Jame’s Leveling Guide: AddOn Version – Works in Progress

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This wiki page will help us track who has volunteered to help translate sections of Jame’s Leveling Guides into TourGuide Format, so that we can finally publish an addon that will enable people following Jame’s Guide to do so without alt-tabbing.


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Before you sign in for testing, revamping or writing a guide for the AddOn you should read the following two pages:

Now that you know what to do, you can take a look at the overview lists for the two factions. It might look a bit confusing on first sight but it’s really easy:

In the Status column you can see what the current status of every guide is:

N/A The guide has not been written yet (not available)
Testing The guide has been written but not been tested by anyone but the author.
Improvements The guide has been written and tested, but it needs improvements. Numbers behind the status will forward you to posts with information on the needed improvements.
Quality The guide has been tested, revamped and has a very good quality. The stars indicate how well the guide has been tested. A quality guide with one star has only been tested by one person so there might still be some flaws.


Now that you’re informed about what needs to be done, you have to look at the Progress column if the guide is already in work.

A indicates that there is no one working on this guide at the moment, so feel free to do it!

A tells you that there is someone working on that guide, if you click on the icon you will be redirected to the editors user-page.

Before you start editing a guide you should look if there are some edited files that are not included in the AddOn by default.

If the download arrow is green it means that there are files to download. Just click the arrow to download them. Put those files into the folder of the according Guide Package AddOn.

The little lamp will redirect you to a section on the “Mistakes” page. There you can see a list of known mistakes in the guide. You should take a look at this list even if the guide is not marked for Improvements!

If you found a guide that suits you and no one else is working at, you can either write a comment so that someone can add you to the list, or you can try to add yourself.

Please give us an update every week (at least) by changing the Last Updated column and giving some information about your progress in the Progress column so that everyone who wants to know can check how far you are. If we don’t hear from you in over a week, and someone else wants to take over revising/writing that section of the guide, it’s fair game! This way parts of the guide won’t be left unfinished.

If you’ve finished your part add a link to the file you edited in the Progress column and leave a comment!


Overview – Alliance
Last Update
Maw’s Human Guide (1-12)
Snowflake’s Draenei Guide (1-12)
Boston’s Gnome/Dwarf Guide (1-12)
Taralom’s Nightelf Guide (1-12)
Manovan’s Night Elf Guide (1-13)
Joan’s Human Guide (1-12)
Maw’s Leveling Guide (12-20)
Boston’s Leveling Guide (12-20)
Testing and Revising
Sven’s -Bloodmyst- Leveling Guide (12-20)
Boston’s Leveling Guide (20-30)
Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide (30-40)
Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide (40-50)
Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide (50-60)
Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide – Hellfire Peninsula
Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide – Zangarmarsh
Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide – Terokkar
Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide – Nagrand
Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide – Blade’s Edge Mountains
Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide – Borean Tundra
Testing and Revising
Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide – Howling Fjord
Testing and Revising
Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide – Dragonblight
Testing and Revising
Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide – Grizzly Hills
Testing and Revising
(AddOn Only) Alliance Leveling Guide – Zul’Drak (77-78)
(AddOn Only) Alliance Leveling Guide – Sholazar Basin (78-79)
(No Guide) Alliance Leveling Guide – Storm Peaks (79-80)
(AddOn Only) Alliance Leveling Guide – Icecrown (80)
Jame’s Alliance Death Knight Leveling Guide – (55-61)


Overview – Horde
Last Update
Zerinj’s Orc/Troll Starter (1-12)
Shinke’s Tauren Starter (1-12)
Snowflake’s Blood Elf Starter (1-12)
Manovan’s Undead Starter (1-12)
SilverKnight’s Silverpine (12-20)
Hosho’s Barrens (12-20)
Snowflake’s Ghostlands Guide (13-21)
Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (21-31)
Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (31-41)
Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (41-51)
Testing and Revising
Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (51-60)
Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Hellfire Peninsula
Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Zangarmarsh
Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Terokkar Forest
Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Nagrand
Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Blade’s Edge Mountains
Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Howling Fjord (70-71)
Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Borean Tundra (71-73)
Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Dragonblight (73-75)
Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Grizzly Hills (75-77)
(AddOn Only) Horde Leveling Guide – Zul’Drak (77-78)
(AddOn Only) Horde Leveling Guide – Sholazar Basin (78-79)
(AddOn Only) Horde Leveling Guide – Storm Peaks (79-80)
(AddOn Only) Horde Leveling Guide – Icecrown (80)
Jame’s Horde Death Knight Leveling Guide – (55-61)
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    Fév 19, 2009 @ 11:53

    It is simply awesome. FeelIt is simply awesome. Feel free to change the links in the other wiki pages so that they link to this page instead of the old work in progress page.

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      Fév 19, 2009 @ 16:59

      Done that Now it’s up toDone that 🙂 Now it’s up to the community 😉

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    Fév 19, 2009 @ 20:09

    Don’t know if this is the right place…I’m currently testing Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (51-60)with TourGuide.
    The use button for Treant Muisek Vessel for the quest [50] Treant Muisek is missing.

    Is there a post where I can report my testing ?

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      Fév 19, 2009 @ 20:38

      Collect all mistakes youCollect all mistakes you find in that guide and post a comment here if you’re finished. We’ll add a link to that comment in the overview list and change it’s status to Needs Improvements, so that someone can take this task.

      I’ll add you to the Works in progress list now

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        Fév 19, 2009 @ 22:45


        So far i’veThanks.

        So far i’ve completed 84% of this guide. I found the following errors :

        1. The use button for Treant Muisek Vessel for the quest [50] Treant Muisek is missing. The TomTom arrow indicates a wrong spawn point. Moreover, there is one spawn point missing, the one near the grimtotem compound.

        2. “Mountain Giank Muisek”=> The correct text is “Mountain GianT Muisek”. Moreover, the tip doesn’t indicate that you have to use the Muisek Vessel after you’ve killed the giant (it is on the text log though…). And the use button for the Muisek is missing.

        3. “Abandon Again with the Zapped Giants” : abandonning this quest cause the TourGuide to rollback : the addon ask you to go again take the quest from the goblin.

        4.” Improved Quality” : no arrow. It could also be nice to indicate in the tooltip : “Head to the yeti cave to the southwest and gather 10 Rage Scar Yeti Hide from the yetis.”

        5. “Deliver to MacKinely” : it’s MacKinley.

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          Mar 6, 2009 @ 23:32

          Lvl 51-52 100% completed. NoLvl 51-52 100% completed. No more mistakes.

          If someone want to release a guide for the next level, i’ll gladly test them 🙂

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    Fév 20, 2009 @ 1:24

    Feedback yay!I like the quality stars, I was a little worried that mine was being reported as quality initially because while *I* think it’s good, there may be mistakes I didn’t see 🙂 So thanks!

    This looks really nice Jahwo. Thanks so much for making it!

    EDIT: One thing. I made a change to the wording in the blurb about updating your progress. I think we should make it clear that if people sign up for testing/revising/writing a section but never give us an update, someone else will probably start working on the guide. This isn’t saying they have to be DONE in a week – just give us an update to know they are still working on it. This seems reasonable to me and will keep guides from remaining unwritten/unrevised for long periods of time.

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    Fév 20, 2009 @ 1:36

    Arathi Highlands 35-37I was playing through the guide on my Pally and came across some errors. I updated the 35-37 section of the Arathi Highlands, it’s by no means perfect but if anyone wants a slightly updated version it can be found [url=]here[/url].

    I’ll put this up under the work in progress section, even though it’s technically “done”, so if someone wants to work on that section they can work from my slightly more updated file.

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    Fév 20, 2009 @ 3:29

    Howling Fjord – GuideHi,

    since this is my first post here, I want to use the oppurtunity to thank you all, and especially Jame for the great Guides, which helped me a great deal while leveling my alts.

    Just now I am leveling a Shaman and got just through the Howling Fjord section of the addon. Thought I could just write down some problems as I see them and here’s my list 😉 :

    Firstly I had some problems finding Scoodles from the quest “Scoodles” a note about him bein right below the surface would have been helpful, since his circuit is quite big and I wasted some minutes looking for him at the bottom of the sea.

    Next was at “The Jig is up” : A note about the mob being in the cavern would be helpful, however I profited out of this since I got to kill King Pig, who was just above the mob ;).

    The third point is about “March of the Giants”: I died thrice because I did not know about them being kiteable and was about to ignore this quest because of frustration till I decided to look up the quest in the written guide.

    Furthermore at the Quest “Fallen Sisters” you can convert them without hitting them down on 30 % if you don’t aggro them. This is not in the written Guide either.

    At the quest “Demolishing Megalith” I want to add that Megalith is kiteable too, therefore the giant as a pet is not neccesary for ranged fighters.

    In addition to that there is a small spelling mistake in “Of Key and Cage”, which causes the taking of the quest not to be recognized ( not 100% shure if it was at the getting of the quest or at the handing in ).

    Last at the quest “Leader of the deranged a somewaht mor detailed explanation of where to jump of the cliff would be nice. I did jum off the cliff into the water and had to recognize that I only would have to jump down one floor.

    Hope you can work some of theese suggestions into the guide to make a great guide even better 😉

    Grateful Greetings

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      Fév 20, 2009 @ 12:44

      Hey thank you for this list,Hey thank you for this list, but could you tell us for which faction you tested the guide? 🙂
      That way I can change the status of the guide to needs improvements and link to your comment.


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    Fév 20, 2009 @ 5:57

    Alliance Grizzly HillsDoing the quest [b][color=#cc9933]Out of Body Experience[/color][/b] causes you to zone into Silverpine Forest. Once you are brought back to Grizzly Hills, the guide skips back to have you pick up all the quests you currently have in your quest log.

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      Fév 23, 2009 @ 22:23

      Hmm ok, now this sucks and IHmm ok, now this sucks and I have no idea how we could fix this.

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        Fév 23, 2009 @ 22:27

        Perhaps with the |Z| zonePerhaps with the |Z| zone tag? I haven’t looked at it at all but there’s gotta be a way. If worse comes to worse, dividing the guide into two separate guides might do the trick.

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    Fév 20, 2009 @ 9:26

    Desolace (37-38)Just finished running through Desolace on my pally and made quite a few corrections to the guide. I think it’s pretty good now, so I give it my “stamp of quality”, but I definitely would recommend at least one more person going through it. I had one step auto-complete weirdly, but can find nothing wrong with the code and when I un-checked it, it then completed as it should when I finished the quest. It was the Sceptre of Light quest, so if you test it please watch out for that.

    Anyway I uploaded and linked the “finished” file, for Jame to include in the next update or if anyone wants to test it before then 🙂

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    Fév 20, 2009 @ 12:33

    Hiya, I’m going to testHiya, I’m going to test Snowflake’s Blood Elf starter.

    Thought I’d be better off safe than sorry with the HTML tables, so I’m posting here 🙂

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      Fév 20, 2009 @ 12:42

      you’re on the listyou’re on the list 🙂

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    Fév 20, 2009 @ 16:49

    Snowflake’s Blood Elf StarterI wanted to leave some feedback on this guide for whoever coded and anyone who is doing a more thorough testing. As a note this was my first time through the guide and I did not take very extensive notes but will present a few thoughts for you.

    -Kill quests – The quests Aggression, Major Malfunction, and Pelt Collection do not have an accompanied note to watch for the associated mobs while doing the next set of quests.

    -Optional quests do not appear optional, I dinged 12 when I turned in The Party Never Ends on my way to the Withered Keepers quests.

    -The sequence of taking Cleaning up the Grounds, training in Silvermoon, then completing the quests seems strange. Perhaps moving that section until after completion of Word from the Spire and Abandoned Investigations.

    I’m not sure if there’s a better place to give my feedback so I apologize if this is not the appropriate format. I hope this is helpful!

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    Fév 20, 2009 @ 16:54

    I revamped the overview listI revamped the overview list so that every information can be seen in one list. For now it’s only the alliance list and it’s not explained at the top so please do not get confused. 🙂

    Hope you like it so far, but I don’t know if I find the time to do the rest today, sorry

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      Fév 20, 2009 @ 18:54

      Fancy! I’ll withholdFancy! I’ll withhold judgment until I see the finished product 😉

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        Fév 21, 2009 @ 1:10

        Now you can see itNow you can see it 😉

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          Fév 21, 2009 @ 1:26

          How come the little personHow come the little person has to be a business man with a tie? >_< That is not an accurate representation of me! 😉 😛

          It would be really cool if it showed the person's name on mouseover, but that would be complicated and almost certainly not worth it.

          It's a little frustrating that I'm mostly working on these in little sections, so it's not easy to link files with this format.

          In other news: Revised the Barrens guide, not by live testing though - I just went through the code. I plan to test it out in game soon, but others are also welcome to do so. The file can be found [url=]here[/url] - I'll also link it on the table.

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            Fév 21, 2009 @ 1:32

            Yeah the linking is a bit ofYeah the linking is a bit of a problem.. I thought that we upload .zip files that contains only the changed files of the according guide. This way every volunteer can get the edited files and add his own to the archive.

            After Jame made an update with all the files from here the downloads will be reset.

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              Fév 21, 2009 @ 1:33

              That works fine, as long asThat works fine, as long as if someone else works on that same section they remember to upload ALL the files that were in that section again, even if they didn’t edit them. I don’t see any better way to do it, but it’s still a little poopy.

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                Fév 21, 2009 @ 1:34

                Hmm if it doesn’t work atHmm if it doesn’t work at all this way we can still put it back to the old revision 😉

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                  Fév 21, 2009 @ 1:43

                  No way! I like the prettyNo way! I like the pretty new tables!

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            Fév 21, 2009 @ 1:54

            That’s right, I went there.That’s right, I went there. We now have a little woman icon 😛

            …You have my full permission to delete it though, I was just being silly 🙂

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              Fév 21, 2009 @ 1:57

              Nah I won’t delete it but:D Nah I won’t delete it 😉 but I added one that fits better with the business man, if you like it 😉

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                Fév 21, 2009 @ 2:01

                But I don’t like the . IBut I don’t like the [img][/img]. I think it is too agressive 😀 But I don’t know what to use instead..

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                  Fév 21, 2009 @ 2:06

                  I think the X is fine, itI think the X is fine, it gets the point out that nobody’s working on it. Although maybe the sections like Maw’s Guide that have been tested and are 100% accurate should have a ‘checkmark’ showing that it doesn’t need to be worked on?

                  Just a thought 🙂

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                    Fév 21, 2009 @ 10:55

                    Done thatDone that 🙂

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                Fév 21, 2009 @ 2:09

                I approve of your littleI approve of your little woman! 😀

                Also, I like Shinke’s idea. Three stars or more = green checkmark. Anything tested and approved by Jame should automatically get three stars, just as you have been doing. At least that’s my opinion of how it should be! }:)

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              Fév 23, 2009 @ 22:47

              Haha you guys crack me upHaha you guys crack me up 🙂

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      Fév 23, 2009 @ 22:44

      Jahwo, you’re made of win!Jahwo, you’re made of win!

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    Fév 22, 2009 @ 5:41

    I made a quick fix to theI made a quick fix to the Durotar guide, hopefully fixing a problem with the class quests. I was a noob coder and forgot to add (Part 1) etc. to the multiple stage quests of the same name, such as Call of Earth. Hopefully it’s happy now.

    Let me know if there are any other problems. The updated file can be downlaoded [url=]here[/url].

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    Fév 22, 2009 @ 8:18

    Dustwallow Marsh lvl 39-40 UpdateThere were only a few things I added/corrected in this one. Note that for the “Stinky” coordinates, they are all funky because of how Lightheaded sees him as being many different places. Also the quest was bugged for me. Additionally, Lightheaded can’t seem to find the coordinates for the first few quests from the inn. Not sure how to fix these things, other than perhaps not entering the quest ID and manually entering coordinates. So I do not give this my stamp of quality, it needs some fiddling.

    Anyway the file is [url=]here[/url].

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      Fév 22, 2009 @ 8:31

      I added the file to theI added the file to the updated packet for Horde 31-41 in the table above, as well.

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      Fév 23, 2009 @ 23:39

      That’s what I do. WheneverThat’s what I do. Whenever Lightheaded gives funky coords, I remove the QID and input the coords manually in an |N| tag.

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    Fév 23, 2009 @ 7:27

    Something I did to Hosho’sSomething I did to Hosho’s Barrens guide broke it 🙁 It no longer shows up in the guide list.

    If someone could take a look at it and help me fix it, I would be extremely appreciative. I feel like the improvements I made on it are good, I just can’t figure out what broke it! It’s linked above but [url=]here it is again[/url].

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      Fév 23, 2009 @ 8:49

      Alright, I’m going toAlright, I’m going to strangle whoever removed (or never put in?) Hosho’s guide from the Guide file. I banged my head against the wall for an hour trying to figure out what I did to break it 😛 Turned out it just wasn’t referenced in that file. Grrr!

      Anyway, the good news is that it works now! Yay! But it needs to be added to the guide file for the next release. And it still hasn’t been tested – I’m planning to do that sometime in the next two weeks. This next week is another death week for me though, so I won’t be around much.

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        Fév 23, 2009 @ 23:56

        Guilty! No strangling plxGuilty! No strangling plx 🙁

        I’ll fix everything in the next upload (tomorrow)

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          Fév 24, 2009 @ 0:00

          Hehe, well from what I sawHehe, well from what I saw it was supposedly fixed in the newest version, it’s entirely possible that I just didn’t download the newest version. If it was your fault, well, I suppose I forgive you 😉

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    Fév 23, 2009 @ 18:22

    Shinke’s Tauren GuideviHi, I’ve started to work on the addonversion for this guide. It’s the Tauren Starter Guide from 1-12 for Mulgore and doesn’t even appear in the list.

    Sadly the |C|… Thing didn’t work for me so I had to take care of the class quests via notes… But as the class quests aren’t event mentioned in the original guide i think it’s an improvement. So far I have only covered the first 5 levels, since i don’t know if anyone else is working on it. Please answer me so I know if I can go on.

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      Fév 23, 2009 @ 19:06

      Hmmm, I’ve had no problemsHmmm, I’ve had no problems with the class quests, aside from forgetting to give quests with the same name a (Part 1) or (Part 2) etc. I’ll add it to the list above and put your name on it. When you’re done, I can go through it and see if I can make the class quests work.

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        Fév 23, 2009 @ 22:51

        I apologize. I was lazy withI apologize. I was lazy with the class quests, it’s great that they will be included in the addon, though!

        Perhaps I’ll add the quests in the future..

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          Fév 23, 2009 @ 22:55

          It’s fine. The Durotar guideIt’s fine. The Durotar guide didn’t include them either, but it’s relatively easy to find where they best fit and insert them while revising the addon guide.

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    Fév 24, 2009 @ 0:38

    I am proud to award Zerinj’sI am proud to award Zerinj’s Orc/Troll Starter (1-12) the second Quality star 😀 Everything I found was [b]one[/b] typo xD It’s now fixed in the file in the list.

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    Fév 24, 2009 @ 5:03

    Hmm, I’m having trouble withHmm, I’m having trouble with the quest “Noboru the Cudgel” in the first Swamp of Sorrows Horde guide. I set the item with a |U| use tag, but it actually equips the (exceptionally crappy) weapon first, and then on the second click actually uses it. Which is weird, because clicking it normally in your inventory just activates the quest. I was wondering around beating on crocolisks with it for a long time, wondering why my mace skill was increasing and why it was taking so dang long to kill stuff.

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      Fév 24, 2009 @ 9:15

      Haha, well that sucks and IHaha, well that sucks and I don’t think it’s something you can fix. You’ll have to add a note to warn people about it 🙂

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    Fév 24, 2009 @ 7:55

    Alright, working my wayAlright, working my way through the 41-51 guide on my Pally, got the first two sections done. They need more work but I corrected a few issues.

    [list][*][url=]LVL 41 – Swamp of Sorrows[/url]
    [*][url=]LVL 42 – Badlands[/url][/list]

    When I’m done with this section I’ll combine em in one zip file, or someone else can before hand if they want to.

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    Fév 24, 2009 @ 9:04

    Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Borean Tundra (71-73)I found your addon yesterday morning after using the website version for several characters, and unfortunately for the community i didnt see this function right here until afterwards. If i knew i would have written down things i noticed (i will in the future though)

    I ran through the entire Borean Tundra guide and have not found any errors with moblocations or anything like that.

    Only thing i noticed was that the guide sent me ahead a step at Amber Ledge.
    I did the “Prison Break” quest and was then sent straight to step 4 “Borean Inquisition” without first having done “Abduction”.
    This might have been me clicking tourguide saying id done it but i dont think so… its unfortunately hard for me to recreate the event since my only other alt is 66 atm 😀

    I would say your guide is AT LEAST 99,x% perfect.

    I’ll start on the Dragonblight guide and get back with information on that, since i now know i have somewhere to post it

    Emerald Dream EU

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    Fév 24, 2009 @ 9:11

    31-41 needs improvements !I was playing from 34-37 on my mage some days ago, and there were TONS of mistakes.

    Wrong coords, no coords, missing text, no text at all, wrong quests etc etc. I had to look at the guide on the site to be able to quest right… Hope someone will fix it, cause it’s really needed.

    Thanks 🙂

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      Fév 24, 2009 @ 9:18

      Don’t forget to say whichDon’t forget to say which faction you’re talking about. Horde or Alliance ^^

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        Fév 24, 2009 @ 9:40

        Horde, my badHorde, my bad 🙂

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    Fév 24, 2009 @ 9:48

    New version uploaded!

    HordeNew version uploaded!

    [color=#ff6600][b]Horde v0.4[/b][/color]

    *BIG CHANGE: The default guides will no longer appear on the list. WoW-Pro guides will now appear on top of the list. Thank you Jahwo!
    *REVAMP: Zerinj’s Orc/troll starter 1-12 | Jiyambi | High Quality, test it!
    *REVAMP: Hosho’s Barrens Guide 12-20 | Jiyambi | High Quality, test it!
    *Fixes made to Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide 31-41 | Jiyambi

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    Fév 24, 2009 @ 13:36

    New versionNew version uploaded!

    [color=#3333ff][b]Alliance v0.6[/b][/color]

    *BIG CHANGE: The default guides will no longer appear on the list. WoW-Pro guides will now appear on top of the list. Thank you Jahwo!
    *NEW: Added Boston’s 20-30 | Coded by jame | Quality should be very high!
    *Fixed all the file names
    *Added NLX3647’s Icecrown 79-80 | Warning: This is not really a wow-pro leveling guide, it’s closer to a default TourGuide guide | Needs testing
    *Fixed Tanaris 48-50 .lua. Should now load properly

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    Fév 24, 2009 @ 22:17

    Removed the downloads whichRemoved the downloads which are now included in the new package versions. Please remember to update your files: [url=]Horde[/url] / [url=]Alliance[/url]

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    Fév 24, 2009 @ 23:01

    Sven’s Bloodmyst guideI just updated the list with my attempt at converting Sven’s bloodmyst guide to the addon format. Hopefully I updated the table correctly; it appears to be correct for me.

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      Fév 25, 2009 @ 0:01

      Looks like you did a goodLooks like you did a good job Culin. I’ll add it to the next .zip 🙂

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    Fév 25, 2009 @ 8:29

    Durotar Guide Quick FixUploaded a fixed version of Durotar guide, with that capitalization mistake for Vanquish the Betrayers fixed. You can get it [url=]here[/url], it’s also linked above.

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    Fév 25, 2009 @ 15:22

    Ji, are you working on twoJi, are you working on two guides or are you done with the Barrens guide? 🙂
    Oh and I’ll fix your Last Updated column… I keep forgetting it, too. =/

    I want to keep the list clean, so what are we going to do when are guides with no update for a week(which seems to happen for quite a few in two days). I think we should remove them and leave a message so that the authors have a chance to put themselves on the list again quickly 🙂

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      Fév 26, 2009 @ 0:32

      I am *kindof* working on twoI am *kindof* working on two guides. The Barrens guide is on hold at the moment because Hosho wants to revise it (the original version). Lemme put that up there.

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    Fév 25, 2009 @ 18:37

    Snowflake’s Draenei Guide (1-12)Revamped Snowflake’s Draenei Guide (1-12). I think it has quite good quality, but I’m not too sure about all the class quests as I only tested is with a shaman while revamping it. Status is now [color=#cc9933][b][i]Testing[/i][/b][/color]. The file can be downloaded from the list or [url=]here[/url].

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      Mar 4, 2009 @ 16:47

      Snowflake Draenei starter guidei’m working through the 1-12 Draenei guide. have found some issues. i can post them here or update the file. whatever is preferred i will do.

      edit: seems that the problems stem from lightheaded having the wrong locations for things. i could add waypoints in manually, but the default waypoints would still be there, giving multiple waypoints.

      edit: the priest class quest works fine.

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    Fév 25, 2009 @ 20:11

    How to contribute?Thank you to James and everyone taking their time to write these guides. They are truly impressive. I don’t care what anyone says, the guides make the game a more enjoyable experience.

    Basicly, I’d like to how I can help? I saw a post from a gleamming jewel of colossal ignorance named “Chris” on Jame’s Blog. This idiot had the audacity to complain about guides not being written in a timely fasion. Needless to say this p’d me off, so I decided to help out.

    Where might I place my efforts to help the most? I have The Barrens 21_31 rewritten with coords and all; just in testing now.

    Again, thanks everyone. I can’t wait to see the final product.


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      Fév 25, 2009 @ 22:03

      Welcome! And thank you forWelcome! And thank you for offering help.

      Jiyambi is managing the horde side atm so I’ll let her answer that 🙂

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        Fév 25, 2009 @ 22:15

        “managing the horde side”?“managing the horde side”? Uh oh, what have I gotten myself into? 😉

        All you need to do, dave, is to upload the file to a free file hosting place somewhere (most people use filefront, but I prefer Google sites). Then we can check it over put into the new release.

        You can leave a comment here if you decide to work on another part of the guide and we’ll add you to the list. Just be sure to take a look at the above list to make sure no one else is working on it, or download any updated files before beginning.

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    Fév 25, 2009 @ 21:46

    Hmm it seems as ifHmm it seems as if Lightheaded has no coordinate data for the Deathknight quests. Should I hope on an update for the lightheaded data and just leave the quest accepts and turn ins without coords, or should I add coordinates manually for every step? What do you think?

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      Fév 25, 2009 @ 22:01

      Should add the coordinatesShould add the coordinates manually for every step, if you got the time and will of course 🙂

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        Fév 25, 2009 @ 22:03

        SureSure 😉

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          Fév 26, 2009 @ 6:45

          It’s not lightheadedIt’s not lightheaded, it’s tomtom. tomtom doesn’t work in the DK starting area at all, even if you put in your own coords. This has been confirmed by Cladhaire.

          [url=]tomtom comments[/url]

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            Fév 26, 2009 @ 10:07

            Hmm, now that sucks.Hmm, now that sucks.

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              Fév 26, 2009 @ 16:52

              Yeah that really sucks! I’llYeah that [b]really[/b] sucks! I’ll stop working on it for now and put a warning or something in the list so that every other volunteer knows 😉

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    Fév 26, 2009 @ 16:54

    Note!The current TomTom version does not support the Deathknight starting area. This means it is not possible to efficiently write and test an AddOn version of Jame’s Deathknight guides!

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      Fév 26, 2009 @ 21:45

      Oh dear.

      I can’t rememberOh dear.

      I can’t remember who, but someone is writing it, has been writing it for a while, and is hoping to release part soon… So I’ll work out who they are and PM them…

      Ah, Gethe, that was it

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        Fév 26, 2009 @ 21:49

        Yeah he told us about theYeah he told us about the problem 😉

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          Fév 26, 2009 @ 22:20

          With the power toWith the power to scrolldown, comes great responsibility to…

          I need to work on that one 😛

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            Fév 26, 2009 @ 23:05

            Hah, you made me giggle.Hah, you made me giggle.

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    Fév 26, 2009 @ 17:37

    Icecrown 78-80At level 78 I wanted to open up the Daily quests that are on the Skybreaker in Icecrown. As I went to start to work them, I started to write a guide to Icecrown in the addon version and I want to submitted it to the works in progress page, but I don’t know how.

    It is very much a work in progress as I don’t have another level 78 toon to really test it with, but I did write it as I was playing, so I confident that a lot of the A, C, T and others N will work.

    I would like to know how to submit it to the list so that others can use it and give me feedback. I will continue to work on it in the meantime.

    There are No Stupid Questions. But there a LOT of Inquisitive Idiots!

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    Fév 27, 2009 @ 14:27

    Not sure if I’m commentingNot sure if I’m commenting in the wrong place, and I didn’t write down the line I found it in but:

    The Horde Zangarmarsh Guide has a typo in it. The quest “Us or Them” is spelled “Us of Them.”

    Also, turning in “Now That We’re Friends” does not auto complete, and does not give you turn in coords.

    Sorry if I’m commenting in the wrong place… Oh and don’t count this as an official test, I was just running through with my new Death Knight so I thought I’d let you guys know something was wrong.

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      Fév 27, 2009 @ 17:01

      Just fine here Added yourJust fine here 🙂 Added your comment to the new “Mistakes” page.

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        Fév 28, 2009 @ 3:37

        I’m not sure if this is trueI’m not sure if this is true for anyone else but when I click on the link the the “Mistakes” page it says “Acess Denied”

        I don’t know if only editors are supposed to see this page or what, but I can’t 😉

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          Fév 28, 2009 @ 10:49

          Argh.. thanks =/ nowArgh.. thanks =/ now everyone can see it 🙂

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    Fév 27, 2009 @ 20:30

    I finally got the Horde DKI finally got the Horde DK guide done, it should have been a while ago but whatever:/

    Like it was mentioned earlier, tomtom does not work in the DK starting area, but I think I put in sufficient direction to get you where you need to be, needs testing.

    I put the talent suggestions into the guide but i’m not 100% on whether or not they really should be there. thoughts?

    Heres the link to the download:
    [url=]Horde Death Knight[/url]

    she’s all yours, Brune 😉

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      Fév 27, 2009 @ 20:41


      And sorry for/worship.

      And sorry for bugging you 😛

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        Fév 27, 2009 @ 21:03

        I’ts ok

        I’m gunna be outI’ts ok 8)

        I’m gunna be out for the next two days because i’m moving so any fixes you’ll have to do your self or wait till sunday or monday.

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      Fév 28, 2009 @ 0:38

      Wow! Added your file to theWow! 🙂 Added your file to the list and I’ll definitely have a look at your work if I find the time 🙂

      As your guide probably has quite a lot of notes for giving directions, I think it doesn’t attract much attention if the talent suggestions are in there as well:) Even otherwise it’s probably a good idea to have them included.

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    Fév 28, 2009 @ 10:27

    Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (31-41)Hey everyone,

    I’m the new guy 😉

    As a twinker I have used Jame’s guides over the last years non-stop. Now I have switched over to Horde recently and was of course also going to use Jame’s guides. Beeing pretty fit in programming / coding I have decided to contribute with testing and revising as I come along the TG version of this guide.

    So now I have picked up Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (31-41) as my responsibility and am already at level 36 and a half. Shouldn’t be too long until my undead mage has made it to level 41 I hope. Real life keeps me pretty busy, but I’ll do my best!

    Do I understand this correctly in that I do all the testing and revising, and after that upload the changed files for people to test (the little green download-arrow)?


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      Fév 28, 2009 @ 11:56

      Hey welcome

      That’s exactlyHey welcome 🙂

      That’s exactly the way it works 😉 If you upload a revised file it will probably also be included in the next update of the packages.

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        Fév 28, 2009 @ 21:06

        ChangelogThanks 🙂

        Do I keep a changelog of changes I make to the guide/files?

        Sometimes a guide makes one go back and forth from one end of a camp to another to pick up quests. E.g. take a quest from NPC A, then one of NPC B (other end of camp) then the other quest of A and again another one of B. In this case I’d like to switch the order around. Is this ok or should the addon guide files rather be 100% as in the text version? In other words: are small improvements desirable?

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          Mar 1, 2009 @ 0:39

          A changelog is not requiredA changelog is not required but if you want to make one you can put it into a archive with the edited lua files 🙂

          I don’t know about changing the quest order of the guides… I personally wouldn’t care as long as it improves the guide, but maybe you should wait for an answer by Jame.

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          Mar 2, 2009 @ 3:35

          Within a specific camp,Within a specific camp, where you are running around just picking up or turning in quests, PLEASE put it in a more logical order if you come across it 🙂 I think for these people mostly just have listed the quests available when originally coding it, where Jame just said “pick up all the quests” or something similar. So by all means put those steps in a good order 🙂

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      Mar 3, 2009 @ 2:41

      Testing 31_41Hey Skully, I just got done with the 21-31 guides. Lemme know if I might help ya test your 31-41 guide. 🙂

      For now, my level 29 Mage and I are gonna grease some Ally’s for a while. 😉



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        Mar 3, 2009 @ 10:34

        His guide is available inHis guide is available in the list above. Just click the green arrow next to the 21-31 guide to download the file. Test it whenever you like 🙂

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    Mar 1, 2009 @ 21:38

    TourGuide Version of Horde Guide – Hellfire PeninsulaI just finished leveling in Hellfire Peninsula with my Death Knight using the HP version in Tour Guide (For the Horde!).

    I’ve found a few things that I wanted to address that may make it better.

    1 – First is just a suggestion: At Reaver’s Fall when talking to Wing Commander Brach and it says to pick the dialog to start the event, a note may need to be added for clarity to say which dialog should be chosen. There are two times when there are 2 different dialog options to chose from.

    2 – At Spinebreaker Post: When gathering the quests “Make them listen” and “Preparing the Salve”, reorder the collection so that “Preparing the Salve” is picked up first.

    3 – Another suggestion (may not be needed, but…). When at a quest hub and there are a lot of quests to be picked up, can notes be added to say who the quest giver is? Just for clarity?

    4 – At Falcon Watch: To stop back tracking, change the order of “Flight Point” pick up and picking up the quest “The Great Fissure”. This would stop having to go up the tower, back down, and then back up again.

    5 – After the Note that states “Last chance: Blacktalon”, the objectives of “Light Western Beacon” and “Light Central(?) Beacon” do not auto complete. Unfortunately, I didn’t notice anything in the chat display when I did it.

    6 – I had an issue where is says to “Hearth to Falcon Watch” after completing the quest “From the Abyss”. I had almost 30 minutes on my cool down at this point. I did this part by running to Spinebreaker Post and flying to Falcon Watch.

    7 – The note to get the quest “Leader of the Darkcrest” points at Ryathen the Seeker in Hellfire Peninsula at Falcon Watch and not at the Wanted Poster at the Cenariun Refuge in Zangarmarsh.

    8 – For some reason the quest “Report to Nazgrel” and it’s completion are auto completed. This was noted after completing the “Demoniac Scryer” quest turn in.

    9 – One last not or suggestion: If you complete all the quests in the guide with the exception of the PvP quest and “Foot of the Citadel”, the achievement “To Hellfire and Back” will be completed.

    Hope this helps.

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    Mar 2, 2009 @ 3:53

    Loving the guides, great projectHi, I’ve been follow the guides on this site for a while, but just recently joined the community. I’ve been following the addon guides and, ever since, I’ve not been able to go back to web guides or any other guide I have to Alt+Tab to from WoW, the Tour Guide format is just too good! 😀 Can’t wait till they’re all complete and tested to perfection. Keep up the great work, guys!

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    Mar 3, 2009 @ 18:11

    New versions of Horde Hellfire, Zangarmarsh, and TerokkarI just added download links for versions of the Horde Hellfire, Zangarmarsh, and Terokkar guides. Most of the changes are in adding/correcting quest IDs, fixing case (since TourGuide is case-sensitive) in quest names, and adding item buttons for some quests that didn’t have them.

    Separate patchfiles for the guides are available at which make it easier to see specifically what changed.

    I also put my name on the little dude’s head so you know who to blame if it’s screwed up.

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      Mar 4, 2009 @ 12:46

      Hah, I love it. I’m sureHah, I love it. I’m sure they are awesome, and we won’t need to come find you 😉

      Thanks for the hard work!

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    Mar 4, 2009 @ 4:16

    New version of Jame’s 40-50 guideI just finished editing and testing the tourguide version of Jame’s 40-50 guide which can be found here;13406488;/fileinfo.html the quality should be 95% or perfect. I’m going to wrok on the 50-60 version and should have it here soon.

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      Mar 4, 2009 @ 22:15

      Isn’t it the 51-60? AnywayIsn’t it the 51-60? Anyway thanks in advance for testing and editing, cuz no one has so far!

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    Mar 4, 2009 @ 21:39

    /approve Horde 21-31I just finished playing through this guide and have no major complaints. It follows Jame’s guide exactly, but it would be nice to have some more of his notes on how to complete each quest. I had to use LightHeaded and QuestHelper a few times to get some more details, but never needed to alt-tab out of the game to look something up. Other than that, I think it would be great to include class quests, but they’re not even mentioned in the Horde 21-31 online guide. Thanks to freedave2000 for translating the guide to TourGuide!

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      Mar 5, 2009 @ 2:55

      Thanks! Once I get to thatThanks! Once I get to that point, I plan to put all class quests into the guide. I’ve done that in the troll/orc starting area, but I’m waiting to continue to the barrens and onward until Hosho revises his guide. However I’m considering running an undead character through or something so that I can move on to the next section.

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      Mar 7, 2009 @ 1:49

      Thank you freastro. I agreeThank you freastro. I agree and appreciate your suggestions.

      I did my best to incorporate as much from Jame’s original guide as possible. Also, I mostly used the written guides for guidance. I plan to go back and incorporate both the written and previous AddOn notes into a next revision.

      Also, a question for you: When going through the guide, did you prefer to have a “Note” tag ahead of certain quests, or was it ok to mouse-over the quest for notes?

      I used a mixture of both where it seemed appropriate. I’m curious, from a game-play point of view, which was notation system most helpful.



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        Mar 7, 2009 @ 2:07

        Hiya Dave!

        We want toHiya Dave!

        We want to minimize the number of note tags as much as possible, because we want the guide to auto complete whenever possible. Use a note tag when advising people to look for multiple quest completion items as they go, or for important warnings that must be read before doing a quest (such as for a difficult escort quest). Otherwise, whenever possible, just use the mouse-over text to convey information.

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          Done deal. So, this bringsDone deal. So, this brings up an intersting question. What’s the best way to handle “Kill until…” or “Kill on site…” notices?


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            Mar 7, 2009 @ 4:17

            It really depends. If it’sIt really depends. If it’s something the player will *probably* be killing anyway, and not something that needs a forceful reminder, I just add it as a mouse-over note along with whatever quest objectives they are completing while killing. Then at the end I leave a “complete killing quest” note with a mouseover saying “kill whatevers until you complete killing quest”.

            However, I think I know the notes you are talking about – when Jame puts a special warning saying “Kill on sight” and has a list of mobs, which are killed throughout a large quest circuit. For those notices, I think I would make a “Kill on sight” or “Things to do” note tag that the user has to manually click off when he or she reads it.

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    Mar 5, 2009 @ 14:53

    Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (31-41)Hey everyone, I have just finished revising Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (31-41). I have made changes in a total of six files, from level 35 onwards. Before that were no fixes required.

    Now test away 🙂

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      Mar 8, 2009 @ 4:01

      Couple SuggestionsThanks for the updates! I’ll be at level 35 in a couple days, so I’ll test them out soon. Just a couple suggestions:

      – Notes for levels: Could you add notes for when you’re supposed to level? I find them very reassuring that I’m doing things correctly, or when I find I need to do some grinding before heading elsewhere.

      – 32_33_Thousand_Needles_Jame_3141.lua: I’m not sure if I have the latest version of this file, but the version I have has one Note called “Things to know” and no notes on each quest. If you’re also updating this file, could you take out the one Note and add notes to each quest? Jame’s guide has a specific path he recommends following and it would be nice to have TourGuide mirror that.

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    Mar 6, 2009 @ 1:25

    TG Horde – ZangarmarshI just completed the Tour Guide Horde Version for Zangarmarsh and I found the following things that I think should be addressed.

    1 – A Note may want to be added to “Report to Shadow Hunter Denjai” to say that he is above the inn. Just for clarity and to stop those like me who are a bit slow.

    2 – At Swamprat Post: After picking up the quest “Nothin’ Says Lovin’ Like a Big Stinger” add the turn in for “Withered Bastridium”

    3 – After turning in “Saving the Sporeloks”, can a note to turn in more of the plant parts for “Identify Plant Parts” as a reminder to get them out of you bag? The only other place may be right before the end of the guide where is says to fly to “Shattrath”.

    4 – After completing “Us or Them”, the next step is to hearth to Zabrajin. I still had 22 minutes left on the CD. I just ran to Zabrajin. Took about 2 minutes.

    5 – For the turn in of “Now That We’re Friends…”, there is no arrow/directions from TomTom or TG (not sure which actually places the waypoint). Also, the tag does not auto complete when the quest is turned in.

    6 – Lastly, following this guide I completed the achievement “Mysteries of the Marsh”.

    On to Shattrath and Terrokar Forest :>

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    Mar 6, 2009 @ 3:43

    74-75 DragonblightI’m not playing wow anymore, but I thought I’d let you all have chance to make use of this guide I formatted for myself. It features all of Jame’s notes and a few added coordinates to help make finding objectives easier. I’ve played through this once making a few corrections as I go so it’s probably far from perfect. Whoever is working on this guide can free to use this however it would be of help (I noticed the link for the individual working on this guide is broken).

    (I’m not sure how long i will be able to leave this file on the server it’s on) -just fyi 😉

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      Mar 17, 2009 @ 1:24

      74-75 Dragonblight by RhovanionI gave this one a whirl while questing through Dragonsblight. I can’t vouch for how closely it follows Jame’s guide, since I only referred to the web version a couple of times, but this guide has been more glitch-free than any other of the wow-pro guides I’ve used, and I’m only a few quests from the end. Caveat – I have completed most of the group quests, but don’t intend to complete the rest.

      When I did refer to the online version of the guide, I did find that it matched up. Thanks for the work you did. Excellent job, Rhovanion.

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    Mar 7, 2009 @ 2:15

    IMPOTRANT: 52-60 guide not written?Does anyone have any information about the 52-60 Horde guide (for the addon)?

    Valtimus just finished testing the 51-52 section, available [url=]here[/url]. He has implied that the 52-60 section has not been written yet.

    I just want to make sure this is the case. If it is, I would be very happy to take on writing this part of the addon guide, since my pally is just coming in to this level range. If you know anything about this, please post ASAP. Thanks!

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      Mar 7, 2009 @ 10:01

      Seems to be trueThat seems to be true, as there are no guide files available in the addon folder for that level range either! :jawdrop:

      There comes 002_51_52_Jame_Feralas.lua, and next up is 002_60_63_Jame_Hellfire_Peninsula.lua 🙁

      Surprising nobody noticed that before…

      Would be great if you were willing to work on that section! 🙂

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    Mar 7, 2009 @ 8:33

    What happens if I start anWhat happens if I start an AddOn guide when im like 45, will it mess it up?

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      Mar 7, 2009 @ 9:18

      Well, you may have alreadyWell, you may have already completed some quests, or you may not be able to complete others since you don’t have pre-requisites done. As long as you take that into consideration, there shouldn’t be a problem.

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    Mar 7, 2009 @ 10:42

    Horde 41-51 UPDATEHey folks,

    I just finished testing and doing a massive revamp on the Horde 41-51 section. It’s far from perfect, but also much better than it was. This shouldn’t receive the “quality” sticker just yet, but it’s definitely play-able now and shouldn’t have any major problems. Most remaining issues are stylistic and will be fixed slowly as folks play it through.

    The file can be downloaded [url=]here[/url], is linked in the table above, and will be part of the next addon release.

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    Mar 7, 2009 @ 10:51

    Horde 51-60 GuideHey folks,

    I’ve decided to take on writing the 51-60 addon guide for Horde. I noted it in the table, but wanted to post here just to be clear and so that we don’t have people overlapping their work.

    I’ll be busy this week, but plan to get it done pretty quickly once I’m done with finals! 🙂

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      Mar 8, 2009 @ 15:11

      Hey Jiyambi,

      My mage isHey Jiyambi,

      My mage is level 47 atm, and will soon be done with the 41-51 guide 🙂

      As soon as it’s done with it, I’ll be waiting for your addon version to come out, and I’ll check for every mistake there is,

      Then maybe it can get a Quality star 😉

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        Mar 8, 2009 @ 20:00

        Hehe, thanks! I’ll try toHehe, thanks! I’ll try to get it done quickly then!

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    Mar 7, 2009 @ 12:11

    I can see that alot ofI can see that alot of sections has been improved either slightly or by a huge amount, and I was wondering when the next release is going to be? 🙂


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      Mar 7, 2009 @ 12:24

      Well there are at leastWell there are at least three guides on horde side that are done with revision but still need to be tested for quality. I can imagine a new release isn’t too far away though.

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        We leave the updating of theWe leave the updating of the zip files to Jame, but he was busy in real life for the last week. The next update should certainly be available in a few days.

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    Mar 7, 2009 @ 12:47

    Cleaned up.

    – Please don’tCleaned up.

    – Please don’t use the [img][/img] icon. It’s only for three star Quality guide, to indicate that there is absoultely no work needed on it.

    – If you’ve finished a work you don’t have to put that into the Status column. Just remove yourself so that other people can continue to test or work on that guide. The green download arrow is enough to indicate an update on the guide, as they will be removed after an update of the “.zip” files…

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    Mar 7, 2009 @ 13:01

    Shinke’s Tauren Starter (1-12) UpdateHey, I managed to upload the .lua now finally. 🙂

    I still got something to do though. Some of the coordinates in Thunder Bluff get displayed wrong and one or two other things. And I wanted to add a line to objectives that don’t auto complete.

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      Mar 7, 2009 @ 18:25

      I am currently testing yourI am currently testing your version of this file and have made it to nearly lvl 10 with my tauren hunter. I have allowed myself to add the “use quest item” button for two steps and uploaded the changed file. It is otherwise unchanged.

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        Mar 8, 2009 @ 1:05

        Thanks for pointing out toThanks for pointing out to me how to do that ^^

        I was going to implement it. I already had uploaded an updated file, before you changed the link and now i noticed that. I changed the link back, your additions are included. I added this feature to the Dwarven Digging Quest as well. I didn’t do the druid quest, but if i remember right you had to use something to summon the last enemy, too. I will figure that out soon and then add it to the file. I also fixed the Thunder Bluff coordinates and added a line that tells you to go to the next step to all non-autocompleting objectives.

        It’s nice you already did some testing. Please try to use my updated file for the rest of the guide and keep me informed about how it’s going. Just write me a PM or post a comment here.

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          Mar 8, 2009 @ 12:17

          Sorry about that. Didn’tSorry about that. Didn’t want to intervene on the file business 🙂
          Well, now it should be sorted out. I have downloaded the newest file and will use that for the rest of lvl 9.5 to the end of the guide. I will let you know if I find room for any improvements.

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    Mar 8, 2009 @ 17:54

    I noticed that the HordeI noticed that the Horde Leveling Guide (31-41) is only about half complete. I’m gonna finish ‘er up.


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      Mar 8, 2009 @ 20:04

      Dave, I know for sure I haveDave, I know for sure I have played through the second end of that guide, and I am looking in my folder now and it looks like all the files are there, so please wait before re-writing them. It’s possible they got left out of the most recent version, or something. I’ll look into it.

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        Mar 8, 2009 @ 20:23

        I was last to revise thatI was last to revise that guide, and the files are 100% there. They only need be tested for quality.


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          Mar 9, 2009 @ 3:16


          I wonder if theHmm 😕

          I wonder if the wrong file is linked. The file I show is named “”. It contains:

          * 002_35_37_Jame_Arathi_Highlands.lua
          * 002_37_38_Jame_Desolace.lua
          * 002_38_39_Jame_Stranglethorn_Vale.lua
          * 002_39_40_Jame_Dustwallow_Marsh.lua
          * 002_40_41_Jame_Arathi_Highlands.lua
          * 002_41_41_Jame_Badlands.lua

          Another good possibility is that I’m missing the boat here. 😉 I do see all of the files listed in Horde download file. However, the file dates are all 2/16/2009. Are those correct and the above files are just updates?

          Lemme know. Rock on. 8)


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            Mar 9, 2009 @ 4:08

            That is exactly the case,That is exactly the case, those are just the updates, sorry for the confusion! For the other parts of the guide, use the files in the most recent version of the addon. Thanks!

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              Mar 9, 2009 @ 10:26

              Sorry for the confusionOops! Sorry for the confusion. I thought it was rather self-explanatory that the zip only contains the changed files to the current release version, as everyone should already have the latest release version anyhow.

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    Mar 9, 2009 @ 11:09

    Shinke’s Tauren Starter (1-12) QualityI have finished testing this guide from start to finish and have to say it plays very smoothly! I have sent minor improvements to TzTz as I went along and he has implemented these on the fly.

    Good job! Quality*, way to go!

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      I’ll be testing itWoohoo! 🙂

      I’ll be testing it out myself either late today or tomorrow. Nice work, TzTz!

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        Mar 9, 2009 @ 17:12

        Difficult bitShinke, I’ve gotta say the guide is really good. However when you send us into the mine at level 8, that is really early and very difficult at that level. Though I am pretty experienced with playing a hunter I found it very difficult, especially because of the rather quick respawns. Might it not be better to send us to do that quest one or two levels later on? Maybe you could re-arrange it a bit. I am level 12 and roughly 80% to level 13 at the end of the guide anyways.


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          Mar 11, 2009 @ 13:01

          I think that’s one pointI think that’s one point where i did it a little different from what shinke told.

          I thought quite a bit about that, you could include it after doing arra’chea and so on. But I guess you wouldn’t be able to accept Hunter’s Way then. You’d have to go back to Bloodhoof Village more often that way. I will have a look at it again though… Maybe you can rearrange it to make it a little bit easier.

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    Mar 9, 2009 @ 11:53

    Snowflake’s Blood Elf Starter (1-12)I have taken on revision of Snowflake’s Blood Elf Starter (1-12). I am making several cosmetic improvements, i.e. adding notes to not auto-completing steps. I will keep the status up to date to let you know how I come along.

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      Mar 9, 2009 @ 14:43

      Snowflake’s Blood Elf Starter (1-12)Hmm, i jusst started testing the version thats up now…
      I havent experienced anything special. The leveling speed is quite amazing, specially for a mage.

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        Mar 9, 2009 @ 16:10

        Good to know there areGood to know there are several people testing! If you find anything feel free to contact me and I’ll fix it. As I said, I am mostly making cosmetic changes as I go along. However if I find a bug that needs fixing or such I’ll change that too and upload the most current version then.

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          Mar 9, 2009 @ 21:04

          I havent played longer thanI havent played longer than lvl 8 yet (around 50%) and the only annoyinig so far is when you forget to ”tick off” the non-auto steps, but you quickly lerans to remember.

          Also i must say that Jiyambi and Jame inspired me quite alot with their blogs, and i decided to make one myself 😀
          Feel free to check it out at
          Its probably not as well written as the others… Probably because im a student in Denmark 😛

          The blog is called Tales of a Belf. It’s not really a ”tale” but i think it sounds cool 😛

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    Mar 10, 2009 @ 2:56

    Revised Horde Feralas 51-52I revised the Horde Feralas lvl 51-52 part of the guide. The updated file can be found [url=]here[/url]. I’m not really sure the “Again with the Zapped Giants” part works correctly, but I tweaked it and I *think* it will work.

    I’m writing the next section now.

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    Mar 10, 2009 @ 5:00

    Revised 21-31 Horde nowRevised 21-31 Horde now available.

    The changes are mostly Superficial.

    * changed download loaction and file name
    * changed zone/level descriptions to match Jiyabmi’s format
    * tested to be sure link to 31-41 functions properly
    * re-tested links between all 21-31 guides

    Still needs to be done:
    * combine/correct/create better notes from the previous AddOn and written guides

    Thanks everyone,


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      Mar 10, 2009 @ 6:27

      *cringes in fear* My format?*cringes in fear* My format? I didn’t know I [i]had[/i] a format! Hopefully I didn’t unknowingly wreak havoc….

      Anyway thanks for all the hard work Dave! You rock!

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        Mar 11, 2009 @ 2:26

        By your format, I meanBy your format, I mean freakin’ sweet of course. 😉


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    Mar 10, 2009 @ 14:42

    I have now played throughI have now played through the Orc/Troll 1-12 guide with all Orc classes (Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Shaman & Warlock).

    It worked well, nothing really to report over what I have already posted.

    As I see it the following still needs to be done before it can be classed as ready:
    – Testing for Mage and Priest.
    – Adding the continuation of the Rogue, Warrior and Shaman class quest chains to the Barrens guide.

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      Mar 10, 2009 @ 21:04

      Awesome! The updated fileAwesome! The updated file for the Barrens section should have those quests in it, but it hasn’t been tested yet because Hosho wanted to revise his guide somewhat.

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    Mar 10, 2009 @ 16:35

    Snowflake’s Blood Elf Starter (1-12) ProgressI am making progress in testing and revising of this guide. I have completed roughly 65% of the guide now and should have already made many cosmetic changes. Additionally I have fixed several small bugs/mistakes and improved the flow in one situation (thanks to Hurjo for pointing this out).

    I have added a download to the current file version.
    Please continue testing with that version of the file.

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      Mar 10, 2009 @ 19:27

      Testing of Snowflakes Blood Elf Levelin guide (DONE)I just finished my testing.

      I found a minor issue which i asked skully to change.

      The leveling time was quite nice, specially if you think about i lvl’ed up both Cooking, Tailoring and enchanting.

      It took me exactly 3 hours 30 minutes. Read more at

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    Mar 10, 2009 @ 18:38

    SuggestionFor the guides that do not have noted mistakes I would like to suggest either changing the lamp pic to appear off or removing it, this way it will be easier to tell which guides have mistakes in them.

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      Mar 10, 2009 @ 18:50

      Yes I already thought aboutYes I already thought about that but I was to lazy and forgot it 😀 But now that you reminded me I will do it. Thanks 🙂

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        Mar 10, 2009 @ 18:56

        Oops sorry I was too quickOops sorry I was too quick 🙂

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          Mar 10, 2009 @ 19:02

          xD Now I’ve overwrittenxD Now I’ve overwritten yours by accident 😀 Sorry, but I thinik it doesn’t matter.

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    Mar 10, 2009 @ 21:13

    I believe I’ve addressed allI believe I’ve addressed all the mistakes in the Horde 41-51 guide, and there are no more mistakes listed for the 31-41 guide. I’ll remove the lamps for those guides, should I delete the mistakes on the mistakes page for the 41-51 guide?

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      Mar 10, 2009 @ 21:42

      Yes please remove theYes please remove the comments you handled from the mistakeslist 🙂

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    Mar 10, 2009 @ 22:29

    Horde 31-41 ImprovementsFound another bug:
    For Run objectives, Grom’gol should be Grom’gol Base Camp, otherwise it won’t auto complete. Also, I think the Boat objective is more accurate for going from Ogrimmar to Grom’gol Base Camp than Run.

    Also, the wiki needs to be updated once this comment gets approved. My other suggestions are at [url=s#comment-22884]comment-22884[/url].

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    Mar 10, 2009 @ 23:29

    Tauren Druid CoordsThe co-ords for the bear druid are (39,27) in Moonglade, not the middle of Thunder Bluff. Looks like no more mistakes. Added it to the table.

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      Mar 11, 2009 @ 12:54

      changed it, thankschanged it, thanks 🙂

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    Mar 11, 2009 @ 6:49

    Snowflake’s Blood Elf Leveling guide (1-12) I’m done testing this section, and it really impressed me.

    I dinged 12 in 3 hours 30 minutes, even with 9 deaths (hate mages) AND both Tailoring, enchanting and cooking

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    Mar 12, 2009 @ 2:22

    I’ve found some issues withI’ve found some issues with the Horde DK (Western Plaguelands) Guide:

    * “Return to Bulkark” quests need to be seperated inyo “Part”s
    * Argent Dawn quest should be “A” not “N” tag so auto-completes
    * Dalson circut needs work; mainly, set auto-complete guidelines
    * “Unfinished Business…” quests need some work
    * “So Called Mark…” quest line needs coords
    * “The Jerimiah Blues” and Charm quest lines were not available to DK. I don’t know if this is normal or not, but my DK unable to take quests. It was late, so I did not research too much.
    * Better notes on “Wildlife Suffers” part 2
    * better notes/placement of “Shopping List” tag line. It’s a bit confusing because the items are drops in Eastern Plaguelands.

    Yo J, I’m running through the DK guide now and am happy to write the changes; just don’t wanna step on toes. Unless their my own of course 😉


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      Mar 12, 2009 @ 3:10

      Doesn’t look like anyone isDoesn’t look like anyone is currently working on it. It’s definitely better if the person testing also does the revisions, that way he or she can make [i]exactly[/i] the changes he or she saw needed to be made. So yeah, go for it, but if you decide to revise it let’s put your name up on the list 🙂 You doing Horde or Alliance?

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        Mar 12, 2009 @ 5:09

        For the Horde…sorryFor the Horde…sorry couldn’t resist

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          Mar 12, 2009 @ 5:58

          Heh, excellent (I’m a HordieHeh, excellent (I’m a Hordie myself).

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      Mar 12, 2009 @ 9:56

      some info“Argent Dawn Commission” does not touch the quest log, you talk to the npc and press complete, and hence will not trigger TourGuide to advance, because TG checks the log and not quest events. In response to that I made it a note with a loot tag to auto complete when you receive an item. There are a few others like this, but some of them do not have static loot.

      I played through this guide as i was making it and again before it was submitted and on both runs i have not had any problems with “The Jerimiah Blues” or the Charm quest lines, so i’m not sure what the problem may be.

      PS: What did you think of the DK starting area? Was it ok despite the lack of coords?

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        Mar 14, 2009 @ 5:07

        Gethe, yup the starting areaGethe, yup the starting area was fine.

        * I did incorrectly mention the Argent Dawn quest. After testing I discovered that you’re correct. “Mission Accomplished!” is the same.

        * No idea regarding the Jerimiah/Charm quests. Only thing I can think of is a level issue. My DK was 61 when attempting to do quest(s). I belive the quest is [52], so I should have been able to take it.

        * my confusion of on the “Shopping List”. I did Jame’s plagueland guides a few weeks back and these items were collected in the “Mini-grind” section.

        FYI, aside from a couple of coord issues and a few note issues, the guide plays well. I just completed with my DK.

        Oh yeah, by the way, running a DK through Plaguelands freakin’ rocks!


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    Mar 13, 2009 @ 5:44

    Just a few things that I’ve noticedFirst and foremost, thanks a lot to all of the people who have taken the time to work on this version of the guides, as you’re seriously saving my chronically leveling self a whole bunch of time. Running through the guides I’ve noticed a few things that are mostly cosmetic in nature, but have lead me to enough frustration that I’ve actually learned to write guides so I can make things how I like them.

    What I’ve noticed is:
    A} A tendency to forget about the |Z| tag. This needs to be used if the location of a waypoint is not in the same zone as the guide is written for. If you don’t do this the guide assumes the waypoint is for the zone of the guide (I figured this out when I ran from Dragonblight to Grizzly Hills and back, because I didn’t read the quest and just followed the arrow).
    B) An over reliance on notes (N, not |N|. There really isn’t a reason, at least that I can think of, for there to be more than 2 (at the extreme most) notes in a row, as most of the information can be consolidated into one, and a single note can hold multiple waypoints, so there’s no need to break it up for that.
    C) Using the Kill (K) unnecessarily. If I’m going to be doing all of quest A at a time I don’t need a K for mob1, mob2 and mob3, instead just add a note(|N|) to the C line giving me the instructions and any waypoints. This will also let the addon load all of the next quest objectives.

    Again, thanks a whole bunch to all of you who’ve worked on these addons, you’ve really made my life a whole lot easier.

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      Mar 13, 2009 @ 6:03

      Thanks very much for theThanks very much for the advice!

      [list=A][*]I definitely agree with this one, and I will add it to the common mistakes in the “How to the Contribute”.
      [*]Also agree, this is somewhat explained in the “How to Contribute” page as well. There are *some* cases, generally only in cities and between circuits, when I could see there being a reason to have two notes in a row – for example one saying to sell/train/restock and a second afterward noting to get certain items out of the bank. That sort of note might be missed as a |N| text explanation of the first note, and is very important for the next section of the guide. But, for the most part, I agree.
      [*]For this one, sometimes it can really help in guide writing to break these up. When the mobs are all in the same area it definitely makes more sense to use a C type step rather than a K type step. But sometimes steps are broken up – killing one type of mob, doing something else, then killing the next type. In those cases, the K type objective is the best one to use.[/list]

      Anyway, thank you for the feedback!

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      Mar 14, 2009 @ 4:54

      Phuze, thanks for thePhuze, thanks for the comments. I’d actually disagree with point 3.

      I find the opposite more frustrating. When you see a line named “Complete ABC” quest, there’s no context. A “C” tagline is the same for kills, collect, loot and use quests. This means, for most folks, you have to hover over the quest to look at the note for further instructions.

      For me, I like the use of Auto-completing “K” and “N” tag lines. I feel, when used effectively, these convey the most information in the shortest amount of time. Plus, they are the best way to guarantee coordinates for each phase of a quest. Not to mention, for quests like The Shimmering Flats in the 31-41 guide, they’re the only way to go. Finally, a series of auto-completing “K” tags allow you to track you progress on hunting quests without an additional addon.

      In fairness, the biggest disadvantage is that Tourguide doesn’t seem to handle these well when you insert yourself in the middle of a guide.

      Just my opinion. Again, thanks for the discussion. 🙂


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    Mar 13, 2009 @ 16:22

    I tested the Mage classI tested the Mage class quest for the 1-12 Troll/Orc guide and found some slight problems.

    The quest ‘Speak with Un’thuwa’ mentions a mage trainer in Razor Hill. No such trainer exist, so you have to take it in Orgrimmar, which also means that missing co-ordinates (39, 86) needs to be added.

    Also, when turning in the follow-up and final quest ‘Ju-Ju Heaps’ it might be useful to add a HS to Razor Hill item for mages.

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    Mar 14, 2009 @ 4:41

    Removed old linksHey folks, I removed the download links for the files that were included in the new update, posted today by Jame. If you need to get to the old links for some reason, hit “Revisions” up top of this page and select the cop just before my message saying the links were removed. Thanks for all the hard work!

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    Mar 14, 2009 @ 16:50

    Jame’s Alliance Leveling guide – NagrandLocation for the quest [65] HELP!. given by Corki is not shown on the map by green dot.

    Leveling DK with all 3 add-ons on.

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      Mar 15, 2009 @ 21:19

      Horde: 31-41 StrangletthornHey, just trying the last part of the 31-41 addon out, and it’s awsome 😀 only one thing I have noticed so far is:
      [37] Goblin Sponsorship (Part 4) : The small hourse with the footbocker appears to be at coords (43,20) and not the (42,20), which on my screen is in the water 🙂
      Keep up the good work 🙂

      EDIT: sorry i posted this as a reply lol.. should really make the “Add New Comment” more visible for a new member 🙂

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    Mar 16, 2009 @ 0:57

    Shinke’s Tauren Starter (1-12) UpdateI implemented the |U| Tag for the last Druid quest.

    I also added a note that you can leave out “Supervisor Fizsprocket”, since it might be quite hard sometimes. I remind you to do this quest on a later occasion though.

    That’s all for now.

    The only downside is that due to the mechanics of tourguide you have to cancel the Quest in order to go on, which involves a little bit of extra running around later on. You could work around it by using a kill Tag for Fizsprocket and working with notes for accepting and completing. The “optional” Tags in Tourguide involve to drop the quest in order to go an anyway, so they won’t help.

    I will work an that in the next days. I hope there’s nothing else to be done after that. We’ll see.

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    Mar 16, 2009 @ 2:30

    Something’s wrong with theSomething’s wrong with the Hellfire Zangarmarsh and Terrokar files in the newly released zip. Please put the link to directly download them up again or fix the zip file… you just get something like this:

    /* Copyright 2008 Google. */ (function() {
    // Input 0
    // Input 1
    var a=\"start\";function b(){this.t={};this.tick=function(c,d){this.t[c]=[(new D.....

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      Mar 16, 2009 @ 3:12

      Horde or Alliance?Horde or Alliance?

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        Mar 16, 2009 @ 10:05

        For the HordeFor the Horde

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          Mar 16, 2009 @ 21:41

          I’ll look into this when II’ll look into this when I get some time, finals week right now so busy studying atm. Perhaps someone (Jahwo?) can look at it before then.

          EDIT: In the meantime, the old file downloads can be found at [url=]this revision of this page[/url].

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            Mar 16, 2009 @ 21:50

            either someone already fixedeither someone already fixed it or I am blind because I don’t see any google-script-html stuff in the files for hellfire, zangarmarsh or terrokar…

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              Mar 18, 2009 @ 11:29

              Strange, i alreadyStrange, i already readownloaded it two times… Okay I’ll try a third time, when it’s fixed everything’s okay ^^

              yup: seems to be fixed… i already posted on jame’s blog, maybee he did it or so.. anyway, everything seems to be okay now 🙂

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    Mar 17, 2009 @ 8:55

    Horde Nagrand guideIn the Horde Nagrand guide (both add-on and regular versions), there is a step to turn in “Missing Mag’hari Procession, but the NPC listed as the questgiver on WoWHead won’t give me the quest. I was able to get the next quest in the chain, so it isn’t really holding me up, but I wanted to know if anybody can confirm if this quest is still in the game, or requires a specific level of Mag’Hari rep?

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      Mar 17, 2009 @ 9:40

      If I had to make a guess,If I had to make a guess, I’d say you’d done something or another out of order, and as Missing Mag’hari procession is a ‘breadcrumb’ (i.e, one quest that leads you to a chain from a hub, but isn’t actually necessary) it’s possible that you either already have taken the quest after, or you’ve already done a quest while removes your availability to take the quest.

      This probably won’t make ‘Nagrand Slam’ much harder, though, as by the time you’ve done all the quest necessary to get it, you’ll have a few more left over for you to do that aren’t to challenging, so it doesn’t really matter.

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    Mar 20, 2009 @ 4:53

    Hey folks, just an update onHey folks, just an update on the Horde 51-60 addon section which I am currently writing. I’ve got up to lvl 57 done and tested. There were a few minor bugs that I am not 100% sure got fixed as I went (they were things I couldn’t test on the same character, for example the next step auto-completing when I turned in a quest for some reason). So more testing on those would be great, but overall I think they are pretty high quality. The work-in-progress file can be found [url=]here[/url] if anyone is desperate for it before it’s complete 😉

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      Mar 21, 2009 @ 0:00

      hey jiyambii didnt get it to work, i tried to unzip into different folders

      hmm can it be wrong on the file or am i doing something wrong

      i tried every folder possible…

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        Mar 21, 2009 @ 7:23

        Ah, problem is the indexAh, problem is the index file isn’t updated yet, so the guides won’t show in game. I’ll upload an updated index file shortly and link it here.

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    Mar 21, 2009 @ 22:53

    Jame’s 41-51Hey, I’m currently at level 47, going through the horde guides, I’ve got two things so far for Jame’s 41-51:
    Stranglethorn Vale – Stranglethorn fever:
    When i complete the quest whith the 3 gorilla waves, it does not mark the quest as completed in the little box on my screen, so it does not move on to the next step: Scaring Sharky, and not even if i manually click the checkmark. Did the two quests and ran back to Booty Bay, and first when I had handed in the quest it decided to move on.

    Dustwallow Marsh (43) – Lack of Surplus
    The quest Lack of Surplus is in Swamp of sorrows, at the east coast, but for some reason the mark on my map, and the arrow which leads way, is at Dustwallow Marsh.

    EDIT: I’ve just hit The Hinterlands, and got completed the Cortello’s Riddle (part 3) and am standing at the waterfall. Now I’m getting told to pick bottles up for a quest called “Whiskey Slim’s Lost Grog” which I do not have, and I am sure that I have not been told to get it. To be sure i just checked the online guide, and no.. That quest is not there. I’m confused 🙂

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      Mar 21, 2009 @ 22:59

      Client versionDear Lars,

      first of all thanks for supporting us with the addon version!

      To your problem with Dustwallow Marsh (43) – Lack of Surplus…
      Are you using the English client version of WoW? With other language clients there are known issues with waypoint placement when being sent to other zones than the one you are currently in.

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        Mar 22, 2009 @ 0:58

        Yes, I am using the EnglishYes, I am using the English client. Unfortunatly I do not have another character in the same level for these quest to doublecheck things.
        But if it has any influence, I can inform you, that my character is a tauren druid.

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        Mar 22, 2009 @ 10:40

        I also had the same problemI also had the same problem with my mage when I was at that guide.

        Also using english client.

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      Mar 22, 2009 @ 2:56

      Hi Lars. These guides wereHi Lars. These guides were recently updated, are you sure you have the most recent version?

      I also came across the grog problem while updating them, and I *thought* I went back in and added the quest accept step, but I may have forgotten.

      In any case, check and make sure you have the most recent update. If you do, please let me know and I will go in and try to fix those steps. Thank you!

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    Mar 22, 2009 @ 6:05

    I like the setup of the newI like the setup of the new mistakes page, Jahwo. Although was it really necessary to bash my guide like that Lars?

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      Mar 22, 2009 @ 6:46

      Um yeah. Even if that was aUm yeah. Even if that was a joke it was completely inappropriate. Not okay.

      EDIT: It also looks like you can put your name as whoever you want it to be. That’s sort of problematical for cases such as this…

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        Mar 22, 2009 @ 8:39

        Wow. This is going to tickWow. This is going to tick me off now that I don’t know who did it. Don’t talk to me for a while. Perhaps I will go “die in a hole.”

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          Mar 22, 2009 @ 10:07

          The new mistakes page reallyThe new mistakes page really is very nice. Good job Jahwo!

          Only the name thing seems to be problematic. Maybe you can put it together with the CMS over here at wow-pro so that it’s linked to user accounts here?

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            Mar 22, 2009 @ 10:20

            Uh, I didn’t think that theUh, I didn’t think that the name thing would become a problem that quick… And no, I think linking the mistaes page with wow-pro won’t happen because I don’t know and I don’t think that jame want’s me to fiddle on the wow-pro server (and of course it’s sooo much work *lazy*)

            I think I will change the whole thing to be anonymous, to prevent name stealing like that, and moderated that every bug report needs to be accepted by an admin (as it’s already the case with editing)

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              Mar 22, 2009 @ 10:50

              w00t? Have I insultedw00t? Have I insulted someone in some way? If so I appologise. If it wsa for picking the name Lars, i’ll happily go make another account with a new name.
              If it was for something I’ve said about the guide, then nothing can overrule the fact that these I have tried so far are awsome!
              If I havn’t done anything, then nvm 🙂

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                Mar 22, 2009 @ 10:56

                Someone (probably ) usedSomeone (probably ;)) used your name on the new mistaes reporting page to pick on Shinkes Tauren guide. If it wasn’t you, you can keep your name. 😉

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                  Mar 22, 2009 @ 13:12

                  It was not. Dunno if youIt was not. Dunno if you believe me, but i can only give you my word (text 😕 ) because tbh, I did not even know that the mistakes page was there. If someone use “lars” again, please send me a notice, so I will create a new account for this website.

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                    Mar 22, 2009 @ 23:59

                    I think you may have had theI think you may have had the misfortune to be the top post on this page when the troll who made that comment did it – they probably saw your name and used it. No worries, I figured it probably wasn’t you since you’d just been so polite in your previous post 😉

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    Mar 22, 2009 @ 6:41

    Horde 51-60 COMPLETE!Hey folks, I know some of you have been waiting, so [url=]here it is[/url]! The packet includes an updated guide index file so the guides will show up in game. I also basically chopped the Hellfire Peninsula guide in half and included that version of it as well, for those who want to go to HFP at 58, then go back to Azeroth for the rest of the guide, and then return at 60. Let me know if you have any questions.

    Overall the quality should be pretty high. There were a few cases where the guide behaved erratically, completing steps that shouldn’t have been completed. I am *hoping* this is due to my frequent UI resets, and that it just got confused. But this section does need more testing before it gets a quality star.

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      Mar 22, 2009 @ 10:47

      Fantastic, Jiyambi

      RightFantastic, Jiyambi 🙂

      Right now I’m at the start of the Un’Goro guide with my 53 mage, and so far I’ve found 0 bugs !

      I’ll keep testing as soon as I can, but I’m going away this week.

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      Mar 22, 2009 @ 11:31

      In Un’Goro 55-56 it saysIn Un’Goro 55-56 it says kill on sight all oozes ‘Kill on sight’, am I supposed to tick that or should it do that itself?

      So far the guide is going great!

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        Mar 22, 2009 @ 23:54

        Yeah, all kill on sightYeah, all kill on sight notices should be clicked off after you read them. Perhaps I should make that clearer somewhere.

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      Mar 23, 2009 @ 3:07

      glitchesAs i was poking around in the code (i’m nosy 😉 ) I noticed a couple things:

      1 The optional silithus guide points to itself rather than outland when finished

      2 There is a paladin trainer in UC next to Sylvanas, so you don’t have to go to the SMC trainer.

      Aside from those it looks good as far as I can tell, great job 8)

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        Mar 24, 2009 @ 2:12

        Gasp! I never knew aboutGasp! I never knew about that Paladin trainer!

        But I’m a JC anyways so I always just went to Silvermoon.

        Thanks very much Gethe, I will fix these errors sometime today and upload them 🙂

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    Mar 22, 2009 @ 8:21

    I just found what I believeI just found what I believe to be 2 spelling mistakes on this page:

    If the download arrow is green it means that there are files to download. Just click the arrow to download them. Put those files into the ‘older’ of the according Guide Package AddOn

    I think it is supposed to say ‘folder’


    Before you start ‘editiing’ a guide you should look if there are some edited files that are not included in the AddOn by default.

    It is supposed to say ‘editing’

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    Mar 23, 2009 @ 1:08

    Alliance 50-60, and 40-50Sometime tommorrow I plan to release the tested and revised version of 50-60 with alot of important changes to it and a high quality and I will be releasing the 40-50 guide with some error fixes.

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    Mar 23, 2009 @ 1:59

    Dragonblight 74-75Looks like Rob is only a level 20 Pally and not able to test his guide. not sure it has been written since its not in this list. so i worked on and made it myself. i don’t care about credit for it one way or another i would just like it tested and see it in the mod so here is a link. yes i played it once. if you dont like it please feel free to edit it how you want.;13512980;/fileinfo.html

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    Mar 23, 2009 @ 13:19

    Shinke’s Tauren Starter (1-12) UpdateHi,

    Last update today i think. I improved the way i implemented the optional quest. I will stop working on the addon now, as I think there are no further mistakes. If there are, I can take care of it, or someone else can. I don’t mind.

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    Mar 24, 2009 @ 0:51

    Alliance 50-60, and 40-50The alliance 50-60 has many important changes too many to count actually, the quality should be great, as there are no more errors and it should be up to Jame’s standards, and for the 40-50 I just fixed a few errors.

    Alliance 50-60:;13518262;/fileinfo.html

    Alliance 40-50:;13518317;/fileinfo.html

    Now to go work on to 60-65 guides for alliance 😀

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    Mar 25, 2009 @ 11:32

    Horde Hellfire Peninsula Tested!Hey folks, I just finished testing the Horde Hellfire Peninsula guide. I only added a few very minor things, such as coordinates for flight masters. I reworked one or two quests to flow a little more smoothly, but it was already at a very high quality and my changes were basically superficial. I would like to award it it’s second star of quality!

    I’m moving on to the Zangarmarsh guide now with my pally – who is already level 65!

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    Mar 26, 2009 @ 18:14

    FileFront is closing upFileFront is closing up shop. If you have anything loaded up there that you want to keep I suggest you get it before they are gone on March 30. [url=]FileFront Farewell[/url]

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      Mar 26, 2009 @ 19:02

      Thanks for the heads upThanks for the heads up Gethe. For those who were uploading there, I suggest Google Sites as an alternative, very easy to use and also free.

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    Mar 27, 2009 @ 20:17

    Hosho + Jame 21-31I just completed the barrens guide. It was good, nice leveling speed. It’s getting revamped anyway but i found it quite good already. You just should pick up goblin invadors when you pick up avenge my village, because then you can directly fly to sunrock retreat after finishing the barrens. this way you have to walk, because you have to pick that quest up :jawdrop:

    Jame 21-31 really need work. Some of the coords are of and what’s realy annoying is the use of kill objectives for EVERY quest even though there’s absolutely NO need for them, because the complete objective would do the job perfectly.

    Then we fly to Splinter Tree to turn in one single quest over zoramgar, then back to zoramgar and then port to OG. Wouldn’t it be better to just do the stuff in zoramgar, fly to splintertree and then port? 😕

    Levelingspeed: Using a hunter with nearly no rested XP it took me 11.5 hours to reach level 21.5 and finish the barrensguide. Took around 50 minutes per level in the barrens.

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      Oooo thanks for the input! IOooo thanks for the input! I am planning on doing a revamp of the 21-31 guide next, I’ll use this advice to make a smoother transition between Hosho’s guide and the 21-31 guide. Just waiting on Dave to be done with his revisions so I can’t start hacking it apart 😉

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        Nice. Up to making theNice. Up to making the transition i was 15 minutes in level 21 and already 30-40% in that level, i think i could have made that level up with only 45 minutes played or even less, if the transition wasn’t so rough.

        I’d suggest taking more care of the origin one comes from. Maybe you can do different versions of a .lua that only goes as far as you need until the guides are the same again and then let the barrens/silverpine/ghostlands guide each point to its own .lua. So the user doesn’t have to click half of the steps away.

        You would make a Guide named [WoW-Pro | Barrens to Jame’s 21-31] Stonetalon Mountains (21-21) and include it like this:

        TourGuide:RegisterGuide(“[WoW-Pro | Hosho’s] The Barrens (12-20)”, “[WoW-Pro | Barrens to Jame’s 21-31] Stonetalon Mountains (21-21)”, “Horde”, function()
        return [[

        or something similar.

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          Mar 27, 2009 @ 22:31

          Eh, I think we’ll just addEh, I think we’ll just add the lead-in stuff in the 10-20 guides, since it’s pretty much assumed the user is going to Jame’s guide afterward.

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            Mar 27, 2009 @ 23:30

            okay even betterokay even better 🙂

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      Avr 1, 2009 @ 3:50

      Thanks Tz, can you listThanks Tz, can you list examples of the coords that are off? I took the time to validate each against Wow-head and Wow-DB, I’d love to correct ’em.

      Can I ask a question, why “annoying” for the use of Kill quests? I’m genuinely curious. The genesis for these came from this line in Jame’s syntax guidelines:

      “Anytime you can provide an arrow for the player to follow, it greatly improves the guide. Rather than making them read a huge block of text as directions, just have them ‘follow the arrows’ and list a series of coordinates…”

      So, bearing this in mind, a couple of questions for my improvement:

      * where the kill quests in bad order?
      * did you ever have to go to a dual monitor to complete a segment?
      * I’m assuming you have run these quests a million times, so from your experience, do you prefer to see one line and done?
      * Do you ever need to hover over a quest to read its instructions/notes?

      If the kill quests are slowing the guide down, they should be removed. It seemed logical to me that they would speed things up.

      Thanks a bunch for the input.


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    Mar 27, 2009 @ 22:56

    Snowflake_Blood_Elf_StarterHey folks, I have uploaded the revised version of Snowflake’s Blood Elf Starter guide which I have tested to only 85%. I fear that I will be offline for two weeks now and didn’t want you guys to wait. It should be of high quality, but still needs testing. Cheers

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    Mar 28, 2009 @ 7:21

    Alliance DragonblightI’m working my Death Knight through one of the 2 Dragonblight guides posted here, can’t remember which. Does anyone know if Rob is still working on his version?

    School was canceled today (and I work at the school) due to blizzard (not the company) conditions, so I spent the day getting my Priest through the rest of Icecrown. I went back and used the Dragonblight guide with my Death Knight. I’m about 50% through and should get through the rest of the guide tomorrow, barring “honey-do’s.”

    Just curious what we need to do.


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    Mar 28, 2009 @ 8:12

    Horde Zangarmarsh RevisedI just finished revising the Horde Zangarmarsh guide, the updated file is [url=]here[/url]. Very very little was changed, just adding a few more coordinates and making some more accurate where I though it would be useful to do so, and adding a few more use actions. Star of quality number 2!

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    Mar 28, 2009 @ 9:12

    Aldor vs Scryer updateWhoever was walking about the reps being disadvantaged if you were a draenei going Scryer was incorrect. Once you do the little quest for Kadgar, your rep goes to neutral with the factions of your choice (though not friendly, so this does make it harder to get the exalted rep but shouldn’t matter for quests).

    I am updating the rest of the Outland guide to include a version for both factions.

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      Mar 28, 2009 @ 17:07

      Very unimportant, but hisVery unimportant, but his name is in fact “Khadgar”, not “Kadgar” 😉

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        I figured I spelled itI figured I spelled it wrong, but I wasn’t sure where to put the h 😉

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    Mar 29, 2009 @ 11:49

    Snowflake’s Blood Elf Starter (1-12)Hey it’s me again, and I’m still online it seems. Anyhow, I’ve used the time to complete testing the Snowflake’s Blood Elf Starter guide and done some last changes. I’ve uploaded the most current version to my new Google Site: [url=]File download[/url]. Please test 🙂

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    Mar 29, 2009 @ 15:37

    Hellfire: The Foot of the CitadelHey again
    I’m now lvl 63 on my druid. Going really fast with these guides 🙂 I saw a little author’s note in the Hellfire quest “The foot of the Citadel” saying that the quest is very difficult to solo: a DK might be able to easy, but not confirmed.
    I can now confirm, to who ever put in that note: it is easily soloable by a 63 feral druid 🙂 using bear form only, did it when I thought I might as well try it before going Zangarmarsh.

    What I did was: Hotting up, rooting 1 add –> bear form, then killing the other add. Then nature’s grasp the Elite guy (away from the rooted add) then charge up to the add and kill it. Afterwards if was basicly just using CD’s and made sure i had enough rage for my frenzied regeneration to heal me.


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    Mar 30, 2009 @ 12:08

    Horde Levelling Guide Hinterlands (48-50)Very good work here – just wanted to add a little feedback.

    Skull Rock. I think it is worth mentioning the cave under skull rock as it has 3 horde supply crates in it.

    Agol’watha. Might be worth mentioning the crates are hidden a bit behind stone tablet/wall things and they should clear to the back.

    After the Jintha’alor circuit there is a suicide run to the bottom. I find it is easier to clear the two guards from the tunnel leading to sharpebeake and then go through it, and jump down carefully, healing as necessary and then ride out. It is much safer!

    Thanks for this – it’s wonderful!

    — Dor

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      Avr 1, 2009 @ 13:12

      Well, yes and no. The questsWell, yes and no. The quests are random spawns, they don’t always appear at the same locations, so that would just be misleading 😛

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        Avr 1, 2009 @ 17:35

        Eh, it’s still worthEh, it’s still worth mentioning that there might be crates down there. When I tested it, I didn’t go down there and just went to the ruins and couldn’t find enough crates, it took me forever to complete the quest because I was waiting for crates to respawn.

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          Avr 1, 2009 @ 23:29

          But I’m too lazy to add it!But I’m too lazy to add it!

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            Well maybe I will!Well maybe I will! 😛 😉

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    Mar 30, 2009 @ 15:06

    Alliance – Howling Fjord errorsI added a couple in the link, but when I went back to the page, nothing was there.

    Can you check to see if the error is there for me?


    Edit: I checked this morning and they’re there now.

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    Mar 31, 2009 @ 1:04

    Maybe we could use the bugMaybe we could use the bug report page not only for bugs but also for any other test runs. I don’t see any of the guides receiving (further) stars, although they are there for quite some time. Maybe clearing up the conditions under which the stars are given would help as well. I just think it’s time that some guides get their green hook ^^. It would make it more clear which guides still need work.

    I just think there’s a lack of feedback currently.

    Another question: Is Hosho still working on his Barrens guide? There’s no one listed for working on this. And instead of Jiyambi, Freedave is listed for 21-31. But as long as someone’s working on it it’s fine ^^

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      Mar 31, 2009 @ 5:25

      I couldn’t get ahold ofI couldn’t get ahold of Hosho, so I went ahead and ran through the Barrens guide, the updated file is linked for download. It’s not perfect yet though and needs more testing.

      I’ve messaged FreeDave and I’m hoping he’ll be done with 21-31 soon so I can speed test it, but at the moment no I’m not working on it.

      For the quality stars: I agree, we need to be more clear. Right now, basically just leave a comment if you feel the guide deserves a star. This means you have run the most recent version and had extremely minimal issues, which you fixed, or no issues – it flows nicely, there are no spelling/language mistakes, and overall it’s something that WoW-Pro should be proud to show to the public.

      I’ll see about writing a more specific definition for the stars in a bit, with input from the other moderators and of course Jame 🙂

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    Mar 31, 2009 @ 13:22

    Hey guys
    Just completedHey guys
    Just completed Terokkar Forrest on my druid. Overall I think it was great. I did not put in notice of any things which needed change. But it went quite fast as well.
    So far Nagrand is looking good too.

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    Mar 31, 2009 @ 19:20

    Horde Blade’s EdgeI was wondering if there was any interest in this guide actually being written up in addon form. I know I would like it, and would be willing to at least do an initial write up, but it only seems worth while if I’m not the only one.

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      Mar 31, 2009 @ 20:13

      AgreeWell I think it being one of Jame’s guides, and it being listed above, that should be two good reasons why the addon version of it should exist 🙂 So go for it!

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      Mar 31, 2009 @ 20:16

      Wait, isn’t there already aI was planning to write any unwritten guides as I cam across them. My test character is in Terokkar now, so it wouldn’t be too long from now. However if you would rather do it that’s okay too.

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        Avr 1, 2009 @ 3:54

        FiguresSo, now that I’ve quasi-volunteered to do this real life is forcing me off of wow for awhile, if not for the long haul. Good luck with it.

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          Avr 1, 2009 @ 17:28

          Hah, that’s fine. Have funHah, that’s fine. Have fun with whatever you are doing in RL!

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    Avr 1, 2009 @ 7:34

    Bye guysRight, I’m now lvl 70, and going Northrend as resto, which, in my head, means that I will not be questing to level up mainly.
    I’ve only been here a short while, but leveled from mid 30-ies to now 70, and I must say, I’ve really enjoyed it this time. I’ll use these guides for sure, when I’m leveling up my next character.
    Keep up the good work 😉

    Best Regards

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      Avr 1, 2009 @ 17:31

      Thanks Lars! Once duel-specThanks Lars! Once duel-spec comes out, I suggest you go back and do the Northrend quests for monies 😉 and these guides still rock for that!

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        Avr 2, 2009 @ 14:42

        I’ll be backI’ll be back looking for bugs at a time, my goal will be to have 10 chars above 70, maybe at 80, atm I have 5. Especially now when Blizzard don’t give us new contend for ages, I get bored easily and I tend to play on my alts 🙂

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    Avr 1, 2009 @ 20:52

    Hey guys, sorry for my lackHey guys, sorry for my lack of activity, I’ve been very busy with RL stuff. But I’m back now, so I’m going to catch up on everything and upload a new version of the addon tonight!

    ps: There’s a problem with the 40-50 and 50-60 alliance files someone uploaded (sorry I’m not sure who did). All the zones are grouped together into one single .lua file for 40-50 and same thing for 50-60.

    This is not good. We must split the guide by zones for several reasons

    1. The file becomes too big and can create problems when loading
    2. The longer the file, the harder it is for someone to jump in the guide midway.
    3. TomTom requires the proper zone name in each .lua or it will give wrong coords in many cases.

    Anyway, in the current version of the addon, the zones are properly split up, so if you are going to work on a section, don’t change that, don’t group them up into one big .lua, you will be wasting all the work you put on the files if you do that. Only change what’s inside the .luas

    Oh and also, please don’t change the name of the files, unless you see a mistake in the zone name. And if you do, mention it to me because I’ll have to fix the mistake in the .xml file as well.

    Thank you!

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      Avr 1, 2009 @ 21:41

      To upload groups of guides,To upload groups of guides, use a zip or rar file to put all the guide files in one folder. Just thought I’d mention that in case that was the reason someone grouped them all like that.

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    Avr 1, 2009 @ 23:16

    Hey guys, just released aHey guys, just released a new version of the addon!


    WoW-Pro-TourGuide_Alliance v 0.6.3 — Update April 1st 2009

    *Default guides can be accessed again. They can be found at the bottom of the list | Thank Jahwo for this fix!
    *New revamped chapters will follow soon. Please have patience!


    WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Horde v0.5.1 — Updated April 1st 2009

    *Default guides can be accessed again. They can be found at the bottom of the list. | Thank Jahwo for this fix!
    *Added: Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide 51-60 | Jiyambi
    *REVAMPS: Hellfire Peninsula, Zangarmarsh, Snowflake’s Blood Elf Starter, Hosho’s 12-20


    Thanks to the whole community, and especially to Jiyambi for the huge efforts on the horde side!

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    Avr 2, 2009 @ 17:56

    Barrens Guide UpdateI’m going to remove the old download links for stuff that was released in the new guide. However, I did just make a few minor updates to the Barrens guide, so download the new file if you are using that one!

    NOTE: I only removed links for the guides Jame expressly stated had been included in the new version. Jame, let me know if the other guides with download links are included, and I’ll remove those links.

    If you need to access the old links, the old version of this page can be found [url=]here[/url].

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      Avr 2, 2009 @ 18:35

      The Tauren Starter and the

      The Tauren Starter and the horde DK guide downloads should also be taken down, as they are exactly the same as the files we already had in the previous version.


      Should take down the downloads for the 40-50 and 50-60 files. They simply can’t be used in their current form.

      ps: thanks for doing this Ji! <3

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        Avr 2, 2009 @ 18:41

        Done! And no probDone! And no prob 🙂

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    Avr 2, 2009 @ 18:46

    Snowflake GhostlandsI made a very small change to the Ghostlands guide, at the end, to help transition into the Barrens guide. The download is linked above and also [url=]here[/url].

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    Avr 2, 2009 @ 21:26

    USE OF ZONE TAG!I am currently working on the Horde 21-31 guide, and the zone tag is not used AT ALL in this guide. This means all the coordinates that were put in that are not in the main zone point to the COMPLETELY WRONG PLACE!

    You ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO use this tag when you are talking about a zone that is not the main “title zone” of the lua file you are working on. It makes all your hard work getting those coords useless to the user! Luckily it’s not hard at all to add after the fact, and I’m taking care of the 21-31 guide now, but please in the future use this tag!

    EDIT: Also I didn’t mean to sound harsh, I made this mistake at first too. I just wanted to stress how important it was 😉

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      Avr 3, 2009 @ 6:23

      LOL. I suddlenly rememberLOL. I suddlenly remember why I manage software testers and am not one; so I can be the one to write correspondence in all caps 😉

      I will turn to the piece de resistance of any good tester ‘Huh? Works on my pc.’ …it does, I ran twice in testing.

      FYI, as I’m sure you are aware, if the zone and the title do not match, Tourguide will default to the current zone. Because |Z| is hardly mentioned on the syntaz page, and, in the original 21-31 .lua files, was never even used. I did not use it either. Instead, I followed the written guide to a tee and pointed the user to the right zone via coord. Agian, this worked spledidly for me, but I knew what to expect. Obviously there is a way to break it.

      No big deal. It’s your show. I”M JUST HERE TO PARTY!

      BTW hope you rocked ur finals 🙂


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        Avr 3, 2009 @ 6:30

        Huh, I guess I should haveHuh, I guess I should have realized this. Well poo. Ignore all my silly comments then!

        I have heard complaints of things pointing to the wrong place though, specifically for this section, so it’s probably best to include them. Just not as crucial as I made it out to be 😛

        Also, I did well enough to pass, and that’s good enough for me 😉

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        Avr 7, 2009 @ 17:45

        That’s not exactly true.That’s not exactly true. Tourguide will default to the current zone ONLY if the zone title you put in the file is erroneous, and it will give an error message everytime a new step contains a note with coordinates.

        On the other hand, if you put the zone name properly at the start of the file, all the coords will point you to that zone, even if you are on the other side of the universe.


        1. Put in the correct zone name in the file at the start.
        2. When we move to another zone, make a new file with the correct zone name again.
        3. However, if you only have to do a few steps in another zone, use zone tags, there’s no need to create an extra file just for a few steps.

        Example: Let’s say you are writing the addon for a big questing section in Duskwood, but a few steps make you go to Westfall to complete only 1 or 2 quests and then make you hearth to stormwind to train new skills and turn one quest in, before going back to Duskwood to resume questing. How many files will you need?

        Just one in that case. Use Duskwood as zone name and add zone tags for Westfall and Stormwind to the corresponding steps.

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          Avr 7, 2009 @ 18:16

          The other reason is, usersThe other reason is, users don’t always go directly from one step to the next. Sometimes they deviate from the guide, to quest with a friend, do an instance, or a group quest. If zone tags aren’t used, they will get incorrect coordinates.

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    Avr 5, 2009 @ 23:29

    Bloodelf starterI just finished the guide with what i think is the latest version. It’s nice except the following:

    Defending Morningbreeze should be taken later. You are told to accept it and then run back to the camp where you come from, afterwards you cross the quest giver again.

    You should first finish the quests in the northeast (we are told to accept them (Willythen and the spire) and then go to silvermoon, just to return and finish them later) befor going to silvermoon.

    the |Z|-Tag is missing for the Silvermoon steps

    You should first kill witherbark the old and do the follow up quest for that while killing the other treants while doing that. Otherwise you end up killing more treants than you need and spending more time than you need.

    I got the version from 1. of april.

    (Adding class quests would be nice too ^^)

    btw: i tried to enter that into the bug page for the guide but it didnt seem to work o0

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      Avr 5, 2009 @ 23:34

      It did work, it just was inIt did work, it just was in a moderation queue 😉 Because we already had some name abusing and some advertising and mysterious links 😀

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        Avr 5, 2009 @ 23:57

        You should put some kind ofYou should put some kind of note to that effect after someone posts, I got confused too >_<

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    Avr 6, 2009 @ 4:08

    UPDATE! Horde TerokkarI’ve completed updates for the Horde Terokkar section. Again, I made a few minor updates and added a couple coords, but it was already very high quality. I’m giving it’s second quality star.

    An addition I made – I created two separate files, one for Aldor and one for Scryer. The difference is not great in this guide, but I plan to follow this template for later guides (namely, the Netherstorm guide). If you choose to play the scryer version, you MUST also download the updated guide file. All three files (both guides and the guides.xml file) are contained in the zip, linked above and [url=]here[/url].


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      Avr 7, 2009 @ 17:49

      Mucho awesome!Mucho awesome!

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    Avr 6, 2009 @ 7:32

    Non-Leveling GuidesI’m currently running through the netherdrake/netherwing guide so I can get one of those cool netherdrakes 8) as well as achievements.

    I’m going to make an addon version of this guide as I think that it would be well suited for the addon.

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    Avr 7, 2009 @ 2:42

    Revamp! Hellfire Penninsula!Just finished the revamp of Hellfire on my mage and already started on the Zangarmarsh revamp. The new guide can be found at:

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      Avr 7, 2009 @ 18:04

      Hmm, the zone name formatHmm, the zone name format used in your file is wrong:

      Hellfire Peninsula (WoW-Pro | Jame’s 60-62)

      It should be:

      [WoW-Pro | Jame’s] Hellfire Peninsula (60-62)

      That’s the naming format we’ve been using since January now, which makes me a little worried about the version of the file you used to make your revamp. You might have based your work on a file which was outdated and therefore probably missed a lot of fixes which had already been made.

      So please from now on, before you start working on a section, download the latest version!

      Now I’m gonna have to cross check your version and the current one to see if any of the previous fixes are missing, and that’s a lot of work :/

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    Avr 7, 2009 @ 3:06

    RepostJust reposting my earlier revamps of james 40-50, and 50-60 because filefront is unfortunately gone.
    Jame’s Alliance 40-50:
    Jame’s Alliance 50-60:

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      Avr 7, 2009 @ 3:22

      FileFront is still up!!FileFront is still up!!

      It was recently reacquired from the original owners of the site and will not be shut down!!!


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      Avr 7, 2009 @ 18:00

      Yes, but I can’t used themYes, but I can’t used them in their current form. All the zone names (and consequently, coordinates are also screwed) are wrong because you bunched everything in one single file for each chapter 🙁

      Please check your private messages.

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    Avr 7, 2009 @ 18:58

    NewNew version!


    WoW-Pro-TourGuide_Alliance v 0.6.4 — Update April 7th 2009

    *Fixes to Hellfire Peninsula | Arannar
    *Fixes to Borean Tundra | JamesL85
    *Fixes to Howling Fjord | JamesL85


    WoW-Pro_TourGuide_Horde v0.5.2 — Updated April 7th 2009

    *Added optional circuits and fixed transitions: Plaguelands, Silithus, Hellfire Penninsula, etc. | Jiyambi
    *Added Scryer and Aldor version of Terokkar Forest | Jiyambi
    *Fixes to Snowflake’s Ghostland 12-20 | Jiyambi
    *Fixes to Hosho’s Barrens 12-20 | Jiyambi

    [hr]Big updates to come, real soon!

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    Avr 9, 2009 @ 3:24

    Horde Nagrand Update!Hey folks!

    Made some very minimal changes and corrections to the Horde Nagrand addon file. Like all the Outland guides, it was already very high quality so only small changes were needed, and as such I’ve given it it’s first quality star. It is now available for download [url=]here[/url].


    P.S. for more juicy details about this update, [url=]check my blog post[/url].

    /end shameless self-promotion!

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    Avr 9, 2009 @ 11:37

    [WoW-Pro | Jame’s 41-51] Swamp of Sorrows (41)Hey guys, something seems to be mixed up in this guide and the previous ones…
    In 002_38_39_Jame_Stranglethorn_Vale.lua you are e.g. told to Accept, Finish and Turn in the quest Mok’thardin’s Enchantment (Part 1):

    Line 6: A Mok’thardin’s Enchantment (Part 1)|QID|570|
    Line 11: C Mok’thardin’s Enchantment (Part 1)|QID|570|
    Line 38: T Mok’thardin’s Enchantment (Part 1)|QID|570|

    Then I am told to take the follow up:

    Line 39: A Mok’thardin’s Enchantment (Part 2)|QID|572|

    The next time this quest is ever mentioned is in the file 002_41b_Jame_ Swamp_of_Sorrows.lua:

    Line 5: A Mok’thardin’s Enchantment |N| (31.13, 29.24)| |L|3862 1| |QID|571|

    Nowhere in the guide files in between you are ever told to do the objectives or hand in part 2 of the quest line before accepting part 3. Not to mention that the “(Part 3)” part is missing in the A command 🙂

    Unfortunately I do not have the time for WoW anymore and have therefore cancelled my subscription. So I will be off of WoW in 2 days 🙁 Still I will continue to watch the progress and thank you all for putting so much effort in this project! Good luck!

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      Avr 9, 2009 @ 21:16

      Thanks very much Skully,Thanks very much Skully, I’ll look into this when I have time. As I recall, this section was kind of a mess when I started revamping it, and it was also one of the first sections I edited so I was still learning 😉

      Hope you can come back to WoW soon!

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        Avr 10, 2009 @ 10:31

        Having done these missingHaving done these missing quests now, I notice that in a later guide file, 002_44b_45_Jame_Stranglethorn.lua these steps are included :O

        Lines 11-15:

        C Raptor Mastery (Part 3)|N|Jungle raptors are just across the road from the miners. Keep the Jungle Stalker Feathers you find too. | |QID|196|
        C Mok’thardin’s Enchantment (Part 2) |N|Keep killing raptors until you find 10 Jungle Stalker Feathers. (33,39)| |L|3863 10| |QID|572|

        T Mok’thardin’s Enchantment (Part 2) |QID|572|N|Back at Grom’gol|
        A Mok’thardin’s Enchantment (Part 3) |N|Get the follow up. | |QID|571|

        Oh well, I guess I’ll have these done by then 🙂

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          Avr 10, 2009 @ 17:18

          Heh, well I’ll still goHeh, well I’ll still go through and make sure the “Parts” match up and that everything is a-okay 😉

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    Avr 10, 2009 @ 1:26

    Well ill tryI started using the add on today and started with your badlands guide.
    I’ve decided to undertake the testing on it and i will try to add coords to all the questgivers.
    Im not sure if i understand syntax yet 😕
    but wish me luck!! 🙂

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      Avr 10, 2009 @ 2:20

      While testing is alwaysWhile testing is always welcome and useful, we don’t really *need* coordinates added for all questgivers because Lightheaded does the job for us. So I wouldn’t waste the time if I were you. It would be better to just test the other facets of the guide – make sure coords are always provided when doing quests, for example.

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        Avr 10, 2009 @ 5:19

        While most quests do notWhile most quests do not need coords for the quest givers, there are some quests that are received from objects such as signs, outhouses, or any of the other inanimate objects in the game world. These do not have coords recorded for them in Lightheaded, if you find any of these that do not have coords please do post them

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          Avr 10, 2009 @ 6:08

          Likewise, some NPCs moveLikewise, some NPCs move around so Lightheaded sometimes gives the wrong coordinates. In these cases you need to remove the quest ID and manually input the correct coords.

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        Avr 11, 2009 @ 3:47

        o ok i kinda didn’t reado ok i kinda didn’t read through all the way and saw the thing about lightheaded after i had alredy posted. Soooo ill be testing!

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    Avr 11, 2009 @ 16:50

    41-42 BadlandsI was questing and it told me to goto a NPC and pick up a quest.
    I goto the NPC and when it goes to quest description thing(where u can accept/decline it) tourguide says this quest is not in your guide! but its the quest it is telling me to get. i went into the code and checked it the QID is correct and now im incredibly confused.
    the object in question is
    A This Is Going to Be Hard (part 1) |QID|734

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      Avr 11, 2009 @ 22:54

      The problem is in theThe problem is in the quest’s title, not the quest ID. TourGuide isn’t recognizing the title as belonging to that quest for some reason. Which faction are you, Horde or Alliance?

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        Avr 12, 2009 @ 5:04

        Maybe it’s because it saysMaybe it’s because it says (part 1) in the title?

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          Avr 12, 2009 @ 5:07

          No, unless it’s the factNo, unless it’s the fact that “part” isn’t capitalized. Multiple-part quests *have* to have the (Part X) in the title in order to keep them all from auto-completing when the first one does. Tourguide is programmed to ignore that when checking the title on the accept screen, but it’s possible that it’s caps sensitive and that might be the problem.

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            Avr 12, 2009 @ 5:14

            Oh, I learn something newOh, I learn something new everyday 😀

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            Avr 12, 2009 @ 10:45

            As obvious as this might be,As obvious as this might be, I think it might still be worth mentioning:
            When testing with client language versions other than English this happens too. But despite this message, once the quest is accepted it always worked for me.

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    Avr 12, 2009 @ 5:02

    Revamp! ZangarmarshJust finished testing and revising Zangarmarsh for the Alliance and moving on to Terokkar Aldor and Scryer, the new version of Zangarmasrh can be found here:

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      Avr 12, 2009 @ 5:06

      /cheer! /cheer!

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    Avr 12, 2009 @ 19:34

    Off track but…i wanted a priest toon rely bad so i made a night elf one.
    as i was running around i was told to complete(crossed swords thingy) the quest crown of earth part 1.
    it had no note on it and no coords so finally i was reading quest descript and saw north of aldrassil and using my map(which was filled in by an addon) to find the well.
    i checked in the guide and it had coords and a quest id. does this mean that Lightheaded is canceling tourguide out or what?
    T Crown of the Earth (Part 1) |N| (59.10, 39.40)| |QID|921|

    should i just remove the quest id?
    also if im posting this on the wrong page can sumone link me to the correct one.

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      Avr 12, 2009 @ 20:02

      First of all, have coordsFirst of all, have coords been working for other steps?

      If so, then it is indeed a problem with Lightheaded conflicting with TourGuide, and yes, the only way to fix it would be to remove the quest ID. But please be sure that the coordinates for other steps are working correctly first, so we know that this is the cause and not something else with your user interface.

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        Avr 12, 2009 @ 23:22

        There is an option toThere is an option to display note coords in addition to lightheaded coords in TourGuide’s interface options.

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    Avr 12, 2009 @ 21:11

    Just a quick note:

    Since myJust a quick note:

    Since my testing character is level 70 now and I’m anxious to run instances, I’ve decided to skip on to Howling Fjord. I will come back and write the Blade’s Edge guide eventually if no one gets to it sooner. However right now I want to run instances, and mostly people run instances in Northrend at my level, and I just don’t have the gear to tank them properly with these low level quest rewards. So, on to Howling Fjord, and I’m sorry if you were looking forward to the Blade’s Edge guide!

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      Avr 12, 2009 @ 22:42

      Heh, I don’t blame youHeh, I don’t blame you. I was 70 by Blade’s Edge too, and by that time Outlands was boring me.

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        Avr 12, 2009 @ 22:51

        Heh, well it’s not that IHeh, well it’s not that I mind staying in Outland so much, but I tried tanking UK with Nagrand gear on and got my face eaten off. So Northrend it is.

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    Avr 12, 2009 @ 23:49

    Alliance Hellfire GuideHey,

    Just tested the Hellfire guide on my Death knight, I don’t think I found any mistakes, however I think there were one or two way points missing. Unfortunately my hard disk just mucked up and I have to reinstall the OS. This means I lost the nice little text file that I had with all notes (few though they were) on this guide. 🙁

    Sorry that I cannot be more helpful.


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    Avr 17, 2009 @ 23:47

    Wow-pro NLX3674 icecrown 79-80Is this a wow pro guide? It’s in the wow pro folder. If so I have a number of notes so far.

    “No one impedes us…no one denies us….and if need be….no one survives us…,”

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      Avr 20, 2009 @ 17:14

      I Don’t Think So….I think this is one of the default guides that comes with TourGuide?

      Although, I think this guide was still included in the WoWPro addon when Jahwo changed it to hide everything except for the WoWPro guides.


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      Mai 14, 2009 @ 18:24

      It’s a guide written by aIt’s a guide written by a wow-pro user. We’re not 100% sure about the quality, so it needs testing.

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    Avr 21, 2009 @ 1:55

    Revamp! Terokkar, Scryer and Aldor!I finished the revamps of the Terokkar guides for both Aldor and Scryer both are awesome qualties, but the Aldor version is missing a few repair locations, since I choose Scryers, but that shouldn’t be a problem at all. The guides can be found here:


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    Avr 21, 2009 @ 3:47

    Horde Howling Fjord RevisionHey all! Just finished playing through the Horde Howling Fjord addon version, it went very smoothly and I only added a few minor things such as coordinates for flight masters and innkeepers. I awarded it a star of quality. You can download the updated file [url=]here[/url].

    [url=]Check out my latest blog post for more info![/url]

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      Avr 21, 2009 @ 23:18

      Yay Jiyambi =D!Yay Jiyambi =D!

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      Avr 22, 2009 @ 0:37

      I agree that it was veryI agree that it was very smooth. However, in the Borean Tundra Guide, you’ll find many more errors than before! Haha, I was too tired to report them, but things to watch out for are missing coordinates and missing quest turn-in steps, or for that matter, glitchy complete steps.

      I don’t know, maybe it’s just that I checked off a step when I wasn’t supposed to, but they were “note” steps! I didn’t think they were linked to quest turn-in steps! :O

      Anyway, I’ll start going through the Dragonblight guide soon, and this time I’ll report EVERYTHING. 😀

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        Avr 22, 2009 @ 1:43

        Yes, I’ve come across thisYes, I’ve come across this already. A few missing quest IDs, and some quests even with IDs didn’t show coords, I added them. Also the note step you are talking about just had it’s auto complete thing entered incorrectly, fixed it. I think I’m around halfway done with the zone now.

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          Avr 22, 2009 @ 5:43

          Dang, that’s fast. You’veDang, that’s fast. You’ve almost caught up to me now! :O

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    Avr 22, 2009 @ 15:32

    Shadow Moon ValleyHi Jame,
    The guides I have tried are so good it’s hard to imagine not using them whenever I want to level a character!
    I jumped into Shadow Moon Valley guide as I had already done a few of the quests before I decided to give your add-on a try. I just finished the guide and tried to select the next part “Howling Fjord”. It automatically came up as 100% completed and loaded Borean Tundra. I have a level 72 character, should I proceed to Borean Tundra, is it a fault. Your advice would be appreciated.

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      Avr 22, 2009 @ 19:29

      This is a bug that happensThis is a bug that happens occasionally with the Howling Fjord guide, and I just have no idea why. We have had several people with this problem, but also lots of folks who have gotten through the guide fine without any problems. Try Shift-clicking the guide to reset it, this may help but it also may not.

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        Avr 27, 2009 @ 11:28

        Bug sorted / I was using the first guide that was relevent to me when the select guide window opened, it didn’t occur to me there might be several version covering the same area.
        The problem is with the guide listed at the bottom, not Jame’s! I could have gone to Howling Fjord after all, if I had scrolled up the list. It’s too late for me now, just dinged level 75 after Borean Tundra and moving onto Jame’s Dragonblight guide.
        I must declare, I love this add-on

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    Avr 22, 2009 @ 22:05

    Manovan’s Undead StarterI have played through Manovan’s Undead Starter Guide and made several improvements, fixed a few things and added more info where appropiate. Overall the guides flow is very good and I would like to award it it’s first star for quality. The revised file is linked above and can be [url=]downloaded here[/url].

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      Avr 22, 2009 @ 22:08

      Yay for stars!Yay for stars!

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    Avr 23, 2009 @ 13:10

    Snowflake’s Ghostlands Guide (13-21)I have picked up Snowflake’s Ghostlands Guide (13-21) for testing and revision. To start with I have downloaded the newest version from Jiyambi which was linked for download. I have already started to make improvements as I came along (e.g. adding locs for innkeeper, flight master, and fixing some quests which should be racial). The newest file version will be linked above or can be [url=]downloaded here[/url].

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      Avr 23, 2009 @ 21:51

      Thanks Skully all I did toThanks Skully 🙂 all I did to it was change the end a tiny bit to make it flow into the next chapter, so a full revamp is much appreciated!

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    Avr 24, 2009 @ 6:23

    Horde 21-31I decided it was silly to hold on to the updated 21-31 files until I finish speed testing them. [url=]Here they are after the first run through[/url]. I’ll post another update after the speed test.

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    Avr 24, 2009 @ 9:59

    Making Money while guide testingHey folks!

    I know some of you are taking a page from Jame’s (and my) book and trying to level brand new characters on brand new servers to test this addon.

    I have been doing this (as most of you know) to speed test the addon. I have been absolutely shocked at the amount of money I have been able to make with pretty much zero time and effort.

    To shamelessly plug my blog, [url=]go check out my most recent post[/url] to see how I do it. You should have no problem at all getting 16 slot bags and your mount by level 30.

    I might make this into a gold guide here someday, but it’s really a very simple set of tips and I don’t think it’s guide worthy. Perhaps one of you gold guide people will incorporate it into one of your guides, that would be excellent and you have my full permission and support 🙂

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    Avr 24, 2009 @ 15:36

    Have played through theHave played through the Snowflake’s Blood Elf starter with some characters, and it seems mostly fine, except for the following:
    – Coordinates for steps in Silvermoon City are sometimes in wrong zone.
    – It’s annoying in Fairbreeze village to have to run up-hill to get a quest, then run down and buy fireworks, and then again up to do said quest.
    – Lack of class-quest integration.

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    Avr 28, 2009 @ 15:08

    Bug Reporting?I come by here and check occasionally to see if someone has posted bugs on the sections I’m revising. I looked yesterday and all 4 of the Alliance Northrend sections have errors on them. I thought it might be a small problem but they’re still there today.

    Can you check on that Jahwo?


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      Avr 28, 2009 @ 18:38

      I am aware of that problemI am aware of that problem but I had no time to solve it right now… Nevertheless you can go to the sections you want to check from [url=]this page[/url]. It should work…

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        Avr 29, 2009 @ 6:20

        Cool…ThanksI’ll keep that page in mind…..Doesn’t look like I’ve missed any errors so far.


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    Avr 29, 2009 @ 0:21

    Downloading dragonblight addonHi, first time poster but longtime fan of your guides (and now using the addon). I have tried to install the Alliance Dragonblight chapter and I’ve put it in the wow-pro folder in my addon’s folder like all the others are, but when I log into wow the chapter doesn’t appear under the guides list like the others. I couldn’t find any info on here that addressed my problem, but I would love some help.


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      Avr 29, 2009 @ 8:23

      You need to edit theYou need to edit the “Guides” file. It’s in the same folder as the other files. Open it with a text editor like Notepad. You’ll see a long list of file names, copy and paste one line, then edit the name to match the dragonblight file name. Once you see them I think it will be pretty much self explanatory.

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    Mai 3, 2009 @ 11:12

    Snowflake’s Ghostlands Guide (13-21)Just to let you know I am still working on Snowflake’s Ghostlands Guide (13-21), however progress is being slow. Slow but steady 🙂 Anyhow… uploaded a new file version just now. Download location is unchanged.

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    Mai 4, 2009 @ 0:54

    Hey, so I just downloadedHey, so I just downloaded the Alliance Dragonblight file, and put it in my wow-pro tourguide addon folder, but after multiple restarts I still cannot find the guide on tourguide under the guide list, not sure what i’m missing, any help would be appreciated.

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      Mai 4, 2009 @ 1:27

      You need to open theYou need to open the “Guides” file with a text editor (like notepad). You’ll see a long list of guides. Just copy+paste one of the lines to the space where the Dragonblight guide should be, and change the name to match the Dragonblight file. This should make it appear in game.

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    Mai 5, 2009 @ 3:55

    Alliance Howling FjordI just finished the second run through of this section and uploaded it.

    There wasn’t much to fix, found another typo and added the coords for the jump off point before the Eyes of the Eagle quest.

    I think it’s pretty close.


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      Mai 5, 2009 @ 9:53

      ThanksWell thanks a lot James for doing this! Sounds like it’s worth a quality star then 🙂
      Now have you already added that quality star after posting this? Yey, I love stars! 😀

      Also, are you still continuing work on this or did you just forget to “remove yourself” from the list and change the status to “free for testing”?

      Anyhow, big thanks!

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        Mai 5, 2009 @ 15:12

        Work in Progress….I still have 3 toons to go through that zone (in steps). The second time you get Fjord Grubs (I think that’s what they’re called, the step where you have to get 10 of them) didn’t auto complete. I looked and looked and couldn’t figure out why it didn’t. I’d like to go through at least one more time. There was one other step that I can’t remember (it’s on a notepad at home and I’m at work) that wasn’t correct and I’d like to go by at least one more time.

        I did put another star up and my mage is working his way through Borean Tundra now so that should have a second star shortly. I think Jame is downloading all the “works in progress” files and putting them into the “current” release when he posts that. If that’s not correct, let me know.

        My wife is going to go across the state to visit her daughter this weekend which I thought meant I’d have the weekend to play. 🙂 Apparently, I’m going along….. 🙁


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          Mai 7, 2009 @ 11:31

          Alright, good to hear. YouAlright, good to hear. You really are very thorough with testing, I like that! 🙂

          Concerning the “removing yourself” I didn’t mean the download link of course. That should always remain linked to the most up to date file version. What I meant was when one person is finished testing & revising and has uploaded the most current file, then they should remove their name as being the current person in charge. That way everyone knows which guides can be picked up for revision, and which ones cannot (because they are currently being worked on by somebody).

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            Mai 7, 2009 @ 16:20

            Thorough?That’s the nicest thing anyone has ever called me…..I appreciate that….LOL

            I wouldn’t say I’m thorough, I just know that I never get anything right the first time…..Or the second time, or the third time, etc. A wise man once said that practice makes perfect. I’m just hopeful that I will have gone through enough times that Jame will be able to run through it once and give it a perfect and be able to go to the next step.

            BTW. I just noticed that whoever did the original Howling Fjord put a version number (and date) at the top of the file. I’ll be adding that to the rest of the files I’m going through. I’ll also note that in the above list so that Jame can see what the current version is.


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              Mai 7, 2009 @ 22:46

              Yeah, Troll did this withYeah, Troll did this with the guides he revamped for horde as well, and I’ve been doing it from now on, it’s really helpful and was a great idea!

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                Mai 8, 2009 @ 9:51

                Yea, I think I might takeYea, I think I might take that on! However the Last Modified timestamp of a file should already be enough really.

                // edit:
                –> Original guides written/designed by [Snowflake]
                –> Addon written by [?] on ?
                –> Last modified by [Skully0815] on 08.05.2009

                How do I know who originally wrote the addon guide file, and when?

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                  Mai 8, 2009 @ 10:17

                  The time of the originallyThe time of the originally writing, I don’t think you can really know, nor do I think it’s particularly important. The original coders are posted at the tops of [url=]this page[/url] and [url=]this page[/url].

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                    Mai 8, 2009 @ 11:02

                    Cheers. I should have reallyCheers. I should have really known that I guess :O 🙂

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    Mai 5, 2009 @ 10:55

    Need help with codeHey folks, having just encountered this bit in the guide I am just revising, I am not sure how to fix the problem.

    The code:

    T The Lady’s Necklace |QID|9175| |O| |T|
    A Journey to Undercity |QID|9180| |O| |PRE|The Lady’s Necklace| |T|

    The behaviour we [b]want this to have[/b] is:
    If [i]The Lady’s Necklace[/i] has been completed, take the follow up [i]Journey to Undercity[/i].

    However it is completely ignoring the second step, since we already turned in [i]The Lady’s Necklace[/i] and it doesn’t seem to determine that it [b]was[/b] completed. 🙁

    Any help?

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      Mai 5, 2009 @ 19:58

      This only works if TheThis only works if The Lady’s Necklace was turned in during the same guide, because it only checks if there are any steps in the guides completed. It can’t access your invisible list of completed quests that I really wish Bliz would make visible >_<

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        Mai 5, 2009 @ 23:08

        Well in that case it shouldWell in that case it should have worked since the two steps are just behind each other in the order that I quoted it in…
        Maybe the problem is that I am using the German client version. Is it checking for the exact quest name? Since these would obviously not match…

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          Mai 6, 2009 @ 0:03

          Hmmm, that could be theHmmm, that could be the problem, I’m not sure since I don’t have experience with other language clients, but it seems plausible.

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    Mai 8, 2009 @ 18:09

    Snowflake’s Ghostlands Guide (13-21)Finished revision and testing and awarded it’s first quality star. Great guide!

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    Mai 12, 2009 @ 13:46

    Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (21-31)As discussed with Jiyambi, I am taking on Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (21-31) for testing. I have done and will be doing revisions as I go along, as I see fit.

    On another note: Is it possible that not many people are still working on the guides? It seems as if quite a number of helpers have disappeared 🙁 I loved to see several posts here every day, and now it’s only ever my own posts I get to read here 😀 🙁

    Come on guys, give us a hand here! 😉

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      Mai 13, 2009 @ 1:32

      Hah, I’ve noticed this too.Hah, I’ve noticed this too. I do know that, at least on the Horde side, some of the later guides (60+) need little to no revisions, they are really high quality. But the 30-40 section needs a lot of work.

      I myself have been less active with this of late, due to RL and other WoW commitments, but once summer rolls around I should be back to my old activeness.

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      Mai 14, 2009 @ 18:37

      And I’m back for good now,And I’m back for good now, so expect a lot of progress on the alliance side very soon 🙂

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        Mai 14, 2009 @ 19:07

        Let’s seeWell, let’s see who wins the battle of getting all guides to Quality*** first 😆
        And I’m back to regular working days now, after having sat injured at home for a month. But I still hope to be able to contribute, though not as quickly as I was lately.

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          Mai 14, 2009 @ 22:44

          Haha, an epic battle indeed.Haha, an epic battle indeed. Also, glad you are no longer injured but sad that it might mean a little less activity from you. Oh well, gotta pay the bills!

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        Mai 14, 2009 @ 19:39

        I were actually beginningI were actually beginning wonder if you’d gone tired of WoW, and WoW-pro, and just ditched us all 😛

        Obviously not, so I’m glad you’re back!

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        Mai 14, 2009 @ 20:13

        *Pop*That loud pop you heard was me pulling my head out of my ass.

        I’ve been taking my mage through Borean Tundra over the last couple of days. I was around halfway through before I realized that I was using on old copy of the file. It won’t be receiving a second star on this pass. Fear not, I still have a warrior and a paladin to go through the zone so hopefully it will be in good shape by the time Jame gets there.


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    Mai 14, 2009 @ 20:31

    New versionsNew versions out!


    [*]NEW: Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide Dragonblight | JamesL85
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide Zangarmarsh | Arannar
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide Terokkar (Aldor) | Arannar
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Alliance Leveling Guide Terokkar (Scryer) | Arannar
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Alliance leveling GUide Borean Tundra | JamesL85
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Alliance leveling GUide Howling Fjord | JamesL85
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Alliance leveling GUide Grizzly Hills | JamesL85
    [*]MISC: Fixed the TOC. Addon will no longer appear as “out of date” | Jahwo/Jame[/list]


    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide Nagrand | Jiyambi
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide Howling Fjord | Jiyambi
    [*]REVAMP: Mannovan’s Undead Starter | Skully0815
    [*]REVAMP: Snowflake’s Ghostlands | Skully0815
    [*]REVAMP: Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (21-31) | Jiyambi
    [*]MISC: Fixed the TOC. Addon will no longer appear as “out of date” | Jahwo/Jame

    You can clear up the downloads from the table (Jahwo or Jiyambi, or whoever who knows how to do it and has time, please!)

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    Mai 14, 2009 @ 23:22

    Horde Borean TundraJust finished updating the Borean Tundra section.

    Unfortunately I got a little lazy towards the end and didn’t add a few coordinates that probably should have been added. The guide works fine as is, the descriptions are plenty to find the necessary quest mobs/flight points, but it really should have those coords. So, I can’t in good faith give this a star, it’s not perfect yet (even though it’s my own fault). But, then next person to edit it should have very little to do.

    The file can be downloaded [url=]here[/url].

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    Mai 24, 2009 @ 8:34

    Just leveled throughJust leveled through Zerinj’s and Snowflakes guides (1-12 Durotar & 13-21 Ghostlands) and asides from 1 or 2 very miinor spelling errors, they are both complete I think. I can fix the typo’s myself and re-upload it or make a note of them and pass them on if you’d rather?

    Let me know 🙂

    – Skumball

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    Mai 28, 2009 @ 2:57

    Horde guidesHow are the horde guides? Need any help testing them?

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      Mai 28, 2009 @ 3:50

      Any of the guides not markedAny of the guides not marked “Quality” are in need of testing/revising, and even those marked “Quality” can always use more testing. If there is someone signed up for one, though, you should wait and test a different one so we aren’t having editing collisions.

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    Mai 29, 2009 @ 0:53

    Snowflake Bloodelf Starter Guide changesHey,

    I have edited Snowflake’s BE starter guide and made the following changes: Changed typos and added short descriptions where necessary: sometimes the coords would mix up in my german client due to zone problems. So a short note where to find an npc or where to go next helps a lot!

    Also removed the “optional” from the first opt. quest circuit in snowflake’s guide. I did it with a pally and just dinged lvl 10 in time to go to the trainer when the guide sugested to do so. Without the circuit I would still have been lvl 9. Also you get a small bag which is always a good thing in the beginning if you can’t afford to buy one. 🙂

    Apart from that I just added two small notes for explorer achievement that are not covered by simply following the guide. It’s Elrendar Falls and the Azurecoast which is hard to find if you don’t know about it. I added them when you’re near the location anyway so it doesn’t interfere with the rest of the guide. 🙂

    Hope it helps to improve the guide. I’ve uploaded the new version here.

    The guide is very good. I made it to level 12 in about 3 hours and 14 minutes. 😀

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      Mai 29, 2009 @ 2:01

      Awesome, thanks so much forAwesome, thanks so much for the update! The achievement notes are a nice touch 🙂

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        Mai 29, 2009 @ 2:57

        I Never Thought of That…..That’s just something that I never considered, but a great idea. When questing in Northrend I’ve made it a point of making sure I have all of the “zones” in a zone to get the achievement before I head to the next zone. It would be EXTREMELY easy to add that into the guide. I’ll keep that in mind as I’m revising…..Nice touch!!!!


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          Mai 29, 2009 @ 19:38

          Thank you. Glad I couldThank you. 😀 Glad I could help.

          As I posted before I only added those zones that were not covered by simply doing all the quests in the guide. Otherwise it would be way too much. 🙂 But a few hints here and there don’t hurt. 😀

          I hope someone else will test the guide again though. 🙂 I just tried to load it and clicked through all the steps once. It seemed to work okay but you never know. 😉

          I haven’t decided which guide to use next but will have a look at the other guides next week when I start the next session of speed leveling. 😀 [url=]I’m blogging about it like Holyjame and Mokrana but it’s in german.[/url] 😉 So I don’t know if any of you understand it. Got some pictures in there as well so maybe you want to check it out anyway. 🙂

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            Mai 29, 2009 @ 23:58

            Hah, nope can’t understandHah, nope can’t understand it but I looked at it anyways 😉 Blogging is fun!

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              Mai 30, 2009 @ 10:51

              Oh yes it is. Don’t know ifOh yes it is. 😀 Don’t know if someone I know is gonna read it though. Most of them don’t play at all. 😛

              Anyway, I guess I’ll try SilverKnights Silverpine Guide next. I’m 13 already (pally quest) but I guess that won’t hurt. 😀

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    Mai 30, 2009 @ 22:59

    Not a contributor but…There are a couple typos in the Grizzly Hills guide, in the section dealing with Dun’Argol. One that I noticed in particular was where you’re supposed to take stairs to the “southest”. I couldn’t figure out at first if that was east or west. Turns out it’s west. 🙂

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      Mai 31, 2009 @ 18:22

      FixedThanks for the comment. I’ve fixed the 2 places where it was wrong and uploaded.


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    Juin 3, 2009 @ 18:07

    Snowflake’s Draenei Starter (1-12)Hi, long time fan of this site. Figured I might as well start giving something back since I make good use of these guides. I played through Snowflake’s Draenei Starting Guide and made some improvements and corrections where I could. Uploaded the file here:

    Going to tackle the Bloodmyst one next.

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    Juin 4, 2009 @ 19:02

    Multi-part quest namesI just uploaded a large set of fixes to the Alliance guides (almost every one of them up to level 55). Most of the changes were obvious things, like adding item tags to hearthstone steps etc.

    But one thing that surprised me was the number of quests that had ” (part 1)” instead of ” (Part 1)”. TourGuide doesn’t recognize the string unless it’s got a capital “P” for part. It also doesn’t recognize other text, such as “follow-up”, as a multi-part quest. Was this working in a previous version of TourGuide, or is it just that I’m the only person it irritates?

    Anyway, if this isn’t something generally useful I can back out those changes and just publish the other revisions.

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      Juin 4, 2009 @ 22:03

      I’m fairly certain it’sI’m fairly certain it’s always had to be capitalized.

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    Juin 4, 2009 @ 19:11

    Alliance Death Knight guideI know the coords don’t work right in the starter land, but since QuestHelper is able to put points on the map then TourGuide will eventually get it all together. So I uploaded my draft of the DK guide. It isn’t complete, since I generally run off to Outland before hitting the end of the text guide, but it’s better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

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    Juin 5, 2009 @ 18:14

    i will be testing thei will be testing the draenei start guide if noone else is at the job

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    Juin 5, 2009 @ 23:33

    i have tested and revised snowflakes draenei starter guidehi, i have tested and revised snowflakes draenei starter guide and uploaded it to
    More then happy to help out! 🙂

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      Juin 7, 2009 @ 8:28

      Thanks for the hard work!Thanks for the hard work!

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    Juin 7, 2009 @ 8:27

    Horde Dragonblight Revamp CompleteI have completed and uploaded the revamped Horde Dragonblight file, [url=]here[/url]. There were only a few mistakes, and I’m happy to award the guide it’s first quality star.

    On to Grizzly Hills!

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    Juin 7, 2009 @ 10:45

    I was wondering why we doI was wondering why we do use Manovan’s Undead Leveling Guide (1-13), but not his Night Elf Leveling Guide (1-13)with the Tour Guide add-on? I mean Taralom’s Night Elf 1-12 guide isn’t bad, but I think Manovan’s Night Elf guide is a lot better.
    Just a thought. 🙂

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      Juin 7, 2009 @ 11:16

      Probably just hasn’t beenProbably just hasn’t been coded yet. I’ll add it to the list above.

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    Juin 8, 2009 @ 3:00

    Grizzly HillsI’ve uploaded a new file for Alliance – Grizzly Hills. The Explore Achievement is taken care of by doing the normal quests, but I fixed a couple of problems that were pointed out and another couple that I found. I gave it a second star.


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    Juin 8, 2009 @ 14:26

    hey,i can start coding thehey,i can start coding the Manovan’s Night Elf Guide (1-13) if you want to. posting this so there won’t be any conflict with people doing the same thing

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    Juin 8, 2009 @ 21:32

    Jame’s alliance leveling guides.Hello wow-pro members.
    Its been a long and busy time here…

    Im back in town and playing a new alliance toon up on a new server.
    Im following the alliance guides:

    Snoflakes draenei 1-12
    (Cant remember who made the bloodmyst guide) 12-20
    Bostons guide from 20-30
    And then Jame’s guides.

    Right now im lvl 31 and at the end of Bostons guide.

    Just wanted to let you know im testing Jame’s ally guides 😉

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    Juin 12, 2009 @ 11:36

    Im leveling my warlockHello
    Im leveling my warlock through Outlands and i’m going to test:

    1) Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Terokkar Forest
    2) Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Nagrand

    I’m now in the middle of Terokkar quests, until now no errors etc.

    PS. I forgot to write down few errors from Zangarmarsh part ( but it was only wrong or not correct coordinations). As for Hellfire Peninsula i havent noticed any errors.


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      Juin 13, 2009 @ 18:38

      So I have completed TerokkarSo I have completed Terokkar Forest part of the guide, I havent seen any errors. Although some quests should have some descriptions, because newbies could have been a little confused.

      As for Nagrand part im in he middle of a guide, so far no errors.

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    Juin 14, 2009 @ 21:37

    Alliance DragonblightI uploaded a new Alliance Dragonblight section. I made a couple more changes and added in steps to get the Exploration Achievement.


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      Juin 16, 2009 @ 0:00

      James, you are aJames, you are a hard-working and awesome person. Thank you!

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        Juin 16, 2009 @ 15:06

        That’s Funny!!!When my wife comes downstairs and I’m playing Warcraft (which is…..Pretty much as much time as I can), she asks me what I’m doing. I always say that I’m working.

        If I give you her cell number, would you call her and tell her that I truly am working???? LOL


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    Juin 17, 2009 @ 3:52

    I’ve decided to make theI’ve decided to make the alliance DK guide but i will need some to add in the picture to the section, i had some trouble with that.

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      Juin 17, 2009 @ 5:03

      FixedI’ve taken care of that for you.


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    Juin 22, 2009 @ 18:45

    Small fixThe file 002_54_56_Jame_Ungoro_Crater.lua has the name of the zone mis-capitalized in the registration line. This causes TourGuide to use the current zone to set waypoints instead of the Un’Goro Crater zone. The corrected registration line (first line of the file) is

    TourGuide:RegisterGuide(“[WoW-Pro | Jame’s 50-60] Un’Goro Crater (54-56)”, “[WoW-Pro | Jame’s 50-60] Winterspring (56-56)”, “Alliance”, function()

    The only change is capitalizing “Un’Goro Crater” instead of “Un’goro Crater”.


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      Juin 22, 2009 @ 23:49

      Thanks for the info! Is thisThanks for the info! Is this Horde or Alliance?

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        Juin 23, 2009 @ 2:03

        Sorry, this is in theSorry, this is in the alliance guides. I just took a quick look at the horde guides and it seems to already be correct there.

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          Juin 23, 2009 @ 2:38

          That’s because I coded them!That’s because I coded them! Bwahahaha! 🙂

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    Juin 25, 2009 @ 4:11

    Alliance Howling FjordI just uploaded the latest version. It includes some small fixes and also adds the waypoints for the Exploration Achievement.


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    Juin 25, 2009 @ 7:52

    Alliance Hellfire PeninsulaJust uploaded a revised draft of the Alliance Hellfire guide. As usual, my goal was to run through the whole land without having to check off any objective or open my bags to complete a quest. The changes to the guide were mostly to add item buttons and auto-complete tags to the existing quests.

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      Juin 25, 2009 @ 9:18

      Heh, I like that goal. IHeh, I like that goal. I would add to it – without ever having to read the text to know where to go next. I try to make sure there is an arrow for every step except some sell/repair steps, including flight point and innkeeper steps.

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    Juil 2, 2009 @ 23:01

    Broken Links…The guides that are linked to (ie. Boston’s Leveling Guide (20-30)) aske for a login. Is there a place to get these updated .luas that doesn’t require special access? Thanks!

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      Juil 7, 2009 @ 8:07

      It’s not supposed to requireIt’s not supposed to require a login. If I can’t get it sorted, I’ll post them somewhere else. Sorry about that.

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        Juil 8, 2009 @ 5:36

        Okay, the links should beOkay, the links should be corrected now to not require a login.

        They are all located under [url][/url]

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    Juil 7, 2009 @ 3:51

    Just a Thought…..Jiyambi, you made the comment about all the Achievements that you can get in the guide would be great, right?

    I just uploaded the newest version of Alliance Borean Tundra, including all the points you need for the Exploration Achievement.

    But I have been thinking……I know, scary.

    What if I add the reading and “squirrel,” fishing, and pest stuff into those. Is that overkill? I can see both sides of it and I’m just curious. If you think it’s worthwhile, I can get in touch with Tekkub and see if there’s an event that’s fired within WoW that can have an automated step in TourGuide. Again, is that worthwhile, or just overkill?

    My biggest fear is that I only have one more toon to go through and I’d need to do a “S.W.A.G” swing at the LUA before I went through with my last toon.

    Let me know……


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      Juil 7, 2009 @ 6:17

      Jame had this exact questionJame had this exact question on his blog back when Wrath was coming out. I think in the end he decided not to have all these little achievements.

      I think it would bog down the guide, because some people don’t care about achievements. For the exploratory ones, well, it’s a matter of going to one more area on the map for the most part, especially in the Northrend zones. It’s something that’s small and almost completely covered by the guide already. But I think it’s best to leave the other achievements out.

      Still, it would be good to hear from others about this. Any one else have a comment/opinion?

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        Juil 7, 2009 @ 7:16

        I’m mixed with this… MaybeI’m mixed with this… Maybe just add them as you go past them while in the guides? I know in the Howling Fjord guide or the Horde version at least, there’s a note about the Friend or Fowl achi.

        But I can also see how they aren’t important to the overall ‘Leveling Guide’ which is what these are. If they were to be included, I would perhaps include them as optional bonuses as you pass them, but not an actual required step in the guide, and nothing to go out of your way to do specially.

        – Skum

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          Juil 7, 2009 @ 15:29

          That’s a Good Idea…..I’ll just add them as a note when you’re in the area and call it good.


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    Juil 9, 2009 @ 15:34

    downloading DKI’m having trouble downloading the half-finished DK Alliance Guide I clicked download then save then I saved to the Jame’s Alliance add-on leveling guide folder in the addon folder but when I restared Warcraft I could not find the guide in the list of guides giving you you in the interface –> addon section of the in-game main menu. please help if you can.

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      Juil 9, 2009 @ 21:29

      Editing XMLThere’s a file that needs to be edited so that it shows up in the Guide list. I’m at work and can’t remember what it is. It looks like Jiyambi is working an an update for us.


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        Juil 9, 2009 @ 21:32

        It’s calledIt’s called “guides.xml”

        But yes, when I release an update it should work since I will be updating that file.

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    Juil 9, 2009 @ 18:28

    Alliance Death Knightby the looks of it the Death Knight AddOn Guide looks great, other than the fact that I can’t seem to get it to work. so perhaps to resolve the situation you should put it up with the rest of the finished downloads.

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      Juil 9, 2009 @ 19:37

      Thanks, I just gotThanks, I just got permissions from Jame to do a version update for the addon. This weekend I’m going to make sure everything works and upload new versions for both Horde and Alliance.

      Thanks for the hard work everyone!

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    Juil 12, 2009 @ 22:44

    Alliance Guide UpdatesHi folks.

    I’m working on compiling a new addon version. Unfortunately, some of the guide updates linked above are not functioning properly. Specifically, links from Boston’s 20-30 to Jame’s 50-60, on the Alliance side. The user who uses needs to either re-upload or fix the links if you want them included in the update. Sorry about that!

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      Juil 13, 2009 @ 23:51

      I had the same problemI had the same problem trying to download the morrisland files. If you go to, they’re all located there.

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    Juil 13, 2009 @ 3:36

    I feel obligated to pointI feel obligated to point out that the optional Silithus guide(horde) still directs you to itself, instead of Hellfire Peninsula, when the guide is finished.

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      Juil 13, 2009 @ 5:20

      Thanks Gethe! I think IThanks Gethe! I think I fixed that at some point but forgot to upload it. I’ll do a quick fix in a bit.

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    Juil 19, 2009 @ 23:27

    Error in TourGuideEdit: I managed to solve the problem.

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    Août 11, 2009 @ 13:38

    revising azuremyst.hey guys, I’m finally back and love to see that my guide made it into your shiny, new (for me at last) addon.

    testing the addon with my druid I found some flaws:

    snoflakes azuremyst guide is missing some draenei only quest flags

    the quests are:
    You Survived!
    Medicinal Purpose
    An Alternative Alternative

    the problem is that then the notes have to be overhauled for draenei and non-draenei also.

    I won’t edit that myself because it feels too complicated and I’m not that into the code yet. Instead I’ll check my guide portion of the addon now 🙂

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    Août 13, 2009 @ 5:21

    Alliance Blade’s Edge Mountains revisedI’m hoping it works. I think I have a 70 that can go back and go through it, but if anyone else could give it a run I’d appreciate it. Youcan dowload it through the link in the list above, or from [url=]here[/url]. Please place this in the appropriate addon folder. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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    Août 14, 2009 @ 13:53

    another azuremyst issue isanother azuremyst issue is that cowlen is in the zone “the veiled sea”, so tourguide says “No zone provided, using current zone” and directs you in the wrong directon

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    Sep 1, 2009 @ 19:57

    Transcribed Blade’s Edge guide for addon I’ve transcribed Jame’s horde guide for Blade’s Edge into tourguide. The file can be found here

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      Sep 2, 2009 @ 1:07

      Excellent! I will test itExcellent! I will test it out soon on my main, she’s just finishing up her loremaster of kalimdor and eastern kingdoms before moving on to Blade’s Edge.

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    Sep 1, 2009 @ 20:32

    Snowflake’s Draenai GuideI will be testing Snowflake’s Draenai Guide with a warrior. If I discover any problems, where should I report them to?

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      Sep 2, 2009 @ 1:07

      You can post them here.You can post them here.

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    Sep 8, 2009 @ 10:13

    your doing Loremaster? i amyour doing Loremaster? i am 640/685 in kalimdor and i have no idea where the quests are.

    oops meant to be a reply to jiyambi’s comment below

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      Sep 8, 2009 @ 20:32

      Sounds like you are on theSounds like you are on the Alliance side.

      Kalimdor was super hard for me as well, though I’m Horde side. Some quests you may have missed:
      [list][*]The first turn ins for the salve creation quests in Felwood
      [*]Instance quests. My last quest was the “Zapper Fuel” follow up, that comes from Ratchet and takes you to Sunken Temple and back. Most Kalimdor instances count, and some Eastern Kingdoms ones have follow ups in Kalimdor.
      [*]Check WoWhead for quests which come from dropped items. I don’t know which ones these are for Alliance, but Horde had a lot. All those sea monster ones in Darkshore count, I beleive.
      [*]Make sure you’ve done the baby zone quests for night elves and draenei.
      [*]Check the Wowhead achievement for hints, it helped me a ton.[/list]

      And good luck! I am still working on the Eastern Kingdoms one, but I have lots of instance quests to do over there so I think I’ll be fine.

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        Sep 9, 2009 @ 6:11

        Alliance!?!? Never!! For theAlliance!?!? Never!! For the Horde!!! (the ally one is 700)
        Anyway, thanks for the advice, but everywhere else said basically the same thing about this ach.

        The worst part about this ach is not knowing what quests you have not done, it’s horrible, and is seems like the only thing i can do is run around in each zone, one by one, looking for a “!” while grinding mobs that have a chance at droping an item. Is this what you did? Is there an easier way?

        Blizz making there finished quest list visible would make the ach [b]much[/b] easier, I wish they would…

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          Sep 9, 2009 @ 7:02

          Agreed, it’s so annoying notAgreed, it’s so annoying not to know what quests you’ve done. Make sure you’ve gotten all the drop quests in the barrens, that was super helpful for me. There’s four hunting ones, and also the Alliance Outriders (that’s two quests).

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    Sep 15, 2009 @ 16:04

    I’ve tested Snowflake’s 1-12I’ve tested Snowflake’s 1-12 Draenei Guide, and Sven’s 12-20 Bloodmyst Isle Guide!

    Did find the following errors:
    67% through Snowflake’s Guide for the quest “All that Remains”, there was a waypoint that leaded to Exodar, which should be leading to the NPC “Cowlen”, in the very south of Azyrmyst Isle, on a bridge.

    [b]So far, I’m level 20 with 9 hours and 35 min /played![/b]
    I will be posting more, along when I level up. So next step, Boston’s 20-30 Guide :)!

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    Sep 18, 2009 @ 9:51

    Horde Guide – 51-66In Azshara, Delivery to Archmage Xylem, it doesn’t tell you that to get to him you need to talk to Sanath Lim-Yo to teleport up to where he is. That might be something useful to add as it’s a tad confusing if you haven’t already tried Sanath before.

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    Sep 23, 2009 @ 17:45

    Hellfire peninsula has wrongHellfire peninsula has wrong coordinates for the signals in the valley next to falcon watch… the coords for the south beacon are XX,36 instead of XX,30 or something, i’d have to look it up my self. it’s a minor mistake but however it cost me some flying around.

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    Oct 8, 2009 @ 16:54

    Hi, i just wanted to askHi, i just wanted to ask what happened to my Tauren guide… the new one included in the zip doesn’t in clude class quests or hearthstone and has some flaws here and there… not to say it’s bad, but it’s lacking some of the work i put into the old one and it’s annoying that the effort i put in that just disappeared.

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      Oct 8, 2009 @ 21:42

      Hmm, I didn’t edit or changeHmm, I didn’t edit or change the Tauren guide at all so it must have happened before I did the last update of the addon. If you have the original files I can probably update the addon to include them.

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    Oct 14, 2009 @ 18:29

    For those of you that don’tFor those of you that don’t know, Blizzard has added the ability to see your completed quests in 3.3
    [quote]You can now query for a list of completed quests with “QueryQuestsCompleted()” then wait for the “QUEST_QUERY_COMPLETE” event, and call “GetQuestsCompleted()”.[/quote][url=]Patch Notes[/url]

    Tekkub has already added this to TourGuide in his latest build.

    This will make it MUCH easier to get Loremaster, among other things, though i already have Kalimdor(pita) and Eastern Kingdoms

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      Oct 15, 2009 @ 4:02

      SO MUCH WIN.

      I am sortaSO MUCH WIN.

      I am sorta annoyed I already completed Loremaster now >_<

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        Oct 15, 2009 @ 7:06

        yeah all i have left to doyeah all i have left to do is Netherstorm and blades edge. wish i had this for kalimdor T_T

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          Oct 15, 2009 @ 12:40

          Blade’s Edge can be a painBlade’s Edge can be a pain in the butt, I’ll warn you ahead of time. I had to do a bunch of the Ogri’La group quests that required Apexis shards. Ugh. Only other bad one in Outland was Nagrand, the rest were all really easy there.

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      Oct 22, 2009 @ 16:41

      Holy smokes, that’s awesome!Holy smokes, that’s awesome!

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    Oct 15, 2009 @ 10:44

    Storm Peaks GuideI wrote a guide for The Storm Peaks (Horde), if I did this right it can be found for testing here. Anyone wanting to do an Alliance guide is welcome to use anything I have written that is for both Factions.


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      Oct 15, 2009 @ 16:51

      Thanks for the hard work!Thanks for the hard work!

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    Oct 27, 2009 @ 12:33

    I am currently working onI am currently working on the Blades Edge(horde) guide, but I am going to write it to be compatable with the 3.3 version of TourGuide which means that it will not work properly until the patch. This is due to the new quest history api that will be provided post 3.3 and the changes in the way TourGuide recognizes quests in response.

    After Blades Edge I will then start on the other horde guides and release them when they are all done or the patch comes out(whichever comes first).

    For those that want to know; every step that is related to a quest MUST have a QID tag.

    N Thunderlord Clan Drum|Q|Thunderlord Clan Artifacts|QO|Thunderlord Clan Drum: 1/1|N|To the southwest, inside the hut. (40.17,58.34)|
    [/code]needs to be changed to:
    N Thunderlord Clan Drum|QID|10524|QO|Thunderlord Clan Drum: 1/1|N|To the southwest, inside the hut. (40.17,58.34)|

    I do not intend to do the alliance side at the moment so if someone would like to do that it would be great.

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      Oct 27, 2009 @ 16:00

      Thanks for the info. I’veThanks for the info. I’ve just finished a couple of new guides and will start the conversions on them to be posted after 3.3. I understand your example, but are lines like this one still correct.

      K Kill more Elementals |N|Keep killing the Elementals.| |L|38323 3|

      I’m guessing it is, since this is really just a note that auto-completes, But I thought I’d ask before I have to do things twice.

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        Oct 28, 2009 @ 9:49

        Yeah that line should beYeah that line should be fine since it doesn’t actually complete a quest objective.

        edit: After some testing on the ptr I’ve realized that EVERY step must have a QID. This is mostly for the benefit of someone who starts the guide late because in the new version, TourGuide will get a list of competed quests and any steps that have a completed QID will be checked off.

        So, theoretically, if someone with Loremaster would start the guide without having done it before, it would automatically be completely finished because the addon knows he/she already did those quests.

        If a step does not reference any quest(ex. hearth steps) use the QID of the next turn-in. If a step does reference a quest like scoots example above, use the QID for that quest.

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          Oct 28, 2009 @ 22:08

          Cool, that actually makesCool, that actually makes sense. I’m starting on the Alliance guides, shouldn’t take to long. If anyone wants to help with them, let me know, and could you start in Northrend, I’ve started at the beginning. I’ll post my progress to reduce the confusion.

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    Oct 28, 2009 @ 12:19

    New GuidesI’ve completed new guides for Zul’Drak (both Alliance and Horde). I need some testers please. You can download them [url=]here[/url]. In the zipped folder are both of the Zul’Drak guides and my Storm Peaks guide, as well as the appropriate XML files to make them work. Look at the Read Me file for installation instructions. Thanks to all of the people who have already downloaded my Storm Peaks guide. Hope you find it useful. You can send me a PM for feedback.


    Found a problem in my post from yesterday. Fixed them and the link is now to the corrected files. If you downloaded it on Oct. 27, get the new one in order for everything to work properly.

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    Oct 31, 2009 @ 0:42

    Sholazar Basin GuideFinished my [url=]Sholazar Basin[/url] guide. It’s in the package with all the others. I’ve got some other stuff I’m working right now, so I’m putting Icecrown (Horde) on hold. Hopefully I’ll get it done by the time 3.3 is released.

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    Nov 4, 2009 @ 20:30

    Work in progress… or is it?Hey guys,

    I’m back on WoW, now that my PC is working again after 4 very long months. Also its getting cold outside, so thats another good reason for wow 😉

    I was surprised to notice that progress here with the addons has stagnated 😮

    Nobody on it anymore? 🙁


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    Nov 7, 2009 @ 6:26

    Guide UpdatesI finally got a new character high enough to test my Storm Peaks guide (Horde) and made some revisions. Its in the package with my guides for Zul’Drak (Alliance and Horde) and Sholazar Basin (Alliance and Horde). I have deleted all of the older files, so any links below this comment will not work anymore. [url=]Here is the new link.[/url] Thanks for downloading my guides, hope they are helping. My newest character is almost to Outland, so it will be a little while before I do any more updates, unless anyone finds any problems and tells me about them. I’m also working on an Icecrown (Horde) guide, a guide for Hunter Pets, and updating the Alliance guides for 3.3 (I’ve gotten through the 20s).

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    Nov 8, 2009 @ 0:32

    I have compiled Tekkub’sI have compiled Tekkub’s most recent 3.3 beta if anyone wants to try it out.


    I will do what I can to keep this updated.

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    Nov 9, 2009 @ 21:04

    Can anyone create a DailiesCan anyone create a Dailies guide for this add-on? Maybe where you could select gold or what faction you are trying to raise and it would lead you to the proper daily quests and help you finish them as quickly as possible? And yes I am trying to afford my epic flyer. 🙂

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      Nov 11, 2009 @ 3:47

      I know it’s a “paper” guide,I know it’s a “paper” guide, but check out [url=]eric’s Gold making Guide[/url] if you are trying to get your epic flyer. There’s not much that his guide doesn’t cover. Good luck!

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    Nov 11, 2009 @ 12:29

    I’ve completed the BladesI’ve completed the Blades Edge(horde) guide and incorporated scoots Northrend guides into the Horde pack. Now starting on converting the horde guide to 3.3. I think scoot asked me to start in Outland so i guess ill start there before getting to Northrend then Old World.

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    Nov 11, 2009 @ 16:22

    Start wherever you want onStart wherever you want on the Horde guides. I’m working on the Alliance ones, since you said you didn’t have any plans to do them yet. I’ve gotten through the 20s.

    By the way Gethe, I’ve got my guides updated already I’ll send you a link later, when I get a chance to upload them.


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    Déc 8, 2009 @ 21:20

    AddOn Update!!![url=]Download[/url]
    Please be sure to uninstall the old WoW-Pro addon and TourGuide before useing the new version.

    Change Log:

    [*]Updated toc for 3.3

    [*]Integrated TourGuide into addon

    [*]Modified TourGuide to automaticly open the appropriate guide for a new character(TourGuide already did this, but now it works for our

    [*]Combined the Alliance and Horde guides into one addon, only those applicable to your faction will be loaded.

    [*]Updated all guides with QID tags (Alliance updated by scoot2112)

    [*]Made the guide names in-game shorter to allow them to fit better in the in-game guide list.

    new format:
    [WoW-Pro|Author] Zone (zone range)

    [WoW-Pro|Jame] Stonetalon Mountains (21-22)

    If the authors name starts with an “n” there needs to be a space before it. (“|n” means create a new line)

    [*]other minor OCD changes.
    [*]Mount steps moved and updated for 3.2

    [*]Modified the circuits in the Plaguelands to make use of the new fight points at The Bulwark(Horde) and Thondroril River(Both)


    [*]Moved the transitions in Hosho’s Barrens to the end of the Tauren and Orc/Troll guides.

    [*]Split some guides that had alot of |Z| tags

    [*]Incorporated all optional quest circuits into the core guide(except Hellfire at 58, it’s still optional)
    [*]Updated Hellfire Peninsula guides to use the portals to Blasted Lands added in 3.2

    [*]Added step to Hellfire Peninsula guides to encourage getting a flying mount at 60

    [*]Added Blade’s Edge Mountains by Gethe

    [*]Added Zul’Drak, Sholazar Basin, and The Storm Peaks by Scoot2112
    [b]Death Knight:[/b]
    [*]Removed talents from DK guides as they do not work any more.

    [*]Split guide into different zones

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      Déc 10, 2009 @ 11:00

      Thanks, good job!

      IsThanks, good job!

      Is Lightheaded still needed for coordnates? Maybe it would be possible the new Blizzard quest stuff instead?

      Also, there’s a bug in the Ghostlands guide – The turn-in for the quest “Shadowpine Weaponry” is missing from the guide.

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        Déc 11, 2009 @ 0:01

        Yes, Lightheaded is stillYes, Lightheaded is still needed, but I will be looking in to using the built in quest POIs.

        thanks for the report.

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      Déc 12, 2009 @ 11:37

      Gethe, you freaking rock myGethe, you freaking rock my socks. Jame and I have been meaning to do something like this for some time now and haven’t got around to it due to various circumstances. We are planning to meet this weekend or sometime in the next week, and we’ll get this compilation loaded onto the site proper. Thanks again for the hard work, everyone!

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        Déc 12, 2009 @ 16:07

        Really good work and thanks Gethe and everybodyJiyambi is right, you rock guys. The only thing that hurt si that I can’t help you because I’m busy with my band and everything else. I’d like it very to give a hand. Thanks all guys and above all thanks Jame for this site.

        Take Care all

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      Déc 13, 2009 @ 16:27

      That’s freaking awesome.That’s freaking awesome. Thank you, you just took a load off our shoulders 🙂

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      Déc 14, 2009 @ 10:55

      I hate you!*goes back to the french localization and works on all guides one by one, comparing previous and new ones to reflect the changes on the french version*

      I knew it was a bad idea to make the translation.. I knew!

      (Excellent work, and don’t believe what I wrote just before :))

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        Déc 21, 2009 @ 12:00

        C’est la vie!C’est la vie! :p

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    Déc 14, 2009 @ 5:16

    Horde Icecrown guide comingHorde Icecrown guide coming soon. I’m testing it right now and hope to be done by the end of the week. Good job Gethe :jawdrop:, I didn’t know you were doing all that.

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      Déc 14, 2009 @ 20:50

      To be honest, niether did ITo be honest, niether did I when i started. =/

      When I looked at some of the guides I saw that some of the were outdated, didn’t make sense, or just buged me, so I changed them and just hoped that it would make an overall better guide and not step on to many toes.

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      Déc 21, 2009 @ 12:30

      Really looking forward toReally looking forward to that guide btw 😉

      Oh and thanks again Gethe for this amazing update. I’ll make an update post in the coming 10 days to list all the great changes you made.

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    Déc 15, 2009 @ 8:53

    Addon questionsI’ve finished testing my Icecrown (Horde) guide, but I have a couple of questions before I post it. 😕

    Has anyone figured out how to make the daily quests stay checked off when you log out or reload the UI, or is this simply impossible now? Not a big issue, but it is a pain.

    Is there any reason this line shouldn’t auto-complete?

    [code]F Shadow Vault |QID|13168| |N|Fly back to the Shadow Vault. (43,26)|[/code]

    It wouldn’t auto-complete using the Flight Path or flying in on my mount. I’ve also tried it without the QID and using (43.00,26.00) as coordinates, no luck.

    I hope someone out there has some answers, because I’m stuck.

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      Déc 15, 2009 @ 16:21

      Daily quests work the sameDaily quests work the same as any other quest with the exception that they reset at 3am(on my server). So like all other quests, if you do them they should stay checked regardless until the reset(servers are down atm unable to varify). We can actually take advantage of this and use the leveling guides (most of which include dailys) as daily guides after 80 (e.g. Grizzly Hills).

      And on this note it [b]would not[/b] be advisable to use the QID of a daily for any step not related to that daily.

      I think that area is called “[b]The[/b] Shadow Vault” the name has to be [i]exactly[/i] as spelled on your minimap.

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        Déc 15, 2009 @ 19:37

        /facepalmYea, I woke up today with the solution to The Shadow Vault question (literally the first thing I thought of). That’s what I get for testing at 3 am (/facepalm again), but I really wanted to finish.

        As for the Dailies, it was just annoying to have to check them off manually while testing the guide and resetting my UI to make sure the corrections worked. It is cool that they reset, though.

        Anyway, I’ll be posting later today.

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    Déc 16, 2009 @ 5:03

    Icecrown Guide (Horde)Icecrown (Horde) is done and you can [url=]Download Here[/url].

    That’s all for Northrend except for The Storm Peaks for Alliance (and I don’t have an Alliance character anywhere near that level),so I’ll leave that for someone else.

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    Déc 21, 2009 @ 21:22

    Improved Horde Hellfire PeninsulaI have tested Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide – Hellfire Peninsula and made adjustments. Now it works quite well and is linked above. Or you get it here:

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    Déc 24, 2009 @ 8:39

    Hey everyone,

    when testingHey everyone,

    when testing and revising the guides I often see steps like

    F Swamprat Post|QID|9775|


    R Swamprat Post|QID|9774|N|(84.5, 55.1)|

    which of course don’t work correctly due to the QID part. Is this for any special reason that the QIDs were inserted in the fly, run or use hearthstone etc. steps? Because as I said they only seem to make things worse.

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      Déc 24, 2009 @ 14:31

      About QIDsIn patch 3.3 Blizz added the ability to query the server for a list of your completed quests. We use this data along with QID tags to automatically check off any steps that have a QID associated with a completed quest. It was my intention that if you had completed all of the quests in a guide, but for what ever reason it did not show this in-game, you should be able to go into the guide and not have to check off anything to get to the next guide.

      I did not observe any issues associated with this feature during my testing on the ptr and apologize for any inconvenience it may have caused. I have tried looking through the code, but due to unfamiliarity with the code and general lack of coding knowledge I have been unable to find a cause much less a fix. In the mean time, I have already started going through the guides to remove the offending QIDs.

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        Déc 25, 2009 @ 4:37

        Problem Solved?I’ve noticed the same problem and I think I’ve found a solution. The easiest one is to take out the QID on all traveling and Flight Point steps, but if you use the QID for the next quest you have to accept instead of any quest you have completed it seems to work fine. I think this is because once a quest is considered complete, TourGuide ignores any steps with the same QID that are before the Turn-in step.

        I have edited the Northrend guides for the Horde up to Grizzly Hills (that’s where I was leveling). I also noticed that steps other than Notes (B,U,L, etc.) don’t always show up, so I have turned them into Notes (Kill steps seem to be fine). Gethe, I hope you haven’t done these yet, but you can [url=]Download them here.[/url]

        I’m off of WoW for the Holidays (traveling), but I do have computer access and will be working on some new guides for release at the first of the year.

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          Déc 25, 2009 @ 10:54

          For nowWell for now I have deleted the QIDs in the steps that messed it up. So how should we go about it now? Remove the QIDs or use the QID of the next Q that needs to be accepted or how again was that?

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    Jan 2, 2010 @ 18:19

    NagrandI’ve updated the horde Nagrand guide. It is linked above and [url=]here[/url].

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      Jan 3, 2010 @ 11:55

      ZangarmarshJust saw I had made a few changes to the Zangarmarsh file as well as I went through it. Uploaded it and linked it above.

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    Jan 4, 2010 @ 7:59

    Daily Quests in TourGuideI have seen some comments asking for daily quests in TourGuide style, so I wrote these guides for the Northrend Daily Quests while I was bored over the Holidays and didn’t have access to WoW. [url=]You can Download them here.[/url]

    They are divided into 2 categories: Factions and Zones, so you can do your dailies however you want.

    I have not done the Argent Tournament yet, but I am trying to work out a way to make it work (We’ll see what happens). Other than that I think I got most of them. I did ignore the PVP daily quest in Icecrown and [color=#009900]Riding the Red Rocket[/color] in Grizzly Hills as wastes of time, but you can figure out how to work them into your rotation if you must do them. I also didn’t include any of the Dalaran dailies (Cooking, Fishing, etc.). They are easy enough to do anyway.

    Hope the New Year is treating everyone well so far and that you get some use out of these guides.

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      Jan 4, 2010 @ 20:47

      Good effort!Good effort! Haven’t tested them, as I’m only level 70 so far, but the idea is grand! Thanks for the effort already!

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      Jan 5, 2010 @ 1:33

      if the guides are the sameif the guides are the same for both horde and alliance you can use “Both” in the first line where you would put the faction so you’d only need one guide.

      I’ll add a Neutral folder to the addon for this purpose in the next update.

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        Jan 5, 2010 @ 7:48

        Yea I figured that out afterYea I figured that out after I had made copies and put them in both folders, but no big deal it was just mostly cut and paste anyway.

        On another note, I have run through the Zul’Drak guide again and revised a few things (I forgot all of the Flight Paths, so I added them too). I noticed though, when I got to the end the Sholazar Basin (Horde) guide didn’t auto-load and wasn’t in the guide list. After looking into it I found that it was omitted from the Guides.XML file. I corrected this and am now running through SB to tweek that guide. I will upload the updated guides and .XML files by the end of the week, probably. 🙂

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    Jan 6, 2010 @ 15:12

    AddOn Update!!![url=]Download[/url]

    Change Log:

    [list][*]Completed TourGuide integration!
    [list=a][*]TG and WoW-Pro will no longer interfere with each other if used together. (Though, why whould you do that?)

    [*]For guides that are not included in this download you will have to edit the first line:





    [*]Quest POIs are now operational!!
    [list=a][*]On every Complete, Turn-in, and |QO| step it will use Blizzard’s built in POIs and direct you towards it.

    [*]Added the |NOPOI| tag because sometimes Blizz’s don’t quite cut it.

    [*]If you use the POIs outside of the guides zone you need to use |Z|one tags

    [*]Added a Neutral folder
    [list=a][*]You can use this for dailys guides and other things that are faction independant.

    [*]When writeing a guide use “Both” as the faction and put it in this folder.

    [*]I have added Scoots Dailys guides to this folder to get us started.
    [list=a][*]Added a missing turn-in for the Ghostlands guide
    [list=a][*]Corrected some QIDs

    [*]Added some quests and tweaks to Nagrand and a note for those who want Loremaster.
    [list=a][*]Howling Fjord tweaks

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      Jan 6, 2010 @ 18:55

      Addon ErrorJust tried the new download and I got this error message:

      [code]Date: 2010-01-06 12:44:05
      ID: 1
      Error occured in: Global
      Count: 1
      Message: ..AddOnsWoW-ProParser.lua line 20:
      attempt to index global ‘WoWPro’ (a nil value)
      [C]: ?
      WoW-ProParser.lua:20: in main chunk[/code]

      It’s like the addon didn’t even load (it is checked on the addon page).

      By the way, the DK guides could go in the Neutral folder if you want to put them there (just an idea).

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        Jan 6, 2010 @ 20:14

        what guide were you using.what guide were you using.

        also, be sure you delete the old version before updating.

        the DK guides need to be in there own faction because, while the starting area is neutral, it leads into the main guide. there is also currently no way to have more than one possible guide after the current one.

        By the way how do you do that code area, it looks much better that the regular [ code] tags I’ve been using

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          Jan 7, 2010 @ 3:14

          I had just downloaded theI had just downloaded the new version (Addon Update!!!) and I was in Horde 1k Needles (28-30), but the guides didn’t even load. They weren’t in the Interface menu at all, but the newest version (Addon Update!!!Again!!) works so far. I’ll report any new issues I find.

          Didn’t think about that for the DK guides, but it makes sense.

          The code area is just the regular [code] tag. I do put a blank line in before and after the tag, if that makes a difference. I’m also using Firefox and it’s text editor.

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    Jan 7, 2010 @ 4:19

    AddOn Update!!! Again!![url=]Download[/url]

    Fixed a small issue with neutral guides not showing up.

    Be sure to always completely remove an addon before you update them.

    There is also a know bug that typically occurs when you go from an accept step directly to a complete step of the same quest. You will see something like:

    Message: InterfaceAddOnsWoW-ProMapping.lua:59: attempt to perform arithmetic on local ‘x’ (a nil value)

    This happens because the addon gets to the next step before the game client has the POI info. im trying to find a fix but in the mean time you can just check and uncheck the step to get POIs.

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      Jan 7, 2010 @ 19:24

      Nice to see the WoW-ProNice to see the WoW-Pro Addon being updated. Im just upset that the revised versions of guides are not being incluided in the new packs… 🙁 Is that being done anytime?

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        Jan 7, 2010 @ 21:41

        Those will be included IThose will be included I just forgot to do so before I uploaded the file.

        Also, for any one who knows, why cant i edit my comments beyond my most recent? this is very annoying.

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          Jan 8, 2010 @ 8:02

          I’m not positive, but itI’m not positive, but it looks like if someone replies to a comment you can no longer edit it.

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      Jan 11, 2010 @ 17:22

      Awesome, I’ll try to makeAwesome, I’ll try to make and update tonight and add this version to the download page.

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    Jan 12, 2010 @ 16:15

    Suggestions for The Barrens (25-26)
    – Make “Mahren Skyseer” and its followup non-optional. It’s too easy to miss it, since the addon skips optional quests.

    – Also, add “Dig Rat Stew” from the tower east of X-roads as an optional, since it takes you also to Bael Modan.

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      Jan 13, 2010 @ 7:58

      Yea, a few things could beYea, a few things could be changed in the vanilla guides (I’m running through them again now), but when Cataclysm comes out all of those guides will be obsolete and need to be completely rewritten. Maybe you will be willing to write and/or test some of those guides for the site. Thanks for the input though and as you level, don’t hesitate to post anything else you think could be improved.

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    Jan 13, 2010 @ 10:30

    Problem with localized addon versionHello.

    As usual, I have done the translation of the Addon guides in french, and I am confronted to 2 problems:

    1/ settings are not saved
    2/ quest objectives are not auto-completed

    [u]1/ settings are not saved[/u]

    I have renamed the “Wow-Pro” addon to “Wow-Pro-FR”, and the “WoW-Pro.lua” and “WoW-Pro.toc” files to “WoW-Pro-FR.lua” and “WoW-Pro-FR.toc” (changing also the reference in “WoW-Pro-FR.toc” to use “WoW-Pro-FR.lua” instead of “WoW-Pro.lua”) – it’s the only things I did for non-guide files.

    Each time I restart the game, I am confronted to the “No Guide” thing and the location of the “next step” window is reset.

    Yesterday, I played a character in the Borean Toundra (translated by “Toundra Boréenne” in french), and here is the content of the Wow-Pro-FR.lua file generated in the SavedVariables folder :

    WoWProAlphaDB = {
    [“char”] = {
    [“Hurlehaine – Confrérie du Thorium”] = {
    [“currentguide”] = “[WoW-Pro|Jame] Toundra Boréenne (71-73)”,
    [“completion”] = {
    [“No Guide”] = 0,
    [“turnins”] = {
    [“No Guide”] = {
    [“[WoW-Pro|Jame] Toundra Boréenne (71-73)”] = {
    [“profileKeys”] = {
    [“Hurlehaine – Confrérie du Thorium”] = “Hurlehaine – Confrérie du Thorium”,
    [“profiles”] = {
    [“Hurlehaine – Confrérie du Thorium”] = {
    [“statusframepoint”] = “BOTTOMLEFT”,
    [“statusframex”] = 542,
    [“statusframey”] = 109,
    No progression is saved even if I reached the middle of the guide…

    [u]2/ quest objectives are not auto-completed[/u]

    Step sample not auto-completed :

    [code]N Purifier le Chaudron est |QID|11647|QO|Chaudron est purifié : 1/1|U|34806|N|Il est juste au Sud de la sortie de la Flèche de la Douleur (88,30). Allez à côté et utilisez le Totem de la sage Aeire.| [/code]

    I had the “Chaudron est purifié : 1/1” message displayed exactly as-is (I double-checked), but step is not auto-completed…

    I don’t know how to solve these things. Any clues? Any ideas?

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      Jan 13, 2010 @ 10:50

      See if this worksI don’t have a clue about problem #1, but I have run into problem #2 a few times.

      Sometimes I have found when all of the code is crammed together it doesn’t work (sometimes it does, I can’t figure it out), so:

      [code]N Purifier le Chaudron est |QID|11647|QO|Chaudron est purifié : 1/1|U|34806|N|Il est juste au Sud de la sortie de la Flèche de la Douleur (88,30). Allez à côté et utilisez le Totem de la sage Aeire.| [/code]

      may need to read:

      [code]N Purifier le Chaudron est |QID|11647| |QO|Chaudron est purifié: 1/1| |U|34806| |N|Il est juste au Sud de la sortie de la Flèche de la Douleur (88,30). Allez à côté et utilisez le Totem de la sage Aeire.| [/code]

      I know it doesn’t make sense, but I have found this to work when the first example doesn’t.

      Hope this helps.

      Maybe Gethe has an idea on the other thing.

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        Jan 14, 2010 @ 12:57

        It doesn’t work…hi Scoot thanks for the answer.

        I tried it, but it still does not auto-complete.
        I’ll try to understand how it works in the addon…


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          Jan 14, 2010 @ 15:15

          For QO to work, you need toFor QO to work, you need to type the objective exactly how it appears in-game when you complete it. I found this french quest: when you see the objectives it says “Chaudron est purifié” and not “Chaudron est purifié: 1/1”

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            Jan 15, 2010 @ 9:07

            Still not working…Hello and thanks again for your time.

            In fact the sample I gave was not the one I am testing, here is it:

            [code]N Relevé sud de Frimarra |QID|11900| |QO|Relevé sud de Frimarra : 1/1| |N|(…|)[/code]

            Here is the relative quest window:


            Here is the completion message I have:


            I tried with and without the “1/1”, with and without a space before the “: 1/1” (since english version does not have it) – with no luck in any case.

            I tried to enter in the Addon code, but I failed to understand how it is working…

            Thanks again!


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      Jan 15, 2010 @ 22:12

      I’m not entirely sure whyI’m not entirely sure why your having those issues could you send me a copy of your localized version?

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        Jan 16, 2010 @ 19:47

        Here is it.Hello.

        You can download it here:

        Thanks for your efforts!

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    Jan 22, 2010 @ 22:33

    Problem with TomTom & TourGuide/WoWPro AddonLately I am experiencing that the TomTom arrow is only pointing to objectives like quest accept and quest turn-ins, but not always. Those locations/coordinates mentioned in notes e.g. in a combat step like this one:

    C The Warsong Farms |QID|11686| |N|Go NE to Torp’s Farm at (36,53). Then go SW to the
    Granary at (35,55), then NW to the Slaughterhouse at (39.51,47.37).|

    …are not being shown on the map, nor pointed at by TomTom.

    I am using the latest version of TomTom, the latest version of the WoWPro guide and latest of LightHeaded.

    Does anyone know why this would be the case?

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      Jan 24, 2010 @ 0:55

      This is because completeThis is because complete steps like that are mapped to the built-in quest POIs added in 3.3. Not all guides have been updated with this in mind. A am going through Northrend on my alt at the moment so the guides will be updated as I go. I’m in Borean Tundra right now.

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        Jan 24, 2010 @ 10:24

        Thanks for the reply. IThanks for the reply. I thought coordinates that are being mentioned in the text like (12,34) are automatically being parsed to be displayed on the map. Oh well, I’ll just go with it until it fixes itself then I guess.

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    Jan 23, 2010 @ 11:43

    I am actually playing a lowI am actually playing a low level warlock and i’ve noticed some mistakes in the guides.

    There are many lines that have a quest ID that shouldn’t have one, like :

    F Refuge Pointe |QID|659| |N|Fly to Refuge Pointe. (49.30, 52.30)|


    H Southshore |QID|661| |N|Hearth to Southshore. |

    This makes the guide skip the line if you already turned the quest and it can be very confusing.

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      Jan 23, 2010 @ 14:36

      Quoted GetheI had already pointed this out a few weeks ago, and Gethe had repied with the following:

      Submitted by Gethe on Thu, 2009-12-24 14:31.

      In patch 3.3 Blizz added the ability to query the server for a list of your completed quests. We use this data along with QID tags to automatically check off any steps that have a QID associated with a completed quest. It was my intention that if you had completed all of the quests in a guide, but for what ever reason it did not show this in-game, you should be able to go into the guide and not have to check off anything to get to the next guide.

      I did not observe any issues associated with this feature during my testing on the ptr and apologize for any inconvenience it may have caused. I have tried looking through the code, but due to unfamiliarity with the code and general lack of coding knowledge I have been unable to find a cause much less a fix. In the mean time, I have already started going through the guides to remove the offending QIDs.

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        Jan 23, 2010 @ 16:28

        My bad. Thanks for the replyMy bad. Thanks for the reply !

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        Jan 24, 2010 @ 21:53

        I’ll take the blame for theI’ll take the blame for the Alliance guides. I coded them for 3.3 and sent them to Gethe since he brought up the project. For some reason everyone working on the new guides plays Horde, so no one has been into the Alliance guides to tweak them since.

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          Jan 26, 2010 @ 19:23

          For the Horde!For the Horde! 😛 😉

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    Jan 28, 2010 @ 22:08

    Joan’s Human Guide (1-12)I was going to test Joan’s Human Guide, but it doesn’t appear on my in game guide list. Maw’s is the only Human guide that is there. Just a heads up. Will test one of the others when I hit 12. 🙂

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      Jan 28, 2010 @ 22:19

      Ah, that’s because Maw’sAh, that’s because Maw’s guide is just much better, up-to-date, and also because I wrote that part of the addon and play tested it thoroughly, so there’s no point in having another guide besides Maw’s 😉

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        Jan 29, 2010 @ 0:17

        AwesomeThanks for the quick response. I’m leveling an alt to play with my brother who is new to WoW, so I thought I’d test ones that I hadn’t used and Joan’s was marked for testing. I’ll just continue with Maw’s, as it is quite awesome. 🙂

        I have a few questions for when you “powers that be” have time. Are there other guides marked for testing that are no longer supported?

        Is it worth noting updates that are needed or is that not too important because of the changes coming with Cataclysm? I’m happy to test them, but won’t clog the boards with comments if they aren’t necessary. lol.

        There are quite a few beginning quests where the numbers are different (kills, drops, etc.), but so far what is listed is higher than needed, so it’s not really detrimental, other than time lost making extra kills.

        If it will help, I’ll post mistakes, but if we’re just in a holding pattern with the guides until after Cataclysm, I’ll just burn through without taking more notes. 😉 I’ve noticed eight small mistakes and am at level 6.

        Let me know if I should continue “testing” or just use the addon because it ROCKS and is FUN! 😀

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          Jan 29, 2010 @ 10:41

          I’ve done some work on theI’ve done some work on the guides (I updated Alliance for 3.3, but I don’t play Alliance, so I haven’t gone back in to fix some of the stuff that was found to be wrong with all the guides.), so I’ll give you my opinion.

          This is what I’m doing. I’m leveling an Orc Shaman (55 now) and I just leave Notepad++ open behind WoW with the guide I am following in it, so when I find those small errors I can edit them immediately. When I get finished with all of the Old World guides I will post an update. Doing this on your own isn’t very hard. If you would like to do it this way check out the [url=]How to Contribute guide[/url] if you need to.

          Gethe said in a recent post that he is working through the Northrend guides and I’m going through the guides I’ve written for the third time, but we both play Horde, so any Alliance help would be great.

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            Jan 29, 2010 @ 17:10

            I’ll give it a shotOk. First off, I am basically syntax illiterate, but am trusting the guides on the site to take me through in baby steps. lol. I’m running through Maw’s Human 1-12 right now and noticed a few small issues. I will attempt to correct them, no promises tho. 😉

            I have the guide open in Notepad and have no problem changing the numbers, etc., for quests. However, I have no idea what to do about the Use Hearthstone steps being skipped over. I also am not sure why there are two steps where there is no waypoint arrow or how to fix that.

            Sorry to be such a pain! I know someone else could probably have this done in two seconds, but I would like to learn and help out. If I can do some of the simple revisions, you all can work on the big stuff!

            I have thought of about a hundred other questions, but will hold off until I actually need to know the answer. (Just idle curiosity at this point.)

            Thanks to all for being patient with this newb and for being so helpful!

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              Jan 31, 2010 @ 17:15

              Not a painKeep asking questions, that’s the only way you learn. I sent you a PM to try to address these problems.

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    Fév 2, 2010 @ 21:04

    Maw’s 1-12 Human GuideOk. I’ve been testing and revising this guide (with Scoot’s assistance, Thanks!) and there are a few steps where we can’t figure out why I have no Waypoint arrow. Here are the line numbers that I’m having trouble with so far:

    Line 51: A Rest and Relaxation |QID|2158|
    Line 54: A Kobold Candles |QID|60|
    Line 178: A Kobold Candles |QID|60|

    Any suggestions anyone? I’m still testing and revising, but I think that with the advice I’ve gotten, I’m getting the hang of this. 😀

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    Fév 4, 2010 @ 21:17

    Some of the “Quality” Guides……Might need adjustment. A few of the last patches have changed the starter areas reducing quantities of monsters killed or items gathered for quest completion. I’ve noticed this in the Forsaken starter guide where the number of spiders killed in the Deathknell starter area were reduced.

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    Fév 6, 2010 @ 11:05

    Snowflake’s Blood Elf Starter (1-12)I have noticed that the Snowflake’s Blood Elf Starter (1-12) must have changed since I last tested and revised it a few months ago. The complete starting area (approx. lvl 1-6) quests are missing… 🙁

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      Fév 6, 2010 @ 22:45

      i did that. Those earlyi did that. Those early quests are only available to Blood Elves so i put Race tags on them.

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        Fév 8, 2010 @ 22:33

        Ah I see… it must not haveAh I see… it must not have worked because I am not using the English client version. And those race tags are language sensitive 🙁

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      Fév 20, 2010 @ 8:19

      They’re not missing…Those quests are race specific to Blood elves, therefore the guide was edited to not show those quests to the other Horde races, because they can’t access them. Blood elves are stingy with the rep.

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    Fév 16, 2010 @ 12:54

    Updated Daily guides for addonYou can download the new and improved Northrend Daily guide package [url=]here.[/url]

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    Mai 1, 2010 @ 14:06

    Storm Peaks Guide for AddonStorm Peaks guide for Alliance:

    3 issues that I have found after testing:

    1) Although the correct item # is in the code to display the Icemaw Bear Flank to be used on Jormuttar, it still displays the Everfrost Razor

    2) When beginning the quest to kill the Iron Colossus, the flight arrow takes you to where the Iron Colossus is instead of to the Jormungers that you need to control to begin the quest. Coordinates do not over-ride.

    3) When you turn in the final quest for the guide, the game freezes. I have compared the code to other guides and cannot figure out what would cause this.


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      Mai 1, 2010 @ 21:20

      I can shine some light onI can shine some light on why #3 might happen, though I’m not sure. At the end of a guide, Tour Guide automatically tries to load the next guide. But if there’s not another guide or the listed guide can’t be found, it may freeze.

      The other two issues, I have no idea >_<

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        Mai 2, 2010 @ 14:50

        Figured it out for #3…At the top of the LUA file, instead of listing the next file in the series, I had listed its own file name. So basically, it was trying to load itself in a loop, causing it to freeze.

        This has been fixed and updated/re-posted:

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          Mai 3, 2010 @ 8:51

          Glad you got it figured outGlad you got it figured out 🙂

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            Mai 3, 2010 @ 18:55

            The Storm Peaks guide is doneCan the guide be posted to the site for others to use/test?

            It shows that there currently is no Storm Peaks guide…



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              Mai 3, 2010 @ 21:10

              Heh sorry about that. I’llHeh sorry about that. I’ll add it up there. We haven’t been updating the old guide pages much since work on a new addon is in progress.

              EDIT: is this guide for Horde or Alliance?

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        Mai 4, 2010 @ 16:00

        The Storm Peaks guide for Alliance is doneThis is for the AddOn

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    Mai 2, 2010 @ 13:48

    Tourguide updateTourguide was updated on WOWI a few hours ago

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    Mai 30, 2010 @ 13:46

    Tauren Starting ZoneHere is the link to the file.

    Just 1 problem……

    I tried everything. I thought someone could look at the file and reply back with the link to the new file with the errors gone.

    FYI: I only did lv. 1-3. I was just trying to test out the program. Oh and I’m using a mac.

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      Mai 30, 2010 @ 14:18

      Did you add an entry for itDid you add an entry for it in the Guides.xml file? If you did not, it will not load. If you did, let me know and I’ll help you troubleshoot more.

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        Mai 30, 2010 @ 15:38

        RE: DiD you add an entry for itI put in the Guides.xml file this:

        Did I do that correct?
        Also did you see the file I made and did you see any errors in that?

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        Mai 30, 2010 @ 18:22

        RE: DiD you add an entry for itI’m not sure if you got my other comment reply to you so here it is again:
        I put this in the guide.xml file.

        Is that correct? I have the addon swatter. Swatter tells me all bugs in the game and it said for my file something on line 17 was incomplete.
        Maybe you should look at that.

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      Mai 30, 2010 @ 19:01

      A couple thingsFirst off, the version of the guide that uses the header format you have has been discontinued. For details on the new one coming out see Revized WoW-Pro Addon. The new one works more or less like the old one with a few addition (which I won’t cover here).

      First thing to check, as noted by Jiyambi, is make sure it is listed in the guide.xml.
      Your line would look like:

      This should add it to the list.
      That said, I noticed a couple issues with the file itself that would need fixed so it would function.
      The end of the file needs to have:


      This closes the guide and function out. Then just add the additional steps between your last one and that closing.
      Also your second step:

      K Plainstrider|747|L|4740 7|N|Kill Plainstriders untill you have 7 feathers and 7 meat. (46.15, 80.04)|

      It is missing the |QID| before the 747.
      After that it should work fine. I didn’t test it with those changes, but I didn’t see anything else off hand that would stop it from functioning.
      The Verdant Note is just for the Druids, so you need to let the guide know that so it doesn’t show it to other classes.
      Something like:


      This locks it into just Tauren Druids, so say a Tauren Hunter won’t see a quest they can’t pick up come up in the guide, who would need:

      T Etched Note |QID|3092|C|Hunter|R|Tauren|

      (The |R|Tauren| is probably optional, not too many other races would probably be coming through the area in a way to pick up the quests, but it would stop the guide from showing them the quest if they did.)

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        Mai 30, 2010 @ 22:43

        Thanks for the awesomeThanks for the awesome response, looks correct and to the point to me 🙂

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        Mai 30, 2010 @ 22:58

        RE: A Couple ThingsThank you for telling me all the erros I had. I will try and keep making guides and uploading it to everyone on WoW-Pro.
        1 more thing. What are the quests for other classes because at the end of your reply it said you have to write C|druid|R|tauren. So what are the other quests for other classes?

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    Mai 30, 2010 @ 23:28

    Question! I’m making a Tauren Starting Guide but there is already one, am I still allowed to make one that YOU WILL ACCEPT?

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      Mai 31, 2010 @ 9:07

      We already have two taurenWe already have two tauren starter guides here on WoW-Pro. I would definitely suggest working on a different project, or perhaps working with one of the authors of the current guides to improve them, rather than creating a third one. However if you really feel the guide you are creating will be significantly better than the two we already have, then please post it 🙂

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        Mai 31, 2010 @ 14:14

        OH PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!Please oh please use this Iv’e been working really hard on this guide when I’m done I really want this to be accepted.

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          Mai 31, 2010 @ 21:55

          Val – you are welcome to letVal – you are welcome to let your friends use your guide, and we may use it as well, but I’ll be quite frank with you: in the new version of the guide we are only going to have ONE guide for each starter zone. It’s just too confusing for new users to our guide to have multiple guides for each zone. So we’ll either pick whichever guide the addon team seems to think is best, or we’ll make some sort of combination of them. So no, there is no guarantee we will be using your guide, though if you are talking about specifically an addon guide (not a “paper” guide here on the site) we may at least use the one you write as a framework and edit it.

          Essentially – we can’t promise anything so please do not be upset if your guide is not used!

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        Mai 31, 2010 @ 14:20

        I’ll help on other projectsI’ll help on other projects I just wanted to have one of my OWN guides on the addon to show my friends on WoW.

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    Mai 31, 2010 @ 19:50

    Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (31-41)I can work on Jame’s Horde Leveling Guide (31-41) I will post every week my progress and I promise you I wont abandon it. I’ll look for errors while testing it. But when I’m done and everyone looks good to me what do I do?
    Do i upload it to a site and give you guys the link? What do I do after I think everything is working!!!!
    And after you get the link what do you do with it?

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      Mai 31, 2010 @ 21:59

      Yep, basically you can postYep, basically you can post a link for it and we’ll add your updates into the addon. But you should be aware of a few things first:

      [list=1][*]We’re moving to a new addon format and updates made with the old format in mind won’t do much good. PM me if you want more information about the development of the new addon.
      [*]The Old World (Azeroth) stuff will be pretty much useless when the expansion comes out, so I wouldn’t devote too much time and energy to it. Outland and Northrend probably won’t change much. However if you are simply leveling an alt through the 30s and want to make updates as you go, well that’s a different story and you can feel free to do so :)[/list]

      Thanks again for your interest in helping out!

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        Mai 31, 2010 @ 23:11

        So am I allowed to makeSo am I allowed to make addon guides like the one I just signed up for?
        I really don’t care if my guides are gone when the expansion comes out I just want my guides to be till it comes out.

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          Juin 1, 2010 @ 5:52

          Your welcome to work on thatYour welcome to work on that guide, sure 🙂 I’m sending you a PM with the alpha info. I’m just making sure you understand that Cataclysm is going to completely change old azeroth and none of the old 1-60 guides will be relevant at all anymore.

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      Juin 10, 2010 @ 17:31

      hellohey i don’t exactly know how to contact the people that run this site, but i’d like to see if anyone knows of an addon like tourguide but for professions, like skinning mining etc.. and tell you where to go via the tomtom arrow for instance.. you can email me or private message me.

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        Juin 11, 2010 @ 1:09

        Actually, the new addon weActually, the new addon we are working on for the site will be able to do this eventually. We are working on the leveling/questing part of it first, but after that we’re going to make several other modules. One of them is going to be for professions 🙂

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