it shows only one step at a time. This reduces the ability to work on several things/steps at the same time.

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      Jan 9, 2009 @ 3:15

      I actually think you’re deadI actually think you’re dead wrong here, it’s the opposite. It’s much easier to see multiple steps with the tour guide addon, just right click the step and it will bring up a list of all the steps. With Jahwo’s, you only see one at a time and have to click forward or back to see more, but it’s always only one at a time. Here you can see a whole list of steps at once, and jump to them that way or just check them off from the list.

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    Jan 9, 2009 @ 5:18

    Here is a link for anyoneHere is a link for anyone that is interested in trying out what I’ve done with the Alliance guides. There are some errors, the most common being that you will see a “no zone” msg output because of the way I coded the files (they are not named after the zones, thus the error). You will need to append them to the end of the Guides.xml file in the alliance folder of TourGuide. Questions just let me know.

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      Jan 10, 2009 @ 2:17

      Yeah, TourGuide is designedYeah, TourGuide is designed to be split by zones, not by levels.

      I’ll download the files and slip it appropriately when I have time (I’ve been busy with RL stuff in the last few days, which is why I’m been mostly missing).

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    Jan 9, 2009 @ 20:52

    TourGuide Wikipage neededBlack Cat (or someone with extensive experience in converting guides in tourguide), could you please write up a wiki page to explain how to convert my guides in tourguide format, similar to what Hosho did for Jahwo’s addon:

    That would be awesome.

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      Jan 9, 2009 @ 21:11

      How to edit TourGuide[url=]How to edit TourGuide Guides[/url]

      Tag. 🙂

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        Jan 9, 2009 @ 21:24

        Ah, silly me

        Well, I’llAh, silly me 😛

        Well, I’ll still create a wiki page on wow-pro, include the link you just gave me and we’ll still have room to add tips specific to including my leveling guides, if we find any 😉

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    Jan 9, 2009 @ 21:16

    Only to 28?In the folder itself, it shows all the levels of a guide, but when I load it in game, it only goes to 28

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      Jan 10, 2009 @ 2:14

      Only to 28, hmm?

      Most ofOnly to 28, hmm?

      Most of the files are just placeholders; if you look inside them, they’re practically empty. The only ones complete are those listed.

      I probably should have mentioned this somewhere, sorry for the confusion.

      But it should be going up to 31. I’ll go double check.

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        Jan 10, 2009 @ 13:37

        Yea, it’s the same for me.Yea, it’s the same for me. It basically stops at the end of the Hillsbard Circuit at level 28.

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          Jan 12, 2009 @ 6:25

          Okay, the problem isOkay, the problem is twofold.

          1. Turns out I didn’t actually do the section for Ashenvale. /facepalm. Sorry! Next release, I promise!

          2. I forgot to add the other guides to the Guides.xml file. I’ve just fixed this, but it won’t be changed until I upload the new file (I want to finish Grizzly Hills first).

          As a temporary fix:

          Open up the Guides.xml file (in Wordpad or TextEdit, if you use a PC or Mac respectively, no idea about Linux, sorry).

          Find the following line:


          Add the following line after it:


          This should fix the problem and let you load the Thousand Needles section.

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    Jan 10, 2009 @ 7:42

    I’m nearly done with the DunI’m nearly done with the Dun Morogh guide. One question: does anyone know the guy who did the main TourGuide addon? There are a bunch of times were Boston asks the user to grind a bar or two, and the only way I can express this is with a “Note” format that doesn’t auto-complete. It would be nice to have a level detection built in, so I could do something like “K Grind Leper Gnomes until level 10. |Lev|10|”

    Other than that, it’s coming along nicely. It really IS much easier to add to TourGuide than the other addon, as beautiful as the other one was.

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    Jan 10, 2009 @ 19:27

    reminds meThis reminds me of quest helper. Although this is way better, this is actually telling to do this and to do that. I bet Joanna and her guide is shaking in their pants. This is my favorite over the two, well three if i include the steam browser utility. If i wernt so busy with wrestling i would love to contribute. Just think though what if we integrated this with some gold guides… hmmm i think were on to something here.=]

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      Jan 12, 2009 @ 3:16

      There’s no reason not toThere’s no reason not to include daily questing guides or even farming guides – the possibilities are quite exciting!

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    Jan 10, 2009 @ 20:34

    Problem getting it to work rightWhen I download the tour guide add on, and head into game I see all the guides from 1-70 in the guide list. Downloading the Jame Modification file I only get the option to merge the existing Horde folder together with the new one, resulting in drastically less guides but adding the Northrend guides.

    How do I get it to display all the guides, at once.

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      Jan 12, 2009 @ 6:19

      What you’re doing when youWhat you’re doing when you copy and paste the folder is essentially deleting the old folder and loading my one.

      What this does is two-fold: you lose all the old files, and you overwrite the Guides.xml file.

      The Guides.xml file is essentially an index; it tells the addon what files to load.

      So, how you fix the problem:

      1. Redownload the original TourGuide file
      2. Backup the TourGuide_Horde file
      3. Copy and paste the modification file.
      4. Copy and paste all the files from the original TourGuide_Horde folder into the new one [i]except for the Guides.xml file[/i].
      5. Open up the Guides.xml file (use WordPad, notepad will display it all funny).
      6. Add the guides you want into the file. The format is like this:

      If you still can’t get the guide(s) to load, you’ve probably got a typing error (in the wrong spot, it can cause [i]all[/i] the guides not to load).

      A final word of warning, these guides you are loading are [b]not[/b] Jame’s guides, they’re just whatever came with the addon and as such I can’t make any guarantees on their quality.

      Hope this helps!

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    Jan 10, 2009 @ 20:39

    I’m play-testing the GrizzlyI’m play-testing the Grizzly Hills guide now, and I found a couple of tiny errors toward the beginning. I’d just correct them myself, but I’m sure you’ve made your own edits since this version to move it toward completion. 🙂 They actually all center on the quest “Jun’ik’s Coverup.”

    1- The objectives don’t auto-complete where you tell us to buy the items. For your convenience, you can just stick these little snippets of code in:
    |Q|Jun’ik’s Coverup|QO|Simple Flour: 5/5|
    |Q|Jun’ik’s Coverup|QO|Coal: 1/1|

    2- The next step after buying those two items tells us to turn in Delivery to Krenna. First, you need to have us turn in Jun’ik’s Coverup and take Delivery to Krenna. 🙂

    Awesome work though!

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      Jan 12, 2009 @ 6:11

      Fixed! The correction willFixed! The correction will be uploaded when I next update the file (when I get Grizzly Hills done).


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    Jan 10, 2009 @ 22:38

    Tourguide RecorderI tried using Tourguide Recorder, which is an addon that basically records what you do and puts that in lua format.

    The result file you can easily modify to suit your needs. I did Dragonblight like this, following Jame’s guide to the letter, and I’m now working on getting the resulting lua file right.

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    Jan 11, 2009 @ 1:13

    Signed upSigned up to do the 1-12 Azuremyst guide. Going to start work on it as soon as the TourGuide editing page comes back up.

    This is certainly a lot easier than dragging out the laptop every time I want to look at a guide while in-game. Or printing it out. (I have the first three Alliance Northrend guides all printed out in a big binder. >.>)

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    Jan 12, 2009 @ 1:38

    List of Guides 😕 I am a bit confused.. Jame, do your guides work with this add on? And if they do how do I get them into the add on?

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      Jan 12, 2009 @ 1:47

      I’ve added a section aboutYes they work with the addon, that’s the whole point.

      Not all the chapters have been done yet, but more and more are being added every day. There’s a list of what’s already done above.

      And I’ve added a section about how to install it. Read it and it should be easy.

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    Jan 12, 2009 @ 4:02

    Nagrand not showing upIs nagrand just not added yet? I see it as a list of “currently working” but can’t get the guide to pull up. Other ones work like a charm but Just cna’t find the Nagrand one. Is this normal atm?

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      Jan 12, 2009 @ 12:29

      It would help if you couldIt would help if you could actually mention if you’re talking about the alliance or the horde side of the guide, you know :p

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        Jan 12, 2009 @ 16:19

        HordeSorry, I’m on the horde side and can’t get Nagrand to be recognized.

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          Jan 12, 2009 @ 17:54

          Ok. I think it’s becauseOk. I think it’s because Black Cat forgot to add this section to the .xml file (correct me if I’m wrong Black Cat).

          He’ll fix it and update a proper version very soon (he just needs to finish the Grizzly Hills chapter, which is 80% done right now).

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            Jan 13, 2009 @ 1:28

            Yep, my bad.

            You’ll need toYep, my bad.

            You’ll need to add the following line to the Guides.xml file (in the TourGuide_Horde folder):


            I’ve given more detailed instructions further down the page (given, it was for the Thousand Needles section, but it’s the same principle).

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    Jan 12, 2009 @ 7:01

    As I pointed out on the wikiAs I pointed out on the wiki page, and was copied here… you need to make your addon(s) standalone. Don’t have people putting files into TourGuide and mucking about in the code. It should be a simple “unzip this into your addon folder and make sure you have TourGuide installed as well” process.

    And if ya need to contact me, email for gods sake! It’s not like I put contact info in the file you’re telling your users to edit or anything….

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      Jan 12, 2009 @ 12:31

      Hey Tekkub and welcome.Hey Tekkub and welcome. Thanks for making this awesome addon. We’ll make the addon standalone, no worries. Right now it’s just a big work in progress, so it’s a mess, but we’ll clean it up asap.

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      Jan 12, 2009 @ 17:35

      Alright, we might have a fixAlright, we might have a fix for it, thanks to Jahwo:

      [quote]I just wrote a small addon, or a file rather. The guidewriters for tourguide can put their guides in it, so they don’t have to mess with the tourguide code.

      It depends on TourGuide and isn’t loaded without it but you have to give the guides “new names” and have to register them in the .xml file (very much like in my addon).

      I did not test it, but i think it should work…


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        Jan 12, 2009 @ 21:01

        All You Really NeedI could be wrong, but you should just need to create a TOC file (e.g. TourGuide_James/TourGuide_James.toc) with the following content:

        ## Title: Tour Guide (Jame’s Powerleveling Guides)
        ## Notes: Easy to follow optimized quest circuits for Alliance and Horde
        ## Version: v0.1-beta
        ## X-Category: Quest

        ## RequiredDeps: TourGuide
        ## DefaultState: disabled


        And the Guides.xml files would look something like this:

        <Ui xmlns=””>
        <Script file=”01_12_TirisfalGlades.lua”/>
        <Script file=”01_12_Mulgore.lua”/>
        <Script file=”01_12_Durotar.lua”/>
        <Script file=”01_13_Eversong.lua”/>

        <Script file=”12_21_Barrens.lua”/>
        <Script file=”13_21_Ghostlands.lua”/>

        <Script file=”21_22_Stonetalon_Mountains.lua”/>
        <Script file=”22_24_Hillsbrad_Foothills.lua”/>
        <Script file=”24_25_Ashenvale.lua”/>
        <Script file=”25_26_The_Barrens.lua”/>
        <Script file=”26_27_Ashenvale.lua”/>
        <Script file=”27_28_Stonetalon_Mountains.lua”/>
        <Script file=”28_28_Hillsbrad_Foothills.lua”/>

        <Script file=”48_51_Hinterlands.lua”/>
        <Script file=”51_52_Feralas.lua”/>

        <Script file=”60_62_Hellfire_Peninsula.lua”/>
        <Script file=”62_63_Zangarmarsh.lua”/>
        <Script file=”63_65_Terokkar_Forest.lua”/>

        <Script file=”70_71_Howling_Fjord.lua”/>
        <Script file=”71_73_Borean_Tundra.lua”/>
        <Script file=”73_75_Dragonblight.lua”/>
        <Script file=”75_77_Grizzly_Hills.lua”/>

        Then you just create the TourGuide_James directory in the %World of Warcraft%/Interface/Addons directory with the Alliance and Horde subdirectories (with the guides in each) and the TOC file.

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          Jan 12, 2009 @ 21:32

          Well, if someone could takeWell, if someone could take care of that, I’d be really glad :p

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          Jan 24, 2009 @ 8:14

          There’s a minor error in theThere’s a minor error in the Horde file in version v0.2.

          Old and busted:

          The new hotness:

          Alternately, rename the Terokkar guide file to match the script (didn’t test this option).

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    Jan 12, 2009 @ 17:45

    display arrowI can’t seem to find the option to display the tomtom arrow. Where is it? What is the / command for displaying the arrow? Sorry Im sure its a total noob question.

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      Jan 12, 2009 @ 23:36

      same errorOut of 5 quests that i did only one had the tomtom arrow… I had to turn on quest helepr most of the time.

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        Jan 13, 2009 @ 1:28

        Not all the quests have aNot all the quests have a coordinate for the arrow to point too. It will only appear if there is a coordinate in the comments (to view the comments, mouse-over the TG bar).

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          Jan 13, 2009 @ 2:37

          but then :SBut then if the arrow doesn’t point to where to go what is the point of having it? You still need to go on the web and find where you need to go or use another addon to tell where to go always…

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            Jan 13, 2009 @ 12:35

            For some quests you’reFor some quests you’re already in the area. Therefore, you don’t need an arrow telling you to stay where you are.

            For some quests, the object(s) you are seeking have multiple spawn points in an area. Or you may be hunting for something over an area. In this case, you’ll find directions in the comments, which display when you hover your cursor over the TourGuide bar.

            Otherwise, it may be an error.

            In other words, there won’t be an arrow if it’s either unnecessary, unviable, or incorrect.

            Hope this helps clarify the issue. 😉

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              Jan 13, 2009 @ 19:25

              thanks black catThanks for the help with the arrow issue. It showed up once i got the quests manually checked off. I was in Borean Tundra and had completed a few quest before the addon came out. Once the guide and my quest log were sync’d up all is good!

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    Jan 12, 2009 @ 21:01

    Weird IssuesOkay, Nagrand just showed up but myself and two of my friends that have been testing this the last day or two are having a weird issue where sometimes the guides don’t show up but sometimes they do. I didnt change anything but now the WOTLK guides are gone where yesterday they were there. My friend was using it and was in the hellfire peninsula (horde) and the HFP guide wasn’t there, he moved outside the inn and it showed up. Do you have to be in the continent for the guide to show up or something?

    Yesterday the WOTLK was showing up when i was in BC and now it’s not and i’m about to head there.

    Thanks and this is an amzing bit of work btw!

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      Jan 12, 2009 @ 22:45

      Same thing hereI have the guides for 66-70 (the ones I need) missing also. I tried to reinstal the guide but I got the same error 😕

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        Jan 13, 2009 @ 1:34

        Darkuan, which faction areDarkuan, which faction are you? Are the guides present in the TourGuide_Horde/Alliance folder? Are they in the relevant Guides.xml file?

        alaiwy, I’m a little stumped. Are the characters on different factions? As you can see above, the Horde guide doesn’t go past Nagrand, while the alliance guide is currently missing Northrend.

        Sorry I couldn’t be more help. 🙁

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          Jan 13, 2009 @ 2:44

          I’m level 67 undead mage,I’m level 67 undead mage, but yestorday it was working..
          Guess that’s the problem.

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    Jan 12, 2009 @ 23:33

    Missed a Q pickup.Just wanted to post to mention that on the Horde Hellfire Peninsula guide, roughly three quarters of the way into the guide, the guide points you to turn in the quest “Void Ridge” and “Make Them Listen”, you are then supposed to pick up the follow up to Void Ridge, From the Abyss however the TourGuide version doesnt include the follow up pickup.

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      Jan 13, 2009 @ 12:38

      Fixed! Thanks for pointingFixed! Thanks for pointing this out, it’ll work with the next update.

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    Jan 13, 2009 @ 1:39

    I don’t know if this is working for me. 😕

    So I downloaded the WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Alliance file and I unzipped it, read the instructions. Copied the folders to the TourGuide folder, then copied the text below and put it on the .TOC file which I had to open with Wordpad. I logged on to the game and I open TourGuide, scroll down the guide list and I found a list of guides with the names of the text i put up in the .TOC file. The only ones with clean names are Snowflakes Azuremyst Guide (1-12) and Boston’s 1-12 Dun Morough leveling guide. The rest are unclear. I would like to know if I did something wrong, because I’m not seeing Jame’s guide’s in here and I did exactly what the file said…I think 😕 could anyone help?

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      Jan 13, 2009 @ 5:25

      The rest are unclear due toThe rest are unclear due to the way they are named inside the LUA file itself. For instance, on the guide selection screen it shows “001 – 6-8 – Goldshire-Ironforge”. Inside the LUA file its called to show that. Where as Snowflake’s and Boston’s, the ones that are named inside the file right, come up with “Snowflakes Azuremyst Guide (1-12)”.

      I messed around with it and renamed the “001 – 6-8 – Goldshire-Ironforge” to “Human 6-8 – Goldshire-Ironforge” inside the file and it showed that in the game.

      So if we want complete clarity, someone is going to have to go into all the LUA files and fix them.

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      Jan 13, 2009 @ 5:38

      havin the same problem. Thehavin the same problem. The directions in the .txt are a bit off, i think. I’ve been experimenting a bit and it looks to me like I’m not supposed to put the folders in the tourguide folder–I’m supposed to put the .lua’s inside of the folders into the tourguide directory. So…

      let’s say this was tourguide:



      so on and so forth…

      this was the alliance/horde package downloaded from here:


      so on and so forth

      what’s INISDE of the “alliance3040-Jame” is a .lua (or many many of them)

      I think i’ve got to copy those into the TOURGUIDE folder. I don’t know for sure, and i’m going to be really pissed if i just did all of that typing for nothing, lmfao. Well, i’m off to test that theory, haha. be back in a bit 😀

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      Jan 13, 2009 @ 12:59

      No you did nothing wrong.No you did nothing wrong. It’s just the way the files are named for now, we’ll polish it in the future. But it works though, it’s my leveling guide in there.

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    Jan 13, 2009 @ 7:26

    Long Time Viewer First time CallerHey guys I’ve been using Jame’s Horde guides ever since I started playing wow just over a year ago,and I’ve hooked all my guildmates onto them as well. And I was ecstatic when I found out about the addons.

    But I’ve try using the Tourguide style and unfortunately TomTom and Cartographer don’t want to play together nicely no matter what I try to do. and the Custom addon doesn’t have enough of the guides on there to help. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make them play nicely so I can keep using the addons I love and my new squeeze?

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      Jan 13, 2009 @ 12:31

      I believe it’s the fact thatI believe it’s the fact that the arrow in TomTom used to belong to Cartographer… you may be able to get them to play together if you disable the arrow. (Note, I know next to nothing about .lua and this is pure guesswork).

      But, as an alternative, I’ve found that [url=]Mapster[/url] works fine in conjunction with TourGuide and TomTom; and it gives the same functionality as Cartographer (if you want the mining/herbalism nodes, try [url=]Gatherer[/url].

      Hope this helps. 🙂

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      Jan 13, 2009 @ 17:33

      Works Fine With Just CartographerI have no problems running TG with out TomTom,just using Cartographer. The Cartographer waypoint systems works with TG just fine for me.

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        Jan 13, 2009 @ 19:19

        Same with me, it should beSame with me, it should be noted that you do NOT need TomTom if you have Cartographer.

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      Jan 13, 2009 @ 19:52

      Tomtom was derived from theTomtom was derived from the Cartographer waypoints system, and hence, it uses the same code as Tomtom, if you remove the TomTom folder from your Interface/Addons folder, or just disable it in-game, you can use both TG and Cartographer with no problems, hope this helps.

      Perhaps this should be added to the installation notes, I.e. A warning to users of Cartographer about not to copy the TomTom folder into your Addons folder… just a thought!

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    Jan 13, 2009 @ 12:58

    I’ve finally finished theI’ve [i]finally[/i] finished the update and uploaded it; the link now leads to the new file on FileFront (Jame, if you could stick it on WoWPro and change the link again, it’d be much appreciated :)).

    Just to clarify, this is a minor content patch for the [b]Horde[/b] version. It now includes the Grizzly Hills guide and several minor bug fixes (guides should now load properly, some missing steps have been added, etc). The 30-31 Ashenvale section, sadly, is still missing.

    I’m out of town for the next few days with family business, so I don’t have any time to fix up the addon properly and change it into a external instead of a mess around with the original TG code. I’ll get to it as soon as I get back, I promise!

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      Jan 13, 2009 @ 13:07

      Alright Black Cat, thankAlright Black Cat, thank you. I’ve uploaded the new file on wow-pro.

      If anyone else knows how to make the addon into an external, your help would be much appreciated. I don’t know how to do it personally. And it doesn’t have to be Black Cat doing it either, I think he’s already done enough 🙂

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        Jan 13, 2009 @ 15:54

        Uhm I already sent you thatUhm I already sent you that 😉 But i didn’t split it into Horde, Alliance and Neutral, but I can do that.. And if you wantme to do that it’d be nice if you can tell me a name for the “addon”, because I’m not very good at coming up with names 😉


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          Jan 13, 2009 @ 19:14

          Would be really nice if youWould be really nice if you could do it.

          Name it WoWPro TourGuide 😉

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            Jan 13, 2009 @ 19:24

            Allright.. if that’s ok withAlright.. if that’s ok with tekkub and his nam-egiving conventions 😉

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              Jan 13, 2009 @ 19:48

              Meh, I hope it is. If it’sMeh, I hope it is. If it’s not I’ll have to think of something else ^^

              Or we could rename it “In Short, we fucked with it”!

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                Jan 13, 2009 @ 19:55

                Haha, great ideaHaha, great idea 😀

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                  Jan 13, 2009 @ 22:40

                  I just wrote the folderI just wrote the folder structure… you can download it [url=]Here[/url].
                  It’s nothing big or special. It works like an addon you put in your Addons folder.
                  You can put your guides in there without having to mess with the tourguide code. Just add the guides to the adequate folder and add it in the appropriate Guides.xml file.
                  You can also add the files to the .toc files but I’d recommend to add them all to the.xmls for consitency’s sake.


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    Jan 13, 2009 @ 15:24

    I recommend that you add myI recommend that you add my 1-12 Human Leveling guide, and my 12-20 Alliance Leveling guide aswell. You could also add Manovan’s 1-13 Undead Leveling guide, aswell as his 1-10/11/12/13 Night Elf leveling guide (when it’s released) 🙂

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      Jan 13, 2009 @ 19:15

      It’s a wiki page, don’t beIt’s a wiki page, don’t be afraid to add stuff yourself if you think it’s useful/relevant. 😉

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    Jan 13, 2009 @ 16:05

    It might be a good idea toIt might be a good idea to mention that with the addon Lightheaded you automatically get the coordinates of questgivers. I’m sorry if its already mentioned somewhere or if I’m wrong.

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      Jan 14, 2009 @ 0:49

      Good idea. I usually useGood idea. I usually use QuestHelper, TomTom, and Cartographer as well.

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    Jan 13, 2009 @ 16:47

    Source Control?Do you have it under source control somewhere?

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    Jan 13, 2009 @ 20:14

    Far more difficult…You have made this far more difficult than it needs to be and (all but one person) have completely missed what Tekkub was saying.

    You don’t need to (and probably shouldn’t) modify anything that has to do with TourGuide in order to use your own guides. That would make updates of TourGuide a nightmare for people who want to use any guides other than those posted here. (Not to mention that it makes more work for you AND the guide creators.)

    ZacHowland attempted an explanation a few posts after Tekkub first making his statement. Jame’s reply was “Well, if someone could take care of that, I’d be really glad.” I have taken the liberty to do just that with the Alliance guides as an example.;12963076;/fileinfo.html

    I used the file which is downloadable from the top of the page. I have simply placed the files into the appropriate file and folder format. There is absolutely no need to edit any of TourGuide’s files to make them work. You simply install like any other addon, by unarchiving into your AddOns directory and making certain that the guides you wish to use are properly checked (enabled) within the game’s addon interface. This will allow people to choose precisely which guides they wish to use (not to mention making for easier installation) and will cause no problems with future updates of TourGuide. Once in game, follow the same directions above for “Using the Addon”.

    Thank you for your time.

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      Jan 14, 2009 @ 0:32

      Thank you for yourThank you for your help.

      However, I have a few questions.

      1. Can we compress all that in one single folder instead of one for every guide?

      I just don’t like to have a bazillion of folders in my addons folder, and I suppose most people don’t either.

      2. Is it possible to make my guides appear at the top of the list, above the default ones? Because if not, I’ll get about 50 e-mails everyday from people telling me they can’t find the guides (because they won’t think about scrolling down), I guarantee you that. :p

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        Jan 14, 2009 @ 10:42

        1.1. – Folder with folders in it 😉 But no guides registered
        2. Maybe if you register the gudes with a special character like ~ or so in the front. But that’s just a guess.

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        Jan 14, 2009 @ 16:36

        Some Suggestions1. Yes, you can put them into a single folder to place in your Addon directory. You just have to ues the XML file to load the scripts in those subdirectories (as I mentioned in my other post).

        2. That is a question you’d have to ask the TourGuide creator (Tekkub). Honestly, if you name all these guides consistently it won’t matter if they are on top, though. For example:

        WoW-Pro Tauren Starting Guide (1-12)
        WoW-Pro Horde Barrens Guide (12-21)
        WoW-Pro Horde Guide (21-31)
        WoW-Pro Alliance Guide (31-41)


        I’m assuming (could be wrong) that TourGuide sorts its list alphabetically, so this would ensure all the guides from the WoW-Pro community would be grouped together in the list (even if they had to scroll to find them).

        I can say that Tekkub is not likely going to want to place preference to certain guides to place them at the top of the list for several developmental reasons.

        3. Use ZIP files instead of RAR files to upload. While this is a minor issue, most files on sites like use zip files and most operating systems have built-in support to handle them. That is not the case with RAR files.

        4. Since you are likely to have several people making additions and changes to things, I’d recommend using some form of source control. You can either set up your own CVS/SVN server, or use something like SourceForge or GoogleCode. It would make things much easier to maintain.

        I can go into more detail if you have any questions about any of those.

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    Jan 13, 2009 @ 20:41

    Another fixJust about finished testing the HFP guide, majority of co-ords are in the right area (some are a tiny bit off but you can see the thing you need to interact with).
    I did find one big error on a co-ord, it is the part right near the end of the guide where you go to Swamprat post, the co-ords in the note are right it seems however the mapped point is all the way over at The Dark Portal. It may be a zoning issue but thought I’d point it out.

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      Jan 16, 2009 @ 23:28

      Ah. The coords are indeed inAh. The coords are indeed in the wrong zone, I forgot to put a zone tag on.

      Thanks for pointing this out! 😉

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    Jan 14, 2009 @ 2:08

    Tour Guide HordeWhat am I doing wrong?
    I installed as directed by replacing the Horde guide that came with Tour Guide with the James guide. When I tried to use it on my 55 hunter the guides from 52-60 were missing even though the lua files were in the proper folder. I opened the guide.xml file and saw that the lines for these guides were missing so I added the appropriate lines. Now when I log in with the same character those guides show up as 100% finished. I shift click on them to reset them and the 100% goes away but when I try to select them again they switch back to 100% complete. All of the other guides seem to work fine on that character and other chars I have tried have had no issues with it. Haven’t tried the level guides at issue on any other char yet. Please Help someone!

    I have been really enjoying using the website guides and was glad to see the in-game add on. Excellent work on both. Thanks and keep up the good work.

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      Jan 16, 2009 @ 23:25

      You’re doing nothing wrong,You’re doing nothing wrong, the problem is that the guides don’t exist yet. Those files are nothing but placeholders, if you open them up you’ll see they’re empty aside from the basic opening and closing syntax.

      Hmm. I should of thought of this sort of thing happening. I think there’ll be a FAQ section incoming.

      Sorry I couldn’t be more help, you’ll just have to wait until the guides are written. 🙁

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        Jan 18, 2009 @ 5:46

        Thanks for your response. IThanks for your response. I really appreciate all of your work on this.

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    Jan 14, 2009 @ 15:16

    How hill we know when guides are updated? ie. the Horde GH guide is 80% complete. Will it just be posted here as each guide is completed/added?

    DKs rule…others drool

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      Jan 14, 2009 @ 16:42

      We’ll put an “Updated” tagWe’ll put an “Updated” tag next to each guide whenever they are updated.

      I’ll also make news posts regularly when big udpates are made.

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        Jan 14, 2009 @ 19:33

        Or..?Is there any chance you could start using version numbers (like 1.09 then 1.1 etc. ,I think you know) on the filenames. That way we could just favorite the download location and see if filename has changed.

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    Jan 15, 2009 @ 1:34

    .tocHow do I edit the .toc file as directed?

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      Jan 15, 2009 @ 3:32

      I’ve done the guides that weI’ve done the guides that we can already download. I just need a place where I can upload them. That should give you plenty of examples.

      I’ll try to do a quick Wiki entry after that.

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    Jan 15, 2009 @ 4:34

    Alright, I just did a bigAlright, I just did a big update on the Alliance file. You no longer need to edit the .toc file, it’s very simple now.

    All you have to do is download the WoW-Pro TourGuide Alliance file, unzip it, put it in your addon folder and that’s it.

    The wow-pro guides appear at the bottom of the list in game. As shown in the screenshot I added in the installation section above.

    Enjoy and please help us improve the guides by leaving feedback.

    ps: If someone has the time and motivation, it’d be great to do the exact same thing for the horde side. Download the alliance .zip I just uploaded and see what I did, then just reproduce it for the horde.

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    Jan 15, 2009 @ 12:40

    Slight ProblemJame, you are the biggest legend in the history of WoW to me, you’re guides have turned me from a once slow leveler to a fast and speedy quester….
    Unfortunately when i try to download the TourGuide Horde Addon, instead of asking me to open or save it says to find or save so yeah im kind of clueless 🙁 But again your guides are the best and I hope it can be fixed soon so I can level up my Troll as high as my alliance (Lvl 52 atm) 🙂

    Gynnome, Gnome Rogue

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    Jan 15, 2009 @ 13:34

    I’d rather not give negativeI’d rather not give negative feedback all the time, but I can’t help it.

    Right now there are more than two different versions of the alliance guide available:
    1. The wrong version Tekkub commented on (files inside the TourGuide directory)
    2. Corrected Version with a new directory and the guide files in sub-directories
    3. Corrected Version with a new directory and guide files directly in there

    Maybe more?

    Inside of those archives are guides in different states. One has all Alliance guides up to level 70 and then there’s one with level 70+ guides, but those aren’t finished yet as it seems.

    If you want this format to succeed, there needs to be an instance of control. Right now there are a lot of people willing to contribute, which is a good thing, but without some kind of version control, you will end up with an addon that doesn’t do your guides justice, exactly as you feared.

    Jame you should take a few steps to prevent this:

    1. Appoint someone – if you don’t want to do it yourself – who is in charge of the TourGuide implementation of your guides (lets call him “TourGuide”-Manager)
    2. Ask someone who knows his stuff what’s the best way to handle the file and directory structure of this addon
    3. Make it clear to the casual reader of your homepage which version is most up to date. Better yet, delete all uploads and keep just the current file on this page

    The next step should then be to create a wiki page for every guide (file) that’s being worked on. On this page the author can publish his versions for testing. The comments can be used to improve the guide, but only the author should change the guide. Once it is deemed finished the “TourGuide”-Manager mentioned above, copies that file into the zip-archive and uploads a new version.
    Maybe you can create a new branch in the wiki called “Addon”, where everything can be handled in a structured way.

    I’m not volunteering to be that “TourGuide”-Manager, but I may be able to tourguide on of your guides once you brought some structure into this project, just FYI. 🙂

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      Jan 15, 2009 @ 14:38

      I appreciate your concernsI appreciate your concerns and your advice, but the suggestions you make are already in place.

      There’s only one version of the addon available for download on the wiki page, you’ll see if you scroll up. I uploaded it myself.

      I’m in the process of re-organizing the horde folder so that it’s exactly the same as the alliance folder. Then it will be as standardized as possible.

      I’ll add new releases myself and keep them updated.

      There is also already a wiki page with a list of works in progress, as mentioned on this wiki page too.

      I know it’s kinda messy right now, but it’s not that messy if you actually follow the instructions on this page 🙂

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        Jan 16, 2009 @ 10:11

        Well you changed quite a bitWell you changed quite a bit while I was posting probably. 🙂

        I tested the new version of your addon, the one with a seperate folder, but now I get an error-message from Cartographer.
        Cartographer has a waypoint addon, which looks exactly like TomTom. It always worked with Tourguide, so you can use Cartographer instead of TomTom for your waypoint needs. Apparently Cartographer takes the zone name from the guide name, because it displays an error, stating that Cartographer doesn’t know a zone named “[Wow-Pro] Jame’s Zangarmarsh (62-64)”. When I put the prefix “[Wow-Pro] Jame’s” at the end of the guide name it doesn’t display an error-message anymore.

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          Jan 16, 2009 @ 13:16

          Yes, it displays an errorYes, it displays an error message even without cartographer, but it still works correctly, right? At least it does for TomTom.

          Anyway, I think I’m gonna try renaming them differently so that those error messages stop.

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            Jan 17, 2009 @ 1:44

            You may be able to renameYou may be able to rename the single zone guides to fix this, but the multi-zone guides (the 21-31 section in the Horde section, for example) will always throw up errors, because TourGuide was designed to work with one zone per guide (it does allow for some crossing between zones), which is why I formatted the first version the way I did.

            The guides will still work (or at most require some minor adjustments), but you’ll still have the errors unless the code is adjusted.

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    Jan 15, 2009 @ 21:24

    The start of the ZangarmarshThe start of the Zangarmarsh Horde guide says: “Accept all quests. There should be 6 here. I need a list of what they are.”

    Report to Shadow Hunter Denjal
    Thick Hydra Scales
    News From Zangarmash
    Menacing Marshfangs
    There’s No Explanation For Fashion
    No More Mushrooms!

    Also, LightHeaded is a huge help with TourGuide; TG links into LH and auto-plots the name and location of each questgiver. It’s REALLY nice, you guys should mention it. 🙂 [I thought this was a default feature of TG when doing the Dun Morogh leveling guide, haha ^^;; ]

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      Jan 15, 2009 @ 22:35

      And now that I’ve just gotAnd now that I’ve just got to Zabra’jin on this character, I’ve found another “again, I need a list of the quests in here.” 🙂

      Stinging the Stingers
      WANTED: Boss Grog’ak
      Wanted: Chieftain Mummaki
      Angling to Beat the Competition
      Burstcap Mushrooms, Mon!
      Spirits of the Feralfen

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        Jan 16, 2009 @ 23:30

        Ah. That would be myThanks! I’ll add those into the guide and remove the notes for the next version. 🙂

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    Jan 16, 2009 @ 2:16

    Nice Guide!!Hey Jame,
    I have both addons installed but im afraid if you do an update, I may miss important stuff from the beginning eg. prequests, things on shopping lists etc.
    So my question is… in upcoming patches or updated for the addon will the guide stay the same in upcoming patches or updates for the addon, or will I be ok to keep using the addon without worrying?
    Thanks again, Gynnome 🙂

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      Jan 16, 2009 @ 11:53

      Well, yes you WILL missWell, yes you WILL miss important stuff if you don’t download the updates, because right now the addon is far from being finished. Lots of guides are missing and almost nothing has been tested.

      There will be lots of improvements, so I recommend updating it regularly.

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    Jan 16, 2009 @ 7:28

    aldor?i was just wondering if there was going to be an aldor version of treokkar for the alliance or not.
    just wondering if i have to farm a lot of eyes 😀

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    Jan 16, 2009 @ 11:13

    Entering the guide in the middleFirst thing to say is thanx to everybody who contributed for that addon which needed a lot of work to be made like that ( and of course to Jame for his guides ).

    I’m posting this here because I think I will use this TourGuide first as it seems to currently include more Aliance guides and I wanted to know what will happen if you start using a guide with a character that isn’t ecaxtly at the start lvl of the guide (for example use the a 12-20 lvl guide with a 15 lvl character). Will he be directed to the lvl 12 quests? Also what happens if you already have completed some of the quests included in the guide-will the be ignored? And finally can you use the addon to get achievents even if you’re higher lvl than the guide? (Of course using guides that include all quests in an area like Jame’s Northrend Guides).

    Thanks again for your time.

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      Jan 16, 2009 @ 11:55

      When you choose a guide youWhen you choose a guide you can then open a list containing all the steps in the guide.

      It auto detects quests you’ve already done or accepted. For the other steps, you have to tick them manually until you reach the point where you’re supposed to be.

      About achievements, level doesn’t have any impact on them. You can follow the guides whether you’re level 1 or level 80.

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    Jan 16, 2009 @ 15:23

    Found one error so the guide “Hillsbrad Foothills (31-32)” You need to get the quest “brother Anton”. that quest requires level 34 to start. And for me, i was level 32 at that moment. So you might want to get that inserted somewhere else 🙂

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    Jan 16, 2009 @ 19:19

    Order QuestionI’ve been utilizing your guides for a looooooooong time now and have a hard time thinking about how I’d level without them. My friends give me a rough time of things because I basically refuse to deviate from your setups. 😀 Thank you so much for all your hard work and effort over the years!!

    I have two questions regarding the TG mod and guides.

    One (rather simple I’m sure) is what is the significance of the quest blocks highlighted in green within the TG quest list.

    My main and major question is this; Is there any specific reason that the ingame TG guide (at this point using Dragonblight) deviates in quest order from your online guide? This bothers me only from the standpoint that I can’t utilize the status frame and quest list properly at this time, unless I deviate from your online guide.

    Specifically, I left off at “Turn in [72] Spirittual Insight, get [72] Elder Mana’loa.” I logged in with TG on, loaded Dragonblight, and started clicking my way down the list. The list stops me at “[73] Into Hostile Territory”, which was avoided in order to fly to Star’s Rest and quest there.

    From SR I went to the Harbor and quested. Shortly I’ll go back to SR, the Temple, and so on, long before I arrive back at the Keep to fly up for “In Hostile”. In the TG, I go through the rest of the Keep and Dawn’s Rest long before I ever quest out of the Harbor.

    From what I can tell, TG tries to kill off entire quest hubs at once, whereas the net guide occasionally jump hubs to hit lower level quests.

    Thanks again for everything you’re doing!

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      Jan 16, 2009 @ 23:11

      You actually got the greenYou actually got the green colouring to show up? Hmm. Never worked for me.

      It indicates that the objective takes place in a “town”; i.e. a quest hub. You’ll find, though, that in some of the later guides I got fed up with it being apparently useless and it no longer appears.

      And… I don’t know. The TG was exactly the same as Jame’s guide when I wrote it. The only reason I can think of for the deviation is that Jame has updated the guide and I hadn’t noticed (Jame, if you could confirm this, it’d be nice. I wrote the TG version a week or two before the Grizzly Hills guide came out).

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        Jan 16, 2009 @ 23:39

        Hmm nope, didn’t do any bigHmm nope, didn’t do any big changes since november.

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          Jan 17, 2009 @ 1:35

          So much for thatSo much for that theory…

          Maybe you loaded the Dragonblight guide that came with TourGuide (ie. not Jame’s one)? I haven’t had a proper look at the new format since I got back (awesome work on that, by the way), but I’m fairly sure that loads the old ones as well, the WoW-Pro ones are down the bottom from what I’ve heard.

          Nothing else I can think of.

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            Jan 22, 2009 @ 0:07

            That’s probably it. When IThat’s probably it. When I first loaded and scrolled through the list, to the bottom, the WoW-Pro only had Outland guides. The only Dragonblight one I saw was the one I picked.

            Either I missed Jame’s one or it wasn’t there.


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    Jan 17, 2009 @ 1:32

    TourGuide EditorDon’t forget to try my TourGuide compiler if you are interested in editing guides.

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    Jan 17, 2009 @ 2:45

    No Problems So FarIve started using the guide on my horde character and it is just brilliant no problems so far 🙂 .
    5 stars to Jame for making such an awesome addon!!!!

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    Jan 17, 2009 @ 5:05

    Nuzz, you’re a hero!Hey Nuzz, I just tried your TourGuide editor while working on Maw’s 1-12 Human leveling guide.

    It’s the bomb, really. That thing makes it so much easier, faster and also lowers the chance of making mistakes by a hundred.

    I love it!

    But you know what would make it the absolute bomb? 2 features, which I’m not sure you can implement, but I’ll ask anyway:

    1. Include class specific tags as an option in your editor? I know it’s not very difficult to add |C|xxxx| at the end of a line, but still, it would save a lot of time if you could automate this in your addon. One little button for each class. Anyway, it’s not that important. The most important would be the next feature.

    2. Could it be possible somehow that while in game to send your current coordinates directly to your editor?

    Let’s say I’m in Elwynn Forest and I’m standing at the area with the boars (41.50, 86.85). I want to add this location in my next objective in your editor.

    Could it be possible to have a plugin working with TomTom, which would allow me to directly coyp/paste the coordinates where I’m at to your editor?

    I know this one sounds very complicated, I’m not even sure it’s possible, but if it is, this would be a huge timesaver.

    Anyway, with or without those features, I highly recommend using Nuzz’s tourguide editor. Once you get used to it, you’ll see how great it is.

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      Jan 20, 2009 @ 7:06

      thank you very much! Ithank you very much! I don’t have much time to post right now but I will comment about the editor:

      1) I could add class-specific tags, but then the file format for the saved project files would change, and I would have to figure out a way to automatically convert them. I haven’t done this before but could figure it out. I might as well add zone specific tags while I am at it.

      2) I really wish there was a way to do this, but I don’t think it would be possible without hacking the actual game, and the blizzard warden program would automatically ban my account for that. If anyone can tell me if this is possible, I will give it a try. I even checked to see if there was a way to copy to the clipboard, and there isn’t. I have been running the game in windowed mode in widescreen, but the game’s resolution isn’t quite as wide as the desktop resolution. What I will do is have the TourGuide editor on the edge of the screen (left side) so I can click on it, then I will 10-key the coordinates, and the TomTom coordinate box will still be visible on the right side of the screen. I would post a screenshot if I had a little more time.

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        Jan 20, 2009 @ 17:56

        About 2) Yea I guessed itAbout 2) Yea I guessed it wouldn’t be possible, but it’s ok. I’m doing exactly as you do for entering coords, it does the job 😉

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    Jan 17, 2009 @ 8:42

    Ally TourGuideI (and I’m sure thousands of others) really appreciate the work being put into Jame’s guide both by himself and all the other people contributing to port his guide into Tourguide style. I just have to ask if there is any way work on Tourguide style Northrend could be bumped up in priority? There is a ton of stuff through Outland already, and Netherstorm/SMV really shouldn’t be needed to reach even 71. I’d think with Wrath being out now a lot of people are leveling toons they already had to 70 through just Northrend content. Just a suggestion.

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    Jan 17, 2009 @ 8:47

    Look I seriously cant get itLook I seriously cant get it 2 work,

    On this webpage is says put the folder in the addons folder…. then in the instructions.txt it says:
    1. Copy all the folders above into your TourGuide folder

    those are 2 different places…..
    anyways, i have tried both, and yes I have edited the .toc file as described in the intructions….. but when wow pro tour guide doesnt show up in the addons nor does it show up ingame inside the tourguide!

    what am I missing?

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      Jan 17, 2009 @ 12:59

      This has been changed longThis has been changed long ago, it’s much simplier than that.

      Please read the installation section again, download the new file, and follow the instructions.

      It can’t be easier. All you have to do is simply put the addons listed above in your addon folder. That’s IT. No modification of the files needed.

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    Jan 17, 2009 @ 23:14

    What can I say, I’m anWhat can I say, I’m an altoholic… now I’ve been playtesting the level 21-31 Horde guide. 🙂 Have a little feedback.

    -All instances of “Crossroads” need to be changed to “The Crossroads” to auto-complete.
    -All instances of “Zoram’Gar Outpost” need to be changed to “Zoram’gar Outpost” to auto-complete. That is, the g needs to be made lowercase.
    -We are never told to take the quest “Souvenirs of Death” on our first trip to Tarren Mill, but we are told to turn it in after the fourth “Battle of Hillsbrad” quest.
    -We are told to take “Elixir of Agony” twice… once before leaving Tarren Mill the first time, and once when we arrive at Tarren Mill the second time.
    -“Grimtotem Spying”: It would be nice if we could add coordinates for the three notes for TomTom to plot. Having done all these quests before, I don’t usually poke my nose into the [?] extra tooltip unless I don’t have a coordinate. Directions are nice, but coordinates would be better. 🙂
    -Toward the end of the guide, it says “Turn in all quests – I need confirmation of the quests to turn in.” You got -almost- all of them. 🙂 Just missing “Wind Rider.”

    And my biggest request/feedback is as follows….

    When Jame inserts a “level check”–that is, when he says “You should be level X by now”–PLEASE DON’T LEAVE THAT OUT. There was a point in Stonetalon when I was told to hearth. I raised an eyebrow, looked ahead at the next step, and saw “Train” as I expected, then loaded up the web guide to see I was supposed to be level 24 half a level ago. Seeing the end of the guide coming so soon at level 29, I loaded the web guide again and saw that I was supposed to be level 30 at the end of the escort I JUST finished.

    Don’t leave the level checks out.
    Do not leave the level checks out.
    Please, please, do not leave the level checks out.

    I don’t know how I’m falling behind–it’s the fifth character I’ve leveled through Jame’s guides and it’s the first time it’s happening, and I’m NOT skipping content–but when I do fall behind, I need to KNOW so I can grind out the rest of the level! ^^; It’s not so tough to stick a note in there that says I should be level X.

    Thanks again for the guides, the addon, and all the work going into the project! 🙂

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      Jan 18, 2009 @ 1:20

      Thanks for theThanks for the feedback!

      The bugs should be fixed for the next update (I just need to play around with my files a little, they’re still in the old format).

      I originally didn’t put in the level checks because I thought they were superfluous, but guess I was wrong. Thanks for the heads up.

      On a related note, I’m out of town for a day again, I’ll be back with the update I keep promising some time Monday or Tuesday (I hope).

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    Jan 18, 2009 @ 2:41

    quests different?Hey i was following your guide and im at 53 when i got the addon. i was sort of confused because the guide is a lot different than your guide on this site. Also, you can’t use different waypoints such as cartographer you have to get tomtom.
    I killed a warlock once, then credits started rolling and it said “Congradulations, you have beat World of Warcraft!” And then I died from Dots.

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    Jan 18, 2009 @ 2:43

    Oops!I see the Jame’s alliance leveling guides are on the bottom. sorry i didn’t pay attention.
    I killed a warlock once, then credits started rolling and it said “Congradulations, you have beat World of Warcraft!” And then I died from Dots.

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    Jan 18, 2009 @ 19:32

    ScrollThough there isn’t a scrollbar in the UI, you have to scroll down to the WoW-Pro section.

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    Jan 18, 2009 @ 23:58

    I have a different listHi, I installed the addon alliance version, but instead of seeing the guides listed above, I see this:

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      Jan 20, 2009 @ 23:12

      As mentioned in theAs mentioned in the explanation above, you have to [b]SCROLL DOWN[/b] this list to see the wow-pro guides. They are at the bottom of the list.

      Sorry, can’t find a way to make them appear on top for now.

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    Jan 19, 2009 @ 9:24

    starting addon version partway through a guideIs it possible to start the addon from where your up too in the guide? or do i need to wait till i get to the next section?

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      Jan 19, 2009 @ 12:48

      Yes it’s not a problem atYes it’s not a problem at all. No need to wait for the next section.

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        Jan 19, 2009 @ 19:17

        The only thing to note aboutThe only thing to note about this is, due to the way TourGuide operates, if you have not had TourGuide loaded (even without a guide) while you were doing other parts of the guide, you will have to manually check off the quests you’ve done already.

        If TourGuide has been loaded, it will check off the quests that it knows you completed, but you’ll have to check off any travel tasks and notes to get to the correct point in the guide.

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    Jan 19, 2009 @ 11:32

    Dependency missing ErrorI downloaded TomTom, TourGuide, WoW-Pro Tourguide Alliance & Lightheaded (Lightheaded A,B,C,D,etc).

    But when I log into WoW and check my addons, I see the dependency missing next to WoW-Pro Tourguide.

    I have checked and triple checked but I cannot locate the error of my ways. My other addons are working great. My only problem is with the WoW-Pro Tourguide Alliance.

    I appreciate any help. TYVM! 🙂

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      Jan 19, 2009 @ 12:56

      Hmm not sure I understandHmm not sure I understand the problem.

      The only dependency for the WoW-Pro TourGuide Alliance addon is TourGuide.

      If you installed TourGuide correctly in your addons folder, and if you enable the addon in the list, then the dependency should be fulfilled.

      Are you sure you installed TourGuide correctly?

      1. Re-download TourGuide
      2. Extract it
      3. Put the TourGuide folder in your /addons folder
      4. Launch wow, go to character selection screen, click on “addons” on the bottom left corner.
      5. Tick the box for TourGuide

      If you do that, the dependency SHOULD not be a problem.

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    Jan 19, 2009 @ 23:45

    Zone ProblemI think this is more a problem with TourGuide than it is with the guides, but when I use the Hellfire guide, several objectives that attempt to take you somewhere on the zone don’t work because it cannot find the zone “[WoW-Pro] Jame’s Hellfire”. Other than ask Tekkub to add a feature to name guides independent of Zone, I’m not sure what can be done to fix that.

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      Jan 20, 2009 @ 0:06

      It’s alright, I’m going toIt’s alright, I’m going to fix it tonight.

      All you have to do is put the zone name at the start of the file name.

      Like for example:

      Hellfire Penninsula (WoW-Pro | Jame’s Horde 60-62)

      If you name it like that, problem is gone. And that’s what I’m about to do. It’s tedious work but hey, whatever it takes.

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    Jan 20, 2009 @ 0:21

    TourGuide perfectionI just finished writing Maw’s Human 1-12 Leveling Guide. I encourage everyone to try it.

    With this guide I want to set the standard for the quality I want for the addon version of our leveling guides.

    Here’s what you’ll get:

    [*]TomTom arrow for EVERY step requiring you to move, even short distances.
    [*]Auto-completion for 99% of the steps. When it’s not an auto-complete step, I actually mention it and tell you to close the step once you finish reading.
    [*]class quests included
    [*]optional quests included
    [*]Even giving directions to the nearest repair NPC when the guide mentions to “Sell junk and repair”
    [*]Item box appearing whenever an item needs to be used from your bags
    [*]Information compressed down to the minimum – just enough to go through every step smoothly

    Should be a lot of fun and very relaxing to follow the guide in this addon format if everyone helps to reach this level of quality for each guide section. Not to mention, they will be unbeatable in terms of leveling speed 😉

    I’ll upload the file a little later tonight. Stay tuned.

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      Jan 20, 2009 @ 17:11

      And here I spent ages makingAnd here I spent ages making maps for that guide!

      Well, they probably helped you in the making of the addon though 😛

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        Jan 20, 2009 @ 18:10

        Sure did. Can’t wait to letSure did. Can’t wait to let you try the addon version, you’ll not be disappointed.

        Should upload it tonight later. Gotta go eat!

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    Jan 20, 2009 @ 6:51

    Possible errorI started trying out the alliance 30-40 guide on the tourguide addon. Think I might have found an error. After you ding to level 32 it takkes you throught he steps to go to Booty Bay, then you are to fly to Darkshore to turn in a quest and pick up another. I spent a good 30 minutes running around Darkshore looking for where I was supposed to turn in the said quest and pick up the other. After that time I realized I didn’t have the quest at all to turn in and never had been told to pick up another version of that quest. So I think myabe and extra step or 2 got repeated when coding this guide. Other than that the guide is working wonderfully great job.


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    Jan 20, 2009 @ 7:55

    A miss stepIn the guide “Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide (50-60)” at Everlook, it’s missing a step in the quest “Are we there yeti” when you complete part 1 and hand it in it jumps straight past part 2. This isn’t the only quest it does it on, it has done it on a few. just thought i would mention it, hope it helps with ironing out the bugs.

    It’s a good add on, besides the bugs 😉 , so thanks 4 the great guides.

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    Jan 20, 2009 @ 19:42

    Oh noesKay basicallyyyy…

    Im on the 27-31 (or w/e the levels are) section in the guide (thousand needles) and Because im level 29 (which on the wow pro non addon guide **that i was following before the addon came out** i wasj ust starting in thousand needles)

    but the addon seems to think i should be doing ‘The sacred flame Pt. 2’ and i dont know how to go back to earlya 1k needles stages 🙁 any ideas?

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      Jan 20, 2009 @ 21:47

      “The Sacred Flame Pt.1” is“[url=]The Sacred Flame Pt.1[/url]” is accepted at [url=]Zangen Stonehoof[/url] in Thunder Bluff. This quest should already been completed in the 3 visit to Ashenvale, but if you havn’t, you’ll need to do the following things:

      [b]1.[/b] Kill [url=]Laughing Sisters[/url] around 60,51 in Ashenvale and get Filled Etched Phial.

      [b]2.[/b] Use the Filled Etched Phial at 60,73 in Ashenvale.

      [b]3.[/b] Go back to [url=]Zangen Stonehoof[/url], turn the quest in and get part 2.

      [i][b]EDIT:[/b] I actually couldn’t find any steps in the guide saying to do this quest. This might needs to be fixed.[/i]

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    Jan 21, 2009 @ 11:07

    To be honest I wasn’tTo be honest I wasn’t expecting much when I downloaded this, especially after using zygors addon. To my surprise, this addon works great! Its simple, to the point and easy to use. I actually prefer this addon over zygors.

    Its like all the work from the guides are fit into a small little package so cheers to community for putting the work together!

    I actually started using the addon at 61, but at 62 I used it completely and followed everything while not getting involved in instances like at 61. 62-63 my played time level was 2 hours and 10 mins. Don’t know if thats terrific but i thought it was great even though being a dark knight definitely sped things up a bit ( the mount, hardly if any downtime with the spec james suggested and aoeing mobs that were needed for quests). So gj!

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      Jan 21, 2009 @ 12:45

      Thank you for your feedbackThank you for your feedback 😉

      And keep in mind, the addons are still a work in progress, we’ll improve them until they reach perfection. I’m about to release a “perfect” 1-12 Human guide to let everyone try it and see what they can expect from us in the future in terms of quality.

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    Jan 21, 2009 @ 13:41

    Is there a page where oneIs there a page where one can see if has been updated? Or perhaps add a date on the Guide list at the end of the page? like this: Guide 1 *new* yyyy-mm-dd, Guide 2 *updated* yyyy-mm-dd

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      Jan 21, 2009 @ 15:10

      Not yet, but I’ll add itNot yet, but I’ll add it soon. Probably later today.

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    Jan 22, 2009 @ 6:02

    The Horde version has beenThe Horde version has been updated!

    Changes include:
    [*]The final Ashenvale section of the 21-31 section
    [*]Level check notes
    [*]Complete revamp of guide naming (I’ll update the wiki to reflect this) to prevent all the zone errors
    [*]Minor bug fixes[/list]

    The reason that the 21-31 guide isn’t in one large file is because otherwise it will throw out zone errors, due to TG being designed for single zone guides. The new naming system is a compromise between the two.

    The download link for the WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Horde file now leads to FileFront (and is a .rar), so if you could fix it, that’d be awesome, Jame 🙂

    Sorry it took so long!

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      Jan 22, 2009 @ 7:45

      Awesome, I’ll get right onAwesome, I’ll get right on that. I just updated the alliance file by the way 😉

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    Jan 22, 2009 @ 8:57

    Earlier I reported howEarlier I reported how played time for 62-63 was 2 hours and 10 mins with a DK and the use of the addon. 65-66 followed nothing but the guide+2 wanted quests (no instances) and my played time was 2 hours and 30 mins. Just wanted to post that for those who had longer times and can see the effectiveness of this+ a deathknight class

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    Jan 22, 2009 @ 14:52

    Maw’s Human Leveling GuideMaw’s Human Leveling Guide (1-12) doesn’t appear in the guide meny in-game. However, the .lua file is in “Interface/AddOns/WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Alliance”, so this is kind of odd.

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      Jan 22, 2009 @ 15:33

      Fixed. Re download the .zipFixed. Re download the .zip 🙂

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        Jan 22, 2009 @ 16:38

        Still not working.Still not working.

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          It does work for me.It does work for me.

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          Jan 22, 2009 @ 17:24

          Delete your TourGuide folderDelete your TourGuide folder and the WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Alliance folder.

          Re-download them and re-install them.

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            Jan 22, 2009 @ 17:39

            I have already doneI have already done that.

            Still didn’t work 🙁

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              Jan 22, 2009 @ 17:44

              Beats me, anyone has an ideaBeats me, anyone has an idea what could cause this?

              Try to completely log out of wow. Re-start it, create a new character and check again.

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                Jan 22, 2009 @ 18:05

                Currently the file linked atCurrently the file linked at the top of the page WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Alliance file does not include Maw’s guide, nor the Grizzly Hills guide. Even if you have it in your folder, the .xml file will not call it when you load the addon in-game. You have to add the in any editor (Notepad for example) to the .xml file or the addon won\'t call it. I\'ve done this over the last few days with some of the raw and unfinished guides listed on the works in progress page and it works fantastic. I\'m currently running my 3rd character through Grizzly Hills and wanted to see how it would compare to Alt-Tabing to read each section. The difference in leveling time is incredible, so thank you to all for all your hard work!

                Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience...

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                  Jan 22, 2009 @ 19:32

                  I just re-downloaded theI just re-downloaded the file again, extracted it. Double-checked, and it’s in there:

                  000_1_12_Maws_Human_starter.lua – check

                  .xml script:




                  Are you guys sure you’re downloading from this link?


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                    Jan 22, 2009 @ 19:44

                    Yeah, it’s there. ButYeah, it’s there. But somehow it doens’t appear in the in-game guide menu.

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                      Jan 22, 2009 @ 19:48

                      It’s at the bottom of theIt’s at the bottom of the list below the default tourguide zones, and the exact name is:

                      Elwynn Forest (WoW-Pro | Maw’s Human 1-12)

                      If that helps.

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                      Jan 22, 2009 @ 19:51


                      Fixed it.

                      DowloadedYes! 😀

                      Fixed it.

                      Dowloaded the whole TourGuide (++) using another internet browser, aswell as deleting my WoW-pro Horde file.

                      One of these things made it work.

                      Thanks for the help everyone! 😉

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      Jan 22, 2009 @ 17:29

      I’ve noticed the same thingI’ve noticed the same thing this morning. I did a little checking, I think the problem is that they are not listed in the .xml file. It’s fairly simple to fix and I’m sure was just a simple oversite 😉 .

      Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience…

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      Jan 23, 2009 @ 3:25

      Maw’s rightMaw is right, his guide doesn’t appear in the add-on.

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    Jan 22, 2009 @ 17:23

    I just released a newI just released a new version and added my first contribution. The quality is very high, I recommend everyone to try it. (Maw’s Human 1-12 is the one I did)

    More info here on my latest [url=]blog entry[/url].

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    Jan 22, 2009 @ 18:57

    WoWMatrixI dunno if any of you guys have WoWMatrix, but it’s a great outside-game bit of free technology that allows you to update your addons, and get new ones, without any of the hassle of actually finding the addon, unzipping it, putting it in the folder etc.

    And this works fine for Tourguide, TomTom and lightheaded. However, all the actual guide addons are not on there. If people deem it to be okay, I think it might be worth spamming [url=]here[/url]to get them to put the WoWPro addons on. It would make updating and finding new guides a lot easier.

    I hope my latest technology suggestion goes down better than my last one 😛

    EDIT: Oh, and don’t get too annoyed Jame, but it has small text advertisements for paid guides at the top of the screen =P

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      Jan 22, 2009 @ 19:45

      I’d rather not.

      While theI’d rather not.

      While the idea is nice, what it will do is make a large amount of people visit the site less. If all they have to do is use wow-matric to udpate the addon, odds are that they’ll never bother to come here again to post comments/feedback.

      Plus, the last thing I want to do is direct them to a site plastered with paid leveling guides ^^

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        Jan 22, 2009 @ 20:46

        Good point with the traffic,Good point with the traffic, I suppose.

        It all depends on how you look at. It could either be a disaster, or a great way to introduce new people to the site that might not otherwise visit(‘If you enjoyed ‘Maw’s Level1-12 human levelling guide, you may also enjoy… WowPro’s Lolcat thread) 😛

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          Jan 22, 2009 @ 20:56

          lol, our lolcat thread willlol, our lolcat thread will take over the world I tell you!

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        Jan 22, 2009 @ 20:50

        I also think it’s better toI also think it’s better to keep the addons local on WoW-pro, because in this new high-technology era 😀 it’s important to keep the people on the web-page. This way the good old traditional text-format guides don’t fall into oblivion 😉 After all those are the foundation stones of the addons…

        (not counting my googlecode page of course, it’s for development and hosting reasons :P)

        What has to be done, is advertising on community forums and sites, so the people come to WoW-pro and then download the addons. At least that’s how I see it.

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    Jan 23, 2009 @ 0:42

    Having trouble.I’ve just entered Grizzly Hills and for some reason I can’t seem to find the zone guide for that area. The 75_77_Grizzly_Hills_Jame_Northrend.lua file is in the Wow-Pro_TourGuide_Horde folder but when I scroll through the guides I either miss it (probs) ot it doesnt appear. Any help would be much appreciated.

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      Jan 23, 2009 @ 2:51

      It should be the last guideIt should be the last guide at the bottom of the list, called:

      Grizzly Hills (WoW-Pro | Jame’s 75-77)

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        Jan 23, 2009 @ 3:50

        For some reason it’s notFor some reason it’s not there…every other guide I can see but the last one on the list is the Dragonblight guide :O

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          Jan 24, 2009 @ 7:18

          I’ve just checked, there’sI’ve just checked, there’s an error in the code.

          To fix it, open up your World of Warcraft directory, then head to Interface>Addons>WoWPro_TourGuide-Horde.

          Open up the guides.xml file, then find the line with Grizzly Hills in it. It says:


          The bolded ‘v’ shouldn’t be there, delete it and save the file, and the guide should now load properly.

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            Jan 24, 2009 @ 15:58

            Fixed it and uploaded newFixed it and uploaded new .zip

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    Jan 23, 2009 @ 3:32

    Northrend Alliance guides not showingHello,

    I had just downloaded the Alliance version of your guides for TourGuide, however all the Northrend, save Grizzly Hills, is not there. I was wondering if this was because they are not in yet, or if there is something wrong w/ my download.

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      Jan 24, 2009 @ 7:14

      Yep, that’s intended. TheYep, that’s intended. The post actually contains a Guide List, it shows what should and shouldn’t be there.

      We’ll get it in eventually, so hang in there!

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    Jan 23, 2009 @ 4:16

    The guides are in and theThe guides are in and the .xml is correct. So I have no idea why they don’t show for certain people.

    I’m guessing it has something to do with TourGuide’s temp memory.

    Try this:

    1. Delete the TourGuide, the WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Alliance and the WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Horde folders from your /addon folder.

    2. Launch wow, make sure those addons have disappeared from your addons list in the character selection screen.

    3. Exit wow.

    4. Download the folders again (TourGuide and WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Alliance), put them in the addon folder and then try.

    It should work if you do that.

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      Jan 23, 2009 @ 11:08

      Deleting the WTF-Folder inDeleting the WTF-Folder in the World of Warcraft root folder should probably fix it… But this will also delete all settings for other addons and WoW-itself.

      Maybe it’s enough to delete every file in this folder that has TourGuide in it’s name. Mostly .lua and .lua.bak.

      I do not know if it works! 😛


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      Jan 23, 2009 @ 19:25

      My GuessMy guess is that they are not scrolling down to see the guides. Since the TourGuide interface does not have a scrollbar in the guides listing, they are probably only seeing the 15 or so guides that show up (which are TourGuide’s built in guides) and wondering where the rest are.

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        Jan 24, 2009 @ 18:22

        You can use the mouse wheelYou can use the mouse wheel to scroll down, but it is still not very intuitive. We just made a fix to the addon module so that it would remove all of the original guides from the list and then add Jame’s Guides, so you won’t have to scroll down.

        Check out our new website!

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    Jan 23, 2009 @ 18:47

    Getting the guides to show up (my fix)I had trouble getting the guides to show up so what I did was extract the leveling guide folder to your desktop, go to your wow/addon/TourGuide folder and manually delete the files WITHIN the guides. So delete all the files but not the folder…every file.

    Then go to the folder that you extracted to your destkop and copy/paste the files (not the folder) to the wow/addon/tourguide/HordeGuides or whatever it’s called. When i copy/pasted the actual files and not just the folder they showed up for me.

    Hope this helps somebody!

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    Jan 25, 2009 @ 0:57

    Minor errors/improvements?Hi Jame, been using your guides for ages, they’re great! I have downloaded this addon now that I have gone to outland, I am using the Hellfire Peninsular (60-62) guide, and have noticed a few things.

    After you turn in [62] The Assassin, the guide tells you to go to Falcon watch, but there is no arrow showing the direction to go, I know a lot of users will have addons like Cartographer, but I don’t as it has been causing my game to crash, so maybe skipping the “Go to Falcon Watch” part and just have it go straight to the person in Falcon Watch you need to speak to? As once you enter Falcon Watch an arrow appear pointing the way to the person on top of the tower there.
    Once in Falcon Watch the order it tells you to get the quests in is a bit annoying, it tells you to speak to the flight master, then go to the lower level and get all the quests there, and then go back to the top level to get a quest right next to the flight master.
    Once you have all the quests in Falcon watch the arrow doesn’t re-appear(sp?), the quest box tells you to kill the stoneclaws, but there is no arrow pointing the way. I know if you read the quest info it tells you where to go, but it breaks with the rest of the guide, and it does not show you where ‘Blacktalon the Savage is’ or give the co-ords for it.

    Later in the guide after you turn in [61] Smooth as Butter, the quest box says “Unyielding Knight” and the description is “-until they drop ‘A Mysterious Tome\'”. There is no arrow pointing where to go, and it does not say who to kill. I had to check your guide online to find out I had to go to the Expedition Armory.

    I hope you find my comments constructive, I do find the addon is excellent overall, it has definately improved my playing experience!

    Many Thanks for all your hard work!

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      Jan 25, 2009 @ 1:24

      Sure do. The Hellfire partSure do. The Hellfire part hasn’t been thoroughly tested yet, we’ll fix them all, no worries. Thanks for your feedback 😉

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      Jan 27, 2009 @ 11:06

      All these things have beenAll these things have been fixed. So, once I get the issue with the guides not loading resolved, it’ll be available!

      Again, thanks for your feedback.

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        Jan 27, 2009 @ 22:26

        Black cat, for now the bestBlack cat, for now the best way to go about it is to name the guides following this format:

        Zone Name (WoW-Pro | Guide name Level Range)

        For example:

        Hellfire Penninsula (WoW-Pro | Jame’s 60-62)

        That way the zone is detected, no error message, and we still know it’s a wow-pro guide.

        That’s until Tekkub decides to make his latest alpha version go live, which should be soon.

        In this latest alpha, you can name guides like this:

        [WoW-Pro | Author & Guide name here] Zone Name (level – level)

        It will look much neater. But for now this doesn’t work, so we have to go with the other naming format I showed above.

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    Jan 25, 2009 @ 5:17

    Zul’Drak guideHi! This addon is excellent, yesterday i finished Grizzly Hills (alliance) with it. Looking the others guides i found a Zul’Drak guide, it doesn’t show if its for alliance or horde. Have anyone have tried it?

    Thanks in advance

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      Jan 25, 2009 @ 5:55

      Usually the only guides thatUsually the only guides that show up are the ones that are for your faction (Alliance or Horde) so if you’re saying you finished the alliance Grizzly Hills guide, then the Zul’Drak is probably alliance too.

      No I have not tried it, but some of my friends told me it’s great. It may be a while before Jame’s Zul’Drak guides are released, and even longer for them to be put into the addons, so I’d go ahead and try it.

      Oh and hey, let me know how it goes. 😉

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        Jan 31, 2009 @ 19:28

        Finished it and also theFinished it and also the Sholazar Basin guide, they are great! Got the 2 100% quest achievement, they are a little buggy (bad coords or a empty step in the sholazar basin guide for example).

        I recommend them if you don’t want to wait for Jame guides.

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    Jan 25, 2009 @ 7:05

    WOWThis addon is AMAZING! I think it’s awesome that you put this much work into something you give away for free. Thanks so much for all your effort and I plan on donating soon. 🙂

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    Jan 25, 2009 @ 7:57

    Error in Alliance 50-60 guideJust doing the Alliance Guide in the addon and found that it still has the old route from Eastern Kingdoms to Auburdine.

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    Slaughter xMode
    Jan 25, 2009 @ 22:15

    Any date I can expect to getAny date I can expect to get the Jame’s guides for 21-60 (Horde Guides)?

    Other than that, I LOVE the addons and stuff, thanks a lot!

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      Jan 27, 2009 @ 11:04

      The 21-31 sections should beThe 21-31 sections should be appearing; they exist, but there is apparently an error somewhere along the line. I’m working on getting this fixed ASAP. 🙁

      As for the rest, there’s no current ETA. I’m a bit busy with RL stuff, but I may be able to get a new guide up soon. Fingers crossed. It is being working on, though!

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        Slaughter xMode
        Jan 27, 2009 @ 16:42

        Awesome, sounds good! IAwesome, sounds good! I completely understand where you coming from though, I dont expect you guys to sit and work constantly while you actually have your own life to deal with.

        Its not like we can’t just come to the site and follow the guides like normal though.

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          Jan 28, 2009 @ 6:26

          Well some people haveWell some people have rerolled a Troll/Orc and found that the 1-12 addon is ALOT better than following it on the site, and now they are lazy! This is cruel and must be stopped! Haha I think I’m drunk, but that’s just my take on why everyone “Needs” the 31-60 Horde guides 😉

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    Jan 27, 2009 @ 11:14

    Okay, the issue should beOkay, the issue [i]should[/i] be fixed. I’ve uploaded the new file (in .zip format this time!), which should load the guides properly, plus all the guides are tagged properly and there are some fixes and tweaks for the Outland guides.

    The link now leads to the updated file on FileFront.

    Enjoy! 😉

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      Jan 27, 2009 @ 22:37

      Uploaded it on wow-proUploaded it on wow-pro 😉

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        Jan 28, 2009 @ 5:16

        And, a small update for theAnd, a small update for the TourGuide_Alliance file:

        * Added Jame’s Borean Tundra 70-72 | Coder: NLX3647 | Quality: Unknown
        * Removed superfluous files from the package.
        * Fixed naming on Outland guides to remove zone detection errors.

        I won’t have the chance to playtest the new Borean Tundra file (my highest level alliance character is ~20, and fun as they are, I don’t have the inclination to level another DK), so I don’t know how good it is.

        As always, the link now leads to filefront. Enjoy the new file (I’ll get a proper update done one of these days :?).

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          Jan 29, 2009 @ 1:01

          Awesome. Uplading it toAwesome. Uplading it to wow-pro right away!

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            Jan 29, 2009 @ 19:03

            I just downloaded the newI just downloaded the new set of WoW-Pro files in order to use the brand new Alliance Borean Tundra one, and found some early errors. If I try writing them down and reporting them here later, I know I’ll forget or lose the piece of paper.

            – Upon first loading up WoW, the Borean Tundra guide wasn’t listed. I checked the Guides.xml file and the file name is wrong (it’s missing the “jame_” part I believe. I fixed it and got it working.
            – There are two cases of turning in [71] Notify Arlos, one directly after accepting the quest, and the second one in the proper spot.

            I’ll report more errors as I find them, it looks like I’m the first one testing it since Jame’s post about uploading it was a mere 5 hours ago (give or take a couple/several hours if my time zone settings are off).

            — Edit —
            Alright, so I’ve reached Fizzcrank and started on the quests there now. Perhaps I’m being picky after successfully using the Outland WoW-Pro ones, and I’m thankful that the author of this contribution to the AddOn did write it, but I’ve come across several things so far. (I guess that’s why things need testing though!)

            – “Death From Above” quest name missing for auto-complete (the quest object |QO| is there, but it won’t complete without the quest name itself listed too).
            – “A Mission Statement” does not auto-complete as it is a turn-in only quest. (In fact, there is an accept and complete quest step in the guide, which could cause some confusion when it doesn’t auto-complete.)
            – After turning in “The Ultrasonic Screwdriver” to Crafty Wobblesprocket and getting “Master and Servant”, a bad order is used for the next 3 quest acceptances (the one AT Crafty – Dirty, Stinkin’ Snobolds! – is not listed next, when you’re at that NPC anyway).
            – Doesn’t explain jumping down into the water to get “Get Me Outa Here!” – might be important.
            – There should be a middle step for the escort quest, before it tells you to turn it in (which should come after “Bonker Togglevolt escorted to safety.”).
            – Several quest completion objectives don’t have coordinates. I plan to go back over the guide .lua and figure out which ones need coordinates after I finish Borean Tundra, or perhaps I will start writing down coordinates as I come across missing ones.
            – When starting on the quests to the east of Fizzcrank, it does not warn users that there are 3 goals to complete simultaneously. The point of the guide is to do multiple things at once over one route – by doing one at a time, it becomes less efficient.

            – Finally, the order of some quests where I’m at now are off and confusing:

            > Step order in AddOn:
            >>> ! Finding Pilot Tailspin
            >>> ! A Little Bit of Spice
            >>> [Complete] Lefty Loosey, Righty Tighty
            >>> ? Master and Servant
            >>> ? Finding Pilot Tailspin
            >>> [Complete] A Little Bit of Spice
            >>> ? A Little Bit of Spice
            > Proper guide order:
            >>> ! Finding Pilot Tailspin
            >>> [Complete] Lefty Loosey, Righty Tighty
            >>> [Complete] What’s the Matter with the Transmitter?
            >>> ? Finding Pilot Tailspin
            >>> ! A Little Bit of Spice
            >>> [Complete] A Little Bit of Spice
            >>> ? A Little Bit of Spice

            I know this seems like a lot already, but it just seems necessary to keep the guide efficient (after all, that’s the reason they are being ported to AddOn form now, right?).

            PS: I hope this is the right place to report these bugs/inefficiencies. If not, please let me know.

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              Jan 29, 2009 @ 23:25

              Thanks for theThanks for the feedback!

              I’ve gone and fixed all the specific instances you mentioned; I’ll need more information to fix the rest (I’m a die-hard hordie and I’ve got no idea about most of the alliance quests). Quest names is enough (for the most part).

              It’ll all be fixed in the next update.

              Don’t worry about how many bugs you find, report ’em all, so we get rid of them all!

              And yes, this is the right place to report this stuff.

              Once again, thanks for your help.

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                Jan 30, 2009 @ 16:05

                Update on Borean TundraSo I was going through the Borean Tundra guide some more (the addon version of course), and got frustrated at the number of problems with it. I realize it needs testing, and I don’t want to disrespect the writer, but it was riddled with issues.

                Since about 35% through the guide, I’ve started revamping it as I play. Certain quests that have goals in several different spots, I’ve separated out so that it points to each spot as a separate step (and auto-completes when finished each step), and steps that involve doing several things at once have the other activities mentioned in the notes on the first/future steps of such cases.

                I also decided to add coordinates to the closest Repair NPC each time the guide asks you to do so, like Jame wanted (and I believe did for Maw’s 1-12, right?).

                There is one issue I am having though:

                When doing the quests for Thassarian (Death Night near Death’s Stand), there are 2 markers that show up (I believe LightHeaded is the addon that puts these in? Either way, I have LightHeaded and TomTom both running). The one that the game seems to think is the correct position, and the coordinates in the notes of the guide. It happens to prioritize the former, so it’s always pointing to near the teleporter to where you go for Last Rites, rather than the actual NPC you want. Is there a way to prioritize the one you want so the arrow will point to the correct NPC? If I hadn’t run through Borean Tundra before, I might have been very confused.

                Anyway, as for my revamping, if you’d like the finalized version when I’m done, you’re welcome to it. If it seems disrespectful to revamp without permission or anything like that, I’d be fine with just using it as a personal version. I just don’t like the amount of creative license the writer seemed to take, it doesn’t feel like Jame’s guide.

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                  Jan 31, 2009 @ 5:38

                  You’re perfectly alrightYou’re perfectly alright revamping the guide, and I would like a copy once you’re done. Like I’ve said before, I’m a hordie, so I haven’t even tried to write any of the alliance part yet.

                  Remember for those quest blocks, if you have several C objectives in a row, TG will automatically track all of them.

                  As for the Thassarian quests, I’m not sure, unfortunately. I’ve had coords mapping in the wrong spot before, but never two coords. Try disabling LightHeaded and see if the extra coords go away. LightHeaded, as far as I know, only puts in coords for accept and turn-in objectives; is this what you’re referring to?

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                    Jan 31, 2009 @ 8:49

                    Yeah, I’m referring to questYeah, I’m referring to quest accepts and turn-ins.

                    Disabling LightHeaded would turn off the extraneous and erroneous coordinate, but it helps a lot more than it hinders when running through the guides in general.

                    Also, TG may automatically track them, but it doesn’t give you any explanation on how to do them unless you right click the current step to open the step-tracker and hover over the next step or two to check. I think that’s more work than one should expect of a user when the point of the guide is to streamline the process.

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                      Jan 31, 2009 @ 11:14

                      Hmm, whenever a LightheadedHmm, whenever a Lightheaded coord was erroneous for me, I simply added coords as a note to the step and it overwrote the LightHeaded coords.

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                      I have no idea why it won’tI have no idea why it won’t overwrite. I thought it was supposed to, and I’m pretty sure Tekkub’s “how to edit” page says it’s supposed to as well, but it just isn’t doing it for me.

                      Both coordinate sets are there even if I don’t give any coordinates at all, and it always prioritizes to the wrong one. It’s frustrating since the point of revamping it was supposed to make it all correct and now I’m coming across things that just won’t work either way. 🙁

                      Complete-only quests that you don’t accept first are another example of this, I can’t figure out how to make them auto-complete.

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                  Jan 31, 2009 @ 11:15

                  That’s actually a great wayThat’s actually a great way to help. Enhancing the versions of the previous coders until we reach perfection.

                  So of course, please share your version once you’re done 🙂

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    Jan 28, 2009 @ 13:41

    missing outlands guidesthe horde version download seems to be missing the outlands guides

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      Jan 29, 2009 @ 1:17

      Hmm, you’re right. I don’tHmm, you’re right. I don’t know why… at any rate, I’ve changed the link back to the working filefront version, hopefully this can be amended soon.


      At any rate, thanks for telling us, I don’t think I’d have noticed otherwise.

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    Jan 28, 2009 @ 18:45

    Help!!I have done everything thats asked as far as downloads are concerned. My question is, where are the other guides? I click on “guides” and all I see is guides from “Dun Morogh(1-11)” to “Desolace(33-34)” being the last on the page. I have tried right-click scroll, as well as left-click scroll to try and scroll the guides, to no avail. No Jame, no Snokeflake, etc…Is it because I’m lvl 1 so thats all it’ll show till I get higher or is it operator error?

    Thank you in advance!!

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      Jan 29, 2009 @ 1:27

      Have you made sure that theHave you made sure that the addon is enabled (you may need to turn on “Enable out of date addons”)?

      Otherwise, you may be able to scroll with the keyboard arrows or the page up/down key (never tried, personally, I’ve always used the mousewheel).

      The other option is to go into the TourGuide addon folder and delete the TourGuide_Alliance folder (this will cause the stock guides to not load), this is a bit of a temporary fix though.

      Hope this helps.

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        Jan 29, 2009 @ 1:50

        Well……I tried the option of going into the Tourguide addon folder and deleted the Alliance portion of the folder, and it seemed to work…somewhat. At first, pretty much everything showed minus Jame’s guides. I clcked out of the window, opened it back up and there they all sat. So, short of bowing to you claiming “I’m not worthy!!”, I decided to do the same for the Horde side of the folder(Hordie at heart lol). When I logged back in, all that was there was the “SSO Dailies” guide??? I’m beginning to think this just isnt something thats gonna work for me. I’ll hold out a few days and see if my luck changes, if not, thank you so much for at least trying.

        Again, thank you.

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          Jan 29, 2009 @ 3:17

          The SSO dailies guide is aThe SSO dailies guide is a relic of the BC days, it’s a neutral guide that should load for both factions.

          Sounds like you’ve got the alliance guides working okay, with the horde ones, there’s either an error in the Guides.xml file (head to InterfaceAddonsWoW-Pro_TourGuide_Horde and check it for any discrepancies) or you don’t have the addon enabled (check in the bottom left corner on the character selection screen).

          Hopefully this’ll work.

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    Jan 28, 2009 @ 19:14

    Ok…..I just tried a suggestion from Jame(delete files and re-install), still not working. I use a ball instead of a more tradional mouse, does that matter?

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    Jan 28, 2009 @ 20:52

    Howling Fjord GuideThe waypoint coordinates for Against Nifflevar and Beachfront Property are in the wrong zones. Against Nifflevar should be in Howling Fjord and Beachfront Property should be in Dragonblight.

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    Jan 28, 2009 @ 21:04

    Howling Fjord GuideOrfus of Kamagua has two waypoints. The one at (56.90, 74.60) is incorrect.

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      Jan 29, 2009 @ 1:22

      I’ve fixed the BeachfrontI’ve fixed the Beachfront Property one… I don’t know what is causing the other two, but I suspect that it is an issue with Lightheaded and not TourGuide (and I don’t know how to go about fixing it if this is the case).

      By the way, it would be nice if you specified whether you’re using the Horde/Alliance guide, and whether you’re referring to the complete, turn-in or accept objective, that makes it a lot easier to find the issue in question.

      Thanks for the feedback.

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    Jan 30, 2009 @ 7:45

    redridge mountains 15-18 bostonwhen i try to load boston’s 15-18 redridge mountain guide i get this error:interfaceaddonstourguideparser.lua:54: unknown action : |.
    is there any way to fix this. the guide worked very well from 1-15

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      Jan 31, 2009 @ 2:08

      I’m not 100% certain, butI’m not 100% certain, but you may need to add a space between the function() and return[[ at the top of the guide. I’ll see if I can get it fixed myself and have it working in the next update (I’m currently splitting the 30-60 section to avoid the zone detection errors).

      Hopefully we’ll get it working soon!

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        Fév 2, 2009 @ 2:42

        The problem seems to be anThe problem seems to be an errant return. The closing pipe for line 4 was accidentally pt on line 5 by itself, and when I fixed it in my file it let me load up the guide, but I haven’t tested it further than that.

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    Jan 31, 2009 @ 6:35

    And the new update is here.And the new update is here. Version 0.2.2 of the TourGuide_Alliance file changes are:

    * Split the 30-40 section to remove zone detection errors.
    * Split the 40-50 section to remove zone detection errors.
    * Split the 50-60 section to remove zone detection errors.
    * Fixed loading issue on 15-18 Redridge Mountains guide.

    Bear in mind that there probably will be cases of coordinates being in the wrong zone in the split section (30-60) as I was working pretty much blind and it wasn’t even guides written by me. So please be patient and notify me of coordinates in the wrong place, it will be fixed in time.

    In the meantime, enjoy!

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    Jan 31, 2009 @ 9:16

    the new updatei cant seem to download the updated guide when i go to filefront i press the download now button then i just get an network timeout message 🙁 🙁

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    Jan 31, 2009 @ 17:37

    LightheadedI play on a Mac and have had problems with addons in the past where they will not show up in my addons list on the character selection screen and they do not work ingame. This is currently happening to me with lightheaded and it makes following tourguide really hard. Any ideas on how to fix this would be greatly appreciated.

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      Fév 3, 2009 @ 19:24

      RE: addons on your MacAre you positive that they are installed correctly? I’m on a Mac, as well, and every time I’ve had trouble it’s been b/c I installed incorrectly. If you haven’t got it already, I recommend getting WoW Matrix to manage your addons – I haven’t had any trouble with mods since I began using this.

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      Fév 3, 2009 @ 21:45

      addons on a MacI also use a mac and it works great with wow.
      Sounds like you did not install the addon correctly.
      If you just put the one lighthead folder in your addons folder then that is the problem
      here is what you need to do to fix lighthead.

      Drag the 1 folder out of your interface addons folder (just drop it on the desk top)
      open the lighthead folder. inside you will see several other folders and an text file
      Drag all those folders (they are the actual addon) in to your interface addons folder
      start up wow and lighthead should be there.


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    Fév 2, 2009 @ 1:24

    The new update is brokenThe download does not seem to be there. When you unzip, theirs two files in the unzipped folder, both 0 kb in size. DownThemAll! even refuses to download it, gives a “404 file not found” error.

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      Fév 2, 2009 @ 15:34

      I’ll fix it asap.I’ll fix it asap.

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        Fév 2, 2009 @ 16:31

        Cool thx :)Cool thx 🙂

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    Fév 2, 2009 @ 18:35

    curseAny chance of publishing this through or is that a bad thing to suggest a different website sorry if I offended. My thought is it makes addons very simple to download and they will get automatically updateded saving you the hassle of all the questions when people cant figure out how to download or update the addon. Thanks

    Oh yeah the guides are awesome am excited to try the addon.

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      Fév 2, 2009 @ 22:58

      Just think about itJust think about it logically. What happens if we do this?

      -People stop visiting here, they just update the addon through curse and don’t even bother registering an account here and posting feedabck (which we need to improve the addon and make it better)
      -We get less traffic, which means that the site won’t grow as fast as it should, which means less of a chance of new great features and guides to appear here.

      Help smaller sites like wow-pro grow bigger by contributing to them, instead of feeding those giant money machines like curse, just because “it’s easier” to update the addon with their client.

      It’s really not that difficult anyway is it? Check for updates here every now and then, download the .zip, extract it to your addons folder. Takes 1 minute. And drop some feedback while you’re here, if you got any.

      You lose 1 minute of your time but you contribute to something everyone can enjoy for free.

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        Fév 2, 2009 @ 23:04

        In the current state we alsoIn the current state we also need the people who want to use the addon to improve it even more. If it’s available on curse it’s a “one-click-download” thing and much less people will notice that we need help on this project. 🙂

        Edit: which is exactly what Jame wrote ._.

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        Fév 5, 2009 @ 21:35

        WoW-Pro exclusiveOK wow-pro exclusive it is didnt think about the above mentioned points I will do everything through here. Ive been using the addon for a couple days now and am very impressed. using the guides just became so easy a Murloc could use it. just one follow up then how do we know when updates are out and where in the site would we find them? Oh ya as I said in the first post hope I didnt offend was just asking.

        Thanks again for all your work and keep rocking out the good stuff you do.

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          Fév 6, 2009 @ 0:34

          On this page for starters,On this page for starters, you’ll see “Updated xx/xx/2009” in the title.

          In the future it will be easier, once the addons are close to finished, I will just centralize everything on these two pages:


          But for now there’s still so much going on that I suggest you follow this news post here, and also the wiki pages (Main info page and list of work in progress).

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    Fév 3, 2009 @ 6:12

    Missing Guides in TourGuide – Solution (try the mouse wheel)Like many below I to had a little trouble installing the guide (human error). It turns out that I simpply had to use the wheel on my mouse to scroll down in the guides to get to Jame’s. Believe me, I tried arrow keys, PG UP/Down, reinstalling, before I tried the simpliest of the solutions. Otherwise – it was a simple unzip of the guide to the addons folder.

    Speaking to the zip file, anyone else have troubles unzipping the file in Vista? My first attempts were unsuccessful and resulted in errors (already a file with same name / folder error). I cheated and unzipped on my Web host (linux( and repackaged the zip file and problem solved, but may be something we should keep an eye on.

    Can wait to give the guide a try tomorrow after Blizzard brings everything back on line.

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    Fév 3, 2009 @ 8:15

    filefront problemis there any chance that you could upload the addon on another site then filefront because my computer cant enter filefront 🙁

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      Fév 3, 2009 @ 14:47

      I believe Jame will put thisI believe Jame will put this version on WoW-Pro soon.

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    Fév 3, 2009 @ 16:01

    suggestion.I am not shure, since i will only start to use the addon tonight on a new toon.
    But would it be an idea to put your starter notes AND a date + link to check for guide updates on the first note ?
    And as an endnote again, go here to post comments please ?

    That may get people back anf forth a bit more ?

    BTW, i started working on the online editor. Plan is to make it wiki- like
    With a backup for only the site admin to revert when someone messed with it.

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    Fév 3, 2009 @ 16:08

    Borean Tundra, Howling Fjord, Dragonblight (Alliance)I made a new comment instead of squeezing it into the posts below about Borean Tundra because I have other slightly unrelated things to say!

    For Borean Tundra, I’ve finished revamping the guide for the most part. There are still issues with it because I wasn’t able to completely test it through after the revamp; I was already around halfway into it.

    – Some objectives that should complete may not do so if the quest objective text is wrong (I think I got them all right, but of course will need testing).
    – The first quest to get and turn in immediately doesn’t seem to auto-complete, because it’s one of those quests where you just talk and turn in without actually accepting the quest. (Would having just the complete quest tag work for this?)
    – The waypoint arrows point to the wrong Thassarian while doing his line of quests.

    Overall, the quests should now be in the correct order and the descriptions, I think, give a better idea of what’s going on. The previous version of the guide also completely left out the instance quests or any mention of The Nexus instance altogether, so I added that in. I also put waypoint arrows to the nearest Sell junk/repair at each of those steps.

    File for Borean Tundra:;13187547;/fileinfo.html

    [b]Alliance Howling Fjord and Dragonblight[/b]
    I didn’t really volunteer these ahead of time or anything, but since my wife and I would like to level through Dragonblight easier (and when I started, we were going through Howling Fjord), I started working on them. It’s been about a day and a half and I have all of the Howling Fjord guide done without coordinates, and about half of the Dragonblight one done this way. I plan on adding coordinates afterwards by going around with her level 80 Rogue, then playtesting both with one of my characters (just finished Borean Tundra and ready to start on Howling Fjord). Dragonblight will get a double run through for testing, so it’ll be even more polished.

    Again, I didn’t volunteer ahead of time, so I don’t want to displace anyone else working on Howling Fjord or Dragonblight. If it would make anyone upset to share these when I’m done, then I will (again) use them as my own personal versions. I’d hate to make other peoples’ work useless.

    [b]One last thing[/b]
    I was looking at the known issues for the Horde Borean Tundra guide, and I had an idea for the Core of Malice problem. It may not be worth it, but the idea is basically separating it into 2 steps: getting a core, then continuing to get cores and using them.

    To do this, replace:

    C The Lost Spirits |QID|11607| |N|Get cores off Beryl hounds, then use them on Kaskala Craftsmen and Kaskala Shaman. There are a bunch of Beryl Hounds at (52,31).| |U|34711|

    With something like this:

    N Core of Malice for The Lost Spirits |L|34711| |N|Kill Beryl Hounds in the quarry to get a Core of Malice.|
    C The Lost Spirits |QID|11607| |N|Get more cores off Beryl hounds, then use them on Kaskala Craftsmen and Kaskala Shaman. There are a bunch of Beryl Hounds at (52,31).| |U|34711|

    I tried to be consistent with the guide’s form of describing things.

    [b]Lastly:[/b] If there is a better place for long posts like this, I’d love to hear about it ^^; I feel like I’m plugging up the page. There was the forums post, but it looked like people were dealing with things here more.

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      Fév 3, 2009 @ 17:31

      No better place to postNo better place to post this, you did the right thing.

      Great job on the Borean Tundra guide, I just browsed your version and it’s a big improvement over the previous one. Looking forward to see your next tourguide works 😉

      I’ll add your new version to the .zip and upload it right away. Keep it up!

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        Fév 3, 2009 @ 18:23

        When my wife and I level ourWhen my wife and I level our next characters (as soon as our refer-a-friend triple exp goes away… I haven’t had a chance to fully experience your lower level guides, pre 60, due to this), I will retest and polish the Borean Tundra guide if it hasn’t been done already by then.

        I’m still not entirely happy with it, a lot of quest accepts and turn-ins had coordinates that I didn’t take out, but I didn’t want to take anything like that out if I couldn’t test it for myself.

        Anyway, back to work on Dragonblight!

        Edit: Oh, actually here would be a good place to post this I suppose. I used all the outland guides (Hellfire right up to Blade’s Edge) for my second character, and I found the quality to be quite good. I wish I could remember the bugs (I think I found about 4 “bugs” throughout the entire thing), but I can’t other than one quest in Hellfire that you’re told to turn in but never told to pick up. That was easy to fix in-game though because the quest pickup is right nearby… it’s that little outpost southwest of the giants.

        Anyway, the author of these did a very good job, but he seems to have used an outdated version of the guide. I believe it was Nuzz that wrote it? I suspect he wrote them a while ago and that’s why the Alliance had so many ready so early, right? The reason I say this is at each level turn in the first half (I forgot about the last half), there is a note to grind 50-75k exp depending on your level, or to get [xx] level, whichever takes *longer*. After WotLK, this is no longer necessary as you know, but guide followers who are trying to follow it exactly won’t know this and will waste a lot of time getting exp they don’t need, even though they will be 71 or close to it after finishing Blade’s Edge Mountains.

        Other than that, they were pretty darn nice and I was finishing each zone in about… 4-5 hours I’d say? Just a guess.

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          Fév 3, 2009 @ 20:27

          Borean TundraMy wife and I are getting ready to leave for Florida for just over a week (space shuttle launch and Daytona 500!!!). She would string me up by my “short and curlies” if I spent our vacation playing WoW, so I won’t be able to test Borean Tundra until I get back. I am hopeful to get cooking and jewelcrafting dailies done before we turn in for the night though.

          My Death Knight is almost done with Howling Fjord (will hopefully be done with that by the time we leave) and my Rogue will be in Borean Tundra after that. If no one has tackled it by then, I’ll test it for you.


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          Fév 3, 2009 @ 22:45

          Great feedback about theGreat feedback about the alliance helfire files. Yes they were written by Nuzz, and I’m not surprised the quality is good. And yes, he wrote them a while back so the exp curve adjustments need to be made, and maybe a few minor changes here and there.

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      Fév 4, 2009 @ 3:30

      I started on Howling Fjord,I started on Howling Fjord, using a different method this time, but if you have the quest sequence done, I could work on adding coordinates to your guide? (If that’s ok)

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    Fév 3, 2009 @ 18:12

    I’m testing Snowflake’sI’m testing Snowflake’s 13-21 leveling guide and is going very good so far. Any plans about making Jame’s horde leveling guides from level 20 to level 60? 🙂

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      Fév 3, 2009 @ 18:49

      I’m working on it
      -I’mI’m working on it 🙂
      -I’m currently working on the 12-20 Barrens part
      -The 21-31 is done by Blackcat and in the current release version.
      -The 31-41 part is done by me, a link is up on the work in progress page.
      -I’m also going to do the 41-51 part and the first few levels are available to download. I will continue to work on these when I’m done with the Barrens.

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        Fév 3, 2009 @ 19:58

        Can’t get better :)Dear Clearasil, I really like your effort, keep it up 😉

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    Fév 3, 2009 @ 19:29

    I was using the guide Jame’sI was using the guide Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Howling Fjord (70-71) last night and noticed an error. It sent me to venomspite to do a couple quests and when it said to find the surveyor it tried to send me back to HF off a cliff. I think it’s only a coord error seeing he’s just SE of Venomspite but thought you would like to know.

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    Fév 3, 2009 @ 19:40

    i dont see the new alliancei dont see the new alliance file :]

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      Fév 3, 2009 @ 22:26

      Try again nowTry again now

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    Fév 3, 2009 @ 22:32

    Ah, just noticed that BlackAh, just noticed that Black cat had fixed the 30-60 files for Alliance. I’ll add those changes now and update a new .zip asap.

    Thanks Black Cat!

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    Fév 3, 2009 @ 23:04

    Could use helpTwo of the alliance files do not want to load and I could use help figuring out where the error is.

    Here is a link to the two files:

    If you find the error, please fix it and send me the fixed version by e-mail:

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      Fév 3, 2009 @ 23:30

      The Dustwallow Marsh one: NThe Dustwallow Marsh one:
      N Sealed Letter |N|[note] (47.00, 46.00)| |L|33114 1|

      Where you have

      |L|33114 1|

      Should be

      You have the same kind of error in your Hinterlands file. You need to put a “|” between the item number and the number of items required.

      At least, I think this is it. I can’t try it right now because I’m logging soon.

      Another possibility:
      T Rhapsody’s Kalimdor Kocktail |N|The path starts near 21, 48 | |QID|1452|

      After “21, 48” you have two | |, this should be one.

      And how do you mean, do not load? Do they not show up in the list, or do they show up in the list but when you click on it nothing happens? If they don’t show up in the list, it is a guides.xml issue.

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        Fév 4, 2009 @ 1:42

        They do show up in the list,They do show up in the list, they just won’t load when you click on them.

        It’s not that though. |L|33114 1| is the correct way for items.

        The two bars here are also normal:

        T Rhapsody’s Kalimdor Kocktail |N|The path starts near 21, 48 | |QID|1452|

        Note tags always have two bars |N|Insert Note Here|

        Thanks for trying to help though 🙂

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    Fév 3, 2009 @ 23:39

    I’ve been using Jame’sI’ve been using Jame’s guides for leveling for don’t know how many characters. I probably have 6 lvl 70 and up characters that I’ve leveled using these great guides so thank you for them, not to mention my partner’s characters. 🙂

    I just went through the old version of Borean Tundra guide. I only now noticed that my bookmark for was an old one… Wouldn’t have helped though, since the editing came only the same day I finished. Anyways I’d taken some notes of things that were wrong but I assume Wizard fixed those already. (thanks!)

    In that old page I saw Jame’s comment about coords & lightheaded
    “In 99% of the cases, you don’t need to add a note with coords for these two types of steps: Quest Accept and Quest Turn in. (A and T)
    Why? Because Lightheaded already has a database of all the quest NPCs’ locations linked to each Quest ID (QID). So it automatically creates a TomTom arrow pointing you to the quest NPC you need to talk to to accept or turn in a quest. Better than that, it also puts the name of the quest NPC you need to interract with under the TomTom arrow.”

    I have to say I slightly disagree, because as you can see from Thassarian-questline, for example, phasing makes Lightheaded give the wrong coords for turning in quests. It’s a problem with all those database mods (Lightheaded, Questhelper) because they just get the locations, and aren’t that intelligent about where the quest NPC actually is in the phase you’re in. The problem is quite much more obvious in Icecrown, when thinking of the future guides. Also for me Lightheaded doesn’t provide any other information I’d use besides those coords, so I wouldn’t want to use yet another extra addon just because of couple missing coords, which really are useful. It’s just a couple of marks extra, instead of megabytes of data (depending how many modules have been loaded).

    I’m sorry I’m always this wordy, don’t know how to say everything so that is short, clear and simple. (See, that could’ve been much shorter too :P)

    I really aplaud you for allowing these addon versions anyways, it’s really great, tyvm! 🙂

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      Fév 4, 2009 @ 1:50

      That’s a good point, howeverThat’s a good point, however the phasing engine covers what… 0.1% of the total quests in the game? 😛

      We’ll add the coords manualy whenever Lightheaded is innacurate, of course.

      But for the rest, Lightheaded saves us a tremendous amount of time when coding the addon in this format. Adding the coords for every accept / turn in quests for all the guides would be dozens of extra hours of work.

      So for now we’ll keep on using it, but maybe in the future we’ll add all coords manually, if people have the time and motivation.

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        Fév 11, 2009 @ 3:34

        Replying a bit late here,Replying a bit late here, but if any other zone gets the rearrange treatment that Plaguelands got due to death knights showing up, do you really want to have to go through the guides line by line to update coords?

        Personally, I’d avoid coords wherever possible and let Lightheaded cover them – that way, if NPCs move, the next Lightheaded parse will automatically update the WoW-Pro guides with no extra effort.

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          Fév 16, 2009 @ 13:41

          That’s already what we do.That’s already what we do. Whenever we have a quest accept or turn-in, we use the QID so that Lightheaded gives the location. For the rest, we have no choice but to input them manually.

          Hopefully blizzard won’t be changing the geography of the zones too often. In my experience this is extremely rare, so no worries.

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    Fév 4, 2009 @ 18:16

    About the arrow.Some days ago I was testing another in-game addon (can’t remember which one, sorry) and it used the TomTom arrow in a different way than this guides do. The arrow of this addon changes colour when the player changes his position respect of the destination (the little dot on the map). The other addon I was testing had a more “clever” arrow: the colour changed as the distance changed. What I mean?

    Wow-pro addon: the arrow is green when in line of the dot, red when on the opposite side;

    “other” addon: the arrow is red when far away from the dot, it becomes light red, yellow and then green as the player approaches to the dot on the map.

    I think that the second arrow is better, because the player can see from the colour of the arrow how far is from the destination without having to open the map. It’s also more logic than the actual arrow-colour system, in my opinion.

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      Fév 4, 2009 @ 18:23

      I’m not sure but I think theI’m not sure but I think the cartographer arrow does that. You can use this one with TourGuide aswell.

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    Fév 5, 2009 @ 9:01

    I have used my DK to testI have used my DK to test these two alliance guides, and they work really good, cant find any bugs. The only “problem” there is, is that i get 4 lvls in Hellfire, so i skipped Zangarmarsh 🙂

    Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide – Hellfire Penninsula
    Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide – Terokkar

    I can skip them off the list as Need Testing, they are really good 🙂

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    Fév 5, 2009 @ 12:49

    Problems with the Horde addon 😕 I downloaded it, but when unzipped the folder only has _MACOSX and WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Horde in the unzipped folder, both listed with 0kb. :/

    Bummer, I was really excited ’cause then I wouldn’t have to Alt+Tab so much. Haha. Oh well. I can wait for the fix. :] Love the guide btw, helps me out so much!!! Thanks for creating it!

    P.S. – Yes, I downloaded the other three addons (TourGuide, TomTom, and Lightheaded).

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      Fév 5, 2009 @ 21:03

      I have downloaded the guidesI have downloaded the guides this afternoon and there were no problems with the files. Have you tried to put the “wow-pro_tourguide_horde” folder in the interface/addon directory? Maybe it will work anyway 🙂

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    Fév 6, 2009 @ 1:51

    New chapter
    Just released a new version for the alliance!
    [url=][/url] v0.4:

    [*]My own latest chapter – Maw’s Leveling Guide 12-20 | Try it, the quality is very high!
    [*]Also added a [b]new[/b] revamped version of the Borean Tundra guide (Thanks to Wizerd – also thanks to Elmo and NLX067)
    [*]Fixed a few minor bugs
    [*]Started to rename the files, so that it looks more organized in the list. [b]YOU NEED TO DOWNLOAD THE LATEST VERSION OF TOURGUIDE FOR IT TO WORK[/b].

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    Fév 6, 2009 @ 3:35

    testingI’ve been leveling with the addon using James guides since lvl 30 and so far its been great no problems what so ever, expect that some of the quests needs co-ords on where to get them, and sometimes when you get a quest tour guide makes you automaticaly hand it in. Also when you get Mission To Mudsproket it’s only available at lvl 39 so that needs to be put to a later part of the guide it’s currently at lvl 38. Maybe put it where you have to hearthstone to Theramore. I’ll be done 30-40 by tommorow and I plan to test the rest of the addon and keep you updated.

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    Fév 6, 2009 @ 13:07

    Thanks to Jame!Now I can go on with the leveling of a “test” char, being a human. I am already level 14 after doing the class quest and probably will be a lot ahead of the guide, which is alway good. I have done the fist part in loch modan and it was clearly all good. Catch me up on Terokkar EU (name: Solstafir) to share online opinions 😉

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    Fév 6, 2009 @ 16:31

    Curse updated tourguide and I had to install wow-pro guides again. Since then TomTom arrow does not work with Tourguide (but does with questhelper). Is there a setting somewher i dont see that will disengage TomTom with questhelper and make it work with Tourguide?


    DKs rule…others drool

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      Fév 7, 2009 @ 0:16

      Hmm weird, did you tryHmm weird, did you try disabling questhelper?

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      Fév 7, 2009 @ 17:50

      Questhelper ArrowYes, you can stop QuestHelper from using the TomTom arrow. On my install, the option is called ‘Disable Waypoint Arrow’ in QuestHelper. Tourguide will then be able to use TomTom without interference.

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    Fév 6, 2009 @ 16:36

    I’ve been following thisI’ve been following this guide from the beginning on my alliance char and it has been nice.
    However, after completing the Desolace part (36-38) the addon bugged and didn’t allow the next guide to load.

    I’m complete stranger to WoW addons but I think the problem is that there’s a missing letter on the

    002_38_41_Dustwallow_Marsh_Jame_3040.lua line

    Level Check: 41 |N|Make sure you’re 8000 or less XP off level 41 before continuing…|

    (There should be “N” before that part?)

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    Fév 6, 2009 @ 19:42

    tom tom arrowJame, thanks for getting the maws 12-20 guide finished and up. Im working my way through it, but the tom tom arrow is weird. It’ works great at pointing, but its never had the line underneath it filled it, its always […. Never changes just displays that all the time. I downloaded new versions of ALL the addons when you released the human 12-20 guide yesterday. I disabled all my other addons (cartographer and recount) and nothing changed. The arrow displays the distance and the time just not the white line with npc and quest names.

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    Fév 7, 2009 @ 1:12

    Stygian that error is fixedStygian that error is fixed in v0.4 so just update your version and you’ll be good to go.

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    Fév 7, 2009 @ 3:02

    Howling Fjord Alliance guide completeI just finished testing my Alliance Howling Fjord one last night, and I worked out all the bugs and things I forgot. It should be as close to perfect as I can get it with just 1 run through. It has a similar problem to Borean Tundra: the guy who gives the Orfus of Kamagua quest and the artifact ones (the Tuskarr at the ancient lift) has a second location down NEAR the artifacts, and the arrow always points there, despite a location in the notes.

    The file is here, and uses the new naming convention:;13225625;/fileinfo.html

    Needs testing of course, but it should be good. Dragonblight coming soon. 😮

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      Fév 7, 2009 @ 20:15

      Missing turnin for “A Carver and a Croaker”I started the guide partway in, but what I’ve seen so far looks quite nice, thanks!

      I did notice that the turn in for “A Carver and a Croaker” is missing, and it’s required for the next step listed.

      Thanks for the good work you’ve done so far.

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        Fév 8, 2009 @ 9:15

        Really? *goes to check* Huh,Really? *goes to check* Huh, so it is. I guess I missed it when testing because I had done the circuit a couple days before. Thanks! If you see any other bugs I’d love to get them corrected.

        TourGuide needs a debug feature where you can advance steps yourself one at a time, turning off any and all detection (such as detecting which quests you have). It sucks that if I want to test it I have to level a character through it, because if I check off an “Accept quest” step, and I don’t have the quest, it automatically checks off the Complete quest and Turn in quest steps too. :/

        The fixed Howling Fjord file:;13239632;/fileinfo.html

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      Fév 15, 2009 @ 23:56

      Ok, after finally managingOk, after finally managing to download from Filefront, I’ve looked through the file and it seems to be very high quality. I’ll upload it with the next .zip

      Thumbs up!

      Now all we need is people to test it 🙂

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    Fév 7, 2009 @ 9:15

    tom tom arrow wont worka friend of mine wants this guide to lvl he’s new human but after he installs all the addons and try it ingame the tomtom arrow wont show at all. plz help

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    Fév 7, 2009 @ 13:48

    I’ve got 2 quesetions whichI’ve got 2 quesetions which might be of interest for everyone – well, at least one which can indeed be answered 😛
    First: I’d like to know whether the addon is region/localization specific. By this I mean, whether you need to have the English/American version of WoW installed in order for the guides to show up, respectively load and work. I’m asking this, because I think that there are many Europeans using French, German or any other clients to play who are having trouble with the addon. Well, at least I do, as some guides work perfectly fine, while others simply won’t even show up for me in TourGuide 😕 . Do I have to change my language and client to be English? It wouldn’t be any inconvenience if so, and I’d immidiately do it, but I just want to make sure.
    Second: I’m noticing that a whole lot of work is done on the Alliance part of the addon, as there actually already is a guide for every level range except for 77-80. There is a huuuge gap from 30-60 and a small 2 level one from Nagrand until Howling Fjord on the Horde side though 🙁 . Is there any possibility you could tell, when those gaps (the huge one in particular) are planned to be bridged?
    Thanks a lot 🙂

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    Fév 7, 2009 @ 19:09

    dustwallow marsh guide 38-41i fixed the problem with the dustwallow marsh guide and uploaded the file you need to replace here

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    Tzu Iop
    Fév 8, 2009 @ 13:16

    Display of coordinates and different langue versionThe coordinates are usually misplaced when they point to another zone or when you start up WoW. In later case the coordinates will be placed on the corresponding spot on the world map. In the first it will placed in corresponding spot in the current zone. So entering the correct zone und check-uncheck the option will fix that.

    The addon works for myself on a german client on german server. The only problems i encounter are the misplaced coordinates above mentioned as the addon don’t regconize the correct zone due to the german names and translation issues in finding the correct quest giver.

    So far played:
    1-6 Bostons Gnome Guide
    6-12 Maws Human Guide
    12-20 Maws Guide
    20-30 Bostons Guide
    30-40 James Guide

    and all worked well.

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    Fév 8, 2009 @ 15:25

    fixed some errors with the night elf starter guidei fixed some minor errors with the night elf starting guide.
    fixed dalanaar to dolanaar.
    and for the quest “recipe of the kaldorei” i changed the turn in so it is turn in and not in a note.
    file to replace is found here

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      Fév 15, 2009 @ 23:11

      Thanks a lot Mishab! SorryThanks a lot Mishab! Sorry for the long time it took me to check your files and reply. Great job, I was having a hard time fixing the Dustwallow marsh file.

      I’ll upload it with a new .zip soon!

      +karma for you!

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    Fév 8, 2009 @ 16:28

    Alliance Guide TroubleI downloaded the horde version of the guides last week, and they worked just fine. I went to download the alliance one’s last night, and ran into some trouble. After some fiddling around, I discovered I had to download the new tourguide, which I did. Some of the guides are loading, such as Maw’s and Boston’s, but Jame’s aren’t, especially the Outland and Northrend one’s. What am I doing wrong? My horde guides still work perfectly. I have tried downloading, unzipping, and copying in about a billion different place, and I have tried deleting some of the guides I didn’t need in the file, but to no avail. I feel like pulling my hair out in frustration at this point. Any idea what I am doing wrong?

    “As if you could kill time without injuring eternity.”

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      Fév 8, 2009 @ 16:30

      Wow…I am stupidJust after I posted that giant rant, I scrolled up a bit and discovered the troubleshooting of why the guides could not be showing up. Lo and behold, I alt tab back to WoW, use the scroll wheel on the addon frame and….found the guides!

      I hate myself sometimes, lol.

      “As if you could kill time without injuring eternity.”

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    Fév 8, 2009 @ 19:28

    Alliance Guide problemsI have tried to load the Alliance guide into my add-ons, and the add-on is turned on, however, none of the guides are showing up in Tour Guide. I’ve tried to scroll, unload and reload, etc, and nothing works. Any ideas of what might be wrong????

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    Fév 8, 2009 @ 19:32

    Error in Boston’s guide 20-30In the Boston’s alliance guide lv 20-30 at some point it tells to take the quest The Night Watch part 1. Later on it says to deliver Night Watch part 2, but it never says to deliver part 1 and get part 2 (it brings you in the zone to complete part 2 but you dont have it).

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    Fév 9, 2009 @ 4:47

    What am I doing wrong?I’m trying to add what Wizerd contributed to the touguide addon but its not showing up. I went as far as moving all the other guides to a different folder and just leaving HF guide but no luck

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    Fév 9, 2009 @ 8:01

    maws 13-15 guideadded to set sentinel hill as new home so you can hearthstone there and not to loch modan.
    new file:

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      Fév 15, 2009 @ 23:27

      Thank you, will upload itThank you, will upload it with the next .zip

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    Fév 9, 2009 @ 9:34

    WoW Horde 60-63I used your DK guide and loved it. After following that, I discovered that you had an addon. I have to say that it has made my leveling a lot easier. I am currently following the Horde 60-63 guide and am at the step where I go to Shattrath. The note says this:

    “Follow the road west into Zangarmarsh, then follow it past Cenarion Refuge, grabbing the FP in the way, and take a left and head south to Terokkar Forest. Keep following the road south to Shattrath.”

    Unless I am mistaken, there is no FP in Cenarion Refuge, but rather at Swamprat Post from Gur’zil, north of Cenarion Refuge.

    Keep up the awesome work!

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    Fév 10, 2009 @ 1:27

    Did you download the newDid you download the new Tourguide version (as of Jan 26 I think?) and the new set of files for WoW-Pro alliance, and then replace that Howling Fjord one (which is only like 10% of the area) with mine? It should work fine that way.

    The name of the file is 002_ at the beginning instead of 000_ like before. If you have the old stuff, change the first 3 characters of the file to 000_. It should work. Is anyone else having trouble with my file?

    It loads for me. 🙁

    Edit: oops, meant to reply to reanimatedshad0w. >.<

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    Fév 10, 2009 @ 15:03

    Sorry guys, I would writeSorry guys, I would write somewhere else but I’ve no idea where… and dont want to bother someone in pm.

    I have downloaded the addon version of the alliance guides, tomtom and tourguide. All installed, Jame’s guides loaded.
    All other addons disactivated since I really love it and it gives me the info i need.

    The problem I have is that the comment/indication (I presume from jame’s guide) under de minimap on what quest to do and the comment/indication under the arrow aren’t the same.
    I’m in Nagrand with my DK. Just picked up the final fase (3) of the Nessingwary quests.
    I got a warning that those quests aren’t in my guide.. (but they are).
    Just did the Blessing of Inceniratus, and while the indication from Jame sends me back to deliver it, the arrow sends me off to slay Boulderfist Mage for The Twin Clefts of Nagrand.

    What am i doing wrong??

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    Fév 12, 2009 @ 3:01

    Zangarmarsh (Horde) quest “News from Zangarmarsh” bugged?The quest “News from Zangarmarsh” in Swamprat Post is in the guide. When I talk to the NPC, though, the quest frame has the “This quest is not in the current guide” header even though it’s the next step. If I accept the quest, the step autocompletes.

    I have verified that the QID is correctly set to match the ID from wowhead ( so I’m not sure where the disconnect occurs.

    Is this happening to everybody, or just me?

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    Fév 13, 2009 @ 5:25

    IssueJust like to first say that I love this addon and decided to level my Horde Death Knight using it. I am almost done with the hellfire horde guide and I noticed a slight problem. When turning in Trueflight Arrows, Arelion’s Journal, and In Need Of Felblood. It says to turn in Source of the Corruption, yet it never told me to do that quest, but it tells me to do the other quests related to that area later in the guide. Just thought I would point that out. =)


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    Fév 16, 2009 @ 3:49

    Big UpdatesBig Updates today!
    [color=#3333ff][b]Alliance[/b][/color] v0.5 changes:

    *Howling Fjord now COMPLETE! + Quality improved | Coder: Wizerd | Needs further testing
    *Minor fixes to Maw’s 12-20 | Jame / Mishab
    *Minor fixes Taralom’s 1-12 | Mishab
    *Fixed the bug with the Dustwallow Marsh 38-41 section – Should load properly now | Mishab
    [color=#ff6600][b]Horde[/b][/color] v0.2 changes:

    *Added Jame’s 31-41 | Coder: Clearasil | Needs testing
    *Added Jame’s 41-51 | Coder: Plover2 | Needs testing
    *Added Snowflake’s Blood Elf 1-12 | Coder: Inyurbak | Needs testing
    *Added Zerinj’s Orc/Troll 1-12 | Coder: Clearasil | Needs testing
    *Added Manovan’s Undead Starter | Coder: Romgar | Needs testing
    *Added Hosho’s Barrens 12-20 | Coder: Clearasil | Needs testing
    *Fixed file names. Please follow this naming format from now on.
    *Fixed file names INSIDE the files. Please follow this naming format from now on.

    Enjoy. Please test them well and leave feedback!

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      Mar 4, 2009 @ 19:11

      Help !im getting Error at the addons list , when i active the addon ( i tick it ) it say something missing.
      i have at my Addons Folder only This :
      WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Horde(446 Kb)
      Something missing ?
      here a Screeny

      Please helo =) want 2 try it

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    Fév 17, 2009 @ 20:48

    Love itI think the addon is coming out totally awesome!!!
    Trying all i can do to contribute but the few things i have found as to bugs are already mentioned.

    But me and my friends have whas comparing this addon to Quest Helper
    only thing we found really bothering someway whas that usually when you have questhelper and hover you’r mouse over an enemy or npc in game it shows if it is the correct npc/enemy thingy x’D

    Wich would be really nice, and mapping out the spots to where you have to go…
    But what i noticed aswell is that questhelper on avarage Addon Memory it is on about 25-30 MB wich is ALOT out of performance!

    And the Tourguide and all together at about 3-4?? Its amazing really!!!
    Love that you work so much on this James, and everyone else that is helping and contributing!
    Cheers to you all! Really!!

    *Waves byebye, see you laters* ~~

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    Fév 18, 2009 @ 10:31

    Horde updated to[color=#ff6600][b]Horde[/b][/color] updated to v0.3:

    *Added SilverKnight’s Silverpine 12-20 | Coder: Clearasil | Needs testing
    *Zerinj’s Orc/Troll starter 1-12 IMPROVED | 1st Revamp: Clearasil Final Revamp: Jiyambi | Quality should be PERFECT.
    *Fixes made to Hillsbrad Foothills 22-24 | Jiyambi
    *Fixes made to Ashenvale 24-25 | Jiyambi
    *Fixed .xml for Hosho’s Barrens 12-20. It should now properly appear in the list

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    Fév 18, 2009 @ 12:02

    Just started using the Tour GuideReally nice addon, very helpful. Just one quick question, is there a way to display more than just the next objective? A lot of the time I’ll be running around completing objectives and there’ll be mobs to kill for a different quest or items to pick up from the ground etc. Can I show, say, 5 objectives on the miniscreen so I can complete several quests at once?

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      Fév 18, 2009 @ 14:46

      It’s not possible at theIt’s not possible at the moment, but you can always right-click the tourguide bar to see several steps behind / ahead.

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        Fév 18, 2009 @ 14:59

        The wow internThe wow intern quest-tracking gets activated for all “complete steps” in a row. So you can actually see what you need to do for the next steps 🙂

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          Fév 19, 2009 @ 11:35

          And yes, good pointAnd yes, good point 🙂

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            Mar 2, 2009 @ 1:51

            Personally, I can’t standPersonally, I can’t stand the in-game quest tracking system, so is there a way I can turn this option off? I couldn’t see anything in the config that would let me stop it turning on quest tracking.

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              Mar 2, 2009 @ 16:51

              Why would you want to turnWhy would you want to turn it off?? 😕

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                Mar 2, 2009 @ 20:46

                I use other quest trackingI use other quest tracking mods, so I don’t need the in-game quest tracking, and the in-game quest tracker is positioned in a rather annoying place for me and I can’t move – I like having something else displayed there and it overlays my other display making both unreadable.

                The only way I know of the turn off the tracking is to manually open the quest log, shift-click on all the quests which are currently being tracked to turn them off. However, TourGuide just reenables tracking everytime I complete a step so I have to keep turning them off a lot which is very frustrating for me.

                So for me, it’s annoying and it would be nice to have an option in TourGuide to say you don’t want auto-tracking enabled. Apart from this one feature I find it great mod and really enjoy using it.

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                  Mar 3, 2009 @ 10:23

                  Maybe your quest trackingMaybe your quest tracking addon has an option to hide the standard UI tracker?

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                    Mar 4, 2009 @ 20:31

                    Not that I can see. I haveNot that I can see. I have WoW auto-tracking turned off in the standard interfaces option, but that doesn’t stop quest tracking – it just stops the game from auto-tracking quests. I can still manually turn quest tracking on for certain quests (not that I want to) and TourGuide can do the same.

                    A simple checkbox in the TourGuide options to enable/disable quest tracking (default: enabled) would be perfect.

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    Fév 19, 2009 @ 16:49

    alliance v0.5 feedbackGreat work, I just started using the addon and am very impressed, but have a few questions/comments.

    As I’m new to the addon I’m not sure what the correct naming scheme you want is, but TourGuide:RegisterGuide is called in 001_18_20_Bostons_Westfall with “Westfall (WoW-Pro | Boston’s 18-20)”, “Redridge Mountains (WoW-Pro | Boston’s 20-21)” but in 001_20_21_Bostons_Redridge it is called with “[WoW-Pro | Boston’s 20-30] Redridge Mountains (20-21)”, “Duskwood (WoW-Pro | Boston’s 21-22)” so there is a muddle there.

    You might want to make it clearer that having questhelper loaded is going to totally break the way tourguide handles the “where to go arrow” with Cartographer/TomTom. If you read through the comments you’ll eventually find this explained, but there may be other folks out there who (like me) take a while to reaslise this.

    Lastly, does it make sense to change the TourGuide.toc so as not to load the original (and presumably not quite as up to date) guides via TourGuide_AllianceGuides.xml etc to reduce the clutter? Are you planning to replace the guides that come bundled with TourGuide with the wow-pro ones at some point?

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      Fév 23, 2009 @ 21:51

      Very good points.

      I willVery good points.

      I will upload a new version tomorrow and the default tourguides won’t appear anymore, only the wow-pro guides will appear on the list.

      I will also fix the file names.

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    Fév 19, 2009 @ 22:12

    updatesGreat work the more I use this addon guide the more I like it. The time I’m saving by not having to alt/tab all the time is awesome!!!

    one question though when updating. Do I just have to click the above ” WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Alliance file ” and then just install it like when I installed the origional version. If so does it overwrite the previous version or are there now 2 versions in the wow files?

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      Fév 21, 2009 @ 15:09

      When you extract the updateWhen you extract the update to the Addons folder, it should have a pop-up saying something like “This guide is already here, would you like to replace it?” So you should just pick Yes, and Yes To All if there is an option for that. Then you’ll have just ONE file, not 2 🙂

      And it will be the updated one!

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        Fév 21, 2009 @ 16:56

        ThanksThanks for the explanation I was wondering how that worked

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    Fév 19, 2009 @ 23:55

    Jame level 48-50 missingHi – I could be going mad here, but it seems the 48-50 ‘chunk’ of Jame’s alliance guide is missing? I re-downloaded the latest today and I still have in my list of Wow Guides

    The Hinterlands (Wow-Pro ¦ Jame’s 47-48) 100% complete
    The Hinterlands (Wow-Pro ¦ Jame’s 50-50)

    … and nothing in between?!

    Help please? Arg no guide .. what do i do now?!!? 🙂

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      Fév 23, 2009 @ 22:14

      I’ll upload a new versionI’ll upload a new version tomorrow, this should fix it.

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    Fév 20, 2009 @ 16:48

    add-on missing partUpon using your guide it has come to my attention that the following levels are missing from the add-on:


    I’m willing to provide a screenshot of this if no-one believes me.

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      Fév 21, 2009 @ 9:35

      not missingHello,

      the guides are not missing.
      Problem is you can scroll in the tourguide addon when you load a guide.
      BUT it will not show a scrollbar. So you will have to use a mousewheel or something.
      So it does LOOK missing, it really isnt 🙂

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        Fév 21, 2009 @ 18:44

        The most recent version ofThe most recent version of the addon should have a scrollbar.

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    Fév 22, 2009 @ 13:56

    And what avout the French Version ?Hello every wow pro user mods this is my first message.
    Sorry for my half English but I was looking on Souricette’s work and was asking to my self why aren’t the Jame traduced leveling guide not used for the addon I think it can be helpfully to try them to.
    Waiting for an answer

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      Fév 23, 2009 @ 23:45

      Souricette is already tryingSouricette is already trying to find a way to convert all the leveling addon files to a french version.

      No ETA, you’ll just have to pray and be patient! :p

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    Fév 24, 2009 @ 10:40

    Can’t load Howling Fjord guideHi,

    I wanted to try to use Tour Guide with my deathknight from level 70, however when I first loaded the Howling Fjord guide it said 100% complete and couldn’t load it ever since (while the others work).
    I’ve got all the three addons listed here installed and please note that I use a german client. A thing that came into my mind being the problem might be that I already had the three quests recommended to be taken in the written form of James’ Howling Fjord guide by the time I installed Tour Guide. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance,

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      Fév 24, 2009 @ 12:10

      It kinda helps if youIt kinda helps if you mention your faction 😛 (Horde or Alliance?)

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        Fév 24, 2009 @ 12:11

        HordieSorry, completely forgot to mention it. So I’m a hordie: a troll deathknight:) .

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          Fév 24, 2009 @ 23:22

          I just tried and it worksI just tried and it works fine for me.

          -Download the latest version of the (v0.4)
          -Download the latest version of TourGuide (the core addon)

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            Fév 25, 2009 @ 12:36

            WorksThank you very much it works just fine with the latest version.

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          Fév 24, 2009 @ 23:29

          Download the latest versionIf it doesn’t help, here’s what you can do:

          -Go to your wow/addon/wow-pro_tourguide_horde folder
          -Go to the howling fjord.lua and open it with notepad

          Add the following line anywhere in the file:

          N Jame saves the day

          Close and save the file

          Log in game and the guide shouldn’t be 100% anymore, so you can access it and un-check as many steps as needed.

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    Fév 24, 2009 @ 13:40

    New versionNew version uploaded!

    [color=#3333ff][b]Alliance v0.6[/b][/color]

    *BIG CHANGE: The default guides will no longer appear on the list. WoW-Pro guides will now appear on top of the list. Thank you Jahwo!
    *NEW: Added Boston’s 20-30 | Coded by jame | Quality should be very high!
    *Fixed all the file names
    *Added NLX3647’s Icecrown 79-80 | Warning: This is not really a wow-pro leveling guide, it’s closer to a default TourGuide guide | Needs testing
    *Fixed Tanaris 48-50 .lua. Should now load properly

    [color=#ff6600][b]Horde v0.4[/b][/color]

    *BIG CHANGE: The default guides will no longer appear on the list. WoW-Pro guides will now appear on top of the list. Thank you Jahwo!
    *REVAMP: Zerinj’s Orc/troll starter 1-12 | Jiyambi | High Quality, test it!
    *REVAMP: Hosho’s Barrens Guide 12-20 | Jiyambi | High Quality, test it!
    *Fixes made to Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide 31-41 | Jiyambi

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      Fév 24, 2009 @ 14:06

      Re : New VersionThank you JAME !
      I can’t wait to test it tonight !
      Keep up the good work 😉

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      Fév 24, 2009 @ 23:48

      Keeps getting betterIve had this working for bout 10 min and love it already, you rock Jame. I was worried it might not work with Carbonite, but I am glad to say it does just fine. Jame’s guides + Carbonite = sweet sweet leveling goodness.

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    Fév 25, 2009 @ 11:38

    New versionNew version uploaded:

    [color=#3333ff][b]Alliance v0.6.1[/b][/color]

    WoW-Pro-TourGuide_Alliance v 0.6.1 — Short fix

    *Snowflake’s Draenei 1-12 should now load properly
    *Added Sven’s Bloodmyst 12-20 | Coder: Culin23 | Needs testing

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    Fév 28, 2009 @ 1:18

    Horde Guide 41-51:Feralas (46)Hi, been levelling up another Horde char with your guides and have just switched over to the addon again. I have started on the Feralas (46) part and have noticed a few points/errors.

    When you take some quests there is no direction addon appearing showing the way to go. The quests so far I have noticed are ‘Alpha Strike’, ‘A New Cloaks Sheen’ and ‘Woodpaw Investigations’.

    In addition the instructions for ‘A New Cloaks Sheen’ showing the co-ords for the sprites as being 70,74. This is wrong it is 70,47.

    Am hoping to get to the end of the 41-51 by Monday, so will post any more errors I see when I can.

    Thanks again, for all the great work!

    Finished the Feralas (46) part. There is a problem after you arrive at the ‘Ruins of Isilden’ as the guide goes immediatly to say ‘The Gordunni Orb’ and the description is along the lines of ‘click on the item to begin the quest’.
    There is no mention of doing the quest ‘the ogres of feralas’, nothing saying the shamans are further into the ruins and you have to kill Mage-lords for the Gordunni orb to drop, and you don’t click on the Gordunni Orb, its for a quest, it does not start one.

    Finally when you hand in the quest ‘A Grim discovery’ the guide completes, it probably should say that you want to take the follow up as well. It also jumps to one of snowflake’s guides instead of the tanaris (47) one.

    Update (2):
    Im on the Tanaris (47) part of the 41-51 Horde guide. I have just flown and set my hearthstone in gadgetzan. The first quest that appears is ‘Wanted: Caliph Scorpidsting’ and the one after is ‘More Wastewater justice’. The location from Jame’s guide ‘Waterspring Field (63,37)’ is missing and there is no arrow pointing where to go.
    Possibly ‘More Wastewater Justice’ could come before the other quest as well?

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      Fév 28, 2009 @ 1:19

      Thanks a lot Exemplary bugThanks a lot 🙂 Exemplary bug reporting 😀

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    Fév 28, 2009 @ 15:22

    Jame’s (41-51): Tanaris (47)Worked my way through this part of the guide, only problem I discovered was a spelling mistake in the quest description for the quest ‘Stoley’s Shipment’ where instead of pirate it said prirate. Also when you are getting the quests in Gadgetzan, possibly the order to get them could be in a better order so you can do a circle around Gadg. to get them rather than go back on yourself several times.

    I remembered another bug in the Feralas (46) part, the co-ords for the quest giver for the quest ‘The Mark of Quality’ are wrong. I cant remember where they are set to, but when I was standing next to the quest giver, the TomTom arrow said i was over 3000 yards away from him.

    Im onto the Hinterlands (48) Guide now, so will report any bugs when I can.

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    Fév 28, 2009 @ 16:30

    Tanaris (47) / Hinterlands (48-51)At the end of the Tanaris (47) guide it tells you to go to Org, when you’re there it tells you to train, restock, retrain and then go to Tirisfal Glades. It doesn’t tell you to turn in the 3 quests that you should have! which Jame’s guide say to do at this time.

    After you have turned in ‘Cortello’s Riddle’ at the base of the waterfall in the Hinterlands, Jame’s guide says to go straight to Revantusk Village, However the addon has a quest included called ‘Whiskey Shin’s Lost Grog’ to do while you are on the way to Revantusk. not sure if it should be included or not? and as I only started the guide at Feralas (46) I have not seen if the addon tells you earlier on to pick it up, or not.

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    Fév 28, 2009 @ 18:33

    Which Lightheaded DataDoes anyone know which lightheaded data is the one that holds the quest info and locations for npc’s. There is a memory leak in it somewhere it seems and it’s driving my memory usage up pretty high. The only portions I really use are the ones that provide the info of where to grab and turn in quests so I’d like to just use those portions.

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      Mar 1, 2009 @ 0:30

      If there is a leak then it’sIf there is a leak then it’s very probably not in the Data. But nevertheless it’s really memory-consuming, that’s right, so you could just take a look into the lua files and check if you see quest names, item names etc? 🙂

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    Mar 1, 2009 @ 2:00

    Horde 41-51: Hinterlands (48)Got some more bugs/errors after finishing the hinterlands (48) part. There are several instructions that don’t autocomplete including ‘swim to lard’s picnic basket’, ‘swim to next island’and ‘ride to the path up.’

    When you pick up the wanted quests, just before going to Jintha Alor there is no description for the instruction saying where to get the quests, or an arrow showing where.

    There are some problems when you are doing the quests in Jintha Alor as well. several of the quests/instructions do not have arrows showing where to go such as the instruction ‘Pick the bones’ which also does not auto complete. ‘Kidnapped Elder torntusk’ has no description or direction arrow, the same for ‘Seperation Anxiety’ which has has a mistake in the quest description, the same line is repeated twice i think.

    I hope my bug reporting will come to some use! i am enjoying the guide!

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      Mar 1, 2009 @ 16:45

      I’m sure it will. Keep itI’m sure it will. Keep it coming 🙂

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    Mar 1, 2009 @ 22:40

    Horde 41-51: Feralas (50-52)I have finally finished the 41-51 part of the addon. For the final section in Feralas the only bug I think was for the quest ‘Improved Quality’ there is no direction arrow, the co-ords for the Yeti’s are(52,32). For the quest ‘Treant musiek’ the arrow takes you to the furthest spawn point, then once you get there it changes to the closest one to Camp Mojache. It might be best as you need 3 kills to have it set to go to the closest spawn point first, then the furthest, then back to the closest? I will carry on levelling with Jam’s online guide, is there an eta for the 51-60 guide?

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      Mar 2, 2009 @ 16:34

      Thanks for the infos, noThanks for the infos, no currently there is no eta for the 51-60 guide, sorry.

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    Mar 2, 2009 @ 2:02

    Can’t find 1-13 BE guide :(I’ve been a long time user of the James guides before so for leveling my new alt I thought i’d give the guide addon a try. Everything works great, except the guide for blood elfs 1-13 wont show up in tourguide, the file is both in the addons folder as .lua and the guide’s file as .xml so im not sure whats wrong.

    thanks in advance for the awesomeness that is the james leveling guide addon

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      Mar 2, 2009 @ 16:52

      if it’s the first guide inif it’s the first guide in the xml file you could try to add it a second time. There’s an issue that deletes the first guide in the xml file with the standard guides… 🙁

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        Mar 3, 2009 @ 1:47

        still cant find itI copied the .xml and the lua. across again but I am still unable to see the guide ingame

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          Mar 3, 2009 @ 10:32

          copy this to you xml filecopy [url=]this[/url] to you xml file

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            Mar 3, 2009 @ 20:05

            That Fixed ItAwesome that fixed it thanks

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    Mar 2, 2009 @ 6:43

    Patch files for Hellfire, Zangarmarsh, and TerokkarI’ve played a bunch of alts through the Hellfire, Zangarmarsh, and Terokkar guides, and have patchfiles for the changes to the guides. To whom would I send them? Is there a better mechanism than patchfiles? And, given that there’s a handful of changes I assume that pasting patches into a comment is not the way to go, so what’s going to work best here?

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      Mar 2, 2009 @ 7:49

      Upload the patch filesUpload the patch files somewhere free like [url=]Filefront[/url] or [url=]Google Sites[/url] and link them on the [url=]Works in Progress page[/url], also leaving a comment (if you don’t want to try and figure out the html, you can just leave a comment with the links and someone else will put them in the table).

      Those are for files that you have fixed yourself. If you are just noting changes for someone else to code, please post them in a comment and if possible link them on the [url=]known mistakes page[/url]. If you don’t know how, just leave the comment and someone else can do that part 🙂

      Thanks for the hard work, and writing this comment tells me someone needs to update the [url=]How to Contribute page[/url]!

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    Mar 5, 2009 @ 18:10

    Jame’s 40-50 Swamp of Sorrows 44-45I must say I am loving this addon version of your guides. I have found a error for the arrow pointer for the step Nethergarde Keep Flight Path. The arrow points to a spot that is 1154 yards away. But the location in the write up is correct. Thanks to this guide that I have used on my leveling Paladin started it at level 1 now level 47.

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    Mar 5, 2009 @ 21:54

    Curse Client/guide problemsSo i use curse client for almost all my addons. But your addon isn’t on the curse client so i had to install it manually. But now it isn’t showing up when I open the game. It is neither on the possible list of addons to turn on or off, nor there when i try to load it in-game.

    Any suggestions? i have tried reinstalling many times.

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      Mar 6, 2009 @ 5:10

      What operating system areWhat operating system are you using (Mac, Windows XP, Windows Vista)? I know Vista is known for having occasional problems with addons, and also sometimes moves your WoW folder to the “Public” folder instead of “Programs”.

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    Mar 6, 2009 @ 0:25

    52-60 Guide ?Hello there Jame, Big fan of the guides and also know this question may have been asked a many of times already.
    In the Tour Guide version for the Horde, is there any information concerning the levels 52-60 ? Im not familiar with them, and was wondering if i should just use the Windows mode method while playing.

    Currently level 42 and leveling rapidly thanks to your guides.

    Veleo – Perenolde

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      Mar 6, 2009 @ 5:19

      This section has beenThis section has been written (I think) but appears to be missing from the current addon version. I’m attempting to track it down now.

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    Mar 6, 2009 @ 4:07

    Alliance Grizzly Hills notesA couple things I noticed while running through Grizzly Hills. I hope this is where you’re supposed to post stuff like this, sorry if I’m wrong.

    The quests “Take Their Rear!” and “Replenishing the Storehouse” both lack reference coordinates suggesting where to go. Not terribly important, since there’s a note describing the locations, but they’re nice features 🙂

    The quest “The Failed World Tree”, which involves collecting slimes while doing “A Dark Influence” is listed as being a “complete the quest” step at the first step of “A Dark Influence” even though you have until the third step to actually finish killing slimes. Also, that first step [use the orb at Vordrasl’s Tears, I believe] did not autocomplete like the next two steps did. That might have been because I was messing around with the Failed World Tree, though, and going back and forth between the two steps.

    There’s a step in Thor Modan that says “If you have a flying mount turn in a quest.” It might be useful to put “If not, just move onto the next step” so people don’t think they’re supposed to run up there either way.

    The quest “A bear of an appetite” is listed as being a “do all at once” the first time you’re in the area, but you actually go back to that area once more before you’re directed to turn it in. This is the way its worded in the official guide, but I’ve always just done it in two steps and it seems to work okay. Doesn’t really matter either way, but I figured I’d mention it since I’m saying all this anyhow.

    There was a step labeled “Going down in Dun Algol” where you put on the iron dwarf disguise and travel to the place where you kill the Thane with the pet gollem. It didn’t autocomplete when I got there. I think its possible for it to behave that way?

    Also, I didn’t notice a comment about how you can mount up and then use the disguise. I might have just missed it, but if not adding it would probably help people who haven’t done the zone before.

    Finally, there was weirdness with the quest “My heart is in your hands.” THere was a “collect 5 mojo” step which went just fine, but when I got them it sent me back to the tower where you loot the heart instead of to the brazier to summon Drakuru. I’m really not sure what happened there.

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      Mar 6, 2009 @ 5:23

      This is an okay place to putThis is an okay place to put feedback, but it would be better if it was on the [url=]Works in Progress[/url] or [url=]Mistakes[/url] pages. See [url=]this comment[/url] for details on where to put what feedback, I’m going to try to incorporate this into the “How to Contribute” guide soon.

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    Mar 7, 2009 @ 10:44

    Horde 41-51 UPDATEHey folks,

    I just finished testing and doing a massive revamp on the Horde 41-51 section. It’s far from perfect, but also much better than it was. This shouldn’t receive the “quality” sticker just yet, but it’s definitely play-able now and shouldn’t have any major problems. Most remaining issues are stylistic and will be fixed slowly as folks play it through.

    The file can be downloaded [url=]here[/url], is linked in the table above, and will be part of the next addon release.

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      Mar 7, 2009 @ 12:01

      just wanted to say I lovejust wanted to say I love you <3 !

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    Mar 9, 2009 @ 6:37

    Death Knight Guide?It is possible I missed it as I just uploaded the addon, but I do not see a guide for Death Knights in there starting area. I am using your death knight leveling guide without the addon and would like to continue down that path. Is there a plan for this or did I just miss it somewhere?

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      Mar 9, 2009 @ 7:17

      I think they are currentlyI think they are currently being put into addon form.

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      Mar 30, 2009 @ 0:13

      TomTom doesn’t currentlyTomTom doesn’t currently work in that area if I understood correctly, I don’t know the current situation but I’m sure it’ll be added when the problem is solved.

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    Mar 10, 2009 @ 20:00

    Small typo in Horde 21-31 addonSection: Thousand Needles (28-30)
    Quest: Wind Rider

    Text states ‘The eggs are on the group.’

    I believe ‘group’ should be ‘ground’.

    Thanks for the hard work, Jame. Best guides out there, period. I’ve been using them for about 2 years now on tons of characters and the addon version is icing on a very good cake.

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      Mar 13, 2009 @ 1:19

      I will go ahead and correctI will go ahead and correct in the next interation of the 21-31 addOn.

      Good catch.


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    Mar 12, 2009 @ 15:39

    Weird Issue with GuidesI’m having an issue where when I load in (with WoW-Pro’s guides not enabled in my add-on screen) the Tour Guide standard ones show, but when I enable the WoW-Pro guides through the add-on screen, the Tour Guide standard ones are gone from my in game list and only the WoW-Pro ones are left. This didn’t happen on my laptop when I started to run these add-ons (both TG and WoW-Pro’s guides showed like in the examples above) so I don’t know how to fix it.

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      Mar 12, 2009 @ 16:47

      This is a new feature in theThis is a new feature in the new version, suited for the WoW-Pro community 🙂

      Since the WoW-Pro guides are much better than the standard ones. If you want to use the standard guides, I’m afraid you’ll have to disable the WoW-Pro Tourguide addon.

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    Mar 13, 2009 @ 1:12

    Heads upThought I tell you found your Horde and Alliance leveling guides on: Wowmatrix.

    Wise things get said,
    but Few get understod

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      Mar 13, 2009 @ 1:43

      Hmmm, someone is postingHmmm, someone is posting them without permission then.

      Anyone know how we go about keeping this from happening?

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        Mar 13, 2009 @ 1:48

        Sent them this message:

        Hi,Sent them this message:

        Hi, this is Jiyambi from

        We had a user on our sight report that WoW-Matrix is hosting Jame’s leveling guides for download. Jame has repeatedly mentioned on (his website) that he will not provide those guides for download anywhere but on his site. It sounds like these guides are being provided and distributed here without his permission. Unless he has been in contact with WoW-Matrix to approve this, I would like to request that you remove these guides from your available downloads. Jame will probably contact you himself soon, but he’s pretty busy with RL right now so I thought I’d give you a heads up first.

        Thank you for your time.


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          Mar 13, 2009 @ 1:50

          DRAT! I spelled “site” asDRAT! I spelled “site” as “sight”… oh well…

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          Mar 15, 2009 @ 0:07

          Just askYou can request the add-on be taken off WoW-Matrix. I’d recommend doing this, WoW-Matrix leech bandwidth and make money from the add-ons (through advertising). It also denies WoW-Pro possible new community members.

          So if Jame asks to have the add-on taken off the WoW-Matrix program they will do it, even if they’re unwilling to at first. I know other add-on authors have had their add-ons removed from the program so it should be do-able.

          Tag. 🙂

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            Mar 15, 2009 @ 0:09

            Thanks very much for theThanks very much for the info 🙂 They have offered to do a link exchange program with us, but I’m not sure it would be worth it. Jame is in contact with them now.

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      Mar 13, 2009 @ 8:04

      checked and verifiedI checked the wowmatrix website, and indeed.

      Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide – AddOn version of Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide. (Author: Jame)
      Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – AddOn version of Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide. (Author: Jame)
      found them on :

      i do not have the wowmatrix tool installed so i cannot check if it is actually installable and downloadable.

      Go get em tiger.
      ( oh and Jahwo, i do not think they will accept your head on on the copy right infringement, since its jame’s copyright he will have to send a mail himself. Stating wich files they host and showing a link to his copyright notice. Should be a mailadress from on this website to. )

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        Mar 13, 2009 @ 8:12

        I’ve been in contact withI’ve been in contact with Laurie from WoWMatrix. Apparently they don’t “host” the files, just provide some kind of direct link to them from our site. I’m not really sure how it all works yet, I’m going to forward the conversation to Jame and let him decide what to do about it.

        Speaking of which, Jame should be more active soon, he had some RL stuff to take care of.

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          Mar 13, 2009 @ 8:22

          That makes sense. At oneThat makes sense. At one point, I was looking at how these things get posted, and people just ‘suggest’ them, and they put them up.

          I do recall Jame’s being somewhat opposed on traffic grounds, though. It is going to be near impossible to get them taken off, I bet.

          In the mean time, I’m going to use it to update my tourguide versions.

          PS, The reason I haven’t done various things recently (i.e, work on testing the 1-12 belf) is that I’ve had a few troubles with billing and haven’t been able to get on for a few weeks, hoping to have this sorted soon.

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          Mar 13, 2009 @ 18:12

          preventing them to linkThere are several ways.
          First is to just redirect all links directly to the file to the addon page itself.
          So if i go to the site and klick the link from here, it will download, but when i am not as referred from wow-pro i ban the usage.
          Kind of the same principle as anti hotlinking.

          Or redirect all traffic protocols from there to the standard error page / link page.

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      Mar 15, 2009 @ 4:25

      What’s the latest on this?What’s the latest on this? Does the update from Wowmatrix work or should I use the ones here?

      Wise things get said,
      but Few get understood

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        Mar 15, 2009 @ 6:01

        I would imagine that the WMI would imagine that the WM one would work, but to be safe you may just want to use the one on here.

        Hopefully we’ll get a blog from Jame explaining what exactly happened with this at some point 🙂

        Would just be interesting to know exactly where the community stands with regards to property, permissions and linkage.

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    Mar 14, 2009 @ 5:18

    TroubleHello, ive been a LONG time user of your guide, and just noticed tonight that you had an addon version, and was going to install it, but had issues with TourGuide, I followed your link to it, downloaded, unzipped it, and then moved the TourGuide 2 folder to the addon file just as all other addons. This worked for lightheaded and TomTom, but TourGuide is not showing up on the addon screen, is there another folder I am supposed to move from the main TourGuide 2 folder to the addon folder as well? if anyone could help with this i would greatly appreciate it!

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      Mar 14, 2009 @ 6:54

      From what it sounds like,From what it sounds like, you did everything right, don’t know what to tell ya 🙁

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      Mar 14, 2009 @ 18:20

      maybe you have anothermaybe you have [b]another[/b] Tourguide folder in your tourguide folder? It sometimes happens accidentaly when unzipping…

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    Mar 14, 2009 @ 18:42

    HELP im horde and not alliancethe add on guide continues to show me using alliance directions….. i did make a mistake at the beginning and unzip the folder intirely and place in it, then placed the whole folder in and it worked now that it works it shows me as alliance and directions to get around horde plz help me!! plz 😕 😕 😕 😕 😕 😕 😕

    Ziria – Horde Bloodelf Warlock

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    Mar 15, 2009 @ 6:29

    41-51 GuidesNot really sure where to start with this. I’ve used the addon version guides now on a new toon from level 1. They’ve been superb up until the 41-51 guides. I’ve had just innumerable issues with these. Coordinates being wrong or not showing at all. Quests being updated when they shouldn’t be (biggest problem). This seems to be mostly on chain quests that all share the same name. When you accept “Quest X” part 1, the guide updates to show that you’ve also accepted part 2. It’s especially bad when you turn in a quest and it marks the next step as being completed as well, so you end up not even picking the next quest up from the quest giver.

    Some quests are missing completely (or perhaps it was skipped due to the reasons I outlined above), but I’m in Feralas right now, and the guide told me to finish the “Screecher Spirits” quest. I didn’t have that quest. It starts in Tanaris and I hadn’t even picked it up yet. I looked in TourGuide and it showed me as 100% done with the 46 Tanaris chapter of the guide (and wouldn’t let me go back to view a completed guide either, so I can’t verify if I really did complete it or if it got skipped).

    Any ETA on the 51-60 guide?

    Edit: I just read the post below mine, and it reminded me of something. I have been directed to Alliance quest givers a couple times now. Most recently was for “The Mark of Quality” which was trying to send me to Pat McGrubben in Feathermoon instead of Jangdor Swiftstrider in Camp Mojache.

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      Mar 15, 2009 @ 8:32

      All of this was fixed in theAll of this was fixed in the most recent update of the 41-51 guide, and yes a whole section in Tanaris was missing 🙁 but it should be fixed now, I played through it on my pally.

      Also, I figured out what you meant but in the future please post the faction you are playing at the beginning of the feedback, helps us out 🙂

      I’m currently writing the 51-60 guide right now, I’ve finished a few zones. If you like I can do a partial update tomorrow with what I have so far 🙂 Thanks again for the feedback, and if you still need the guides from 41-51 be sure to download the recent update.

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        Mar 15, 2009 @ 15:11

        Thanks a ton, especially forThanks a ton, especially for the quick feedback. I didn’t even notice that the guides had been updated just a couple days ago. Very nice, I’ll give them a spin. Sorry for the confusion about faction. I thought I was posting on a page specifically for the Horde version. My mistake. Keep up the good work on the guides!

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        Mar 16, 2009 @ 14:23

        Just finished up with theJust finished up with the updated 41-51 guides. Good job cleaning those up, Jiyambi. The last few sections of it were totally smooth sailing, and it only took me 20 minutes or so to go back to Tanaris and do the stuff I’d missed earlier. I’d also like to say I like the additional waypoints. Before, we’d only get a TomTom arrow pointing us to the final destination, but in a lot of cases now I see we get waypoint arrows all along the way. Very nice indeed. Can’t wait to see the 51-60 guides!

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          Mar 16, 2009 @ 20:13

          Thanks, glad my work isThanks, glad my work is appreciated 🙂

          I’ve got the first bit of the next section done, if you’d like you can download it [url=]here (levels 51-54)[/url]. It includes an optional circuit in Searing Gorge. That was actually pretty hard to code into the addon, there are a lot of “kill” steps that have to be clicked off, so some input on that would be very much appreciated.

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            Mar 21, 2009 @ 14:09

            Unfortunately it’s going toUnfortunately it’s going to have to wait for my next “project” (my next alt). They’ve raised the leveling speed so much now that I’m already 61, and I think I skipped about 4 zones there at the end, never even setting foot in them.

            On a side note, when I finished the 41-51 guides, I was actually level 54 :jawdrop: I did do all the optional circuits and all 3 chicken escorts however.

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              Mar 21, 2009 @ 20:13

              Yeah, I dinged 61 in theYeah, I dinged 61 in the Western Plaguelands when I should have dinged 59. But I also did the optional circuits.

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                Mar 24, 2009 @ 18:05

                Try hitting 62 inTry hitting 62 in Plaguelands once 😛

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    Mar 15, 2009 @ 15:52

    Quest Collecting in a new zone (Horde)This is specifically pertaining to the Horde guide (as it is the only one I’ve used so far) but may apply to the Alliance version as well. And I hope this isn’t taken as complaining; my intention here is to give feedback to make the guides as good as they can be. So, with that in mind:

    When you start a new guide, or go to a new zone, there is often a section of the guide where you do nothing but go around and pick up new quests. In the online version of the guides it just lists all the quests for you to get in one block of text, and that works well because we can see all 8 or 10 quest names at the same time. In the addon version, we only get to see one line of text at a time, so what happens is we pick up a quest, then move to the next one and get it, then the third, etc. The problem is that this part of the guide needs to be optimized a bit. Quite often, I find myself running back and forth across a town several times to get quests when I could have picked up several of them at once from quest givers that are all in the same location.

    This likely was never an issue in the online guides (it never was for me), but given the nature of how the addon works, I think that quest acceptance order is actually something that needs to be looked at.

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      Mar 15, 2009 @ 23:25

      DEF AGREEi do find myself not collecting all the quests at once and running back and forth to get ones i could of orignally from the same area. just thought i’d let u know i understand ur pain on this 8)

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      Mar 16, 2009 @ 0:03

      Yup, this is true. As I’mYup, this is true. As I’m going through revamping guides, I’m paying close attention to this, and in the finished product this portion will be optimized 🙂

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    Mar 15, 2009 @ 15:54

    Dang double post. Sorry. MyDang double post. Sorry. My web browser flaked-out on me.

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    Tzu Iop
    Mar 15, 2009 @ 18:34

    Azshara 51-52 AllianceSome of the waypoints are pointing on world map locations and are therefore in acurate. But only the walk-to-, fly-to- and boat-to-objectives are pointing wrong.

    Neverthless the guide tells you to fly to Theramore and then boat to Auberdine. (You know whats wrong, eh.)
    I would just replace it with a “Go to Darnassus”-Objective without any waypoint.

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    Mar 16, 2009 @ 9:33

    Incorrect RouteI’m using the alliance version of the guide, had a few waypoint issues – but I gather that’s a tom-tom thing. But in the 51-52 guide after picking up a load of quests from Ironforge (passing the burden, etc) it tells you to fly to Menethil and take the boat to Auberdine.

    As the boat now goes to Borean Tundra I think that travel to SW and get the boat from there would be the best route (I’m currently flying from theramore to rutheren as I needed to train first aid anyway).

    Keep up the good work 🙂

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      Mar 30, 2009 @ 0:11

      That’s fixed download theThat’s fixed download the new version on the works in progress page using the green arrow.

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    Mar 16, 2009 @ 12:33

    Problem with GuidesI’ve used James’ levelling guides for the first part of Northrend and thought they were great. Just seen that there’s the addon and thought I’d download it for one of my alts.

    I’ve downloaded it, and all the recommended addons, and disabled Questhelper.

    When I went back in to my 33 Druid, the guide was showing the Dwarf starting quests. I’ve right clicked on it, and chosen ‘Guides’ but where (according to the well documented instructions) it should have a heading of ‘Tour Guide’ with a list of guides to the right, there’s just a small ‘Guide’ with no guide options to choose.

    I’ve started again from scratch and am causing some amusement to my guildies by coming in and out of WoW like a rabbit from its hole. Can someone please tell me what I’m doing wrong?

    Many thanks.

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    Mar 17, 2009 @ 10:28

    Dependency missing.Hi.

    I am by no means a Addon wiz. So when i stumbeled upon the msg dependency missing, i downloaded a fresh copy. Installed it, tried it.Still dependency missing, so tried to update it. Still the same.

    Trying to get the Horde guide to work.

    Done the installation by the tips you give.. help please.


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      Avr 1, 2009 @ 10:07

      DependencyThis error means that one addon is relying upon another and you dont have that other addon. In this case the horde/alliance zip files from this site require the addon “tourguide” (there’s a link at the top of the page) once you download and install that you should be right to go!

      Hope that helped

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    Mar 18, 2009 @ 1:49

    Grizzly Hills guide – minor suggestionEnjoying the Grizzly Hills guide right now. I did run into trouble with “Escape from Silverbrook” and did a quick search of wowhead. Someone there recommended viewing Jame’s tutorial video. Checking the web guide, I see that Jame does mention the video. It might be useful to mention it in the guide, too.

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    Mar 18, 2009 @ 7:53

    Hi, your guides won’t showHi, your guides won’t show up on the guide screen even though I enabled it in the character selection screen.

    Are you sure I have to put it in /World of Warcraft/Interface/AddOns? Not in /TourGuide or something?

    Either way, when selecting a guide, what is the suffix of your guides, “Jame’s”?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Mar 18, 2009 @ 17:16

    NevermindAfter logging out and in again, the guide was shown.

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    Mar 21, 2009 @ 16:21

    Hi! I’m truly loving thisHi! I’m truly loving this addon, but am having problems with the blood elf starter guide. It works fine the first time through, but instead of cycling to the next guide when you reach the end, it goes back into the blood elf guide with all action-oriented steps unchecked.

    However, when you start re-checking the boxes, you get an error saying that it can’t find Snowflake’s Blood Elf Starter zone and is going to use the current zone. When you try to check the last box (level 12), the game completely locks up and you have to ctrl+alt+del out. I’ve reproduced this error 4 times (100% of my tries), tried uninstalling and reinstalling both TourGuide and the Wow-Pro version, and nothing works.

    Still, this is shaping up to be incredible work! Keep it up! 🙂

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    Mar 22, 2009 @ 0:30

    Add onsI’ve used addon version and am really happy with it! good job guys! Now I have a new computer and am not used to Vista I am trying to open the zip files into the add on file in the Wow program except I can’t find it. There are 2 different interface files I can find but I can not find a file called Add ons. so I dont know where to open the the files too. Any help would be great.

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      Mar 24, 2009 @ 6:00

      Give this a tryAssuming you have WoW installed to its default location in Program Files, you’ll have to place the addon in C:ProgramDataWorld of Warcraftinterfaceaddons directory. I don’t have my Vista computer with me right now. Correct me if that filepath is wrong.

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        Mar 24, 2009 @ 8:31

        That’s the correct file pathThat’s the correct file path for XP. For Vista, it’s:

        C:UsersPublicGamesWorld of WarcraftInterfaceAddons

        Hope this helps.

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          Mar 24, 2009 @ 20:53

          that helped going underthat helped going under public and games is alot different here on vista vs XP got it working


          now back to carefree leveling 8)

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            Mar 25, 2009 @ 7:01

            Yay! Maybe we need an addonYay! Maybe we need an addon guide somewhere, I have heard people get confused with this because of Vista before. Heck, I was confused when I first installed Vista and it did this.

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    Mar 25, 2009 @ 22:51

    Grizzly HillsOk I have been following your guides on and off. Stopped at 70 and want to pick up on the addon version. Well I have already done all the quests in Amberpine (I think thats the name)and I want to pick up on it from here. But I am having trouble finding where to starts and trying to remember what I have done. Any help?

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      Mar 27, 2009 @ 2:30

      Scratch ThatI successfully figured it out! Have everything set up and went through! Successfully leveled 10 bars in about 2 hours at level 76. I’d say thats pretty good. Keep up the good work and thank you very much! Definitely going to use the guide to level an alt in the future.

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    Mar 29, 2009 @ 21:49

    Tomtom helpI’ve downloaded tourguide, wow-pro’s leveling guide, tomtom. However, when I log in to my char with all 3 addons enabled, Tomtom’s waypoint arrow won’t work, even though I have the option enabled.

    I’ve also disabled questhelper, but that doesn’t change anything.

    So can anyone help me out here? Would any one have a clue on why Tomtom’s waypoint arrow won’t show up for me?

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      Mar 30, 2009 @ 2:11

      Do you use cartographer? IfDo you use cartographer? If so, you don’t need TomTom, and it may be interfering. That’s the only thing I can think of off the top of my head.

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        Mar 30, 2009 @ 2:45

        NopeI don’t use cartographer for map mod, I’ve switched to mapster ever since cartographer stopped working at the start of WOTLK.

        So far I know that questhelper conflicts with the leveling mod, but I don’t have that enabled. I know for a fact that Tomtom is working, since when I accidentally died, the corpse waypoint arrow shows up. However, for some reason, tomtom just won’t work with the leveling mod. 🙁

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          Mar 30, 2009 @ 7:19

          Very strange, I’ve never hadVery strange, I’ve never had that problem 🙁

          Also Cartographer should have an updated for WotLK, I use it still 😉

          And you *can* use questhelper with the addon if you want to, you just need to have the arrow disabled.

          All that said, I just don’t know what would be causing the TomTom arrow to not work for you 🙁

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            Avr 9, 2009 @ 10:35

            Having same issue..But, it seems ONLY when it’s on a “complete quest” objective does the TomTom arrow go away. When it’s on a “Accept Quest” or “Turn In Quest” objective the TomTom arrow returns.

            It’s easy to reproduce for me, i just click the objectives complete until the next one is a Turn In Quest or Accept Quest, and the arrow pops up. If i click the objectives until the next one is complete quest; then the arrow goes away.

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              Avr 9, 2009 @ 21:13

              It sounds to me like youIt sounds to me like you might be running one of the non-WoW-Pro guides. Basically, Lightheaded automatically supplies the coordinates for quest turn-ins and accepts, but not for complete steps. Most of our guide’s steps should have those coordinates supplied. Can you tell me exactly what zone/level/faction you are playing?

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      Avr 1, 2009 @ 13:04

      You also need Lightheaded orYou also need Lightheaded or arrows won’t show up for all the quest accept and quest turn in steps.

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    Mar 31, 2009 @ 9:23

    The guide!Hey – on the addon I was level 23 and it told me get the quest “elixir of agony” but it wouldn’t let me pick it up till lvl 24.

    Also, I’m so impressed by the addon version! It’s like a dream come true for time saving >.< and tree saving from all the printing of your guide 😛

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    Avr 1, 2009 @ 4:26

    dragonblightNow that I’ve got everything up and running on the new computer I cant find the dragonblight guide I was using on my old computer. any thoughts?

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    Avr 1, 2009 @ 4:28

    dragonblightIm running as an alliance toon right now by the way

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      Avr 1, 2009 @ 15:14

      PossibilityWith the new version of the WoW-Pro mod, it disables the guides included with the original TourGuide.

      After you login, click the Addon button and uncheck Wow-Pro. When you go into the game you’ll be able to see all the included guides. Jame’s Alliance Dragonblight isn’t complete yet.

      Hope this helps.


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    Avr 2, 2009 @ 7:43

    No guide from 52-60I’ve used this guide to get to lvl 53, but after completing the last guide (52 Feralas), there are no guides from 52-60. I can see them in the addon folder…but im unable to access them in-game.

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      Avr 2, 2009 @ 16:24

      Hmmm, Jame, on the newHmmm, Jame, on the new version, is the guides file updated? I’ll look into it and get back to you shortly.

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        Avr 2, 2009 @ 18:26

        Yes, I just double checkedYes, I just double checked it. All guides are in the .xml

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          Avr 2, 2009 @ 18:37

          I checked it too, soundsI checked it too, sounds like he has an old version.

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      Avr 2, 2009 @ 17:35

      Alright, I checked the mostAlright, I checked the most recent update and those guides should show up in game, they are listed in the guide folder. Are you *sure* you have downloaded the most recent update, the one that came out yesterday?

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    Avr 3, 2009 @ 5:42

    I’ve been doing this forI’ve been doing this for awhile, but I’ve noticed, on TourGuide where’s the 77-80 guide? Seems it just stops at 77 lol. I could just read the other 70-80 guide but I’m too lazy 🙂 Any hints on where to download the newly updated one or something? :O

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      Avr 3, 2009 @ 6:24

      Jame has only written hisJame has only written his guides up to the end of Grizzly Hills. His other guides are on hold at the moment until he feels the addon is high quality. Unfortunately, it doesn’t appear that the default TourGuide has guides for anything after 72, at least on the Horde side, so that doesn’t help either.

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    Avr 4, 2009 @ 20:39

    Double Co-ordinateRed Linen Goods has two co-ordinates instead of one.

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      Avr 6, 2009 @ 1:45

      Double-Edged SwordThe good thing about this add-on is that it gets it’s coordinates from

      The bad thing about this add-on is that it gets it’s coordinates from

      This is especially noticeable in Northrend, but I’m sure it’s prevalent elsewhere. As an example, Thessarian (a major Death Knight character) is seen in MULTIPLE locations in Borean Tundra. If you have one quest and anyone stumbles further ahead and clicks on him where he is in a further quest, that location now shows up for anyone on that quest. I’ve noticed in some of the guides that the people working on that guide will tell you “he’s at the southern dot, not the northern dot” on more than one occasion. I’m trying to notice those things as I’m going through the Northrend guides.

      As I said, it’s a double-edged sword. If someone can explain this better than I have, please do.


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        Avr 6, 2009 @ 8:24

        YupBeceause in some questlines the NPC moves to a different location, the same questgiver will be noticed as having mutiple possible locations on wowhead.

        This does not have to do with someone else selectibng a part in the quest, but just wowhead getting messed up a lill bit.
        At the moment you sometimes get multiple locations, a while back it would only show 1 of the locations and you would never find him again.

        People noticing this and updating the quest files will try and work the correct NPC location for the different steps into the guide.

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          Avr 6, 2009 @ 19:50

          For addon editors: The onlyFor addon editors: The only way to do this is to remove the quest ID when directing the player to the quest turnin/accept. I think I recall Jame saying this was okay to do in these cases. Just *make sure* you supply accurate coordinates if you remove the quest ID.

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              Avr 8, 2009 @ 0:27

              Ah….I wasn’t aware of that. I’ll keep it mind as I go forward.


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    Avr 7, 2009 @ 18:59

    NewNew version!


    WoW-Pro-TourGuide_Alliance v 0.6.4 — Update April 7th 2009

    *Fixes to Hellfire Peninsula | Arannar
    *Fixes to Borean Tundra | JamesL85
    *Fixes to Howling Fjord | JamesL85


    WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Horde v0.5.2 — Updated April 7th 2009

    *Added optional circuits and fixed transitions: Plaguelands, Silithus, Hellfire Penninsula, etc. | Jiyambi
    *Added Scryer and Aldor version of Terokkar Forest | Jiyambi
    *Fixes to Snowflake’s Ghostland 12-20 | Jiyambi
    *Fixes to Hosho’s Barrens 12-20 | Jiyambi

    [hr]Big updates to come, real soon!

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      Avr 7, 2009 @ 22:11

      KooooolAnd welcome back m8 🙂

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    Avr 12, 2009 @ 12:52

    Just a quick question.Hiya, just a quick question.

    First off, I seriously love your guide. I’ve been levelling noticeably faster since I’ve started using it, and have had no problems whatsoever, save for the addon being unable to find a zone during the Death Knight starter area.

    The problem I have is more to do with understanding the guide. For example, at the moment I’m doing the Western Plaguelands guide, which is described as levels 58-58. What does this mean? At this rate I’ll hit 59 from finishing this part, when I should apparently do that after completing the next part, which is Eastern Plaguelands. What should I do?

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      Avr 12, 2009 @ 19:15

      The level ranges are justThe level ranges are just the minimum expected level you should be for that guide. If you are a little above that, it’s fine – just keep following the guide unless it asks you to do gray quests or kill gray mobs.

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    Avr 13, 2009 @ 13:09

    Completed items not staying completedThis is in reference to the Horde guide, and I’m thinking it isn’t the latest version either as I downloaded it on 5 APR and I see a new one was put up on 7 APR. That said…

    I’ve noticed in the Howling Fjord and Borean Tundra guides that every time I log into the game, some of the items I’ve already completed in that zone are now unchecked. I wish I had taken screenshots, but I didn’t so I can’t say exactly which quests it is. I’ll try the 7 APR version and see if the situation persists.

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    Avr 15, 2009 @ 4:10

    Stopped working since 3.1Stopped working since 3.1 came out, so I’m assuming it needs an update for it to work again?

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      Avr 15, 2009 @ 6:37

      same here cant get any of itsame here cant get any of it to show up

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    Avr 15, 2009 @ 5:51

    Problem with new Patch : 3.1hey every1, love your guides Jame 🙂

    the new patch just came out recently and have found a problem with the guide. I’ve loaded all of my addons and clicked the “load out of date addons” and they are all working fine except for the “wow – pro” leveling guide. When i log in, the bar that shows the line of text (the next step in the guide) is not showing at all.

    however i then went into the “interface” and clicked on “addons” and the guides are actually there. so it is only the bar that is not showing and that is makes it impossible to use the guide.

    I was just wondering if you new about the problem because this might apply to every1.

    keep up the greet work 🙂

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      Avr 15, 2009 @ 7:11

      Its not Jame’s Addon. ItsIts not Jame’s Addon. Its TourGuide that needs updated. There were a few changes to how a character is located in terms of local, along with changes to how quests and a few other things are handled. We basically have to wait until TomTom, Cartographer, and TourGuide get updated.

      all i want in life is to be happy

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    Avr 16, 2009 @ 15:00

    Slightly more specific 3.1 errorI’ve already downloaded the lastest versions of TomTom, Tour Guide and Lightheaded for 3.1 to use with the awesome Horde Tour Guide. Unfortunately any time I try to change guides, my character gets booted from the server, sometimes unable to log back on without getting summarily booted again. Through random luck I’ve somehow managed to get the correct guide up, and it’s working fine, but tried switching guide’s on an alt and the same problem occured. Do you think this might be better directed at the Tour Guide folks? I’ve told you first as the problem seems to go away for a character if I turn off the Horde Leveling Guide, allowing me to log back on the character without being re-disconnected from the server. Havn’t checked for alliance, as I have no characters on the dark side.

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      Avr 16, 2009 @ 18:21

      Specific 3.1 errorInterestingly enough, I am alliance and don’t have this issue. However, the wow-pro guides are the only guides available in TG when pre-3.1, all the guides (TG and wow-pro) were listed.

      Additionally, when the Howling Fjord guide is completed, it send you to the level 1 wow-pro guide for dwarves (can’t recall the title, but it is the first one listed).

      I am guessing that the Howling Fjord guide references the next guide (Dragonblight), which is not in my guide package, and when found missing, defaults to “Guide #1”.

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      Avr 21, 2009 @ 12:59

      Well, first problem seems fixedDownloaded the even more latest version of Tour Guide. Whatever problem was causing my origional trouble seems fixed. Now it just randomly un-remembers some quests being done that I’ve already completed. This is proving a much less serious problem as I can just click to say I did it already, but still a nuisance.

      Thanks very much for the guide. Between music and your guide, leveling my alts has been much much less the chore than it usually is for me. Can’t thank you enough for all the time I’ve saved not twiddling my thumbs having no clue what to do next.

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        Avr 21, 2009 @ 20:29

        For the quest un-checkingFor the quest un-checking problem, this will occur anytime WoW quits in a non-normal way, for example if it crashes or if you alt-F4.

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    Avr 16, 2009 @ 15:37

    ILUI love your guide addon, dude. I managed to level a warrior from 11-15 in 2 hours thanks to you. That normally, for me, would have taken around 3 hours. I had to make an account specifically to thank you for your hard work, and to say that you have some of the smartest ideas ever.(On Ruby Wings exploit, for example :D)

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    Avr 18, 2009 @ 15:42

    New Patcha new patch has come out and your addon is out of date when will it be updated?

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      Avr 18, 2009 @ 17:24

      Check the front page, you’llCheck the front page, you’ll find your answers there. The addon still works.

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    Avr 18, 2009 @ 17:26

    I’ve just started using thisI’ve just started using this addon on my lvl 30 alliance char, and found an error in Ashenvale part (bug tracker seems to be down, so I report here): after taking FP in Felwood and flying to Forest Song, the guide tells you to return quest to Kayneth Stillwind — but I don’t have any quest from him

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    Avr 21, 2009 @ 2:07

    TourGuide ProblemsI have just recently uploaded Tour Guide 3.1 and when I finished Snowflake’s Guide to the Ghostlands on my alt I got the following error:

    InterfaceAddOnsTourGuideParser.lua:88:attempt to call field’?\'(a nil value)

    I can’t find the quest bar either…anyone know what this is?

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    Avr 22, 2009 @ 16:14

    Not working on 3.1.1 :(Everything worked fine until the new patch released today – 3.1.1
    Now, TourGuide doesn’t display any of wow-pro guides (like Jame’s ) 🙁
    What shall I do?
    Update please? :<

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      Avr 22, 2009 @ 19:01

      None?It doesn’t dispaly any guides, or it doesn’t display wow-pro guides?

      At the character selection screen, click on Addons and then put the check in “Load out of date mods,” or whatever it says. Reply back if that doesn’t fix it.


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        Avr 22, 2009 @ 22:06

        It doesnt display any guidesIt doesnt display any guides with prefix [Wow-pro].
        Didn’t help :((

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          Avr 22, 2009 @ 22:10

          If you just downloaded theIf you just downloaded the most recent patch, you’ll need to check this again, because it will be unchecked and again the guide won’t be loaded. It really sounds like this is the problem, so I recommend checking one more time. Other then that, I have no idea what it could be, it really just sounds like the WoW-Pro guide specifically aren’t loading. Make sure they show up on the addon selection screen and that you have it enabled.

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    Avr 23, 2009 @ 0:16

    missing dependencyI have downloaded and installed the alliance guide, loaded out of date addons and everything, but the “wow-pro Tour Guide Alliance” is showing as “Dependency Missing”. I deleted it and reinstalled it three times, and it is still showing as this. It is not showing in my addon list once in the game and checking the interface addon list either. So…what do I do, because this looks like a really useful addon and I want to install it for my room-mate to use on his account.

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      Avr 23, 2009 @ 1:03

      At the top of this page,At the top of this page, three addons are listed which are required in order to run the WoW-Pro guide. You need to download and enable all three to get the guide to work. The links to their most recent versions can be found at the top of this page.

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        Avr 23, 2009 @ 21:34

        I didI did download all of the addons listed. still says missing dependency

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          Avr 23, 2009 @ 21:58

          The only strict dependencyThe only strict dependency the WoW-Pro guide has is Tour Guide. So if you are getting that notice, it means you either don’t have Tour Guide installed or it’s not enabled. Try clicking the “Load out of date addons” button in the upper right corner of the addon selection screen.

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    Avr 24, 2009 @ 0:23

    Just wanted to mention thatJust wanted to mention that it may just be me, but the new 3.1.1 patch has broken the guide in combination with TomTom as it no longer maps areas correctly. It’s telling me to go to Durotar, Org, etc. and pointing the arrow to Hillsbrad Foothills =p

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      Avr 24, 2009 @ 0:42

      What section are you using?What section are you using? I know section 20-30 on the Horde side has lots of issues like this, I will release an updated version of it shortly. It has nothing to do with the version, it’s just a lack of Zone tags and it causes the coordinates to malfunction.

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        Yeah it’s the 20-30 guide.Yeah it’s the 20-30 guide. The coordinates are totally wrong in each area.

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          Avr 24, 2009 @ 6:22

          Try replacing those filesTry replacing those files with [url=]these ones[/url] and let me know if that helps.

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    Avr 24, 2009 @ 9:22

    Any news?Hi, any news about a new release? 😉

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      Avr 24, 2009 @ 9:53

      Jame is off doing RL stuffJame is off doing RL stuff until Sunday. After that, I would imagine a new release would be on the way 🙂

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    Avr 24, 2009 @ 23:28

    reporthello all
    just to report one thing. just loaded thousand needles guide and after first 2 steps it says i should fly to thalanaar but i dont have fp there. i didn’t level till now by the guide and i might be missing some steps from previous parts but if i remember corectly written guide says that i should run there. so maybe it would be possible for addon to track down weather you have fp or not, and if you don’t, tip turns into “run to” tip with appropriate coords. this isn’t much of an issue to me but for someone leveling for first time could be confusing.

    anyway, thanks for great addon and all work you guys put into this.

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      Avr 25, 2009 @ 0:18

      As far as I know, it’sAs far as I know, it’s impossible for Tour Guide to check and see if you have a flight path – it can only know the moment you actually get one, not check what ones you already have.

      And unfortunately, we pretty much have to assume someone has been following the guide all the way through, at least from Jame’s portion of the guide. So if that flight path was picked up previously in the guide, the instructions won’t be included again. However, if it hadn’t yet been picked up, the instructions *should* have been included. I know nothing about the Alliance side though, so I can’t really tell you much there.

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    Avr 25, 2009 @ 1:26

    cant get it to load 🙁 I am getting this error message when wow loads, ive uninstalled and re downloaded 3 times same one every timetempt here it iS:

    InterfaceaddonstourguidGuidList.lua:15:attempt to call global’LibStub\'(a nil value)

    i would appreciate any help i have heard so much about this add.

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    Avr 26, 2009 @ 16:57

    when i downloaded the lvlwhen i downloaded the lvl guide for the horde a got this script

    sow the last part is missing

    plz help me

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    Mai 1, 2009 @ 21:24

    Alliance DragonblightHi, compliments for all the good work, when will the alliance dragonblight part come out?

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      Mai 3, 2009 @ 3:26

      It’s Out….It is out, it’s just a manual download and install. I just finished doing the second pass through it. I fixed quite a bit, but it’s still not 100%. I’ll have the upload link updated on the [url=]Works in Progress[/url] page shortly.


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    Mai 2, 2009 @ 18:34

    ???? 3.1.1 version not uploaded yet??is there a version for horde that has Grizzly hills for 3.1.1 yet???? i cant level without this thing!! thanks!

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      Mai 2, 2009 @ 20:12

      Check the front page please,Check the front page please, it has update information. There isn’t a new version of our guides but you can run the outdated version just fine as long as you update TourGuide and TomTom. See the post on the front page for details.

      If you are talking about some specific update to Grizzly Hills, there isn’t one and I don’t think there is even one in progress right now. Is there something specific that needs to be updated?

      Also, more question marks does not make your post get answered faster, and annoys mods >_<

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    Mai 3, 2009 @ 8:47

    bug against nigfflevarWhen you need to complete the Q,it sends you to grizzly hills while the Q ends at explores league outpost;)

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      Which?Horde or Alliance?


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    Mai 4, 2009 @ 5:39

    UpdateHey, when will the ” WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Alliance ” be updated to work with 3.1.1?

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      Mai 4, 2009 @ 6:03

      Please read the [url=]updatePlease read the [url=]update post on the front page[/url]. The guide is labeled out of date but works fine as is.

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    Mai 4, 2009 @ 9:34

    Using TG for the 30-40Using TG for the 30-40 range. But I am not getting any coords for many of the quest pickups and hand-ins.
    As far as I can understand the addon should be getting these coords from Lightheaded. I got Lightheaded installed and it finds all the quests, but there are no coords listed for the NPC. Any tricks to fix this?

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      Mai 4, 2009 @ 9:49

      Horde or Alliance? I canHorde or Alliance? I can check and make sure that section has the quest IDs listed – if it doesn’t, Lightheaded won’t be able to find them. Are other sections working correctly?

      EDIT: Also are other coordinates showing up, like for quest complete steps? Check and make sure TomTom is working for other steps, and make sure everything is enabled (you’ve probably already done this bit it bears mentioning).

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        Mai 5, 2009 @ 8:45

        Its Alliance, I am at theIts Alliance, I am at the Desolace part, level 37.

        TomTom is popping an arrow for where you complete with a chest or an item etc. (coords been written in manual?) Checkpoints etc is also no problem, only when picking up and handing in quests to NPC’s.
        TG seems to load the QID’s proper.

        When I open Lightheaded and search up quests, none of the quests I checked, have coords to their NPC.

        Is there different builds for Lightheaded(used the link from this site)?

        Couldn’t find anything wrong in options, though I will go over it again when I come home this evening.

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          Mai 5, 2009 @ 10:47

          Hmmm. I don’t really knowHmmm. I don’t really know how lightheaded works, but I know there are like four modules are parts to it. It might be possible that you are missing one part, have you tried re-downloading Lightheaded?

          EDIT: Also you might want to fool around in the in game Tour Guide options, it has some settings for Lightheaded corods there.

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            Mai 5, 2009 @ 13:36

            Tried to reinstallTried to reinstall Lightheaded without success.
            Will try checking in the TG options, very possible I’ve forgotten something there.
            Cheers for the help

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    Mai 8, 2009 @ 4:13

    Problems with vistaI loaded all the guides as instructed. Only TomTom and tourguide show in my add on list (used the cure client). I have reloaded several times. I’m on a Vista OS. My other PC with XP worked without a hitch. Help?

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      Mai 8, 2009 @ 5:25

      I’m really sorry to sayI’m really sorry to say this, but Vista sometimes just breaks addons. It’s never happened to me, but I have a friend who can no longer get new addons due to Vista.

      Check and make sure you are using the correct folder, Vista’s addon folder is:

      Public/Games/World of Warcraft/Interface/Addons

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    Mai 8, 2009 @ 4:18

    Level 21 – 22 GuideI finished everything, started at level 21 and didn’t even make it to 22.

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      Mai 8, 2009 @ 5:27

      If you are playing the HordeIf you are playing the Horde side, there is some grinding involved at that level (though it should only be a few minutes, and that’s with zero rested XP). Jame wrote these guides when quest drop rates were lower, so more “grinding” was just included in the normal quests, so now occasionally you might fall a little behind. But honestly this has only ever happened to me on my speed leveling testing toon, where I have zero rested XP and do no instances. If you fall behind, the best way to catch up is to do an instance, if you can find people to help you. It gets you gear and XP!

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    Mai 13, 2009 @ 9:14

    Bad guide linkHi all.

    The “[WoW-Pro | Boston’s Dwarf/Gnome] Dun Morogh (1-12)” Alliance guide (000_1_12_Bostons_dwarf_gnome_starter.lua) refers as next guide the “Loch Modan (WoW-Pro | Boston’s 12-14)” guide – but there is no such guide, since it is named “[WoW-Pro | Boston’s 12-20] Loch Modan (12-14)”.

    And I have been said that this Dun Morogh guide does not bring you to level 12 and that you need some farming to reach that level, even using the +10% experience item – I don’t know if one of you tried that.


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    Mai 14, 2009 @ 20:37

    New versionsNew versions out!


    [*]NEW: Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide Dragonblight | JamesL85
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide Zangarmarsh | Arannar
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide Terokkar (Aldor) | Arannar
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide Terokkar (Scryer) | Arannar
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Alliance leveling GUide Borean Tundra | JamesL85
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Alliance leveling GUide Howling Fjord | JamesL85
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Alliance leveling GUide Grizzly Hills | JamesL85
    [*]MISC: Fixed the TOC. Addon will no longer appear as “out of date” | Jahwo/Jame[/list]


    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide Nagrand | Jiyambi
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide Howling Fjord | Jiyambi
    [*]REVAMP: Mannovan’s Undead Starter | Skully0815
    [*]REVAMP: Snowflake’s Ghostlands | Skully0815
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (21-31) | Jiyambi
    [*]MISC: Fixed the TOC. Addon will no longer appear as “out of date” | Jahwo/Jame

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      Mai 15, 2009 @ 2:46

      DragonblightI can’t take the credit for the original guide. There were 2 of them that were posted in different places and I can’t remember which one I used. I just did a revamp on it.


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      Mai 20, 2009 @ 1:03

      Some issues (bug with TourGuide or the guides?)I am not 100% sure if this is bug in the TourGuide or in the guides LUA somewhere but on one of my toons I get this error:

      Date: 2009-05-20 01:55:19
      ID: 1
      Error occured in: Global
      Count: 1
      Message: ..AddOnsTourGuideParser.lua line 88:
      attempt to call field ‘?’ (a nil value)
      [C]: pcall()
      [C]: LoadAddOn()
      ..FrameXMLUIParent.lua:229: UIParentLoadAddOn()
      ..FrameXMLUIParent.lua:252: CombatLog_LoadUI()
      Swatter, v5.4.4157 (WallabyII)
      TomTom, v216
      TourGuide, v3.1.0.51
      WoWProTourGuideAlliance, v0.6

      The error disappears if I disable the guides from this site. Also tried without TomTom or Swatter (Which I used to copy the error message).

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        Mai 21, 2009 @ 15:17

        Found the problemProblem seems to be caused by some broken savedvariables so when I removed both the toon’s and account’s TourGuide saved variables it started to work again.

        Delete/move following files:
        World of WarcraftWTFAccountACCOUNTNAMESavedVariablesTourGuide.lua
        World of WarcraftWTFAccountACCOUNTNAMESavedVariablesTourGuide.lua.bak
        World of WarcraftWTFAccountACCOUNTNAMEServer NameToonNameSavedVariablesTourGuide.lua
        World of WarcraftWTFAccountACCOUNTNAMEServer NameToonNameSavedVariablesTourGuide.lua.bak

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    Mai 22, 2009 @ 14:23

    I do not have the menu bar option under my mini map :-(If I click it nothing happens. I went into interface to open the addon/tour guide/wow pro levels/ and it ended at Horde Borean level 70-72. I am now on level 74 and trying to load that guilde, but it’s not available for me. It absololutely ends at 72. What now?

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    Mai 26, 2009 @ 17:12

    Quest completHow to see if u have completed a quest or not?? example my 28 druid followed the Bostons guide 28-29
    The guide told me to go to Wetlands and pick up a quest when i got there and talked to the guy i where suposed to get lightforge iron but the guy coulnt give me the quest only some other quest that the guide says nothing about help

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    Mai 26, 2009 @ 20:15

    New here, like to helpHello there,

    I am totally new here meaning I have just created an account on wow-pro. I have been using the guides for quite a while now (also before the addon-versions were released) and I absolutely love them! Can’t imagine to level without them. 🙂

    So I’d like to help out and test some of the guides that still need testing. Preferably one of the starting guides.

    Is there anything I need to know when testing a guide? I have read a lot about how to write a guide but I think there are so many good leveling guides already in the addon that it’s not necessary to start a new one. 😀

    I think I’ll go and play through a guide and post my experiences here if that’s okay?


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      Mai 26, 2009 @ 22:08

      If you want to just test aIf you want to just test a guide, just pick one and post any mistakes your find here. That’s fine.

      If you want to revise the guide yourself (which is even more helpful), read the [url=]How to Contribute[/url] page, and then post on the [url=]Works in Progress[/url] page with the guide you plan to revise.

      It’s fine to just test though, just be sure to be very clear in the notes you make so that we can correct them easily. 🙂

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        Mai 27, 2009 @ 11:01

        Sure. Thanks for the quickSure. 🙂 Thanks for the quick reply.

        I will go for Snowflake’s Bloodelf (1-12) Guide since I’m starting a new character. I’ll post here when I’m done. 😉

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        Mai 28, 2009 @ 23:42

        Have played through theHave played through the guide now and there were few problems with coords and missing description where to find an npc if coords don’t work. I’ll fix it myself and have added myself to the list on the “addons in progress” page now. 🙂 Hope that’s ok?

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          Mai 29, 2009 @ 2:02

          More than okay I haven’tMore than okay 😉 I haven’t looked at the new file yet, but from the sounds of it you did a great job 😉

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            Mai 29, 2009 @ 19:42

            thanks again.

            btw. i:D thanks again.

            btw. i noticed that the link to the “work in progress” page on this site links to the old version and not the new one ( 😉

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    Mai 27, 2009 @ 17:41

    I have installed theI have installed the “WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Horde” and when I go to addons it says beside WOW Pro Tour Guide that the dependency is missing.

    What do I need to do to fix this?


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      Mai 27, 2009 @ 20:06

      You need to download TourYou need to download Tour Guide, you only downlaoded the guide itself, not the addon that reads it. On the download page, it should have links to all of the required addons – you’ll also need TomTom and Lightheaded if you want the guide to work correctly.

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        Mai 27, 2009 @ 22:35

        thank youthank you

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    Mai 27, 2009 @ 19:32

    WoW InterfaceI’m trying out the MMOUI Minion beta from WoW Interface. One of the things I noticed is that it has “Wow-Pro Tourguide Alliance 1-80 by WoW-Pro Community” listed as one of the mods that it will update (v.

    I didn’t think Jame wanted this out on the auto-updaters.


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      Mai 27, 2009 @ 20:07

      I’ll make sure he hears ofI’ll make sure he hears of this, you are right I don’t think he wants this auto-updating.

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        Mai 27, 2009 @ 21:39

        UpdateI went out to and searched for the mod there. I tried several things and it’s not listed as one of the mods for download at their site, but it is listed in the Minion.

        Just an FYI.


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          Mai 27, 2009 @ 23:03

          Now that’s just plain weird.Now that’s just plain weird.

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            Mai 28, 2009 @ 5:34

            HmmmI hope you’re talking about the whole “WoWInterface” thing being weird and not me……Although…..

            I’ve been called a LOT of things….Weird would definitely be one of the nicer things I’ve been called….



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              Mai 28, 2009 @ 6:35

              Haha, yes the WoWInterfaceHaha, yes the WoWInterface thing, not you.

              Weirdness is something you should aspire to, not be ashamed of. 😉

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                Mai 28, 2009 @ 7:04

                agreed 😉 agreed

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                  Mai 30, 2009 @ 0:48

                  The Strangeness Continues……I decided to start my Curse Client back up to fix what the beta of Minion had screwed up and was going through fixing things.

                  I made it to TourGuide and guess what…..Version Beta…..Coincidence?????


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                    Juin 1, 2009 @ 2:56

                    Actually, that makes senseI think that clears it up quite a bit. Just from messing around with Minion, it looks like the way it searches for addons is just a simple text search. It probably found the “TourGuide” in the title and matched it up to the actual TourGuide addon. Don’t know why it didn’t match up for me, but maybe I had a later version of the Minion engine. I didn’t download it until yesterday. And they put out a new version today as well which seems to be working better. Yesterday it was trying to update things like each individual Auctioneer component separately. Today it is seeing the Auctioneer suite as just one addon.

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      Juin 1, 2009 @ 2:50

      MinionThe horde guide was listed as well, but it said “Addon not available” next to it in red. Minion just scans your entire addon directory and tries to match them to what is on the WowI site I think. I right-clicked it and selected “Ignore Permanently” and it no longer shows up. Had to do the same thing with a few addons that I got off Curse.

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    Juin 4, 2009 @ 15:59

    Works fine!Hello,

    I am currently leveling a horde Druid, started with the guide at lvl 30, and I am now lvl 36. The addon works really well, and I found 2 small things that were not right:

    – When I had to fly to Hammerfall and get some quests, the addon said I needed to take the quest ‘Crystal in the Mountains’. But you get the quest from an item drop, for example from the Witherbark Trolls, but the addon says you need to do that quest after this one.

    – The Herculars Revenge quest, with the 3 flames. In the yeti cave are 2 flames, but when you light one of them, the addon says you need to move on already to the next step.

    It are just details 🙂 For the rest, it really works fine!
    Keep up the good work!

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    Juin 6, 2009 @ 16:52

    Tour guide not showing on one altThis is crazy, but for some reason the Tour Guide bar isn’t showing on one of my alts. It’s configured correctly in the addons configuration in the character selection screen. I must have changed something about the interface for that alt a while ago, but I can’t remember. Does anyone have any ideas?


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      Juin 7, 2009 @ 0:07

      If you open your interfaceIf you open your interface options, go to the addon tab, and find the Tour Guide section, there should be a “reset to defaults” button or something similar. That will hopefully let you find the window again.

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    Juin 6, 2009 @ 23:52

    go into the wow interface optionsin wow go to your interface options then in the addon tab look for the torguide addon and inside there you can reset the position of the things you need

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    Juin 14, 2009 @ 9:12

    Mistake in Horde 51-60On the quest ‘Wild Guardians’ (part 2). It says you should go to ‘Owl Wing Ticket’, it should actually be: [i]’Owl Wing T[b]h[/b]icket\'[/i].
    Other than that great guide! 🙂

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    Juin 14, 2009 @ 20:17

    No mapped coords for some stepsI’ve recently been using the ghostlands guide and then Jame’s guides to level an alt. However, in the ghostlands guide some steps (usually a go here and kill mobs, or a go here and grind quest drop) weren’t getting mapped. Now in the barrens this is even more annoying, as for a quest such as Betrayal From Within (to give an example) I don’t have coords for killing things. However, I did have coords for Dar’khan’s lieutenant.

    I’ve reinstalled lightheaded (doubt that was it, as LH only does NPCs, I thought), tourguide and tomtom, but no luck.

    Anyone got any ideas?

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    Juin 15, 2009 @ 14:54

    Testing Horde Howling Fjord GuideI just ran a Shaman (starting at level 70 with under 2% into 70) through the Howling Fjord guide. I started a little late in the guide (I believe I started it at the top of the first lift in the Bleeding Vale), but used it the whole way through. I must say, excellent work.

    Now, I am working with a Warrior (starting at the same XP point 70-2%) and I have found a few errors thus far.

    How would I report issues that I have run into while using this guide?

    Is there any information that is useful that may seem unimportant to a tester but would be for the guide writers?



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      Juin 16, 2009 @ 0:10

      Our bug reporting site seemsOur bug reporting site seems to be down for the moment, so just post any bugs (or errors in this case) you find as comments on here. Include the section you are talking about, and also if you are using the Horde or Alliance guides. Also make sure you are using the most recent version of the guides.

      That’s about it, thanks for testing!

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        Juin 23, 2009 @ 13:57

        Bug Report – Howling FjordJiyambi,

        I am sorry not to get back to you until now.

        Guide: Howling Fjord – Horde
        Version: v0.6

        I found the following issues:

        1) No TomTom Waypoint Arrow appears for the Bleeding Vale travel step. This step occurs after you collect the quests when you first arrive in the zone.

        2) “The Book of Runes” waypoint at (48, 24) is incorrect. It should be (68, 26) (maybe a typo in the waypoints?).

        3) “? A Return to Resting” has two waypoints instead of one. The first is at (56.90, 74.60) this takes you further away from the turn-in. This is the one that the TomTom arrow directs you two. (I didn’t go there. I will on my next run-through just to see if it updates to the second.) The second, which is correct, is at (40.30, 60.30).

        4) The TomTom Waypoint Arrow for “Unu’pe[?]” points to (47.60, 49.00) in Dragonblight, which is the Ruby Dragonshrine. It should be somewhere in the vicinity of (47.60, 79.00) in Dragonblight (again maybe a typo in the waypoints?). The guide does update when you get to the Borean Tundra.

        I will keep you updated.



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          Juin 23, 2009 @ 19:37

          No worries! Thanks very muchNo worries! Thanks very much for the feedback. I’ve been updating these sections after playtesting, so these errors may already be fixed in the versions that have not yet gone into the live release, but I’ll check.

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            Juil 1, 2009 @ 13:54

            About to complete Howling Fjord guide againWhen I placed the bug report above, I was halfway through my second character (1st Shaman, then Warrior) in the Hordeside Howling Fjord guide. I am about finish it with my Mage (yes number 3). I have 4 more classes at 70 left (Rogue, Hunter, Warlock, and Death Knight) to run through the Howling Fjord.

            When do you expect to have an updated guide that I can run through? I might just do something else if it is going to be posted in a few days/weeks.


            P.S. After going to the “? A Return to Resting” 1st waypoint, the TomTom arrow will update so that you will be directed to the 2nd waypoint.

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              Juil 1, 2009 @ 19:16

              Are you using the currentAre you using the current version, or the one downloaded from the works in progress page?

              Unfortunately I am not able to release new official versions of the guide, and Jame has been MIA for a while dealing with RL stuff.

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    Juin 15, 2009 @ 19:58

    Guide – Terokkar forest aldor/scryerI’ve just finished Hellfire with my druid alt, for leveling-gear so am lvl 67 now. I want to continue in Terokkar Forest, but on the guides to Terokkar you can chose Aldor or Scryer guide. The problem is that it’s the same guide even though it in the guide menu says Terokkar Forest – Aldor and Terokkar Forest – Scryer.

    So I feel kinda stuck… 😕

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      Juin 16, 2009 @ 0:14

      Okay, so I was the one whoOkay, so I was the one who coded the separate guides, and I see I made some copy/paste errors. These errors appear to be with comments only, so the guides should still work as intended (they have the three or four separate quests entered correctly from what I can see). But I will fix this error and upload a new Scryer guide.

      Sorry for the confusion and thanks for reporting this!

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    Juil 8, 2009 @ 15:24

    installinghow do i install it? i dont fint that wow interface…. can u explain it to me?

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      Juil 8, 2009 @ 20:38

      Installation is prettyInstallation is pretty clearly described at the top of the page. Did you have any specific questions?

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    Juil 13, 2009 @ 0:18

    New addon version!New versions out! Thanks for being patient, folks. Unfortunately, I haven’t been keeping track of who updated what section, but I do know *which* sections were updated.


    [*]NEW: Jame’s Alliance Death Knight Leveling Guide
    [*]REVAMP: Maw’s Human Leveling Guide (1-12)
    [*]REVAMP: Snowflake’s Draenei Leveling Guide (1-12)
    [*]REVAMP: Boston’s Gnome/Dwarf Leveling Guide (1-12)
    [*]REVAMP: Sven’s Bloodmyst Leveling Guide (12-20)
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide – Hellfire Peninsula
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide – Zangarmarsh
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide – Howling Fjord
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide – Grizzly Hills[/list]


    [*]REVAMP: Snowflake’s Bloodelf Leveling Guide (1-12)
    [*]REVAMP: Hosho’s Barrens Leveling Guide (12-20)
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (31-41)
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Borean Tundra
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Dragonblight
    [*]FIX: Fixed the Aldor/Scryer mistake in the Terokkar guide

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    Juil 15, 2009 @ 23:11

    help me :(Ok, I downloaded the zip file, extracted it, and put it in the addons area for WoW. Thing is nothing is in my addons list when I log in. are there any mods that make it so you CAN’T use this mod?

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      Juil 15, 2009 @ 23:56

      Nah, you probably didNah, you probably did something wrong at the extracting part. Try extracting them [b]directly[/b] into the WoW addons folder. And make sure you restart World of Warcraft, new addons won’t load when WoW is open (!)

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        Juil 16, 2009 @ 0:22

        I did extract it to theI did extract it to the addon file, I also tried extracting it to my desktop and then copying it to the addon file.

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      Juil 15, 2009 @ 23:58

      Check the FAQ Page forCheck the [url=]FAQ Page[/url] for some ideas. Here is the relevant section:

      [size=15][b]Why aren’t my addons showing up on the addon selection screen?[/b][/size]

      [list]If you have Vista then you have to extract the files to a slightly different location than with XP (see [url=]here[/url]).

      I have also seen several occasions in which, despite the guide being where they should be and everything working as it supposedly should, the guides do not show up in game. 100% of these cases occurred on Vista computers. Rumor has it there is an addon bug of this nature that is inherent in Vista. I have not heard of a method for fixing this, if anyone learns of one please let us know![/list]

      Basically, make sure you are putting everything in the right folder, try moving the folder to the Vista location (if you have Vista). As far as I know, there is no reason why any other addon would cause these to not show up in the selection screen. Another addon might prevent them from working once you get into the game, but no matter what, as long as they were “installed” correctly, they should show up on the character select screen.

      What operating system are you using?

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        Juil 16, 2009 @ 0:21

        I have Vista and I haveI have Vista and I have looked at the FAQ

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          Juil 16, 2009 @ 0:32

          Yeah, unfortunately what’sYeah, unfortunately what’s there is all I know on the subject. This problem is extremely irritating, I have a very good friend in my guild who can’t use any new addons because of it. If you do find out what is going wrong and are able to fix it, please let us know. It’s very frustrating not to be able to help people get the addon working 🙁

          If you really want to, you could try reinstalling WoW (ugh I know) – but this is probably not worth it. As awesome as the addon is, you can still use the “paper” guides if you want to.

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            Juil 16, 2009 @ 5:12

            haha ya true, i am not veryhaha ya true, i am not very computer savy, I wish I was but ya I never mess with that stuff, guess I will stick to windowed WoW and reading the online guide 😛

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    Juil 25, 2009 @ 15:31

    Problems with German WOW clientHi,

    this guide is great. However I have a major problem with the Addon bcs my WOW client is German, and so all area names (e.g. “Stranglethorn Vale”) are also German (“Schlingendorntal”). Unfortunately one of the Addons requires English names for the areas, otherwise it assumes that the actual area is correct, which always fails when you have to go to another area.

    Solution 1): Install English WOW client (sure 🙂 )

    Solution 2): Change English area names to Germsn ones

    I would like to do no. 2 myself, can you provide me enough information to locate these English area names in the configuration files of the addons?


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      Juil 25, 2009 @ 19:17

      I think you can find theI think you can find the info on the [url=]How to Contribute[/url] page. If not, just ask again and I can try and help.

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      Juil 31, 2009 @ 14:54

      Zone names in guidesHello Ramazotto.

      The files you need to work on are located in the “WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Alliance” or “WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Horde” folders of your “Addons” folder, not in the TourGuide one.

      You will see plenty of “xxxx.lua” files in these folders, all in the following form:

      [code]TourGuide:RegisterGuide(““, ““, ““, function() return [[


      The <param1> parameter is the title of the guide – it will be displayed as-is in the guide list.
      The <param2> parameter is the title of the next guide – TourGuide will start that guide once you have finished this one.
      The <faction> parameter is either Alliance or Horde.

      But the <param1> and <param2> should be expressed in the following format:
      <area> (<additional details>)

      As you can see, a guide is related to an area, and that area is specified there. The addon will look in the game’s area list if it finds an area of this name, and will use that area for all the coordinates of the guides. That’s what you need to translate to avoid the “Cannot find Zone…, using default” message in-game.


      [code]TourGuide:RegisterGuide(“Redridge Mountains (WoW-Pro | Boston’s 15-18)”,
      “Westfall (WoW-Pro | Boston’s 18-20)”, “Alliance”, function() return [[


      This guide is related to the “Redridge Mountains” area. All the coordinates expressed in that guide are meant to be in this area. If your game does not know any “Redridge Mountains” area (because you are not playing an english version of the game), each time it finds a step in the guide with a coordinate, you will have the “Cannot find Zone…, using default” message.

      But some guides are referring locations OUTSIDE of the current zone. For the corresponding steps of that guide, you will have the following information: “|Z|<area name>|”.

      Example, extracted from the Alliance “002_52_53_Jame_Felwood.lua” guide:
      R Felwood |N|Run back through the tunnel to Felwood. (27.90, 34.50)| |Z|Winterspring|

      This guide is a guide for Felwood. So, all the coordinates are meant to be Felwood ones.
      But during that guide, you were asked to go and validate a quest in Winterspring (quests don’t need coordinates, they are extracted from the Lightheaded addon). Then, you are asked to go back to Felwood by using the tunnel located at (27.90, 34.50), in Winterspring. You need to specify it with the |Z|…| tag. If you forget that tag, the arrow will indicate that coordinate, but in Felwood instead of Winterspring.

      So, to summarize: to have correct waypoints if you are not running an english version of Wow, you need translate 2 things in the .lua guide:
      – the title one, in the “TourGuide:RegisterGuide()” line
      – all the steps referring areas by the |Z|…| tag

      I forgot one thing: the .lua files MUST be UTF8-encoded.


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      Août 1, 2009 @ 13:47

      My Language Version of theMy Language Version of the WoW-Client is also German, but I didn’t have any big problems. When I am in a Zone where there are quests out of the guide, the Addon TourGuide prints a Message like [i]”Cannot find Zone ‘Stranglethorn Vale’. Using current Zone.”[/i]

      The only problem that appeared was that i had to check objectives like “go to zone X” by myself (the autocomplete-function doesn’t work here) but that worked just fine. I am using the latest Version of TourGuide and TomTom from, and installed the guide-package from this website here.

      Great Guides btw, thx! 🙂

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    Août 1, 2009 @ 16:15

    Mac IssueI’ve looked around for the answer to my question, however, have not found it.
    Is it possible to get this on a mac?
    And how so?

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      Août 3, 2009 @ 14:12

      All addons are Mac-compatibleAll the World of Warcraft addons are compatible with Macintosh.

      You need to create an “Addons” folder in the “Interface” folder of your World of Warcraft’s folder (but most of the time is it already created). And you need to put the addons you want in that folder.

      Then, when you select a character in the game, you will have an “Addons” button bottom-left – clicking it will enable you to activate/deactivate the addons for your characters.

      You can refer to your game’s manual, I’m sure it’s specified somewhere!

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    Août 5, 2009 @ 2:14

    3.2ok so i have no idea if you have an update for this addon for the 3.2 patch because now its failed completely for me. this addon was my life and now that its gone whenever i log on my guy just sits there and im at a lost with what to do

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    Août 5, 2009 @ 2:30

    Patch 3.2 DiscussionHi folks,

    I’ve created a [url=]news post discussing the 3.2 patch and update information[/url]. Please direct all your questions there. I know it’s frustrating, we’ll get the addon working again as soon as we can.

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    Août 11, 2009 @ 7:38

    wow. very cool.yay. I’m coming back to wow to start fresh with my girl friend and check back to wow-pro to see what happened here just to see that my little guide for bloodmyst was incorporated into parts of your addon.

    gonna test that one for my night elf druid now. feeling damn excited about it 😀

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    Août 12, 2009 @ 13:24

    Really liking this guide soReally liking this guide so far 🙂
    But i noticed one of your notes is wrong.

    Zangermarsh 63-63 – Maktu’s Revenge.
    The mob is underwater near the island, not on the island.

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    Août 12, 2009 @ 22:58

    Un’Goro CraterOk well im at the part in the guides that have to do with ungoro and almost all of the quests are giving “Tourguide:Cannot find zone “Un’goro Crater” , using current zone” i remember this happening a wile back with 1 or 2 steps but now it seems every step that has to do with a quest does it.

    A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.

    A single death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic.

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      Août 13, 2009 @ 6:47

      Are you using the Horde orAre you using the Horde or the Alliance guides?

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    Août 13, 2009 @ 11:30


    (A fine is a taxAlliance

    (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)

    (A single death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic.)

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      Août 13, 2009 @ 13:23

      Alrighty. I think the issueAlrighty. I think the issue is that the G in Un’Goro needs to be capitalized, and the game can’t figure out what zone to use for the waypoints. I don’t usually fix the Alliance side guides, perhaps someone else can edit this and upload it?

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    Août 15, 2009 @ 4:40

    Been using this addon to lvlBeen using this addon to lvl all my toons, and before the addon simply the guide. So today I update to the newset addon and get this.

    Date: 2009-08-14 22:16:37
    ID: 1
    Error occured in: Global
    Count: 1
    Message: ..AddOnsTourGuideParser.lua line 88:
    attempt to call field ‘?’ (a nil value)
    (tail call): ?
    [C]: pcall()
    [C]: LoadAddOn()
    [C]: pcall()
    [C]: pcall()
    [C]: ?
    [C]: pcall()
    CartographerCartographer.lua:928: LoadLoadOnDemandModules()
    [C]: ?
    [C]: LoadAddOn()
    ..FrameXMLUIParent.lua:229: UIParentLoadAddOn()
    ..FrameXMLUIParent.lua:252: CombatLog_LoadUI()
    Swatter, v5.5.4293 (WombatII)
    AtlasLoot, vv5.07.04
    AtlasLootFu, vv5.07.04
    Bagnon, v2.9.3
    BagnonForever, v1.1.2
    BagnonTooltips, v
    Bartender4, v4.4.0
    Cartographer, v2.0
    CartographerBattlegrounds, v2.0
    CartographerInstanceMaps, v2.0
    CartographerWaypoints, v2.0
    CooldownTimers2, v2.5
    DBMCore, v
    DebugLib, v5.1.DEV.130
    eCastingBar, v
    ElkBuffBars, v2.2.5-150
    Gladius, vv1.0.2
    HealBot, v3.2.0.2
    OmniCC, v2.5.6
    PvPTrinketTracker, v
    QuestHelper, v1.1.10
    SpellAlerter, v2.05
    Stubby, v5.5.4293 (WombatII)
    TinyTip, v1.4.16
    TinyTipBasic, v1.1
    Titan, v4.2.8.30200 – Revision 302
    TitanAmmo, v4.2.8.30200
    TitanBag, v4.2.8.30200
    TitanClock, v4.2.8.30200
    TitanCoords, v4.2.8.30200
    TitanCritLine, v0.6.2
    TitanFriends, v3.0.0
    TitanGoldTracker, v4.2.8.30200
    TitanHealBot, v3.2.0.0
    TitanLootType, v4.2.8.30200
    TitanPerformance, v4.2.8.30200
    TitanRegen, v4.2.8.30200
    TitanRepair, v4.2.8.30200
    TitanVolume, v4.2.8.30200
    TitanWG, v1.1.5.30200
    TitanXP, v4.2.8.30200
    TourGuide, v3.2.0.54
    TrinketMenu, v
    WoWProTourGuideHorde, v0.6
    XPerl, v3.0.5e
    XPerlArcaneBar, v
    XPerlParty, v
    XPerlPartyPet, v
    XPerlPlayer, v
    XPerlPlayerBuffs, v
    XPerlPlayerPet, v
    XPerlRaidAdmin, v
    XPerlRaidFrames, v
    XPerlRaidHelper, v
    XPerlRaidMonitor, v
    XPerlRaidPets, v
    XPerlTarget, v
    XPerlTargetTarget, v

    Any clues? Installed everything correctly, just Tour wont start up at all now *IF* I use the James lvling addon. If I dont use it it works perfect.

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    Août 17, 2009 @ 6:15

    Ok, im lost. The mods worksOk, im lost. The mods works on every toon I have, BUT the alt im trying to level…explain that to me. No other mods turned on at all, and this addon works perfectly on every toon I have, but the one im working on.

    How does that happen?

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      Août 17, 2009 @ 6:37

      Bliz screws you over inBliz screws you over in mysterious ways…

      Sorry, I have no idea why this would happen 🙁

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    Août 20, 2009 @ 22:29

    Auto-Complete?Ok I just downloaded this addon and I am having some issues – When I pick up a quest everything is all good but when I hit the little check box to show I have done this objective it automatically checks the boxes describing what to do on this quest and handing the quest in so I am just being lead to the NPC’s that offer the quest – if I uncheck these manually it will also uncheck the “I have picked this quest up” objective and Tom Tom will be kind enough to lead me back to the npc that offers the quest:S

    Anyone else had this or found a possible fix?

    I have just downloaded all of the latest versions of all of these addons and the only other addon I am currently using is a Bag addon called Combucter(sp?) Any help would be awesome


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      Août 21, 2009 @ 7:51

      If you are manually checkingIf you are manually checking off a quest objective that you have not actually completed, TourGuide gets all confused. It assumes that, since what you are saying doesn’t match what is in your guide, that you have actually already completed the quest that it thought you were on.

      So, make sure you allow it to auto-complete rather than manually checking off objectives. If you are already doing that and it’s just not auto-completing when it’s supposed to, then I’m not sure what advice to offer other than perhaps make sure all the tabs in your quest log are open. If that doesn’t work, try disabling and re-enabling the addon. Other than that, let me know specifically what step of what guide section is doing this and I can check the coding.

      Sorry for the trouble!

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    Août 31, 2009 @ 12:57

    Awesome Add onI started to use the addon and it is awesome just want to let you know. With First Mate Fitzsimmons you need to buy him the Flagon of Mead before he tells you about Quest “The Cursed Crew”. I was following the Bostons 20-30 Wetlands(28-29). Just wanted to put some input. Thanks for the great guide.

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    Sep 12, 2009 @ 5:56

    ProblemsSince the patch I keep getting a LUA error. Any ideas what I can do to fix it?
    Message: InterfaceAddOnsTourGuideGuideList.lua:97: attempt to perform arithmetic on field ‘current’ (a nil value)
    Time: 09/11/09 20:54:15
    Count: 1
    Stack: [string “InterfaceFrameXMLBasicControls.xml:<Scrip..."]:18: in function <[string "InterfaceFrameXMLBasicControls.xml:
    (tail call): ?
    [C]: ?
    InterfaceAddOnsTourGuideGuideList.lua:97: in function `UpdateGuidesPanel’
    InterfaceAddOnsTourGuideGuideList.lua:73: in function
    [C]: in function `SetValue’
    …rfaceAddOnsTourGuidetekKonfigtekKonfigScroll.lua:38: in function


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    Sep 14, 2009 @ 2:44

    where’s my arrows? Hey! I’ve used the internet guide to level characters, and I was thrilled about the prospect of trying out the addon. I was previously using questhelper and alt+tabbing. I completely deleted questhelper, downloaded tom tom, light headed, tour guide and Wow-pro guide. I am level 34, and I am in the middle of killing elder tigers for tiger mastery. The addon seems to be working fine, save that I have no directional arrows. I have nothing at all showing what I need to do next. I’ve selected “WoW-Pro Jame’s 30-40 Stranglethorn Vale 32-35. Any help?

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      Sep 14, 2009 @ 2:49

      Hmm, were the arrows thereHmm, were the arrows there before and then disappeared, or were there no arrows when you first tried out the addon?

      Not having arrows sounds like a Tom Tom problem, possibly. Are you using the Alliance or the Horde guide? If you want, you could try downloading Cartographer, as far as I know it’s arrows work great and are a substitute for TomTom, though it’s a much heavier duty addon than you may need/want.

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        Sep 14, 2009 @ 3:05

        Cartographer worked, beenCartographer worked, been meaning to redownload it anyways since my reformat. Thanks 🙂 And just so you know, I’m using the alliance guide, and there were no arrows at all. I also had nothing showing my progress, or where I was on the guide. That all showed up however when I put in cartographer.

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          Sep 14, 2009 @ 4:58

          Excellent, glad that worked.Excellent, glad that worked.

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    Sep 19, 2009 @ 15:15

    First thanks really much forFirst thanks really much for one of the best addons ever!
    The main problem is that the arrow fades when i´m near the questtarget. Say if I have 3 quests in the same area and i´m in the same area. The arrow disappears. How can I fix it? How to fix it like questhelper, so the arrow only fades out when u have completed the quest?

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      Sep 28, 2009 @ 12:29

      Out of date?For some reason when I go into the addons section of the WoW login screen it says it’s out of date, anyone know how to fix this?

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        Sep 28, 2009 @ 14:16

        It’s something that needs toIt’s something that needs to be edited in the addon’s code. For now, just hit “load out of date addons” on your addon selection screen.

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    Sep 28, 2009 @ 21:36

    Thanks and another Arrow-problemHey there!

    Thanks very much for the great addon. I m levelling much faster with it than before.

    Now to my question: Some days ago the arrow disappeared. Everything else is working perfectly. There are even the green points on the map but theres no arrow.

    Why could that be? 😕

    Thanks 🙂

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      Sep 29, 2009 @ 2:24

      Hmm, are you using TomTom orHmm, are you using TomTom or Cartographer, and is this in multiple sections of the guide or just one? I have heard of a few problems which exist within TomTom but not Cartographer, but unfortunately Cartographer is a much more bulky addon which may do a lot more than you need.

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    Sep 29, 2009 @ 20:33

    Thanks a lotI now tried it with some other guides and the problem just exists with the blade’s edge mountains.

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    Sep 29, 2009 @ 22:47

    Current versionWebsite says current version should be 0.7, but download link seems to be version 0.6.5 ?

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      Sep 29, 2009 @ 23:23

      Hmmm, *probably* just forgotHmmm, *probably* just forgot to change the version number in the update. Just in case, clear your cache and try again. Whatever is linked should be the most current version.

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        Sep 30, 2009 @ 0:29

        Tried to download fresh.Tried to download fresh. The .toc file says version 0.6 and the changelog says 0.6 as well. This is for the horde download.

        For alliance I’m seeing 0.6.5 in both the .toc and changelog.

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          Sep 30, 2009 @ 1:39

          Hmmm, I definitely thought IHmmm, I definitely thought I updated the ToC file for Horde, but I’m looking at my copy and it says 0.6. So I guess I just missed that. With the next version we’ll be sure to fix the ToC and change logs for both sides. Sorry about the confusion.

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    Oct 2, 2009 @ 10:12

    Awesome addon, littleAwesome addon, little question: In the guides list, the names of the guides are so long that the progression % is written over, how do I fix it?

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      Oct 2, 2009 @ 11:14

      Hmmm, unfortunately I don’tHmmm, unfortunately I don’t think this can be fixed 🙁 I know, it’s annoying! And the naming convention had been well established before I noticed this was occurring. I think if you select a guide, open it, and then right click it, the title appears up above. But I honestly haven’t been using the guides too much lately so my memory may be rusty (barely had time to play the main lately)

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        Oct 2, 2009 @ 12:27

        That’s the annoying part, IThat’s the annoying part, I know it’s perfectly fixable. I have two characters on different accounts, both using tourguide with Jame’s guides, and on one character the text is all squeezed together and the interface box small, on the other account the interface box is wide enough that even the Scarlet Enclave guide has enough space. I’ve been turning addons on and off and poking around in the settings, but can’t for the life of me figure out what the difference is between the two.

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          Oct 2, 2009 @ 13:40

          Hmm, perhaps it’s a videoHmm, perhaps it’s a video resolution setting that is causing the discrepancy? You may have tried that already, however. That’s the only thing I can think of that would affect this >_<

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            Oct 2, 2009 @ 15:28

            Muha! Tracked it downOn my end at least. Lots of trial and error revealed: if the addon Ackis Recipe List 1.0 is active, the frame is nice and wide:

            If the addon is not active, it’s narrow and annoying:

            To me, it makes no sense, but then I’m just the end user.

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              Oct 2, 2009 @ 15:55

              I can only assume that thereI can only assume that there is something built into the coding for Ackis that widens the interface window. I don’t know anything about addon coding myself, if I did I would totally steal whatever it was that was doing that and put it in our addon! Well, at least you solved the mystery so your second account won’t have to suffer through the trials of tiny windows 😉

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    Oct 10, 2009 @ 2:57

    SorryHey all i have been using the guides for some time now but i am now getting sick of alt tabbing and i have been trying to do the add on for about an hour now i really don’t understand it any chance someone would mind helping me through it thanks ok hope to hear soon bye

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      Oct 11, 2009 @ 13:12

      Sorry, what specifically areSorry, what specifically are you having trouble with? There’s a lot that could be going wrong and I have no way to help you unless you explain the problem. First I recommend checking the [url=]Frequently Asked Questions[/url] page to see if your problem is on there. If it’s not, go ahead and let us know what the problem is and we’ll do our best to help.

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    Oct 16, 2009 @ 11:32

    Just a quick questionFirst of all I’d like to thank you for these amazing guides, already leveld up two 80s using them and am working on a third.
    I use titanpannel as well which shows me my xp/hr and expected time until I level and when I leveled my rogue to 74 yesterday by how quickly I was getting xp using you’re guides it said 3hours to next level, which is insane imo

    When ever I level to the max level bracket of an area on your guides I skip the rest and move on, is that the best way to do it or would I be getting more XP/HR if i just kept on with the current guide?

    For example borean tundra level 71-73, went there at 71 and got to 73 with only 49% of the guide completed(Probably due to 10% xp shoulders and chest) but I still skipped to dragonblight which is labeled as 73-75 on your guide. Would it of been better for me to just keep going in borean tundra or would either option give the same xp/hr (The reason I’m asking is because I’m not sure if there is some ramp up time in new zones, i.e you’ll get more xp/hr the further you are in the guide)

    Sorry for typing so much xD

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      Oct 16, 2009 @ 16:11

      In old world or Outlands, IIn old world or Outlands, I would agree with skipping stuff if you are higher level. Or, what I usually do is just skip the sections that take place in areas I really hate.

      For Northrend, however, I definitely recommend sticking to the guide. That’s because you’ll be doing low level quests first. This leaves more high level quests available once you hit 80, and that is awesome because you get more gold for those quests than you would for the low level ones.

      Plus, Jame’s guides take you most or all the way up to 80 *if* you don’t skip anything in Northrend (and probably do a few instances). If you skip stuff, they won’t take you all the way.

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    Oct 16, 2009 @ 16:04

    Coming in halfway throughI’ve just downloaded the addon, everything is working fine.
    Now I’ve known for a while that most quest-based leveling guides are heavily reliant on chain quests. This has caused a problem for me as I am level 33 already so I am already part of the way through the guide.
    I opened up the 33-34 guide and the first quest relies on previous quests which I have not done yet. I assume that as I got further through the guide, the same situation will arise several times over. What is the quickest way to work through this problem? Start on a guide a few levels lower perhaps, and always be a few levels ahead of the guide?
    This is a situation that will happen over and over again for me as well, as I often stop questing and simply run instances or battlegrounds for 3 or 4 levels before I begin questing again.

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      Oct 16, 2009 @ 16:12

      I would recommend startingI would recommend starting one or two levels behind your actual level, and just skipping quests that required a pre-req – just as you said.

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    Oct 23, 2009 @ 10:30

    carboniteCan the guide be used whid the arrow in carbonite, or does I have to use tomtom/cartographer?

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      Oct 23, 2009 @ 12:28

      I don’t believe the arrow inI don’t believe the arrow in Carbonite (or Questhelper) works with TourGuide. However, you can always download TourGuide and Lightheaded without TomTom and try it out. If it doesn’t work, just download TomTom (or Cartographer).

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        Oct 23, 2009 @ 19:35

        Actually…I made an account on wow-pro just now to say that Carbonite is 100% compatible with Tomtom. In fact, it emulates Tomtom perfectly via, you guessed it, the Carbonite Tomtom emulator. You can find this by visiting Carbonite’s in game options window, if you need help finding it from there… just look for it, seriously.

        Tourguide, along with all the additional guides here, will work with Carbonite LOADED. You don’t need to disable it or remove it, in fact, you can run Carbonite right along side Tourguide. Yet another reason why Carbonite stomps Questhelper in a mud-hole as it has since it was made free and Blizzard purchased their code (which we will all be using come 3.3 for the new quest tracking system).

        Rules to success with leveling using the guides available here:

        1) Uninstall Questhelper
        2) If you did not uninstall Questhelper, throw your computer in the street and quit wow now
        3) Install Carbonite and turn on Tomtom emulation
        4) Install Tourguide and any additional guides such as the ones on this page
        5) Be happy you’re no longer held down by a lackluster addon like Questhelper

        If you need it broken down anymore than that:

        Carbonite = Great Compatibility With Addons, Experienced Development, Better Code

        Questhelper = Non of the Above, Junk

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          Oct 23, 2009 @ 23:29

          Different people like different things!Remember, different things are better for different people with different needs in the game. What is “Junk” to you might be something someone else finds vastly better than something you think is “OMG AWESOME”. I personally much prefer Questhelper because I hate Carbonite’s map and interface, and Questhelper meshes much better with my UI, and seems more minimal (not talking code here just what the user sees) – and I like minimal.

          Still, I know a lot of people like Carbonite, and this post is very helpful for Carbonite users who want compatibility with Tour Guide! Thanks for the information, we are going to be working on cleaning up the addon pages in the coming few days, and I think I’ll include some of this info up at the top 🙂

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      Oct 23, 2009 @ 22:32

      CarboniteCarbonite can emulate both Tomtom and Cartographer.


      /carb options

      > General

      [x] Emulate Tomtom Waypoints

      Does this mean I DO NOT have to install Tomtom for Tourguide to work?


      Do I install Lightheaded?

      Yes – Lightheaded will attach itself to the Carbonite Quest-tracker and is fully compatible with the built in Tomtom emulation.

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        Oct 23, 2009 @ 23:32

        Very nice and completeVery nice and complete answer. I think I will post this in the FAQ page for now, and possibly include at least part of it on the main page.

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    Oct 23, 2009 @ 17:05

    No TomTom Arrow?I installed all the needed addons. When I loaded WoW, LightHeaded, Lightheaded_Data_A through Lightheaded_Data_E, Lightheaded_Data_NPC and Lightheaded_Data_QIDNa… were all activated, as well as TomTom and Tour Guide. However, the Wow-Pro Horde Leveling guide is marked as out of date. I click “Load out of date AddOns” and begin to start a new Orc hunter. The Durotar 1-12 guide is loaded, and I begin to follow the guide when I discover that there is no TomTom arrow directing me. I can set my own waypoints on the map, then the arrow will appear and guide me to them, but it doesn’t seem to be cooperating with the leveling guide. Can anyone help? It’s not this particular guide either, as I tried useing a Barrens guide on another toon, and the arrow still didn’t appear.

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      Oct 23, 2009 @ 23:24

      Hmmm, it sounds like you didHmmm, it sounds like you did everything correctly. I have heard some folks having trouble with TomTom for no reason that I can tell. You could try using Cartographer instead – it is a bit bigger and clunkier addon if all you want is the arrow, though I like the maps it provides.

      Other than that, I’m not sure what to suggest other than maybe re-downloading TomTom.

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      Oct 24, 2009 @ 14:59

      If you have Questhelper,If you have Questhelper, make sure it’s arrow is disabled and the TomTom arrow is enabled from the Questhelper options menu on your map. If you’re running Cartographer, it may have the same solution. If not you can always disable the Cartographer Waypoint module on the addons page (That’s what I did, but before I had TomTom. It’s been turned off so long I forgot Cartographer had an arrow).

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      Oct 26, 2009 @ 12:59

      TomTom Arrow works on Alliance, not on HordeI’m having the disappearing arrow problem, except that it seems to work on all my alliance toons but not my Horde! I only have one Horde currently working through the Thousand Needles quests. I don’t see the green circle either.

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    Oct 25, 2009 @ 23:20

    I’ve been a happy user ofI’ve been a happy user of your guides (and lately the add-on) forever now and I truly adore them, however today I experienced a minor problem.

    I’ve just finished questing in Nagrand, half a level till 70 and felt like I still want to do some quests in BEM. Unexpectedly though, when I checked off the last step, the add-on showed me an error message telling me there is no guide to continue to. I opened the menu so I could load the BEM guide manually, but was then unable to find it – the same goes for Netherstorm and Shadowmoon Valley. Afterward I went to check the files in the add-on folder to see if the guides are even there. And, well – they aren’t.

    Now, I assume you probably just disabled those 3 guides since most people go to Northrend straight away, howvewer if that is not the case, I would very much enjoy seeing them again.


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      Oct 26, 2009 @ 0:21

      It takes a lot of time toIt takes a lot of time to code one of Jame’s guides into addon form. I had been planning to do the Blade’s Edge Mountains guide sometime, but I’ve become very busy with school and haven’t got around to it. Same goes for his partial Netherstorm guide and Kroa’s Shadowmoon guide. There just hasn’t been enough demand for these guides in addon form to justify me spending the time to code them. It’s still something I want to get done eventually, but it’s pretty low priority for me right now. There are other people working on the addon, but I think they all feel pretty much the same way.

      So unfortunately, if you want to use Jame’s guides for BEM and farther in Outland, you’ll have to use the “paper” version. I realize this pretty much sucks when you are used to the awesomeness that is the addon 🙁 Another option, if you are fairly close to 70, is to just go to Northrend early – I think you should be able to pick up the quests and you’ll probably ding 70 in no time.

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    Nov 3, 2009 @ 6:44

    Problem in Scryer guide (addon version)Hi,

    First off, awesome guide. I started using it on my 55 DK, and am now lvl 67 (and just starting the 62-64 portion of the guide).

    Second, sorry if this has already been covered. I didn’t see a search function so I could check…

    So, my problem:
    The coordinates for some places in Shattrath city are being placed out in Terokkar forest. Some quests and waypoints do point within the city, and those are great. The ones outside though, I have to look at the coordinates, and then remove the waypoint and add my own at those same coords within Shattrath. (So, I can still progress with your guide, its just a lot of micromanagement now to find where to go next)

    Any way to fix this? I am using the latest versions I could find of tourguide & tomtom. ( for tourguide, and r266 for tomtom)


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      Nov 3, 2009 @ 7:26

      You working with the HordeYou working with the Horde or the Alliance version?

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    Nov 3, 2009 @ 8:14

    Great guideI just did a test witch guide is fastest, this or Zygors.
    I testet an Dranei mage from L1-14 and whid Zygors I used around 6hours and 45min, whid Jame’s around 6hours and 10min.
    I guess I could done it around 15mins faster whid zygors if I dident die so mutch, but overall it seems like this 2 guides are around the same in speed, and as we all know, Jame’s is free.

    Yesterday I did get some lua errors, but I installed Lightheaded and they was gone and the missing tomtom waypoints was back 🙂

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      Nov 3, 2009 @ 10:20

      Awesome, glad to hear ourAwesome, glad to hear our guides are still competitive and that they are working well for you. Thanks for taking the time to give us some feedback!

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      Déc 16, 2009 @ 6:22

      Hey, I did even betterWith this guide I got 1-14 in about 5 or less hours. I watched it. This guide is great!~!!!!!

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    Nov 8, 2009 @ 19:58

    Death Knight Guide does not workHey there!

    Today i created a dk but the arrows don t work there. All other guides do work with my other chars but if i try the dk guide with my dk everytime there should be an arrow a lua error appears.

    Please help me!

    Thx 🙂

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      Nov 9, 2009 @ 2:20

      I need to add this to theI need to add this to the FAQ page.

      The Death Knight starting area is not supported by the arrow addons, I’m not sure of the technical reason behind it but there’s nothing we guide writers can do about it 🙁 The Death Knight guides have been coded with very specific instructions to try and help combat this, so you should hopefully still be able to use them. You can also always use the “paper” guides, but that’s a big letdown when you are used to the addon 🙁

      Good luck!

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        Nov 9, 2009 @ 8:32

        I think coords don’t work inI think coords don’t work in the DK start area because its an instance, one that you cant leave until you get your Death Gate spell at the end. Look at its load screen, its not Northrend nor is it EK.

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    Nov 9, 2009 @ 6:26

    HelpWhen i have these addons in my folder, WoW crashes. What do I do?
    Happens with questhelper too, which is why I deleted quest helper.

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      Nov 10, 2009 @ 23:17

      how far can you get before ahow far can you get before a crash?

      If you can get to the char select screen, disable ALL of your mods and see what happens, then enable them one by one until you crash.

      If you cannot get to the char select screen, its not an addon problem and you will need to use the repair.exe in the wow folder or reinstall the game.

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    Nov 19, 2009 @ 17:13

    A stupid questionHey there!

    I ve already played one time with the dk guide and since then i didn re- or de-install any of my addons.
    I wanted to use the guide on a different realm but i can t find it.
    I looked through a dozen times but i can t find it…
    Maybe i m just blind :/
    Could you tell me where it is in the list?

    Sorry for troubling you


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    Nov 20, 2009 @ 0:41

    TourGuide ProblemI’ve been using TourGuide since it was released and haven’t had a problem with it, until recently. When I accept a quest from an NPC or even just check mark that the quest has been accepted, the guide also check marks the quest objective and the turn-in. This happens on every character I have and/or make whether it’s Horde or Alliance. I’ve tried uninstalling and reinstalling the guide a numerous amount of times and also uninstalling all my add-ons. Any help with this problem would be really appreciated.

    Thank you,

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      Nov 20, 2009 @ 3:15

      If you manually check offIf you manually check off the accept step for the quest TourGuide will assume you have completed the quest and check off any steps with the same Quest ID. I don’t really know about that happening when you accept the quest from a NPC, but if you go and uncheck the quest objective step it should leave the accept step checked and allow you to continue with the quest.

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    Déc 7, 2009 @ 20:09

    Quest ErrorNot sure if this is the right place but;

    In the 38-40 James addon guide it lists the Secondhand Diving Gear quest as being at 42, 18 coords but it is actually 62, 18.

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    Déc 16, 2009 @ 6:26

    Just wondering.What times are people at in /played at level 17 with this? lemme see what you got compared to mine!

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      Déc 25, 2009 @ 13:03

      I got about 9 hours /playedI got about 9 hours /played at level 20 with my hunter using the Dreanei starter guides.

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    Déc 22, 2009 @ 8:09

    Hmmmmm….Hi there, I’m just curious that if i do download this addon is it going to give me a virus or a keylogger or something that will comprimise my account?

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      Déc 24, 2009 @ 23:17

      No of course it won’t.No of course it won’t. Thousands of people have used the guides and addons on this website and nobody ever caught a virus.

      This website is safe 😉

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    Déc 23, 2009 @ 14:05

    Un’Goro Crater 54-56 – Capitalization throws off CartographerAt least, I’m assuming it’s Cartographer. No directional arrows display and I get an error that says it does not recognize “Un’goro Crater” as a valid zone. Editing the .lua file and replacing all “Un’goro”s with “Un’Goro”s worked just fine, but thought you might want to add it.

    As a suggestion, I know I’d appreciate directional tips such as those in Boston’s guides that will lead you properly around obstacles. Azshara is a pita with the directions as given; sure, you need to get back up the cliffside, but there is no indication of where the closest ramp up is located.

    I used your guides in the past to level up multiple alts; I’m really loving this add-on version and am looking forward to seeing the efficiency of the Outlands leveling.

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    Déc 31, 2009 @ 20:29

    Im testing the guide andIm testing the guide and foun a tiny mistake in the 21-29 thousand needles part: In the level up check its says “you should be level 9” just my two cents

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    Jan 5, 2010 @ 8:52

    Trouble with TourguideWoW is showing tourguide as outdated, and hence I’m unable to use it. Anyone got a fix for this?

    Tourguide v.

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      Jan 7, 2010 @ 10:17

      Yea we can fix that. Go hereYea we can fix that. [url=]Go here[/url] for Gethe’s new and improved WoW-Pro guides.

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    Jan 7, 2010 @ 21:37

    This page needs to beThis page needs to be updated as you no longer need TourGuide to run the addon.

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    Jan 8, 2010 @ 13:55

    So with this new update canSo with this new update can i get rid of tour guide since tour guides out dated or no?

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      Jan 9, 2010 @ 0:56

      Yes, but only for theYes, but only for the updates provided by Gethe:

      He included the TourGuide functionalities into the ‘WoW-Pro’ addon. That’s the only folder you’ll need under /Interface/AddOns.

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      Jan 9, 2010 @ 20:25

      this is correctthis is correct you can get the latest version [url=]here.[/url]

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    Jan 20, 2010 @ 18:15

    Tour Guide + CarboniteHow can i put the Tour guide notes on Carbonite ?



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      Jan 21, 2010 @ 1:17

      TourGuide + CarboniteI’m not real sure what you’re asking, but I’ll try to answer.

      You must have the[url=] WoW-Pro addon[/url] guides (or [url=]Tourguide[/url]) active.

      You also need [url=]Lightheaded[/url]. (That’s where the info for the addon comes from)

      Carbonite is supposed to emulate the TomTom (or Cartographer) arrow, but I haven’t been able to make these work post 3.3. So I have [url=]TomTom[/url] also.

      The Carbonite HUD and arrow will work, but you will have to track the quests individually. (and you will still need the TomTom arrow for any quest pick-up steps.

      That’s what I’m doing, and I wrote and updated some of the guides.

      If anyone knows how to fix this Carbonite problem pleases answer.

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        Jan 21, 2010 @ 12:01

        I have Carbonite and itI have Carbonite and it works perfectly well with the WoW-Pro addon without the use of TomTom. Are you sure you have the latest version of Carbonite?

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          Jan 21, 2010 @ 12:19

          Yea, I just checked it againYea, I just checked it again today (3.31). My TomTom emulation hasn’t worked since 3.3 came out (it did work before). I disable TomTom and retry it about once a week. I only get the Carbonite arrow for Flight Paths and Corpse runs. Maybe it will start working some day.

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    Jan 25, 2010 @ 15:13

    WoW-Pro Leveling AddonWoW-Pro Leveling Addon Update – New Version

    A new, much improved version of the WoW-Pro Leveling Addon is now available for download! The download link is at the top of this page.

    Huge thanks to Gethe for making the WoW-Pro Addon something even more awesome than it already was.

    [url=]WoW-Pro Leveling Add-on Download[/url]

    Please make sure to delete the old WoW-Pro Add-on and TourGuide folders before installing the new version.

    Change Log:

    [*]Updated toc for 3.3

    [*]Integrated TourGuide into the WoW-Pro Add-on

    [*]Modified TourGuide to automatically open the appropriate guide for a new character(TourGuide already did this, but now it works for our

    [*]Combined the Alliance and Horde guides into one addon, only those applicable to your faction will be loaded.

    [*]Updated all guides with QID tags (Alliance updated by scoot2112)

    [*]Quest POIs are now operational!!
    [list=a][*]On every Complete, Turn-in, and |QO| step it will use Blizzard’s built in POIs and direct you towards it.

    [*]Added the |NOPOI| tag because sometimes Blizz’s don’t quite cut it.

    [*]If you use the POIs outside of the guides zone you need to use |Z|one tags

    [*]Added a Neutral folder
    [list=a][*]You can use this for dailys guides and other things that are faction independant.

    [*]When writeing a guide use “Both” as the faction and put it in this folder.

    [*]I have added Scoots Dailys guides to this folder to get us started.

    [*]Made the guide names in-game shorter to allow them to fit better in the in-game guide list.

    new format:
    [WoW-Pro|Author] Zone (zone range)

    [WoW-Pro|Jame] Stonetalon Mountains (21-22)

    If the authors name starts with an “n” there needs to be a space before it. (“|n” means create a new line)

    [*]other minor OCD changes.
    [*]Mount steps moved and updated for 3.2

    [*]Modified the circuits in the Plaguelands to make use of the new fight points at The Bulwark(Horde) and Thondroril River(Both)


    [*]Moved the transitions in Hosho’s Barrens to the end of the Tauren and Orc/Troll guides.

    [*]Split some guides that had alot of |Z| tags

    [*]Incorporated all optional quest circuits into the core guide(except Hellfire at 58, it’s still optional)
    [*]Updated Hellfire Peninsula guides to use the portals to Blasted Lands added in 3.2

    [*]Added step to Hellfire Peninsula guides to encourage getting a flying mount at 60

    [*]Added Blade’s Edge Mountains by Gethe

    [*]Added Zul’Drak, Sholazar Basin, and The Storm Peaks by Scoot2112
    [b]Death Knight:[/b]
    [*]Removed talents from DK guides as they do not work any more.

    [*]Split guide into different zones

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      Jan 26, 2010 @ 20:00

      F*cked UpHey James. Ive been using your guides since lvl 25 and it has all went fine, until i see the new update you got here, i downloaded it, and it works fine. Only 1 problem. Ive done the 3-4 levels in front of me. Im lvl 38 now and ive done 36-37 and so on. Any help would be appreacited.
      (Sry my bad english :D)

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    Fév 14, 2010 @ 22:20

    Has anyone figured out how to fix the missing arrowHas anyone figured out how to fix the missing arrow. I’ve tried everything I know how to do. I’ve reset TomTom repeatedly, uninstalled and reinstalled TomTom and the leveling add-on as well as lightheaded a number of times and I still can’t get the arrow. I’ve also tried carbonite with no success. I miss my lvling guide 🙁 Please help me! :jawdrop:

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    Fév 14, 2010 @ 22:33

    Waypoint bugWhile checking for new guides I noticed the new core addon for the IG leveling guides, so I downloaded it. I was well into the Grizzly Hills guide on my druid when I decided to install it, and when I had checked the quests to correspond with my current progress I realized the waypoints weren’t updating properly, and went to check my bug addon. I found there was an error message at about 60% and beyond, that said something about the waypoints I couldn’t quite make out… important thing is, I’m not getting arrows for more than available quests to pick up, and since I can’t get the old ones I permanently deleted I’m sort of stuck without proper waypoints. Anyone else had this problem?

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      Fév 15, 2010 @ 0:44

      Apparently there’s a bugApparently there’s a bug when the same |QID| tag appears in several consecutive steps. Ralpb is looking into it and might have a fix soon.

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    Fév 17, 2010 @ 22:52

    Hi Jamie and other membersHi Jamie and other members of the WOW-Pro community,

    As an old user of Zygor’s Guide I still on occasion get emails from his mailing list. This morning was one such time. I recieved the following email,


    Help us welcome home the newest member of the Zygor family… TourGuide!

    Get the scoop about it on our community forum:

    Let us know what you think be leaving a comment in the thread. Are
    you excited to see TourGuide come to Zygor Guides?

    See you there! 🙂

    Take care.

    John Cook
    Zygor Guides, LLC

    If you go to the link in the email you will find Zygor talking tough about him now owning the IP rights to Tourguide and how he is going to take legal action against all other sites and guides that use it. Being a member of the WOWinterface community, I immediately logged on there, and found that Tourguide had indeed been removed from the site and apparrently from Curse. I just wanted to make sure that people here had a heads up about it. This is something that concerns me greatly and I don’t want to see WOW-pro suffer as a result.



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    Fév 17, 2010 @ 23:15

    Possibly a silly question….I have been using an add on called every quest, plus i also have quest helper and tour guide.
    I have read about your add on and want to give it a try BUT which of the other add ons that i already have do i delete?

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    Fév 18, 2010 @ 12:03

    Create a Guide?Is it possible to create your own guide, by using tour guide, because i’d like to write a small gold guide?

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      Fév 18, 2010 @ 22:00

      It used to be, but TourIt used to be, but Tour Guide’s free version is being discontinued and will no longer be distributed.

      We are working on a solution for WoW-Pro’s guides, and once we’ve found one we may be able to include your gold guide in the future. We’ll be making an announcement once we know what’s up.

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        Mar 14, 2010 @ 0:15

        It’s kind of discontinued…It’s kind of discontinued… is an interview with Tek, and he says there will be a free version back “soon”. He still owns the rights, he’s just giving Zygor’s exclusive rights to their own.

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    Fév 18, 2010 @ 23:40

    Hellfire/ZangarmarshI completed Hellfire using the guide. I found it flawless. Very very accurate.
    Same goes for Zangarmarsh, am at 75% through with it.

    Horde-guide it is.

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    Fév 19, 2010 @ 7:47

    First off I want to sayFirst off I want to say thanks for the guides. I recently just installed the wow pro leveling addon and it seems to be skipping the travel to and flight point steps in the guides (Bostons stonetalon 24-25 and ashenvale 25-26. Not sure if this is caused by having just switched over from tourguide or not. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    Mar 1, 2010 @ 12:16

    Help !!Hello. I just downloaded the levelling guide addon and it seems to work fine on telling me where to pick up the quests and which ones to pick up, The only problem is the waypoint arrow isn’t appearing to show me where the objective of the quests are. please comment back 🙂 Thanks !


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      Mar 2, 2010 @ 3:31

      Re: Help !!Have you downloaded and installed the TomTom add-on as well? The Wow-Pro add-on does not have an integrated arrow.

      If you live a long life it is a testament to your friends’ self control.

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    Mar 2, 2010 @ 1:30

    No guideIt seems to me that when i load a guide there is no “No guide” in the guide list so i am stuck with a guide loaded, it seems to me there is no way to have the “No guide loaded” once you load a guide..

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    Mar 22, 2010 @ 22:05

    help needed badly…. D=Hey this is the first time i’ve used an adon. i leveled my pally up fine but it took a wile and i added this hoping to make it go faster. but i have a problem. the addon button in the left hand corner of the screen is non-existent. how do i fax this??? please help ><

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      Mar 22, 2010 @ 22:21

      First – make sure you areFirst – make sure you are checking for it at the right screen – it appears at the character selection screen.

      Secondly, it may not appear if you don’t have any addons in your addon folder. Make sure you followed the instructions to correctly place the addon into the addon folder. Note that it needs to be *unzipped* before it will work, you should be able to do this simply by opening the zipped folder and clicking “extract files”.

      Let me know if you have any other questions!

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    Mar 22, 2010 @ 22:56

    Does this not work anymore?I used this to level from 70-80 on my shaman. Now i have a 63 deathknight and I go to use the guide, and it is now completely worthless. It tells me the quest i need to get and complete…. but i dont get the indicator on my map telling me where to go? I’ve reinstalled all 3 addons countless times and still nothing. This is frustrating. If ayone can that would be great. Thanks!

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      Mar 23, 2010 @ 8:25

      There is no arrow for the DKThere is no arrow for the DK guides. It’s not our fault, it’s Blizard’s – they make it impossible to use the arrow there, from what I understand.

      However considering you are level 63, we can assume you are in Outland? In that case, I’m not sure what the problem is. If you have an up to date version of our guides and TomTom, it should work.

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    Mar 26, 2010 @ 7:26

    worked good for menice addon
    it worked rly good for me 😛

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    Mar 27, 2010 @ 15:30

    Updates to WoW-Pro addonHi guys,

    Firstly thanks a lot for your guides, i’ve used them on many characters to minimise my time levelling – especially in Azeroth pre 58.

    I’m using your latest addon – I think you brought it out as you can’t use tourguides anymore – and I was wondering if you could keep the page updated with estimated update dates and notification of when there is a new version?

    Personally i’m having issues with the guide not showing steps to pick up flight paths, move to an area and set my hearthstone. I can check the guide by rightclicking but it disrupts the flow.

    Thanks again for the awesome free addon, hope to hear from you soon.

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      Mar 28, 2010 @ 18:53

      Having Same IssueI am also having the same issue (notes, flight path, boats etc steps not showing up). Also sometimes the Tom Tom seems to be showing a location for a different step. Seems like it is getting out of sync because of the steps getting skiiped.

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      Mar 28, 2010 @ 21:32

      I, too, am having the sameI, too, am having the same issue with flight paths, binding your home point, hearthing, boats etc. not showing up. It’s rather annoying to accidentally skip over binding your hearth somewhere.

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    Mar 30, 2010 @ 3:32

    A couple comments or suggestions…I have a couple of suggestions for this addon. I loved using the old version, but the new version leaves me feeling frustrated to the point I’ve quit using it.

    Is there any ETA on a fix for the problem of the guide not alerting when to take a flight, and other minor issues? They’re minor but become really annoying in the long run.

    Also would it be possible to display somewhere on this page when the addon was last updated? “New version updated to 3.3” doesn’t mean as much to me as “updated Jan 9, 2010” does. I think I’ve come here multiple times to re-download the “latest version” in hopes that the bugs have been fixed, only to realize it’s the same version I’ve had for awhile.

    One last thing, is anyone else having as much trouble with lag caused by LightHeaded as I am? Granted, I have quite a few add-ons installed. But my game gets downright choppy with LightHeaded enabled. Even though it uses a little bit less memory then Auctioneer, it definitely causes a LOT more lag. I’ve come to the conclusion I’m better off disabling LightHeaded and using Carbonite when I get to a step that the guide doesn’t have information for me because LH is off. (Or looking it up on Wowhead.)

    Again, love the add-on, and thank everyone for their hard work on it. But I’d really like to see more information shared on working the bugs out, or maybe I’m just not looking in the right place.

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    Mar 30, 2010 @ 15:26

    Addon ProblemHey, I’ve been using the WoW-Pro addons for quite a while now, but I’ve always had one specific issue. Occasionally, I choose to skip ahead a few guides because I level with heirlooms and I have the exp bonus. I always pick up every quest I find, just because I like to get as much done as possible in the use of “Optimization of Quest Circuts,” even if that means getting ahead of other guides. But sometimes when I have a quest and I switch guides that requires me to pick that quest up, I get the “!” telling me to pick it up. I click on it and it begins to tell me that I completed and turned in the quest. Is there any solution to this problem? 😕

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    Mar 31, 2010 @ 4:27

    SuggestionSome sort of panel or maybe a fly-out list that shows “from now on” items. For instance, “Kill every Marshfang Ripper you see” and “Keep any Fertile Spores you get” would add Marshfang Rippers and Fertile Spores to this list, until the goal concerning them is met.

    I know a few people have mentioned that they forget things they’re supposed to keep an eye out for once the addon gets past that step.

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    Avr 2, 2010 @ 0:52

    I have question bout the addonWhen Cataclysm comes out and we write the new 1 – 60 guides are you gonna add it to the addon? Also when we write the Worgen and Goblin guides are you gonna add em as well?

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      Avr 2, 2010 @ 2:38

      A new addon is in the works,A new addon is in the works, but yes, we will be adding a guide for each area to the addon once it is complete.

      I am going to push for having only *one* guide in addon form per starting area, however. I think it will be less confusing for users this way. We’ll either pick the most highly rated/most used guide on the site, or combine several guides if that seems like a better option. Obviously the final decision is Jame’s, but this is what I will be hoping for.

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    Avr 3, 2010 @ 9:33

    Fix for WoW-Pro addon skipping travel stepsFirst let me thank everyone who’s worked on these guides and the addon… I use them frequently and appreciate all the hard work that’s gone into them.

    I’ve been having a problem that’s been mentioned a couple of times on these comments… now that the travel steps (run, fly, hearth, boat) have quests (QID) associated with them, sometimes the addon skips these steps when the travel step is before the quest turn in.

    What the fix below does is to not skip these steps unless the referenced QID has been marked as turned in. This should make the addon show the travel unless the quest is actually turned in (or marked it as turned in). The travel steps will still auto-complete when you reach the referenced zone/city/etc.

    In a text editor open the file [i]World of Warcraft folder[/i][b]InterfaceAddOnsWoW-ProBroker.lua[/b] and make things around [b]line 54[/b] look like so (I’ve included the surrounding lines so you can find where to make the change):
    elseif action == “COMPLETE” then incomplete = not complete and (not optional or logi)
    elseif action == “NOTE” or action == “KILL” then incomplete = not optional or haslootitem
    elseif (action == “RUN” or action == “FLY” or action == “HEARTH” or action == “BOAT”) and logi then
    incomplete = not self.turnedin[GetQuestLogTitle(logi)]
    else incomplete = not logi end

    if incomplete then nextstep = i end


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      Avr 3, 2010 @ 23:30

      set hearthI think you forgot to add the fix for “set your hearthstone”, those are still getting skipped : (

      Edit: also the fix doesn’t cover “pick up flight path”, or some “use this item” notes.

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        Avr 12, 2010 @ 3:59

        fixesChange the lines in the middle like so to use the same logic for setting hearth, getting flight points and buying/using.

        elseif (action == “RUN” or action == “FLY” or action == “HEARTH” or action == “BOAT”
        or action == “SETHEARTH” or action == “GETFLIGHTPOINT” or action == “BUY” or action == “USE”) and logi then
        incomplete = not self.turnedin[GetQuestLogTitle(logi)]

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          Mai 26, 2010 @ 1:54

          It would be nice the threwIt would be nice the threw an updated version just for the time being as they finish up the new WoW-Pro addon.

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    Avr 3, 2010 @ 18:57

    BugsThe quest in feralas “A strange request” no longer asks you to travel to orgrimmar, instead it is done in feralas. Also further in the chain “Testing the vessel” is done in feralas on wolves/bears instead of owlkin in the hinterlands.

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    Avr 4, 2010 @ 6:47

    Fixes for the Add-onFirst of all I would like to thank everyone for their comments, but they are a little late. Since Zygor bought TourGuide Jame has had to take the WoW-Pro version down, so there probably won’t be any fixes until the new WoW-Pro Add-on is written. If you would like to try to fix things on your own, there have been instructions posted on this and other pages on the site. Also, most of the Horde guides work fine since the people working on the 3.3 versions play Horde and were able to test and fix them. Sorry Alliance players, but no one stepped up during the revision process to help.

    Sorry about the rant, but I worked on the revisions and have answered all of the recently posted questions multiple times. Please do a little research on your own.

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      Avr 4, 2010 @ 8:11

      Thanks for this post, Scoot.Thanks for this post, Scoot. I need to make an update post so people can see what’s going on a little easier.

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      Mai 7, 2010 @ 17:00

      New version?Hey Scoot.
      I’m just wondering if Jame’s going to make a new version that doesn’t use TourGuide since Zygor bought it (mooroon!)?

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        Mai 7, 2010 @ 18:17

        Yup! Details here:Yup! Details here:

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          Mai 8, 2010 @ 22:07

          Yayz! :DThat one looks awesome. 😀 Can’t wait for it!

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    Avr 5, 2010 @ 12:57

    Orc/Troll Shamani made a new characther orc shaman the and i am only lvl 5 but still the totem quest there are 2x of each totem quest this is not the problem

    The Real Problem is the quest i followed the guide 100% BUT it skippes some questes and just head to Encroachment (Gar’Thok) but i cant take any quest named that yet+ it skip theese

    Thwarting Kolkar Aggression
    A solvent Spirit
    Practical Prey
    Minshina’s Skull
    Dark Storms
    Vanquish the Betrayers

    and i cant uncheck them as uncompleted so i need to complete a few quests without it :jawdrop: but still i got a 80 Dk so i know the quest but still just to notice u

    Lord isnt a title its a name

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    Avr 5, 2010 @ 22:07

    couple problems so have acouple problems so have a level 80 all rogue after farming some marks for boa gear i made a warrior i got the warrior to lvl 13 and thought i would use the guide through westlands and onwards

    however the guide that’s there is 13 – ?? just says go kill this, go kill that goo do that but has nothing about going getting quest, nothing about picking quest or handing them in

    also after disabling questhelper the arrow still dosent show

    any idea how to fix this these probelms?

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      Mai 8, 2010 @ 21:21

      same problem here… i thinksame problem here… i think it is since the last update… since then the arrow is missing… i only got tomtom, wow-pro and lightheaded… i already deleted everything related to these addons in WTF and reinstalled these 3 addons several times.. but the arrow won’t show up…and i have no cartographer, carbonite or questhelper installed
      The only time the arrow shows up is to show me the quest-giver for a new quest but won’t show any other things like kill-spots, other points of interest, quest-turn-ins and so on…

      any solutions?

      edit: ah ok. i think i found the root of the problem ^^ if the arrow won’t show up, enable and disable the build-in questhelper of blizzard at the world map (check box bottom right at the world map) and… hooray welcome back mr. arrow 😀

      so there might be a problem with the build-in questhelper and wow-pro/tourguide 🙂

      i hope this will help ^^

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    Mai 4, 2010 @ 3:48

    [WoW-Pro|Jame] Terokkar Forest (Aldor, 65-67)The quest is listed on the addon as “The Vengeful Harbringer” but in the game it is called “Vengeful Souls”.

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    Mai 4, 2010 @ 22:08

    Tourguide updateTekkub updated the free version of tourguide a couple of days ago

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    Mai 9, 2010 @ 15:32

    Alliance Storm Peaks Addon Guide CompletedI have completed/tested and posted a Storm Peaks guide for Alliance.

    I would appreciate feedback.

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      Mai 9, 2010 @ 19:58

      Awesome! When I add theAwesome! When I add the guide files to the addon’s alpha site, I’ll put this one in as well 🙂 Thanks for your hard work! 😀

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    Mai 12, 2010 @ 23:30

    NOPOI tag What is the correct syntax when using this is a line of code for the guide?

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      Mai 13, 2010 @ 2:33

      I don’t think I quiteI don’t think I quite understand what you are asking.

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        Mai 13, 2010 @ 23:12

        |NOPOI| QuestionI have looked in the other .lua files to see an example and could not find one.

        When you use the NOPOI tag to over-ride the in-game arrow suggestion, how do you insert it into a line of code in the .lua file?


        C Kill NPC |QID|12345| |N|Kill the NPC at (35,45)| |NOPOI|(35,45)|


        C Kill NPC |QID|12345| |N|Kill the NPC at (35,45)| |NOPOI|35,45|


        Parentheses or nor parentheses; placement within the line itself, etc.


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          Mai 14, 2010 @ 7:30

          Ah, I still don’tAh, I still don’t understand, I feel so foolish! I’m not even sure what you are trying to do. Override the in-game arrow? I’ve never seen nor heard of the |NOPOI| tag so I’m not sure how to use it at all 🙁 Perhaps one of the people more familiar with coding for the Tour Guide based addon might know?

          I’ll let you know now that as of yet no |NOPOI| tag has been added to the new addon code, though if you let me know what exactly it is and why it is needed I would certainly look into adding it. Is it referring to the little yellow arrow that sometimes appears on the mini map, or to the new quest blobs on the world map? Or something to do with TomTom automatically tracking to those quest blobs?

          Thanks and sorry for being such a noob! :O

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            Mai 14, 2010 @ 12:02

            the |NOPOI| tagthe |NOPOI| tag is something i added to TG to override the use of the blizz POI system and instead use the coords in the steps’ note. the tag does not use coords itself its just there as a flag like |O|

            PS. Not to be rude but, [url=]RTFM[/url]. This is why it’s there… the link is at the bottom of the post at “How to Contribute”. Just sayin…

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              Mai 14, 2010 @ 14:13

              the |NOPOI| tag…Well, I did read the manual, and the references are vague at best…

              “In these cases use a |NOPOI| tag and make your own coordinates.”

              “Sometimes these are not optimal, in these cases you can use this tag to fall back to note coords to provide your own. NOTE this should only be used if the guide assumes the player will be at a specific location.”

              There are no examples of how this tag is used. And if it is purely notation, why not just put the coords in the |N| tag?

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              Mai 14, 2010 @ 19:31

              Okay so it IS for the worldOkay so it IS for the world map blobs. That makes sense. Sorry for being dense, and thanks for the link Gethe, I was lazy and didn’t go looking for it :O

              My current code doesn’t make use of the Blizz POI. I think I will add that in for quest turn ins so those don’t need to be coded in. However I’m not sure about adding it for completion steps, as it seems like those coordinates are usually provided by Jame in his guides anyway and are quite often different than Blizz’s POI. We shall see.

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    Mai 15, 2010 @ 4:55

    Addon Causes camera issues.For some reason the addon turns off my Camera settings and my camera goes from

    Following style: Only when moving


    Following style: Never adjust camera.

    Please fix.

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      Mai 15, 2010 @ 6:58

      Good news: the old styleGood news: the old style addon is being completely rewritten so this shouldn’t be an issue.

      Bad news: we aren’t going to be updating the old style addon and the new version will not be available for a while yet.

      Though honestly I have absolutely no clue why this would possibly be happening, are you certain the WoW-Pro addon is doing it?

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      Mai 15, 2010 @ 8:57

      Do you have AVR/AVR-EDo you have AVR/AVR-E installed?

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    Mai 20, 2010 @ 22:48

    add onThis is a good add on, definitly helps you find good quests to level, but a lot of the time the arrow doesnt really work right or show up, and thats where I use the questhelper add on to help. If you use this leveling guide and questhelper together, you’ll be good to go. Would definitly like to just use wow-pro without the questhelper, so if there is an update that fixes that problem, please let me know!

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      Mai 20, 2010 @ 23:06

      The new addon coming outThe new addon coming out will hopefully fix your problem 🙂 It will be a little while before it’s released, however.

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    Mai 23, 2010 @ 2:24

    HELP!!!!!!!!!!!Ok I disabled and deleted my old Titan add ons and when I try to add this add on, the only thing that shows up in my Titan Add On! How can that be? I deleted it. These add ons are the only ones in my add on folder. Its not reading it for some reason! HELP!

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    Mai 30, 2010 @ 7:28

    Issues with most recent version of WoW Pro AddonLove the guide, Jame. But this most recent version of the guide has some major bugs. It skips steps, like traveling to certain locations and finishing quests. There’s too many times to remember and list them all here. It’s very annoying to have to stop and bring up the full guide to see where I need to go.

    Hope you can fix this soon. I’ve used your guides for the passed 3 years or so and don’t want to use anybody else.

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      Mai 30, 2010 @ 10:23

      Hi Jamz!

      Nice to hear thatHi Jamz!

      Nice to hear that you love the guides 🙂 Unfortunately we’re no longer supporting the “old” addon format, the one you are currently using. Some of the users here on the site have suggested some temporary fixes, if you scroll down you’ll see them in the comments.

      If you are interested in checking out the new addon that is in development right now, see the [url=]Revised Addon[/url] page. Send me a PM if you’d like to take part in the alpha test of the new addon 🙂

      Thanks again for your interest in the guides, and enjoy!

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    Juin 5, 2010 @ 1:12

    add-on problem…. 😕 tried to install several times on both platforms, XP and Vista :sick:
    no luck at all. Yes i have done several add-ons’ over the 3 years 😉 , and am somewhat experianced in this area. But when it comed down to the core of it, it simply wont come up at all…
    any ideas?

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      Juin 5, 2010 @ 2:10

      No idea! We aren’tNo idea! We aren’t supporting this older version anymore anyway. If you would like to try the alpha version of the new addon (yes it is an alpha and has many bugs still and not very many guides made for it yet) check out the website:

      Hope that one works for you, let me know if it does not 🙂

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    Juin 17, 2010 @ 1:26

    Mac Compatible? Is the leveling addon compatible on Snow Leopard OS X? If so, how do you install?


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      Juin 17, 2010 @ 3:13

      Unless I am grosslyUnless I am grossly mistaken, all addons are compatible with all platforms that WoW is, and are installed in the exact same way. The only thing different is the location of the World of Warcraft Folder. There used to be Mac instructions on this page but someone must have deleted them at some point since they are no longer here. Sadly I don’t own a Mac and can’t help you with installation instructions, but it is the same as with any other addon.

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        Juin 17, 2010 @ 7:57

        “Addons” folderThe addon is Macintosh-compatible. You have to put it in the “/Interface/AddOns” folder of your computer.

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    Juil 17, 2010 @ 22:05

    Create own guideHey 😉
    I already posted a similar question, when Tour Guide was still available.
    Is it possible to create own guides with this “Wow-Pro”-Addon, without having huge skills in lua-programming?

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      Juil 18, 2010 @ 2:07

      It is indeed. I’ll beIt is indeed. I’ll be posting a detailed How-To for this when I release the addon in it’s beta form. If you did any work on the Tour Guide type guide files, it’s almost exactly the same.

      As an example, here is one step of code:

      A Some Quest Name |QID|1245|N|Accept this quest from So-And-So|M|55.55,44.44|

      This is a basic example, there are a few other tags (like the |N|) you can add to make the addon do even more cool stuff. Doesn’t look too scary, does it? 🙂

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    Juil 18, 2010 @ 21:23

    AlrightAlright, thanks.
    Do you have an idea when you will write/release this guide?
    Where would it be posted?
    Thanks a lot for the 1st example 🙂

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